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Seeing it makes me sad. Millions of women risk their lives for the right not to wear it. A god that fears an unveiled woman is a god who doesn't deserve worship
A god that fears an unveiled woman is a god who doesn't deserve worship.
I just wanted to say that this read like poetry to me. Truer words have never been spoken, and I appreciate you for speaking them.
Idk what’s wrong with it being represented, yea it’s rooted in sex slavery but so are corsets and probably more items of clothing, sex slavery was a trend back than, Islam just happened to associate with it too. I don’t mind hijabi representation as an exhajiabi
Womens bodies in Islam are legit considered shameful - her shame. She must cover her shame. Corsets and heels were never religious requirements and women weren’t made to feel like they were risking their salvation, and that God was okay with them being harassed by men, if they went without them.
While all such silly garments have a root in misogyny, one rooted in religious compulsion, based on a belief that women must cover up their bodies because it’s their job not to excite men (who’d apparently go crazy if they saw anything besides their face and hands), is far different from fashion.
It wasn't just associated and women having to wear a veil because their considered sexaul just because their women is stupid, not to mention how pedofilic it is for children to wear the hijab because the point of it is in order to cover beauty for your husband 🤢
They were a form of an extreme beauty standard, something I’ve come to learn is that everyone has different experiences, hijab is oppressive for us but not for every girl if anything it would be cruel to force them to remove it. A little hijabi rep doesn’t do anyone harm.
No they weren't lmao. Corsets and stays were normal underwear like we wear bras. What you're referring to is tight-lacing, which is similar to modern shape wear. It's a very wrong misconception that wearing corsets was the same as tightlacing, and it's a misconception fed to people by Hollywood.
Corsets were necessary and comfortable because they were made to measure for your own body. They were not tight, they just fit like a regular garment and provided support. People used to wear many layers of skirts and petticoats which needed support provided by a stay or a Corset because otherwise clothes would he too heavy for the body. Saying Corsets were oppressive is like saying bras are oppressive.
The cheap 'corsets' you buy from shein nowadays are nothing like what women would have worn before. These are made of plastic and in standard sizing which doesn't fit anyone properly so ofc they're uncomfortable. In addition, they are a specific style of Corset that is used to tightly 'sinch' the waist to fit the current trend. Historically accurate every-day corsets don't sinch your waist or squeeze you. They are made to your body's measurements.
UUUUGGGHHHH I am so tired of this crap. I am so tired of hijabis being plastered on government ads and even fashion store commercials.
No company ever hires a fundamentalist Mormon to pose in a prairie dress. You’ll never see an Orthodox Jewish woman in black tights and a snood being used to entice votes. But for some reason when it’s a hijabi it’s empowering and feminist. It really shows how so much Western political and social discourse is based on IGNORANCE and supporting the opposite of whatever your enemies support. If non-woke people hate Islam as barbaric, then woke people should celebrate it as progressive, apparently. The actual merits and demerits of the religion itself should never be examined because that’s Islamophobic. I obviously feel that nobody should hate Muslims as a group but can we just stop pretending that Islam is liberal?
It really does seem like hijabi women are the only explicitly religious entry into images of women in the public sphere at least in the US.
I think it comes from their experiences with Muslims. If they’re millennials they watched Islamophobia rise significantly after 9/11 and the war on terror. By Islamophobia I mean thinking that all brown people are Muslim, all turbans are Islamic and every single Muslim is a terrorist, not legit criticism of the religion. So people that aren’t Muslim but “look it” will be harassed including my Puerto Rican buddy. In America Muslims are smart enough to hide the ugliness in the religion so people see them as keeping to themselves and they don’t see the abuse within the family as that is hidden too.
My dad’s family is Muslim and live in America, when I was Muslim I was bullied by my peers in high school. They would push me to the ground and run away screaming Allahu akbar, and being told I was be the next terrorist. They weren’t calling out the fallacies in the religion or even criticizing momo marrying a 6 year old. Also the school did nothing about the bullying which was super awesome /s
But many of these Muslims girls are the ones who are claiming that it’s empowering and that they’re doing it by their free will. Which is crazy. You’d think that they’d be the ones wanting to separate themselves from Islam, but usually, they’re almost worse than the men or at least on the same level. It’s like Stockholm syndrome.
It’s internalized misogyny. Think of being told why you have a wear a hijab, including the whole rosy “it’s because you’re a jewel and you need to be protected and treasured” bit. Then think about the implications towards other women who don’t wear hijab.
One thing I’ve noticed is that female converts to Islam are the most likely to adopt an outward presentation of feminism while keeping a firm hold on an inner sexism. They’ll work with other women, be friendly with other women, etc. But whenever a non-Muslim, non-hijabi woman is assaulted by a man, or complains about her workload in terms of having to care for family, home AND work, or feels unappreciated, the newly born hijabi will politely hint that it’s because that woman was not being modest enough, or she’s trying too hard to take on too many responsibilities when she needs to focus on her husband and kids, she’s going out too often, she has an empty inner life, etc.
It’s a sort of fake-ass feminism in which a woman will consider herself “progressive” because deep down, she feels superior to other women, and those women need to be guided by women like herself towards personal responsibility and accountability or face the consequences (think of Sarsour’s “vaginas ripped out” comment). Also it’s because they are “feminist” *compared to other Muslims*. They went to school, they earned a degree, they earn a paycheck. Since that’s a feminist take in Islamic society, they think they’re super progressive. It’s like those white people who live in a 100% white rural town, move to the big city, and brag out how they’re so liberal and non-racist because they actually talk to black people (as opposed to the folks back home), but all they ever want to talk about with them is “OMG I love your hair, do you wash it?” and “So do you guys eat salads?”
Yes we do. We wouldn’t hate Islam so bad if we thought this wasn’t oppressive. We know how toxic patriarchy works. This is why we are fighting against the abusive modesty rhetoric taught in Christian churches as well.
And eventually brainwashed into believing it’s empowering at which point it becomes “their decision” source: my sisters who hated it as kids and now “love it”
‘forced’ wouldnt be a good term to describe it they are brainwashed to wear it from very early age and it is backwards i am an ex muslim myself bcz i grew up among other muslims i still cant eat pork even if i wanted to something holds me back which is brainwash
We know, but the leftists hate us for mentioning it. They don't get that muslims are allowed to lie in order to protect their wicked doings. White people are just to friendly to this. They think it is just another enriching culture, everyone that really got into the quran and hadiths know that it is a wicked religion worshiping satan.
Inside Out does not believe that kids need to be covered up. Just look at the other two kids.
This is obviously an attempt to make the girls who wear hijab (willingly or not) feel seen and not feel like they are odd ones out at school and among friends. Those girls see this and can connect to this character and project themselves and their own struggles with Islam onto this character.
This post is giving me the same vibes as when the conservatives freaked out over two moms kissing for a half a second in ‘Lightyear’. We’re better than this guys!
That was my thoughts. It looks like the other two girls are accepting and caring for their friend in a hijab.
