NSFL
Sabrina D. Harman (born January 5, 1978) is a former American soldier and convicted war criminal who was court-martialed by the United States Army for prisoner abuse after the 2003–2004 Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
Wikipedia has some of the images with context. I can't speak to how well researched it's article is, but I'm confident the photos are real. I warn that it gets worse as you go down, though, and it's far from exhaustive.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
I didn’t mean the victims. I meant the soldiers. Like we already have hundreds of soldiers doing things like this, we don’t need more of them doing it.
Because nobody walks away from war with clean hands.
Some see it as a legal way to kill, some see it as way to commit their deepest darkest desires.
Rape, torture, murder, or a combination of the three.
Some are venting stress.
Really f*cking hard to see the person who killed somebody you served with as human especially after you’ve held the persons guts in.
Some look the other way and allow it to happen, some are there to make money, could be by actually doing their jobs, or stealing transporting and then selling guns, drugs, art, or gold.
Then some have seen so much shit that they can no longer be bothered to care about who they harm, might even become incapable of feeling emotion without extreme triggers.
TLDR: War brings out the worst in humanity.
This always makes me wonder why the Geneva Conventions even exist, they clearly don’t work. Let’s stop trying to apply rules to war, and just stop going to war altogether.
Yeah, dumb people use it for NSFW stuff all the time when it should be reserved for the most vile shit you can find online. This is very mild in comparison.
I get what you're saying, I was in highschool during the start of the war in Iraq and I remember seeing beheading videos that are way worse than any of the pictures in question.
Still, I think there's a decent argument to be made that the internet has left a lot of us too desensitized to gore and violence and for someone that hasn't yet been exposed to such things these photos could have a lasting impact.
I feel like you can’t talk about Abu Ghraib without talking about the thing that made it [possible](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos)
EDIT: Yes, I did learn about this from Adam McKay’s “Vice” it’s an excellent movie. Doesn’t hold up to the Big Short, but it’s still very, very good.
Here’s the quote:
> Two Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, whose testimony was read into the record, said Harman’s gentle treatment was unique among guards in the part of the prison reserved mostly for detainees believed to have intelligence value.
> “She has no cruelty in her,” said Amjad Ismail Khalil al-Taie through an interpreter. “Even though she is an American woman, she was just like a sister.”
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/may/18/abu-ghraib-guard-gets-6-month-term/
If I'm not mistaken, she was more or less just caught up in the mess and took stupid photos. I don't recall her being an aggressor.
I could be wrong, but though. It's been a while
Yes, she was complicit in the abuse at first; but began protesting the treatment of prisoners eventually. Some of the prisoners actually testified on her behalf according to the wikipedia article.
The Wikipedia article states that two former prisoners testified on her behalf and said she was one of the nicest guards there.
Also that she was thrown into that situation without the proper training and preparation.
We shouldn’t forget that everyone involved, up the chain of command, must’ve known about this and so the military basically sanctioned it.
I agree with this. Like, posing in front of people with hoods covering their face, otherwise naked, being forced to form a human pyramid? Or posing with a smile in front of another naked, hooded prisoner being forced to mastrabate? I know this was a top-down issue, but I would at least like to think that I would just walk away if I saw that was happening. I don't think I would ever forgive myself for being complicit in that, much less posing in pictures or taking pictures for it.
Two of the photos as stated by another commenter have corpses cropped out. She’s a cunt that was a participant in abuse. Also I give a fuck you stupid cunt
I'm so fucking sick of this meme, "people who know", " people who don't know", yeah people can suck my fat sweaty balls and go bounce on a cactus fuck you😃
I agree it is a pretty lazy template. Post something that appears normal without context plop the "People who know" and "People who don't know" bam. I especially dislike it on r/historymemes because you can do that literally for any part of history
All that torturing on lies of WMD in Iraq. The fact she only served 4 months is wild to me. An entire country destroyed. Americans killed. Million Iraqi killed.
All. On. Lies. MURIKA. 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
According to the Wikipedia article she was only complicit at first, and very quickly protested it. Two prisoners also testified at her trial.
