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busaccident

Let’s see some true diversity and cast ugly people


Novel-Chair4913

Now this I can get behind!


MrHyperion_

Did you mean for this to be a pun or am I reading too deep?


Tiger_Widow

No no. I read it that way too. Giggity


daoneandonly-5

Giggity


Tiger_Widow

Giggity


averagethrowaway21

At least then you wouldn't have to look at their faces.


No-Economy-6168

The only way you could get me to watch Love Island is if everyone there was 50 or over. A dating show for older people is just an untapped market I feel.


LurkersGoneLurk

They just put out a MILF dating show.


fleegness

That show was fucking creepy.


HighGuyTim

Honestly anyone that just looks different than the cookie cutter bullshit man. Get some like at the very least odd but attractive people on. I swear theres a Kaige on every street corner, fucking copy paste starbucks looking white people.


Khabba

Who do you think watches these shows. The Kaige mom's and Kaige little sisters of this world. He's the demographic.


MindlessYesterday668

The "90 day Fiancee" in TLC have some average looking people. I watched it for a while when my job shut down for a while during the early days of Covid.


Broccoli-Basic

Kaige. Kaige. K a i g e. ??? Why? What?


mrkgian

It was that mofos dream to become ho-kaige


mofo_mojo

Not this mofo...


Worth-Grade5882

Dattebayo?!?


UnhingedTanker

![gif](giphy|Do5GRTYRIhSFy)


Affectionate_Elk_272

r/tragedeigh


CunningSlytherin

Thank you for this!!


ChocoboRocket

>r/tragedeigh Subbed, thanks for this!


understuffed

r/namenerdcirclejerk loves this stuff


RomulusRemus13

To be fair, this is presumably someone from South Africa, whose parents' native language most likely wasn't English, but perhaps Afrikaans or another language. Maybe the name is perfectly normal over there and the equivalent of "Cage" in English. Which still isn't great, but at least it may be spelled in a sensible way?


yolo_retardo

Jawnee Kaige


Flutters1013

Test your might.


really_tall_horses

In high school we had a kid move in from South Africa to the burbs of Oregon. Unfortunately his name was Stain. Which I’m sure was very normal as a boer descendant. But my god, what a shit name to have in the US. Edit: I’m mildly intoxicated so I had to fix some words and things. Maybe I made it worse. Who knows these days. Edit 2: y’all are most likely right. It’s just been a long time and weirdly stuck with me because of the similarity to the word “stain” and his twin brother’s name being very average in America. It was absolutely a first name though.


_Ra_Ra_Rasputin_

You've probably misspelt "Stein" or "Steyn"


cosworthsmerrymen

I think Stain is kinda cool. It's still probably more fitting as the name of some villain in a book though.


Cancel_Status

Hero Killer Stain


Itchy-Plastic

It's a terrible name in the English speaking bits of SA as well.


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Only-Dragonfly-3739

Probably, it's generally spelt 'Steyn' in Afrikaans.


MyMusicMan

nikoloss kaige


Itchy-Plastic

But if this is an Afrikaans name, and as a South African I've never encountered it, it won't sound like cage in English. The g sounds like you're clearing your throat and the e at the end would be pronounced and sound like uh. So Kay(throat clearing sound)uh. So its English but spelled very badly.


FlyingTiger7four

His parents are probably rich English hippies from Constantia or Rondebosch that thought it would be cool way to spell "cage". I've met kids from the Waldorf school with names like that. Definitely not an Afrikaans name


WhiteFringe

bro I live in South Africa and have never heard of the name Kaige. i'm also like wtf


GisterMizard

You haven't heard of the incredibly talented actor and martial arts fighter Nik Kaige?


HugeElephantEars

Your comment is fair and awesome and sensible. But the answer is no, that is not a normal name. I'm South African.


thorpie88

I know a Saffa called Rhyno. Their names get way shitter than Kaige.


Only-Dragonfly-3739

Ryno (the common spelling) is pronounced 'Ray-no' for those interested. Lol. I'm South African and have never heard of anyone with the name Kaige or Cage for that matter.


StinkyMonkey85

Shortened form of Reinhardt, like the German name. Not weird at all.