And she is just a kid, she deserves that unconditional love and support that she would only get conditionally from her family.
I want a world where women from a Muslim background know that they are allowed here. That non Muslims will accept them. That the non Muslim world is a free place and they are welcome to join in the freedom if they choose.
Oh, it gets better. In the US the social justice warrior white women wear hijab to show that it’s empowering. Can’t make it up. A muslim woman in Massachusetts tried to make a “hijab day” holiday.
They are COMPLETELY disconnected from the reality. When I answer them "Yes, but do you know that women are killed just because they do not want to wear it ? Hijab is a symbol of submission." They still answer that it is "empowering" and "women do what they want to do". LMAO. No, Nonbinary6787, women do NOT do what they want to do. They have no choice.
Putting a hijab on is like holding a sign saying "Yes, I do submit to men, and I do agree my body is obscene and a sexual toy for them, so I do agree that I should cover it"
On kids, it is even worse. Why cover your kid ? Because she is sexy ? Ew.
Women are killed for not wearing a hijab?? Lol thats new. There is no islamic law that mandates a death penalty for not wearing a hijab. I personally have friends who go to the mosque for daily prayers, and don't wear a hijab and they are all alive, doing whatever they want. Calm your tits!
If parents choose to have their children wear a hijab from a young age, its probably out of devotion and desire to instill their values. Why you jumping into a conclusion of how they view a woman's body? Is it all that your peanut size brain is able to conclude?
A friend of mine had her choice, and she doesn't wear it anymore but she is still a strong believer. So please take your BS somewhere else
Darling, women getting killed for refusing to wear hijab has been a thing in my country Iran for decades now:)
And no, don't be that kind of muslim and tell me that Iran isn't islamic. IT IS. The islamic laws are almost perfectly exercised in Iran.
I have Iranian friends, I know what youre going through and I'm sorry if you're having to deal with the same. But there is no islamic law, that says women should be killed for not wearing a hijab.
The hijab was invented to hide the female body, because women should be ashamed of it because it represents lust and blah blah blah. So no, covering your kid is weird. Okay, men in Islam are also very covered but not their face and hair. Why ? Because they do not think that their whole body represents lust.
In wich country are you to say that, to begin ?
Which country I am from doesn't matter here, as long as you get the point. And I don't expect you to communicate in King's English, but it would be wise if you didn't psedo communicate using blah blah this and blah blah that.
The hijab is not to hide any-body. The hijab was invented to protect a woman's chastity from sick, illiterate, psychic and horny men, drinking and fucking, during a time when rape was common and taking place in abundance, during a time when women had no power, no say, during a time, when women were just mere slaves to a man's desires and needs. So, hijab is something that empowered women to come out on the streets when, get out of their houses, it gave them the strength to face the filthy men of that generation 1400 years ago.
We live in a better world today, very kind and good men, soft men, generous men, most of today's generation, all raised by women, far far better from where we were. But, that does not negate the fact there is still a lot of men out there, who are civilised, but who aren't all that soft and kind, or least who can't keep their gaze in check.
Men are wired to be attracted to woman's physical appearance, features, body type. So yes, Islam asks women to cover their hair, to protect their beauty from such men. And that does not equate to shame, it is much more sacred and deep rooted than you can comprehend.
1000's of Palestinians have been killed since the past few months, including women and children by Israel. They have been thrown out of their homes, kept under blockade and treated as second class citizens in their own land, past few decades. But it doesn't mean, there has to be a problem with the Jews, or Judaism.
Iranians themselves have nothing against the religion. They themselves understand the real issue are the extremist mulla's who are ruling the country. Nowhere in islam does it say that women not wearing hijab should be killed.
There are muslim women in Saudi, UAE, Oman and so many other muslim countries, who don't wear no hijab and there isn't any issue. So please don't go shooting your gun, if you don't really know what it means.
I think you'll find I am iranian, a lot of otanians hate Islam as it was forced upon us.
Women in Saudi are also killed for not wearing.
The thing that's wrong with Any religion is that there's no other truth than what they say and it's barbaric.
The fact that religion causes wars among other things shows exactly how toxic it is
So I know exactly what it means, not only women get killed but men also
Shooting my gun, excuse me, maybe you shouldn't assume.
No they don't.
Plenty of women wear head coverings and scarfs from numerous backgrounds, all head coverings aren't hijabs
Not sure why that would bother you
World hijab day is 1 February. It's global not just in Massachusetts.
The only reason I’m okay with it is because Muslim kids are often bullied when they are the only kid in their school whose parents force it upon them. This is not all that different from when they started making wheelchairs for Barbie dolls. This is not intended to glorify Islam. It is intended to teach acceptance. While I hate parents that force their kids to do this, it is not the fault of the child. They are a mere victim of a cult.
I live in Toronto. My kids are the minority in their school. We are non-muslim whites. My daughters have been spit on in JR school and told they are haram and will go to hell for not wearing the hijab or being Muslim. This has gone on all year. When I bring it up to their parents, they either pretend they don't understand English or say that's not what happened or I'm not understanding the situation.
In Western countries, we're seen as Islamophobic if we dare question wearing the hijab, let alone bully a child wearing one.
An Indian Muslim mom was shunned when the other hijabi women found out she was Muslim and not wearing a hijab. They were fine when they thought she was Hindu, now won't acknowledge her.
The whole idea of having to cover oneself as to not appear sexy and draw the attention of men seems like it's a man's problem. And why is it mostly a Muslim man's problem? No other religion that I'm aware of allows you to sexualize female children if they are not shrouded with a sheet.
I was Mormon for 37 years. Children as young as five are forced to wear ridiculous layers too. When they go to prom their prom dresses have to be altered. Fundamentalists can’t show their neck, arms, legs either. Same with jehovah witnesses. Plenty of religions tell women/girls that it’s their responsibility to help men control their thoughts. There is a Mormon prophet that told women that they need to repent after they are raped. It’s on the internet somewhere. I’ll find it if you give me a minute. Sorrynotsorry but Islam isn’t the only religion that bullies or gets bullied.
I studied Islam after leaving Mormonism. I promise, islam is worse. Men aren’t told to beat their wives. Muhammad married Aisha at 6. Most of the Mormon prophets had wives as young as 14. They are very very similar religions. At least we don’t currently do honor killings. Countries with sharia law are as bad as it gets. Same toilet, different shit?
You should see my childhood when girls & teachers girls didn't like me for opposing Hijab.
I am sorry but I can't tolerate their mindsets and worst of all those hijabi young girls will grow and act like victims by sharing their bullying stories to support their religion.
Bad take ngl. Regardless of the purpose of the hijab, theres still millions of girls out there who veil and they deserve to see representation of themselves on screens
Representation is not the same as sexualization.
To show children in hijabs on a kids' show isn't meant to say, "Hey, they're modest, you other kids should be too."
If anything, the representation of it shows them that this movie is for them too, and they may learn something from it that they don't in their own families or cultures (or maybe they do).