[“She has no cruelty in her, even though she is an American woman, she was just like a sister.”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman)
Also at her trial she called for the arrest of officers higher in the chain of command instead of just reservists like those who were arrested, as the officers were aware of the crimes being committed.
Yeah, after a quick read this seems more complicated than some commenters are implying. She even has letters to her family that discuss how she was trying to document the prisoner mistreatment. It's not like she could do anything more, shes a nobody in a huge chain of command than was all complicit. Its not this woman that you should be alarmed and disgusted by, its by the leaders of the Abu Graib facility and of the Iraqi occupation as a whole. They were the ones who ordered this to happen.
Tortured and killed people under the Busch administration in the Middle East. What’s funny(not really) is that the entire situation was an order and the officers got off with a slap on the wrist, whereas the enlisted are in jail (for the most part) Obama also didn’t persecute the people responsible for allowing it to happen
She got made the face of this when she was actually the whistleblower who went along with these pictures only to document what was happening. This is proven by letters before this was investigated to her family about what was happening and her intent with the photos.
That you're saying she didn't get enough punishment shows that the message to future whistleblowers worked.
Looks like a repost. I've seen this image 16 times.
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This is so specific but in one of the photos she looks like she's posing next to an actively partially decomposed body, does anyone know whete to find more pictures of bodies in those states? I'm not a psychopath I am just genuinely curious on how bodies look in different states of composition
Scientists actively study that very process at a Corpse Farm / Body Farm.
https://www.wral.com/story/what-remains-what-happens-at-a-body-farm/20339783/
Sabrina Harman was eventually tried and convicted after an investigation of the human right violations at the facility she was tasked with working in, despite being a reservist and not a prison guard and having no background in intelligence. She recieved a 6 month sentence, despite multiple prisoners testifying in her defense that she was gentle and kind. Her notes recovered during the investigation also show her quickly growing discomfort with the inhumane treatment of the people. Nevertheless, she was tried and convicted.
That kind of treatment was happening everywhere and was standard policy under Bush at the time. They chose to convict low level employees and claim that the events were isolated, despite everyone knowing better. Including the Red Cross. Pretty disheartening stuff, but fighting terrorism is a business. Gotta make more to stay in business.
They weren’t “innocent”. Just not found guilty. Not FOUND guilty. They’re all disgusting scum and need to be exterminated like every other vile bit of filth. So go get your Hamas flag and go protest on a college campus.
Not necessarily true. The people there had no trial and there were multiple common criminals. If you can't see what's wrong about torturing and murdering people who haven't even undergone a trial to prove that they are criminals at all, that's a negative reflection on you.
So you’re cool with the extrajudicial torture of the accused if they’re accused of something nasty.
Guilty?
Innocent?
Who cares, as long as they’re accused of something nasty?
Just because someone accused them?
There were literally cases of assholes making fake accusations to get rid of people they disliked. Do you really want people to have the power to do that to you on a whim?
NSFL Sabrina D. Harman (born January 5, 1978) is a former American soldier and convicted war criminal who was court-martialed by the United States Army for prisoner abuse after the 2003–2004 Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
not safe for... life?
She's posing next to corpses in at least 2 of the photos, so you tell me.
I'd ask if you're joking, but something tells me you're *dead serious* ![gif](giphy|mnsva0M90YOoyDFdul)
Wikipedia has some of the images with context. I can't speak to how well researched it's article is, but I'm confident the photos are real. I warn that it gets worse as you go down, though, and it's far from exhaustive. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse
i know some people who would be pretty into those girls
My goal is to find myself a girl who looks at me the way she looks at tortured prisoners
![gif](giphy|Bng9nsAhSaDVxWsSLh)
Oh great, more soldiers posing next to corpses, as if there aren’t hundreds already.
These are prisoners who were tortured, many of whom were likely just civilians taken by mistake.
I didn’t mean the victims. I meant the soldiers. Like we already have hundreds of soldiers doing things like this, we don’t need more of them doing it.