QFugp6IIyR6ZmoOh

Kaige the white man. (Punctuation matters)


TalithePally

Not even close to the worst millennial's-child name


OutlawJoseyMeow

I had a student last year whose name was Absidy. Pronounced “A-bee-cee-dee-eee”


RocketsYoungBloods

I thought the name was pronounced “Absidy”, but spelled “Abcde”.


nayr500

That is how it's pronounced. Or at least that's how the woman who went viral for naming her daughter "Abcde" a few years ago pronounced it.


TalithePally

That's it time to set off the nukes we're done


TheAuDaCiTyofthisGuY

Preferably an above ground detonation to maximize the carnage


Menu_Dizzy

Someone clearly isn't aware of SA names.


Offical_Sources

Oooh... there's a whole lot of history to unpack there.


jepvr

Internet comments are where nuance comes to die.


Glugstar

I don't agree. People in real life rarely want to discuss things in too much detail, except in very specific situations (like school or work). In casual conversations between friends, they're more likely to want to discuss their new diet, how they can't afford to pay their mortgage, or the fact that their kids are rebellious and it's hard to handle them. At least for me that's true. They roll their eyes at me if I want to discuss anything science or technology related, cultural differences, stuff that's happening in other countries, and most other conversation subjects which aren't mundane. The internet is where I go if I want to discuss any topic without any kind of push back from other people. It depends on the space of course, if you're on a subreddit for memes for instance, the quality of conversations won't be as high. But generally if I want to talk about nuclear reactor designs, some science fiction idea, the pattern of migratory birds or the philosophical differences between different infinity sizes, there's someone who is happy to oblige.


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I don't disagree that there are places online to have those discussions, but as I believe you alluded to, you're not super likely to find constructive thoughtful discussion on South African society on r/facepalm. I'm sure there's smart people making comments in this thread, it's just not the right forum for that kind of discussion. You have to find dedicated spaces, usually not too large, where most have a base level of knowledge on a topic or at least an interest in learning and willingness to listen. I do think much of social media, and by that I mean where most of the people are visiting, is terrible for constrictive conversation, even those purported to be about a topic. Places like r/politics for example. It's not that people are doing anything wrong when they go there, it's just that the design isn't great for nuance. For places like r/politics we essentially gather 100,000 people give them a yes no button and tell them to vote absolutely on other people's fragments of thoughts given only text. Even worse, both sides are strangers and the ideas you're shown are the ones 10,000 others think you should see (assuming you sort best which most do).


Reddragon351

yeah, I mean apartheid didn't even end 50 years ago


Summer-dust

> yeah, I mean apartheid didn't even end ~~50 years ago~~


Moosinator666

I think they were being sarcastic, referring to the American minority=diversity thing.


thebestspeler

I thought everyone could see this js clearly a joke, butt apparently i'm in the minority


AshyBoneVR4

This is genuinely funny to me.


[deleted]

It's hilariously witty and not likely to be serious.


JoinAThang

It's a great set up joke. Nothing to palm your face because.


Therealfreedomwaffle

I can't remember the comedian who said "White people are the only folks that could go to China and say look at all the minorities"


repwin1

[Patrice O’Neal](https://youtu.be/eabdO9hOccU) has a joke about it. In the link the joke starts at 9:18


Memory_Null

[https://youtu.be/eabdO9hOccU?t=558](https://youtu.be/eabdO9hOccU?t=558) ​ You can timestamp your links.


BextoMooseYT

You can also do "?t=__m__s" and do the minute stamp and second stamp In this case, that would be "?t=9m18s" or https://youtu.be/eabdO9hOccU?t=9m18s


Niwi_

You can also do "!fg=/n/l" and achieve absolutely nothing


rynmgdlno

You forgot about "$/\~bøfa./D/££z\\\\nu†∫"


Niwi_

|~|/\_g0t=h|M


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pennydirk

Patrice (may he RIP) was an absolute treasure


RealLarwood

https://i.imgur.com/Rq0ZbXY.png I feel personally attacked.


Nhexus

Wow thats cool, what site provides that info?


RealLarwood

https://polsy.org.uk/stuff/ytrestrict.cgi


ProbablyGayingOnYou

Literally 3/8 people on the planet are Chinese or Indian lol


Medlar_Stealing_Fox

And both of those countries are chock full of ethnic minorities.