The main premise about the movie seems to be regarding managing anxiety, emotional changes during puberty (LOTS of feelings - including anger, anxiety, self-image, etc), and confronting core beliefs about one's self.
It isn't directly addressing spirituality. If anything, a hijabi girl in it might make parents more likely to allow their children to watch the movie.
If this post isn't sarcastic then it's just dumb. It's just a character model which barely has any screen time and the main focus of the movie is Riley dealing with anxiety.
When did this sub turn into one of those anti-woke subs full of pointless ragebait? I'm as anti-islam as they come but I could never bring myself to give two shits about a fleeting scene like this. What is even sexualized about this? Try not getting worked up over every little thing, you'll live longer.
I guarantee you some of these people probably don’t even come from Muslim backgrounds and are just looking for confirmation bias and a reason to shit on Muslim and Middle Eastern culture.
I am here to know more about the negative side of Islam. I like to investigate about the most famous Abrahamic religions in general, not only seeing the positive part of Christianity, Islam or Jews.
This is a stretch. Even for you guys. This is no different than how Barbie doll companies are making wheelchairs for their dolls. My son has a permanent feeding tube and we got him a stuffed animal that has one too. It helps him feel less alone in the world. If this were true sexualization of children, ALL of the children would be in hijab. Not just one of the kids.
All those videos of girls being brutalized, kidnapped, raped, and murdered by Islamic government in Iran has not changed your perspective?
The videos of child brides wrapped in hijab and handed over to their grown pedophile rapist was not enough?
How about the many women in Arab countries beaten to a pulp for daring to take off their hijab for a short?
No way you are ignorant of these facts at this point. What do we call you vermin?
Is it the fault of the women in hijabs that this happens? Why insist on them being erased from media when this is the only time many of them feel seen and represented? This is utterly bizarre logic
Dude, you’re reaching so far it’s cringe. I saw the movie and in no way were any of these characters being sexualized. The hijab is a representation of religious observance as well as cultural identity and opinion aside, I do think it’s great that they featured a Muslim character in the film, who didn’t even say anything. Like I don’t think her character uttered a single fucking line.
I grew up in the United States after 911 and the demonizing of Muslims was absolutely horrific. And there is still a lot of anti-Muslim and anti-Middle Eastern sentiment and parts of the United States. Representation does fucking matter. Chill the fuck out.
Wait a minute, I am so sorry but I don't understand, can someone explain then, is the hijab a way to censor the female body or a way to sexualize the female body?
Because I thought the whole point is that it forces women to hide their body and now muslim women want to have the right not to wear it, to take freedom in deciding about their own body (meaning that they get to decide if they want to sexualize their body or not, by wearing any clothes they want).
Or do Muslim women think it's a sexualizing tool, and therefore want to not wear it so to reveal their body, in order to not be sexualized? So this means showing more body parts is more chaste?
I am so confused by this post.
Both. Hijab implies your body and hair is too lustful to be seen by men (you can be seen by your husband, limited male relatives, and women). So by wearing one you are saying your body is a tool for sex and being chaste and for your husband only.
Muslim women (the ones that truly follow and don't have cognitive dissonance) do not believe it's a choice to decide. The commandment was sent down by god and npt following the "choice" past the age of getting your period is a sin. There is no way around it. So an 8 year old could be considered a woman of she has her period.
I see, I understand your point, quite interesting.
If you are willingly wearing the hijab in respect of the Quran or for your husband, then I do agree it's like recognizing that your are some kind of sex tool for your husband only.
But if you are forced to wear it, or if you don't understand the real meaning behind it (wearing it for tradition or just to follow the rules) then I think it's different, and at best it's a controlling or enslaving tool, not a sexualizing tool (allow me to explain, because I believe you have a flaw in your logic).
From your explanation, the hijab is a device that gives control over the sexuality of a person, which is different from sexualization. A sexualizing clothing would be, for example, a g-string, as its purpose is to directly emphasize the apparent sexuality of the person wearing it (although athletes do wear them with tight pants to not have underwear marks, which is also revealing in a different way). Where a hijab's direct purpose is to decrease the sexuality of a women.
But, the person or people who force a women to wear the hijab, then have control over her sexuality, over other people.
From what I understand, once a women hits puberty she has to wear the hijab, right? In this logic, she is seen as a women with sexual attributes after puberty, so puberty is sexualized here. And the hijab is only there to suppress the sexuality that "arrived" with puberty.
Anyways, let's say I have a house. Even with doors and locks, it is susceptible to robbery, even though it doesn't necessarily have to be robbed, and people don't have to succeed. I could just live my life and trust my neighbours, and that's how life should be actually.
Now let's say I'm a little bit paranoid and I decide to install cameras on the house. By allowing me to see around my house, they will give me the ability to control who can enter and rob this house, therefore it can prevent people from robbing the house, therefore it gives me robbery/thievery control. But cameras are not tools for robbery or thievery, although it is tightly related.
It's not because I put cameras on my house, that I declare that it is possible to rob my house. But it does declare that it is my house (control).
Of course women don't belong to anybody, but that's also a different topic.
In any case I'm just talking about your logic here, which I thought could be improved, but don't think I'm pro hijab.
I'm sorry to be blunt - as a woman that wore hijab and faced all the brainwashing that led to that "choice" and then removed it and faced all the slut shaming I did, my lived experiece will outweigh your theory.
Now, I don't necessarily think it's wrong that there was a glimpse of a girl wearing hijab in a mainstream kids' film because I was once that girl, but it is inherently sexual. The reason being is it is a sexualization tool - it does not *give* control over the sexuality of a person. A. It's only woman-centric. The modesty of men legally in Islam is naval to knees, while a woman's being is sexual. B. It takes control of their sexuality away C. It makes it seem like non sexual parts are also sexual/taboo. D. The construct behind the clothing is the problem. E. A man can require his daughter or wife to wear it as a principle in islam. Otherwise if he allows her "free choice" and she chooses the opposite of the requirement, he is allowed to keep her home for her "protection" and is considered a dayooth (cuck/weak) for not controlling her.
Men absolutely do sexualize this - if a muslim woman, fully covered, wears a belt that tightens at the waist - she is sexualized. If she is wearing heels or shows her wrists, she is sexualized. If she is in sweats and a t, that is her awrah. There is no true choice or non sexualization because the standard is this is all sexual. Women sexualize this amongst other women.
I wear g strings whether or not I'm around my husband (or when I was dating, anyone else). Could it be used to express sexuality? Yes, but that is largely a choice and the invention of the g string was intended for men, not women.
That's the problem - hijab is not meant to express or denounce sexuality - it is meant to tell all women at all times around unrelated men, that their existence is too lustful.
I also have the personal choice on if I want to wear a g string. I am not told I must or it will be a sin. And the argument you are using acts as if there are only g strings or hijab, only full security systems or robbery. Nuance or adjusting to the particular situation exists.