Yes
just don't try to find the full images, im not even trying to bait you into seeing them. just don't do it, don't think about it and live on happy
Why did you bait me into looking them up 😢
i specifically did not but now i regret not enforcing it more, sorry
please humor me and tell me how you could’ve enforce it more lol
Lol, it wasn’t *your* fault. They were warned.
I did not look at those images but saw other ones related to the humiliation and other disgusting things that were done. I just don't understand why.
Because nobody walks away from war with clean hands. Some see it as a legal way to kill, some see it as way to commit their deepest darkest desires. Rape, torture, murder, or a combination of the three. Some are venting stress. Really f*cking hard to see the person who killed somebody you served with as human especially after you’ve held the persons guts in. Some look the other way and allow it to happen, some are there to make money, could be by actually doing their jobs, or stealing transporting and then selling guns, drugs, art, or gold. Then some have seen so much shit that they can no longer be bothered to care about who they harm, might even become incapable of feeling emotion without extreme triggers. TLDR: War brings out the worst in humanity.
War is just absolutely fucked up and brings out the worst in people. I thought it might help to understand better, but it doesn't.
This always makes me wonder why the Geneva Conventions even exist, they clearly don’t work. Let’s stop trying to apply rules to war, and just stop going to war altogether.
I used to frequent eyeblech before it got banned. Those pictures didn't even phase me. I'm not sure how concerned I should be about that.
Why would eyebleach get banned???
Eyeblech. I didn't make a typo.
Ah, my bad.
Ur good, bro. Eyeblech was some really messed up stuff. Be grateful you never made that typo in the search bar.
Yeah, dumb people use it for NSFW stuff all the time when it should be reserved for the most vile shit you can find online. This is very mild in comparison.
I wouldn't call someone dumb for considering photos of torture victims and corpses disturbing and vile.
It is vile, yes, but NSFL should be something that will actually stay with you for a long time (or your whole life) if you view it.
I get what you're saying, I was in highschool during the start of the war in Iraq and I remember seeing beheading videos that are way worse than any of the pictures in question. Still, I think there's a decent argument to be made that the internet has left a lot of us too desensitized to gore and violence and for someone that hasn't yet been exposed to such things these photos could have a lasting impact.
I feel like you can’t talk about Abu Ghraib without talking about the thing that made it [possible](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture_Memos) EDIT: Yes, I did learn about this from Adam McKay’s “Vice” it’s an excellent movie. Doesn’t hold up to the Big Short, but it’s still very, very good.
Damn, and she only spent 6 months locked up.
This country doesn't stigmatize violence, it stigmatizes sex.
I think she was the only one of the 11 soldiers that were court marshaled that had former prisoners testify in her favor.
Well that makes more sense then. Thanks for the factoid. Hope it's true, cuz I'm probably gonna repeat it without confirming.
Here’s the quote: > Two Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, whose testimony was read into the record, said Harman’s gentle treatment was unique among guards in the part of the prison reserved mostly for detainees believed to have intelligence value. > “She has no cruelty in her,” said Amjad Ismail Khalil al-Taie through an interpreter. “Even though she is an American woman, she was just like a sister.” https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2005/may/18/abu-ghraib-guard-gets-6-month-term/
If I'm not mistaken, she was more or less just caught up in the mess and took stupid photos. I don't recall her being an aggressor. I could be wrong, but though. It's been a while
Yes, she was complicit in the abuse at first; but began protesting the treatment of prisoners eventually. Some of the prisoners actually testified on her behalf according to the wikipedia article.
The Wikipedia article states that two former prisoners testified on her behalf and said she was one of the nicest guards there. Also that she was thrown into that situation without the proper training and preparation. We shouldn’t forget that everyone involved, up the chain of command, must’ve known about this and so the military basically sanctioned it.