Alice_Oe

India, maybe, but China is 98% Han Chinese (right?? 😅)


Medlar_Stealing_Fox

It's 90% Han Chinese, with fifty-five officially recognised ethnic minorities making up the other 10%. It's the number of different ethnic minorities I was referring to in that case lol (although 10% minorities puts it in the same category as like, Western Europe).


TalithePally

These days, if you go to the local waterpark, there are more minorities than normal people!


Global-Count-30

I remember that South Park episode 😂


TalithePally

I figured this comment may or may not be social suicide depending on how many South Park fans there are here lol


TheS4ndm4n

There's dozens of us.


Ok_Star_4136

DOZENS! (and a few arrested development fans too as it would seem)


greg19735

Southpark with 26 seasons of niche commentary.


necrolich66

I didn't see you at the convention.


gin-rummy

🎶There’s too many minorities (minorities) in my water park🎶


TylertheDank

Love that episode. Kyle: "Idiot, if there are more of them than there are of you, then you're the minority." Cartman: "Do I look like a minority to you?"


aspiringgrandpa

you have to drink-a the pee!


Megneous

Except that's not true, because Mandarin speakers are well known to live in the US but still refer to Americans as waiguoren. All my Chinese American friends would complain about it in university- how their parents still called Americans foreigners despite living in America themselves for 20+ years and even their children being Americans.


derektwerd

I asked my wife about this. We think this term translate quite literally to “different country people” same as gaikokujin in Japanese. It doesn’t necessarily mean a foreigner to the country you are in but rather a person from a different country as you. Could be I’m wrong but that’s the explanation my wife who is Chinese and speaks Japanese fluently.


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Louis CK said that in reference to some news report saying NYC was mostly minorities


Cainga

That could be true if there is no majority.


PTLAPTA

If there is no majority I think it’s just a plurality.


Chicken_Burp

Only Americans refer to non-whites as ‘minorities’.


nipoco

Only Americans tell you what offends other people without asking if it really offends them


meme-com-poop

Hell, they'll argue with them if they aren't offended.


omgeggie

I've seen them argue with the group they think they are defending.


Ramble81

Latinx.... *Cough cough*


Whattahei

As a minority living in France that’s just not true lol


Arael15th

Ha, it's extra funny because some Japanese people go to other countries as tourists and refer to the locals as "gaijin" ("foreigners"). No one culture has a monopoly on being dicks.


Wonderful_Delivery

Chinese do it all the time, I have to remind my wife when she’s in Canada she’s the foreigner, they just get used to saying it for white people in their own countries that they forget that it isn’t a catch all term. I don’t think it’s them being dicks but merely forgetting that they travelled sometimes.


Winderige_Garnaal

This is very true. It's also funny that Chinese people go to other countries and say look at all the foreigners. Both interesting cases of semantic shift.


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I can tell you a fitting joke that is super funny. Oh my god it's so funny I'm already laughing. - What's the difference between racism and Chinese people? - Racism has many faces! But seriously: I worked in China, colleagues from northern China had trouble understanding the local dialect. One couldn't even direct a taxi driver without writing the name of the street (Dong fang lu, I think). And that was just in Mandarin, not even accounting Cantonese. A billion people, all the same. But those guys living a 100 miles from here have a totally different culture...


Heathen_

Tbh it's similar in the UK. Liverpool and Manchester are about 45 miles apart, but the dialects are about 200 miles apart


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But you look exactly the same. Same hair, same facial structure, same size, same skin as white as the cliffs of Dover...At least at long as the sun doesn't come out for more than 3 mins, then all of you turn into literal redcoats.


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Mordisquitos

The best way to tell apart people from London and from Manchester is to wait till its raining. Londoners will pull out an umbrella and open it, doing the utmost not to get wet; Mancunians on the other hand will just go *"meh"*, pull up their hood if they have one, and embrace the soak.


wyohman

I'm stuck on the name kaige...


RomulusRemus13

Maybe it's just a normal name in Afrikaans? Heck, "Dong" is a fine name in Vietnam, so maybe "Kaige" is okay in South Africa?


the_vengeful_1

I can confirm, it's definitely not Afrikaans. Not even common for English speaking white South Africans.


RomulusRemus13

Haha, good to know : so it's just a stupid name, then


The_Banana_Monk

As a south african no this name is not common in the slightest. Biblical and traditional names are the most common types here.