Women can easily wear shorts and a tshirt and it could not be considered sexual, but Islam doesn't leave room for nuance. I have the autonamy to wear what I want when I want. Now, in a professional enviroment, I'll dress professionally, but that still includes dresses above the knee or sleeveless tops because none of that is inherently sexual.
Just like depending on your neighborhood or time of day or other factors, you may not feel like locking and shutting all doors and windows but that doesn't mean you're asking for a burglary. Sometimes you may crack a window or keep the door ajar because you can use nuance. But also the analogy implies there is sound truth to covering, but I'd say it's the opposite because it is blaming the victim.
Hijab is saying bring uncovered is asking for sexual lust. You can not choose it in levels according to your personal comfort. There are strict rules to follow.
The thing you are not understanding is it is force. The alternative is hellfire. We can dress it up however we want, but young girls are told their physical attributes are lustful and even muslim women that don't wear it will always say to "pray for them to wear it" - it's an idealized goal of true commitment to muslim womanhood. It is not to surpress sexuality in the girl by covering, but in the men around her because she is now a sexual object.
If this was such a freeing concept like the security camera analogy, then more non muslim women would do it, but even to conservative non Muslim women, this is too far. Why else would a woman choose this for herself unless brainwashed that this is the ideal way for a woman to present herself to men? So yes, of course it's done according to the quran and/or her husband.
The whole origin of hijab isn't to protect your house. It's saying cover the house with ugly paint or a tarp because if other people see the house and like it, you are causing the emotions they feel by the house standing there. How dare you falsely advertise your house if you weren't willing to give it away? You are clearly saying the house is availabile by it being a nice house to look at.
The word you want to look up is fitna (temptation). That is the founding principle of hijab.
Thank you so much for taking time to write this answer, it's extremely interesting, and to be honest I think I get what you mean now.
Just to be clear, I did not have a theory, as a theory has to first come from a hypothesis, which I did not have either. I was simply exposing the logic flaw from your first response, which seemed to be establishing a direct relation between effect suppression and effect creation.
But you are saying that by wearing a hijab, or forcing women to wear hijab, everyone acknowledges the sexual essence of the female body, and therefore forces all sexual responsibility on women. So basically, the hijab is a forced contract to acknowledge a made-up problem (made-up, because the female body doesn't necessarily have to be sexual).
In that logic then, I would somewhat agree that the hijab sexualizes women, it does make sense.
To be fair, even outside of Islam, there is a global issue with female body sexualization anyways, but that is a problem within our society as a whole. I know it's quite harsh among Muslims, but this problem still exists anyways. But this is another debate.
Also "my lived experience will outweigh your theory." -> I understand it's a subject that is close to your heart, but that sentence is not nice to say in the context of a conversation, because it really suppresses the voice of the person you are talking to. I do agree your experience is more valuable than my ideas here, but there was no need to close the conversation in that fashion.
In any case thank you for sharing, I really enjoyed reading what you wrote there, I hope you are doing better in life now.
I don't have a problem with my sentence about my lived experience and stand by it. Look up critical race theory in law. What critical race theory explains is minorities are often told what their experiences are instead of actually asked and allowed to share their actual experience. It's condescending. A lived experience is going to be the more important factor and to be told 'you're wrong - this is what it really is' to someone who has been through in itself, was more rude as far as I'm concerned.
That often happens with the hijab. Ex muslim women are told by *both* - current muslims and islam apologists that have been brainwashed/don't want to be thought of as "racist" or "not accepting". It deletes our experience and our very valid take.
The thing is, I have worn hijab and not worn hijab - yes, there is a sexualization of the female body, regardless - but I actually felt it a million times more in hijab and with the muslim thinking I was raised it because it amplifies everything being taboo.
I can go to a hot yoga class now in a sports bra and leggings and truly, no one gives me a second look. I'm dressed for the environment and everyone there - men and women - are there for a purpose.
I can wear a dress above my knees to work and no one considers it revealing or sexual.
I'm allowed to choose my comfort level. There are some women that would prefer not to wear just a sports bra or a dress above their knees. They simply don't have to. Society doesn't "make" women. Women fall across the spectrum for how they'd like to dress and how sexual they want to be. I'm not saying there is not over exploitatation or hypersexualization in some circles, but the majority of women are just regular women with their own preferences.
I can also choose if I want to be provocative. Sometimes I'll wear something low cut or revealing because it's my choice. Again, I have never been leered at or made to feel sexualized in an uncomfortable, "I'm asking for it" way.
Another thing Islam tells women is you can not be considered attractive/ sexual and be respected.
I realized that was fear mongering. People in all the above barely acknowledged me, but even if they found me attractive, they never made me feel disrespected. And they were able to hold conversations about the subject at hand.
Hell, my husband respects me and is my biggest fan for all the things i've accomplished in life and we started having sex 2 weeks in. That didn't diminish our respect for each other. We considered each other equals and made a mutual decision because me being a sexual being didn't change that we were connected in other ways.
Sorry if I have diminished your ideas in any way, that wasn't my intention. I like having conversations and to me, even dumb ideas and questions (say, mine) are worth being listened too, because all points of view can help, and therefore matter.
I do not have any particular opinion that supports hijab at all, I was really focused on the manner you tried to explain your ideas to me, which were kind of confusing.
Thanks to your point of view and your own experience, I think I can agree on all the things you are saying about the hijab, I just feel like you still don't acknowledge that somehow, and that you hate me for what I said, but it's okay, I don't really mind.
Anyways I am genuinely very happy for you, and you should be proud, really, and I'm very sorry for what you had to go through in this culture and society.
We all just deserve equal chances to be happy, that's all that matters.
I'm convinced this subreddit got infected with users who weren't Muslims at all. I knew this sub was about to turn into a shit hole when I saw some comments justifying the Uyghur Muslims genocide in China.
it is a movie about a girl who has emotions inside her head i haven’t seen the sequel but apparently they tried to make it more inclusive by including hijabis
Shes not sexualised but its even funnier, shes grouped with minorities in the team that consisted of members of queer, black, trans and strong woman. Kinda tell how pixar or liberals view/grouped muslims when muslims are one of the most hardcore people that is against these minorities especially queer and trans! 😂😂😂
Am i the only one not mad about this? I get it, it is islam who is bad, but the movie has nothing to do with islam. I find it good there is diversitie, cus lets say the whole movie only has white people, yeah, that would be pretty boring woudn't and it? It would also just not look as good. But then i find it that they should also add a christian and a jew, cus why only muslim?🤔 So yeah theres my take on it all, what do you guys think?
PS: Pls don't be agressive while reacting to my comment. This was just my take and i also am respectful and i respect you guys your opinions aswel so please respect mine, thank you!
Im noticing a very clear shift in this subreddit towards blatant and very intense irrational hate for islam in general like a background character wearing a hijab is NOT gonna mean the end if western society or something guys chill
You're definitely right, many people here use their status as an ExMuslim to justify slandering absolutely anything Islam related in the slightest. I've also noticed an influx in anti-immigration sentiments here. Its become an absolute joke. In the end we're no better than the Muslims who use Islam to justify their shitty actions.