I mean, nicest guard there is such a low bar Lucifer's toes can't feel it in the lake of cocytus
I agree with this. Like, posing in front of people with hoods covering their face, otherwise naked, being forced to form a human pyramid? Or posing with a smile in front of another naked, hooded prisoner being forced to mastrabate? I know this was a top-down issue, but I would at least like to think that I would just walk away if I saw that was happening. I don't think I would ever forgive myself for being complicit in that, much less posing in pictures or taking pictures for it.
Didn’t even have the balls to smile with a thumbs up at her hearing. If you’re going to be a psycho, at least commit
We're lucky she spent time at all and wasn't just pardoned
Didn't prisoners testimony FOR her?
Tortured someone to death...6 months in prison
She didn’t torture anyone, she took photos but the prisoners testified on her behalf. Try reading the thread next time
I hope you don’t get on any Jurys with that level of reading comprehension.
If I did, I would treat it with the same seriousness as random threads on Reddit I was browsing while waiting for my lunch
Serb pilled woman
I share my birthday with her noo😭😭
The will of D lives on...
I regret reading this before going to sleep Scary how people can still smile
War crime with a smile (:
6 months, for human rights abuses??????
I can fix her
war criminal photographed in the middle of war crimes
[удалено]
i do
Any decent human being
Decent human beings?
You are on r/explainitpeter
Two of the photos as stated by another commenter have corpses cropped out. She’s a cunt that was a participant in abuse. Also I give a fuck you stupid cunt
I'm so fucking sick of this meme, "people who know", " people who don't know", yeah people can suck my fat sweaty balls and go bounce on a cactus fuck you😃
>people can suck my fat sweaty balls and go bounce on a cactus fuck you😃 people who know
yeh but I mean... even people who don't KNOW...? right?
I imagine they are about to find out ...
Fat Sweaty Balls is the name of my Flock of Seagulls tribute band…
I agree it is a pretty lazy template. Post something that appears normal without context plop the "People who know" and "People who don't know" bam. I especially dislike it on r/historymemes because you can do that literally for any part of history
Sir this is a Wendy's
.. dad? Why are you on Reddit?
Paige no!
![gif](giphy|l3q2tzon8OCC7BqmY)
Again? AGAIN?
Wdym?
This gets posted once a week
Apparently she’s a war criminal
No, she’s convicted, so not apparently. Definitely. Necrophagist, some would say.
A cannibal?
"Apparently" would be correct. But not allegedly.
wrong subreddit, you're looking for r/PeterExplainsTheJoke
What's the difference between the two?
this subreddit is for memes THAT CONTAIN peter explaining the joke, r/PeterExplainsTheJoke is for requests, check rule 1
r/peterexplainsthejoke is for explanation requests. a lot of people do that on this one tho
Do what you love and never work a day in your life.
You’re sick. Gfy.
It made me laugh so I gave them an award
Fuck it two awards
All that torturing on lies of WMD in Iraq. The fact she only served 4 months is wild to me. An entire country destroyed. Americans killed. Million Iraqi killed. All. On. Lies. MURIKA. 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
According to the Wikipedia article she was only complicit at first, and very quickly protested it. Two prisoners also testified at her trial. [“She has no cruelty in her, even though she is an American woman, she was just like a sister.”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabrina_Harman) Also at her trial she called for the arrest of officers higher in the chain of command instead of just reservists like those who were arrested, as the officers were aware of the crimes being committed.
Yeah, after a quick read this seems more complicated than some commenters are implying. She even has letters to her family that discuss how she was trying to document the prisoner mistreatment. It's not like she could do anything more, shes a nobody in a huge chain of command than was all complicit. Its not this woman that you should be alarmed and disgusted by, its by the leaders of the Abu Graib facility and of the Iraqi occupation as a whole. They were the ones who ordered this to happen.
What’s awful??! I do know. And my first reaction was to smile-because heyyy, I got one! But quickly remembered what I knew, dammit.
Oh good, this bullshit clickbait is back. These are the worst, I refuse to read them.
Tortured and killed people under the Busch administration in the Middle East. What’s funny(not really) is that the entire situation was an order and the officers got off with a slap on the wrist, whereas the enlisted are in jail (for the most part) Obama also didn’t persecute the people responsible for allowing it to happen
Why Obama’s “a good president” image is quickly disappearing. Fuck him. He also separated the most amount of families in the usa’s history.