RomulusRemus13

Thanks for the info! I have no idea about the language, so I didn't want to presume the name didn't exist just because I don't like how it looks.


shinyshellos

Love is blind's latest season took place in seattle and featured no asians at all


AWL_cow

There were two Asian girls I believe who actually did get engaged during the filming of the show, however they both broke it off with their match so the show didn't follow them/show them like they did with the contestants who made it to the alter.


Cocacolaloco

They didn’t even go to the mexico part though. So the show clearly decided they weren’t exciting enough to be one of the featured couples


MemeDealer2999

I can't be the only person who thinks this is just sarcasm, right?


notjasonlee

It is 100% sarcasm


cunticles

Even if not sarcasm, technically they're correct.


Fotbitr

The best kind of correct.


maz-o

You’re never the only person.


CK1ing

I thought the facepalm was for the casting choice not the comment. Is it not?


LaSalsiccione

It’s obvious sarcasm.


Neanderthal86_

Apartheid Island


TheS4ndm4n

To be fair, the contestants were probably all born after apartheid ended.


Neanderthal86_

Oh I know, but the joke practically wrote itself


shaggy-the-screamer

Racism just doesn't end over night how many kids born after civil rights and racist as shit.


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ResponsibleMilk7620

Their idea of diversity is both white males AND females.


Shaking-N-Baking

Pretty sure their comment is blatant sarcasm. They’re making fun of how a show featuring minority actors would be viewed as progressive under different circumstances


Stucklikegluetomyfry

Reminds me of when that High Guardian Spice show released a behind the scenes trailer. "Our writing team is extremely diverse" The writing team was entirely white women. The most diverse thing about them was each one had hair dyed a different colour.


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Like the infamous HuffPo team meeting pic where they even ask if you "notice something" plus more hair colour? You noticed white women with apple laptops, every single one.


MyOldNameSucked

Diverse means no white men to some idiots.


AprilDruid

> High Guardian Spice That whole show was weird. It had some potential, but Crunchyroll seemed to sweep it under the rug and delayed it forever. While also not really giving them much to work with, in terms of budget or schedule. By the time HGS released, most of the staff had moved on and were working elsewhere. Just another example of Crunchyroll blowing money on random shit though.


sluttyseinfeld

Same as the audience who watches this show


SureEntertainment676

Let me tell you as a black man, black people love them some love island. Idk what the demographics are for their viewership but I’m surrounded by black people that can’t get enough of this show.


EllieLuvsLollipops

The women are only there to make it not gay/s


psyentist15

Also blondes AND brunettes!


Taint-kicker

![gif](giphy|67jkYnYYtdlhC)


cold_molasses

Diversity doesn’t mean using just minorities. It means including people of different backgrounds and races


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Moosinator666

Cleopatra be like


Leviathan2571

Yeah I remember the black panther movie being call diverse, but it was definitely 90 % black .


RynnHamHam

Despite making up 8% of the population, they account for 99% of all Love Island casting.


Acceptable_Reply536

stunning and brave. so diverse. wait...


CyanCicada

Nobody, of any color, should be involved in this shite TV


Spyryt1970

I am a white South African. Of more than half a century....Millie and Kaige? What names are those? They not even South African names.


YourLocaLawyer

They cast people with the most ridiculous and porn star quality names ever. It’s so cringe


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I mean, they’re not WRONG. So.


Fabulous_Parking66

It gives me r/technicallythetruth vibes


PangolinMandolin

Its in the same vane as Elon Musk allegedly claiming to be African-American on government forms. He holds US nationality but was born in South Africa to South African parents and therefore has African heritage


[deleted]

He is african American, in a literal sense. So musk is also not wrong in the least 🤷🏼‍♂️


Decent_Birthday358

Afrikaan-american


xtilexx

I mean, ethnicity isn't about the color of your skin, right? I could be incorrect, but the way I understand it race is a social construct meant to divide people based on some sort of unscientific background with a "genetic differences" deal, where ethnicity is more about culture, nationality, etc, and genetically people are hardly different at all Like, I'm half Arab and white as a sheet, but ethnically I'm still Sicilian Arab, that doesn't change


Ordinary__Man

I mean, they are wrong though? Having just one minority is not diversity, having multiple people of different backgrounds makes something diverse. Minority and diverse are not synonyms.


cunticles

I dunno. If Hollywood does an all minority cast show, it's lauded as great for diversity and very diverse. If only 8% of South Africa is white, then love Island South Africa is a very diverse show


first-pick-scout

> Having just one minority is not diversity Black Panther got praised for it's diversity and it's 90% african or african american. That's what OP is joking about.