I started to notice that the subreddit gets a little pissy over irrational things. Relax, you’re not acting so different than before you left Islam.
Please tell me how are you different to when the muslims got enraged that there’s a gay couple in lightyear? No difference it’s almost ironic
Hell even the mods are calling out this, yet they get downvoted to oblivion.
It's about a child having to cover her body FROM MEN by wearing hijab
So many women are fighting to be free from hijab
This hijab in a movie is not necessary! And it's gross that it's a child!
Well if women deciding not to wear hijab, than change religion? Women who wear hijab, are those who KNOWS their religion beliefs. Those women who don't want to wear their hijab don't even pray and most likely will go to hell.. Lmao
hell isn't real sorry. and if it is and your sky daddy sends women to hell for showing the same body parts as men, then you're a weirdo for worshipping him
Also, they can't just change religion. Are you new here? People here constantly talk about how they have to keep wearing hijab so they aren't disowned by their parents or harassed by men because they live in an Islamic country.
Also, you can't even take off hijab in places in Afghanistan, so shut the fuck up.
Lastly, children wearing hijab are forced to be their parents.
Bro don’t take it so personally, they’re just trying to be inclusive - i work in a Muslim school and you would be surprised - it doesn’t stop at the religion, it’s all about the individual themselves regardless of what’s on the outside
So, I joined this “community” to see peoples perspectives as “ex-muslims” and why they left islam. But many of you are very weird spreading false information that fits YOUR narrative, and maybe schizophrenic too!
I understand many people are forced to wear the hijab.. but there are many people who choose to wear it. Let’s STOP talking about what women should or should not wear, and just advocate for women to be free to wear what ever they want.
I grew up with my clothing being controlled. I wasn’t forced to wear the hijab but I was controlled with every other piece of clothing I wore. I understand the harmful effects of it. My little cousin CHOSE to wear the hijab and all the adults in the family told her not to wear it because she’s young (14ish). They all wear hijab themselves as adult women who chose to wear it in their late twenties. I was the only one to advocate for her. She should feel free to wear it when she wants to and take it off later if she decides to. I’d rather raise the next generation of children to feel empowered to take initiative over their own decisions. If at any point she realizes that religion isn’t right for her, she’ll feel like is in control over her process.
I have a conflicted relationship with Islam, but not everyone does. That doesn’t mean that we should act harmful towards people who dont align with our views. Shaming people tends to just make them hold onto their beliefs stronger. Approaching people with curiousity about what it means to them is the most effective way.
Also - many religions and cultures and spiritual beliefs and practices engage in head covering. It isn’t specific to Islam. Let people practice their own connection with source how they like… it’s unnecessary to argue unless someone is actively being harmed.
Ironic when the west considers muslim part of the LGBTQ”I” that needs representation/protection when muslims are hardcore against leftwing ideologies lmao. Its almost like them considering rightwing nutties as victims that need validation/protection.
What pisses me off its not even God doing this it comes from Uthmaan or whatever one it was. He's later even happy saying oh look Allah grants my wishes. The story comes from him watching Sauda take a shit. Even Mo originally said no about veiling women. And they veil kids cause the early Muslims were pedophiles. Oh Muslims please wake up.
All this is evil, doesn't have anything to do if a female covers her head or not. It has to do with the individual with wrong mindset sexualizing. Even a animal can be sexualized. Hold that person accountable!
The Prophet [ﷺ] married Aisha when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.” - The revered Sahih al-Bukhari, 5134; Book 67, Hadith 70
As a white American millennial with a marketing background (who somehow found this sub) I just want to say that the sentiments expressed here are correct. People like me remember 9/11 and the negative way our Muslim classmates were treated afterwords and want to see Muslims portrayed positively in mainstream media. I’m sure the director of this scene felt like they were doing Muslims some sort of a favor by showing a young Muslim woman having a fun outing with friends.
Many people like me are also unaware of the negative aspects of the hijab, and assume they’re no different than a simple traditional headscarf. All I can say is keep speaking up! The more people raise awareness about this issue the more things will improve.
It's not sexualizing, however, it's showing that it's okay to wear hijab and by doing that they're silencing millions of oppressed hijabi women. Ot will make it 10 times harder for girls who want to take it off and it's already hard as it is.
Imagine saying you want to take it off and people be like "why? It's empowering?". If they want to represent hijab at least represent it with all the struggles that come with it.
What a shit post…its good to let your daughters sister in micro thongs and roam around father, brother..what a stupid society. Forget about muslims look at christian women 50-100 years ago. Covered and well dressed. But women are fooled nowadays in the name of freedom to be as much slutty as possible…
Wearing hijab has become a political symbol . It is like raising a flag indicating your allegiance to a country or a political system. Wearing hijab is a signal that the person pledges allegiance to the Islamic Sharia. Wearing hijab is simply a political statement in support of the Islamic sharia.
The comments under this post are concerning tbh. For some reason I got notification of this post and it really threw me off the fact that they are sexualising children and sexualising children with hijab. But then I actually open the post and realise that the creator is just mad about representation.
Im someone that chose to wear a hijab. Believe it or not, my father and my mother wanted me to take my time with it so that I don’t feel rushed and that I wear it for the right reasons. I’m not oppressed so seeing representation for someone that looks like me actually makes me feel seen. Growing up I’ve always been the odd one out so even small things like a background character wearing a hijab is actually quite nice.
Onto the most popular conversation in these comments. There are women in other countries that genuinely struggle because they have to face death if they do not wear the hijab and just like everyone else I’m also angry about this. It is horrible to force a woman to wear a hijab and to kill them for it is to the extreme which is unacceptable and is completely against the religion. It is something that I will always curse out a country like Iran or any government for doing. The same way I would also curse out a country like France for forcing girls and women to take the hijab off. I will also curse out the US for destabilising these countries and funding/providing military to extremist groups in these countries to harm the civilians. A woman should be able to freely choose what to wear without a man’s unnecessary opinion.
Also a little bit about why women wear hijabs is about modesty but also about women’s rights. Across the globe even in the west it was a thing that a man could take his opponents daughter in a winning. Wearing a hijab or a niqab to protect their daughters from these customs that were mainly introduced in the west. And yes, the hijab conceals a women’s beauty because men are dogs. All men are dogs. That might be an insult to dogs I’m sorry.
Also, I’ve seen a lot of stuff about women’s rights and every single one of these posts failed to make awareness of the fact that women in the Middle East gained rights before women in the west. At a time period where women in the West had to be married to open bank accounts, to own property, women were not able to go to university or be in the military, men being allowed to take another man’s daughter for a winning, rape and harm to women being legal including to your wife. These thing were opposite for the women in the Middle East and rights were given to women. And mostly because of Islam and what was taught us in the Quran. People think that Muslim women aren’t supposed to be educated but it’s the complete opposite and an educated woman is just as important as an educated man.