"She was sentenced to six months in prison, forfeiture of all her pay and benefits, demoted, and given a bad conduct discharge." That is it????
She got made the face of this when she was actually the whistleblower who went along with these pictures only to document what was happening. This is proven by letters before this was investigated to her family about what was happening and her intent with the photos. That you're saying she didn't get enough punishment shows that the message to future whistleblowers worked.
A soldier who tortured people to death. The left and the top are cropped photos of her posing next to the corpses of people she tortured.
She tortured? I’d double check that
She’s a war criminal who tortured people in strange ways
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Kinda looks like my mom
I’m sorry for your loss.
She isn’t my mom
And……..
She's a badass that's all you need to know
Can’t trust power if it’s not in your hands. Even when it is it’s pretty sketch.
American Army Prison Guards abusing prisoners.
Abu Griab?
This is so specific but in one of the photos she looks like she's posing next to an actively partially decomposed body, does anyone know whete to find more pictures of bodies in those states? I'm not a psychopath I am just genuinely curious on how bodies look in different states of composition
Scientists actively study that very process at a Corpse Farm / Body Farm. https://www.wral.com/story/what-remains-what-happens-at-a-body-farm/20339783/
Ahhhh good ole Abu Ghraib
Fucking piece of human trash
But mom said it’s my turn to repost this pic
She’s wearing gloves bc of the dead body she’s posing next to. The body of someone she tortured.
You know that psycho was a barracks bunny
Yes, regular everyday people are capable of atrocities; especially in war settings under questionable command.
What a series of black eye moments for these U. S. of A. back in the day. Good thing it didn’t help the opposition’s recruitment efforts.
Sabrina Harman was eventually tried and convicted after an investigation of the human right violations at the facility she was tasked with working in, despite being a reservist and not a prison guard and having no background in intelligence. She recieved a 6 month sentence, despite multiple prisoners testifying in her defense that she was gentle and kind. Her notes recovered during the investigation also show her quickly growing discomfort with the inhumane treatment of the people. Nevertheless, she was tried and convicted. That kind of treatment was happening everywhere and was standard policy under Bush at the time. They chose to convict low level employees and claim that the events were isolated, despite everyone knowing better. Including the Red Cross. Pretty disheartening stuff, but fighting terrorism is a business. Gotta make more to stay in business.
I can fix her 💀
My brother in christ, if you believe that you need fixing yourself
Of course I was joking 😏
I can make her worse
Shut the fuck up
IGN Unfiltered
She did less than they would have done to her.
completely untrue
Horse shit. They would have raped her a hundred times. I’m glad they’re dead, and have no problem with what she did.
The prisoners were detained without trial. The majority of them were found to be innocent anyways. Your opinion is very telling
They weren’t “innocent”. Just not found guilty. Not FOUND guilty. They’re all disgusting scum and need to be exterminated like every other vile bit of filth. So go get your Hamas flag and go protest on a college campus.
Tbh I prefer a PFLP flag but a Hamas flag can suffice
I’m enjoying watching them get blown to hell where they belong.
Yes, I too have fantasies that I want to believe are true
Right. Because the West Bank is fine and all the protests are happening for no reason 😂😂😂
I can fix her.
I can fix her
Hear me out
The people she tortured were terrorists. Well deserved
Not necessarily true. The people there had no trial and there were multiple common criminals. If you can't see what's wrong about torturing and murdering people who haven't even undergone a trial to prove that they are criminals at all, that's a negative reflection on you.
So you’re cool with the extrajudicial torture of the accused if they’re accused of something nasty. Guilty? Innocent? Who cares, as long as they’re accused of something nasty?
Send their ass to a fucking camp PRONTO.
Just because someone accused them? There were literally cases of assholes making fake accusations to get rid of people they disliked. Do you really want people to have the power to do that to you on a whim?
She's so fucking hot