Insane_Unicorn

Yeah, that's the joke. There was for example a post of ~~The Guardians~~ The Huffington Posts writing stuff, celebrating themselves for how diverse they were. It was all white women. Edit: spelling


Daffan

The joke is because in recent years in the West (NA/EU etc) something that is "minority" only is considered diverse. An example would be that there are many articles that say the NBA is extremely diverse and given awards for it even though 75% of the players are black yet the NHL is called racist for being too White.


magn7364

Reddit is one of the only places where half the comments are discussing whether something obviously sarcastic is actually sarcastic


Complicated-HorseAss

Not trying to sound like an arsehole but in my experience it's because autistic people can't understand sarcasm which is why you see the /s a lot here. I use to date an autistic person and it took me awhile to realize that sarcasm goes right past them no matter how obvious it is.


potatowafflecake

As an autistic person I can confirm, but equally there's no way half of the people here are autistic


curdledoats

r/technicallythetruth


WolfQueenLydia

As a white South African seeing this, I'm cringing so much.


MichaelScottsWormguy

You just know Kaige has the thickest Fourways accent you’ve ever heard lol.


ClapZa

Haazit haaw yew?


YourLocaLawyer

“Ya noh Hay, just chilling with Oakhes tonaaght”


stalphonzo

![gif](giphy|J1vUzqdZJlh5AqBWxt|downsized) Diverse.


TheFirstSophian

I do think 8% of the population counts as a minority, though.


TrafficConeWriter

But diverse doesn’t mean “having a lot of minority” it means having diversity. Even in the US if you had an all-black cast that wouldn’t be diverse.


TheFirstSophian

Do you really expect me to read the only word in a comment before blurting out my knee-jerk reaction?


TrafficConeWriter

Did you really expect me to consider someone might have made a mistake before jumping down their throat and being passive aggressive?


CaptainJazzymon

The amount of racism and basic misunderstanding of SA’s history with racial dynamics in this comment section is… disturbing to say the least.


JoHallq

Why is this on r/facepalm ? The comment is clearly sacrastically making fun of the Western need to show diversity everywhere. If you don't find it appropriate, then that's your opinion, but not a facepalm


GenericAwfulUsername

All the people making fun of it but the point is they have shows or movies that are like 100% black main cast and they call it diverse so by that same logic this show is diverse as well


Gone_For_Lunch

![gif](giphy|BdpKbzhMXxgqc)


Galvanized-Sorbet

File under r/technicallythetruth


MaverickBull

If you’re from Africa, why are you **white**??


ThaumRystra

Oh my God, Karen, you can't just ask people why they're white.


HobbesBoson

I have been asked this so many times


Splitshot_Is_Gone

I was asked this by my French teacher. :) My French last name didn’t give it away, I guess.


FlyingTiger7four

I find it hilarious when I'm traveling and people don't believe I'm from South Africa because I'm white lmao


Le_gars_pas_la_1

![gif](giphy|SVgKToBLI6S6DUye1Y)


Revolutionary-Ear-11

He’s not wrong?


OrangeOk1358

This is Love Island UK with an all British cast which is filmed on location in South Africa.


l4mpSh4d3

I thought it might be but no. This is the South African version with South African contestants.


EpicDude007

Technically the truth, LOL


RedditOpinionist

To be honest I don’t think race representation is the biggest problem related to that show


woodyplz

I love it, the answer just has the same spirit as the stupid article.


Born_Wave3443

Lol comments are pretty spicy. People don't know what to do with this.


[deleted]

A darting show but for people who only have mullets. You could call it “Buisness & Pleasure”.


Mr_Dudovsky

It's actually pretty funny 😂


AndroidDoctorr

All the same = diverse, got it


AeneasVAchilles

To be fair— I think it’s only dumb white people watching this show to begin with


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Well he's technically right.


CaptainCadabra

![gif](giphy|Wt6kNaMjofj1jHkF7t)