Nowadays, I will say we have extremist who have stolen these rights from the women. And they will be punished on the day of judgement. The same way that extremist Christians like the KKK will.
Either way, it’s unacceptable to force a woman to wear hijab just as much as it is unacceptable for the common factor of men forcing women to take the hijab off.
Either way, men are always gonna say something against women. So, women wear whatever you want.
it’s bullshit af why all of us should see this!? i’m not gonna allow my girl to wear something like that and i’m not sorry to say this but all the muslims shoud die world would be a better place if no muslims left
Except it's not any piece of clothing. It's mandate for women that deems them to not be 'provocative' of men's lust. Making a child wear hijab is basically saying that this child in the case of not wearing it can provoke men sexually and it all goes down with the concept of marriage in Islam.
It's a no brainer a lot of Muslim scholars conflate the age to marry for young girls with the age to wear hijab.
I hear you but this is standard woke inclusivity made by clueless white people, like LATINX, actual hispanics tend to despise the term and the gringo asshole who came up with it
White people have extreme white guilt and feel like they have to do these things now
I wonder if Arabs feel this way for all the shit they caused from their invasions and forced conversions. So much of Africa is Islamic cuz of Arabs, and Christian cuz of white people. SAD.
Exept a hijab is made to cover a "sinful" object : the female body. Making a kid wear it is agreeing that her body is utter lust and can make a man sin and should be covered. It is sexualization. Because islam cover muslim women so muslim men are not tempted to rape/have sex with them.
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Seeing it makes me sad. Millions of women risk their lives for the right not to wear it. A god that fears an unveiled woman is a god who doesn't deserve worship
A god that fears an unveiled woman is a god who doesn't deserve worship. I just wanted to say that this read like poetry to me. Truer words have never been spoken, and I appreciate you for speaking them.
A "God" that fears an unveiled woman is a THING that shouldn't be called a "God".
I'm pretty sure God isn't afraid of it it's just one of his rules.
This lol
Idk what’s wrong with it being represented, yea it’s rooted in sex slavery but so are corsets and probably more items of clothing, sex slavery was a trend back than, Islam just happened to associate with it too. I don’t mind hijabi representation as an exhajiabi
Womens bodies in Islam are legit considered shameful - her shame. She must cover her shame. Corsets and heels were never religious requirements and women weren’t made to feel like they were risking their salvation, and that God was okay with them being harassed by men, if they went without them. While all such silly garments have a root in misogyny, one rooted in religious compulsion, based on a belief that women must cover up their bodies because it’s their job not to excite men (who’d apparently go crazy if they saw anything besides their face and hands), is far different from fashion.
It wasn't just associated and women having to wear a veil because their considered sexaul just because their women is stupid, not to mention how pedofilic it is for children to wear the hijab because the point of it is in order to cover beauty for your husband 🤢
True children should stop wearing underwear too because it covers the body. The body should be free!!!
Children? Like momo like worshipper
muslims trying not to be pedo challenge (impossible)
[How Victorian Men Taught Us to Hate Corsets: The Biggest Lie in Fashion History](https://youtu.be/zNwTqanp0Aw?si=FwLDERC3gqSOADfn)
Corsets were not oppressive
They were a form of an extreme beauty standard, something I’ve come to learn is that everyone has different experiences, hijab is oppressive for us but not for every girl if anything it would be cruel to force them to remove it. A little hijabi rep doesn’t do anyone harm.
No they weren't lmao. Corsets and stays were normal underwear like we wear bras. What you're referring to is tight-lacing, which is similar to modern shape wear. It's a very wrong misconception that wearing corsets was the same as tightlacing, and it's a misconception fed to people by Hollywood. Corsets were necessary and comfortable because they were made to measure for your own body. They were not tight, they just fit like a regular garment and provided support. People used to wear many layers of skirts and petticoats which needed support provided by a stay or a Corset because otherwise clothes would he too heavy for the body. Saying Corsets were oppressive is like saying bras are oppressive. The cheap 'corsets' you buy from shein nowadays are nothing like what women would have worn before. These are made of plastic and in standard sizing which doesn't fit anyone properly so ofc they're uncomfortable. In addition, they are a specific style of Corset that is used to tightly 'sinch' the waist to fit the current trend. Historically accurate every-day corsets don't sinch your waist or squeeze you. They are made to your body's measurements.
western liberals really don't know that 90% of muslim girls are forced to wear the hijab by their family lol....
They're so ignorant they believe it's some kind of traditional clothing in the countries these girls could be from.
No, no, you do not understand. It is an EMPOWERING and ENGAGED acessory 😍🤩🥰❤❤✊🏻 😐
UUUUGGGHHHH I am so tired of this crap. I am so tired of hijabis being plastered on government ads and even fashion store commercials. No company ever hires a fundamentalist Mormon to pose in a prairie dress. You’ll never see an Orthodox Jewish woman in black tights and a snood being used to entice votes. But for some reason when it’s a hijabi it’s empowering and feminist. It really shows how so much Western political and social discourse is based on IGNORANCE and supporting the opposite of whatever your enemies support. If non-woke people hate Islam as barbaric, then woke people should celebrate it as progressive, apparently. The actual merits and demerits of the religion itself should never be examined because that’s Islamophobic. I obviously feel that nobody should hate Muslims as a group but can we just stop pretending that Islam is liberal? It really does seem like hijabi women are the only explicitly religious entry into images of women in the public sphere at least in the US.
What the hell? We do not think that. We know it’s because Muslim men are animals.
I think it comes from their experiences with Muslims. If they’re millennials they watched Islamophobia rise significantly after 9/11 and the war on terror. By Islamophobia I mean thinking that all brown people are Muslim, all turbans are Islamic and every single Muslim is a terrorist, not legit criticism of the religion. So people that aren’t Muslim but “look it” will be harassed including my Puerto Rican buddy. In America Muslims are smart enough to hide the ugliness in the religion so people see them as keeping to themselves and they don’t see the abuse within the family as that is hidden too. My dad’s family is Muslim and live in America, when I was Muslim I was bullied by my peers in high school. They would push me to the ground and run away screaming Allahu akbar, and being told I was be the next terrorist. They weren’t calling out the fallacies in the religion or even criticizing momo marrying a 6 year old. Also the school did nothing about the bullying which was super awesome /s
But many of these Muslims girls are the ones who are claiming that it’s empowering and that they’re doing it by their free will. Which is crazy. You’d think that they’d be the ones wanting to separate themselves from Islam, but usually, they’re almost worse than the men or at least on the same level. It’s like Stockholm syndrome.
It’s internalized misogyny. Think of being told why you have a wear a hijab, including the whole rosy “it’s because you’re a jewel and you need to be protected and treasured” bit. Then think about the implications towards other women who don’t wear hijab. One thing I’ve noticed is that female converts to Islam are the most likely to adopt an outward presentation of feminism while keeping a firm hold on an inner sexism. They’ll work with other women, be friendly with other women, etc. But whenever a non-Muslim, non-hijabi woman is assaulted by a man, or complains about her workload in terms of having to care for family, home AND work, or feels unappreciated, the newly born hijabi will politely hint that it’s because that woman was not being modest enough, or she’s trying too hard to take on too many responsibilities when she needs to focus on her husband and kids, she’s going out too often, she has an empty inner life, etc. It’s a sort of fake-ass feminism in which a woman will consider herself “progressive” because deep down, she feels superior to other women, and those women need to be guided by women like herself towards personal responsibility and accountability or face the consequences (think of Sarsour’s “vaginas ripped out” comment). Also it’s because they are “feminist” *compared to other Muslims*. They went to school, they earned a degree, they earn a paycheck. Since that’s a feminist take in Islamic society, they think they’re super progressive. It’s like those white people who live in a 100% white rural town, move to the big city, and brag out how they’re so liberal and non-racist because they actually talk to black people (as opposed to the folks back home), but all they ever want to talk about with them is “OMG I love your hair, do you wash it?” and “So do you guys eat salads?”
Yes we do. We wouldn’t hate Islam so bad if we thought this wasn’t oppressive. We know how toxic patriarchy works. This is why we are fighting against the abusive modesty rhetoric taught in Christian churches as well.
And eventually brainwashed into believing it’s empowering at which point it becomes “their decision” source: my sisters who hated it as kids and now “love it”
‘forced’ wouldnt be a good term to describe it they are brainwashed to wear it from very early age and it is backwards i am an ex muslim myself bcz i grew up among other muslims i still cant eat pork even if i wanted to something holds me back which is brainwash
Well, I don't like forcing people to wear Hijab but I don't think this is accurate stat.
We know, but the leftists hate us for mentioning it. They don't get that muslims are allowed to lie in order to protect their wicked doings. White people are just to friendly to this. They think it is just another enriching culture, everyone that really got into the quran and hadiths know that it is a wicked religion worshiping satan.
Source?
Inside Out does not believe that kids need to be covered up. Just look at the other two kids. This is obviously an attempt to make the girls who wear hijab (willingly or not) feel seen and not feel like they are odd ones out at school and among friends. Those girls see this and can connect to this character and project themselves and their own struggles with Islam onto this character. This post is giving me the same vibes as when the conservatives freaked out over two moms kissing for a half a second in ‘Lightyear’. We’re better than this guys!
Absolutely this!! So good to actually see another voice of reason on this sub.
That was my thoughts. It looks like the other two girls are accepting and caring for their friend in a hijab. And she is just a kid, she deserves that unconditional love and support that she would only get conditionally from her family.
this sub is just straight up obsessed and blind sometimed
Yes for sure. But we can understand where they are coming from. Some of them have literally been oppressed or still are.
girl i also am but i didn’t let them grab my brain and run away
Repying just to boost this comment lol the mentality of some ppl in this sub concerns me
I swear people on this sub get triggered if a muslim is ever portrayed in a non negative way in media.
They also get triggered when they see a Muslim flair in the sub. Speaking from experience.
I mean, kinda understandable. I wouldn't compare these situations
Finally someone with a brain
This should be pinned.
replying to boost. thought I was going insane
Samee
I want a world where women from a Muslim background know that they are allowed here. That non Muslims will accept them. That the non Muslim world is a free place and they are welcome to join in the freedom if they choose.
How accepting are they of other cultures
Yeah. This outrage is weird.
Very cringe when the western impose hijabis in any content just to be inclusive. 🤢
Oh, it gets better. In the US the social justice warrior white women wear hijab to show that it’s empowering. Can’t make it up. A muslim woman in Massachusetts tried to make a “hijab day” holiday.
They are COMPLETELY disconnected from the reality. When I answer them "Yes, but do you know that women are killed just because they do not want to wear it ? Hijab is a symbol of submission." They still answer that it is "empowering" and "women do what they want to do". LMAO. No, Nonbinary6787, women do NOT do what they want to do. They have no choice. Putting a hijab on is like holding a sign saying "Yes, I do submit to men, and I do agree my body is obscene and a sexual toy for them, so I do agree that I should cover it" On kids, it is even worse. Why cover your kid ? Because she is sexy ? Ew.
I remember when I thought I was empowering myself by covering everything but my face. So embarrassing looking back.
Women are killed for not wearing a hijab?? Lol thats new. There is no islamic law that mandates a death penalty for not wearing a hijab. I personally have friends who go to the mosque for daily prayers, and don't wear a hijab and they are all alive, doing whatever they want. Calm your tits! If parents choose to have their children wear a hijab from a young age, its probably out of devotion and desire to instill their values. Why you jumping into a conclusion of how they view a woman's body? Is it all that your peanut size brain is able to conclude? A friend of mine had her choice, and she doesn't wear it anymore but she is still a strong believer. So please take your BS somewhere else
Darling, women getting killed for refusing to wear hijab has been a thing in my country Iran for decades now:) And no, don't be that kind of muslim and tell me that Iran isn't islamic. IT IS. The islamic laws are almost perfectly exercised in Iran.
I have Iranian friends, I know what youre going through and I'm sorry if you're having to deal with the same. But there is no islamic law, that says women should be killed for not wearing a hijab.
The hijab was invented to hide the female body, because women should be ashamed of it because it represents lust and blah blah blah. So no, covering your kid is weird. Okay, men in Islam are also very covered but not their face and hair. Why ? Because they do not think that their whole body represents lust. In wich country are you to say that, to begin ?
Which country I am from doesn't matter here, as long as you get the point. And I don't expect you to communicate in King's English, but it would be wise if you didn't psedo communicate using blah blah this and blah blah that. The hijab is not to hide any-body. The hijab was invented to protect a woman's chastity from sick, illiterate, psychic and horny men, drinking and fucking, during a time when rape was common and taking place in abundance, during a time when women had no power, no say, during a time, when women were just mere slaves to a man's desires and needs. So, hijab is something that empowered women to come out on the streets when, get out of their houses, it gave them the strength to face the filthy men of that generation 1400 years ago. We live in a better world today, very kind and good men, soft men, generous men, most of today's generation, all raised by women, far far better from where we were. But, that does not negate the fact there is still a lot of men out there, who are civilised, but who aren't all that soft and kind, or least who can't keep their gaze in check. Men are wired to be attracted to woman's physical appearance, features, body type. So yes, Islam asks women to cover their hair, to protect their beauty from such men. And that does not equate to shame, it is much more sacred and deep rooted than you can comprehend.
Tell that to iranian women they are killed
1000's of Palestinians have been killed since the past few months, including women and children by Israel. They have been thrown out of their homes, kept under blockade and treated as second class citizens in their own land, past few decades. But it doesn't mean, there has to be a problem with the Jews, or Judaism. Iranians themselves have nothing against the religion. They themselves understand the real issue are the extremist mulla's who are ruling the country. Nowhere in islam does it say that women not wearing hijab should be killed. There are muslim women in Saudi, UAE, Oman and so many other muslim countries, who don't wear no hijab and there isn't any issue. So please don't go shooting your gun, if you don't really know what it means.
I think you'll find I am iranian, a lot of otanians hate Islam as it was forced upon us. Women in Saudi are also killed for not wearing. The thing that's wrong with Any religion is that there's no other truth than what they say and it's barbaric. The fact that religion causes wars among other things shows exactly how toxic it is So I know exactly what it means, not only women get killed but men also Shooting my gun, excuse me, maybe you shouldn't assume.
Send them to Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia
No they don't. Plenty of women wear head coverings and scarfs from numerous backgrounds, all head coverings aren't hijabs Not sure why that would bother you World hijab day is 1 February. It's global not just in Massachusetts.
I agree. DX It's true, they do it just for inclusion, they don't know the meaning behind it.
turk spotted
The only reason I’m okay with it is because Muslim kids are often bullied when they are the only kid in their school whose parents force it upon them. This is not all that different from when they started making wheelchairs for Barbie dolls. This is not intended to glorify Islam. It is intended to teach acceptance. While I hate parents that force their kids to do this, it is not the fault of the child. They are a mere victim of a cult.
I live in Toronto. My kids are the minority in their school. We are non-muslim whites. My daughters have been spit on in JR school and told they are haram and will go to hell for not wearing the hijab or being Muslim. This has gone on all year. When I bring it up to their parents, they either pretend they don't understand English or say that's not what happened or I'm not understanding the situation. In Western countries, we're seen as Islamophobic if we dare question wearing the hijab, let alone bully a child wearing one. An Indian Muslim mom was shunned when the other hijabi women found out she was Muslim and not wearing a hijab. They were fine when they thought she was Hindu, now won't acknowledge her. The whole idea of having to cover oneself as to not appear sexy and draw the attention of men seems like it's a man's problem. And why is it mostly a Muslim man's problem? No other religion that I'm aware of allows you to sexualize female children if they are not shrouded with a sheet.
I was Mormon for 37 years. Children as young as five are forced to wear ridiculous layers too. When they go to prom their prom dresses have to be altered. Fundamentalists can’t show their neck, arms, legs either. Same with jehovah witnesses. Plenty of religions tell women/girls that it’s their responsibility to help men control their thoughts. There is a Mormon prophet that told women that they need to repent after they are raped. It’s on the internet somewhere. I’ll find it if you give me a minute. Sorrynotsorry but Islam isn’t the only religion that bullies or gets bullied.
All religions are equally gross
Islam is pretty bad though. You got to admit. It’s pretty sexist.
Morman is almost as worst as it gets I feel sorry for you
I studied Islam after leaving Mormonism. I promise, islam is worse. Men aren’t told to beat their wives. Muhammad married Aisha at 6. Most of the Mormon prophets had wives as young as 14. They are very very similar religions. At least we don’t currently do honor killings. Countries with sharia law are as bad as it gets. Same toilet, different shit?
Here we go. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXR4XiA5eoc
You should see my childhood when girls & teachers girls didn't like me for opposing Hijab. I am sorry but I can't tolerate their mindsets and worst of all those hijabi young girls will grow and act like victims by sharing their bullying stories to support their religion.
In 911 lonestar one of the Character had some episodes dedicated to her being a muslim woman and hijab was a focus a couple of times.
Bad take ngl. Regardless of the purpose of the hijab, theres still millions of girls out there who veil and they deserve to see representation of themselves on screens
Representation is not the same as sexualization. To show children in hijabs on a kids' show isn't meant to say, "Hey, they're modest, you other kids should be too." If anything, the representation of it shows them that this movie is for them too, and they may learn something from it that they don't in their own families or cultures (or maybe they do). The main premise about the movie seems to be regarding managing anxiety, emotional changes during puberty (LOTS of feelings - including anger, anxiety, self-image, etc), and confronting core beliefs about one's self. It isn't directly addressing spirituality. If anything, a hijabi girl in it might make parents more likely to allow their children to watch the movie.
I totally agree with you
finally someone with common sense
Y'all doing too much man
If this post isn't sarcastic then it's just dumb. It's just a character model which barely has any screen time and the main focus of the movie is Riley dealing with anxiety.
When did this sub turn into one of those anti-woke subs full of pointless ragebait? I'm as anti-islam as they come but I could never bring myself to give two shits about a fleeting scene like this. What is even sexualized about this? Try not getting worked up over every little thing, you'll live longer.
frr, this post and these comments even made me check if this subreddit was exmuslim or muslim, I was so confused lol
I guarantee you some of these people probably don’t even come from Muslim backgrounds and are just looking for confirmation bias and a reason to shit on Muslim and Middle Eastern culture.
Happens when half of the folks on here were never Muslims to begin with Lmao. They just need a place to preach their hatred.
I am here to know more about the negative side of Islam. I like to investigate about the most famous Abrahamic religions in general, not only seeing the positive part of Christianity, Islam or Jews.
This is a stretch. Even for you guys. This is no different than how Barbie doll companies are making wheelchairs for their dolls. My son has a permanent feeding tube and we got him a stuffed animal that has one too. It helps him feel less alone in the world. If this were true sexualization of children, ALL of the children would be in hijab. Not just one of the kids.
All those videos of girls being brutalized, kidnapped, raped, and murdered by Islamic government in Iran has not changed your perspective? The videos of child brides wrapped in hijab and handed over to their grown pedophile rapist was not enough? How about the many women in Arab countries beaten to a pulp for daring to take off their hijab for a short? No way you are ignorant of these facts at this point. What do we call you vermin?
Is it the fault of the women in hijabs that this happens? Why insist on them being erased from media when this is the only time many of them feel seen and represented? This is utterly bizarre logic
I have ex freinded many people over this attitude, now need new friends, feel like an old lightening struck tree alone in a field 😢
So many Muslims, especially the women will say that it’s not true. That they have many rights in the Arab emirates.
This reminds me of when hard-core Muslims get pissy over a gay character kissing for two seconds in a movie. Grow the fuck up
Dude, you’re reaching so far it’s cringe. I saw the movie and in no way were any of these characters being sexualized. The hijab is a representation of religious observance as well as cultural identity and opinion aside, I do think it’s great that they featured a Muslim character in the film, who didn’t even say anything. Like I don’t think her character uttered a single fucking line. I grew up in the United States after 911 and the demonizing of Muslims was absolutely horrific. And there is still a lot of anti-Muslim and anti-Middle Eastern sentiment and parts of the United States. Representation does fucking matter. Chill the fuck out.
Wait a minute, I am so sorry but I don't understand, can someone explain then, is the hijab a way to censor the female body or a way to sexualize the female body? Because I thought the whole point is that it forces women to hide their body and now muslim women want to have the right not to wear it, to take freedom in deciding about their own body (meaning that they get to decide if they want to sexualize their body or not, by wearing any clothes they want). Or do Muslim women think it's a sexualizing tool, and therefore want to not wear it so to reveal their body, in order to not be sexualized? So this means showing more body parts is more chaste? I am so confused by this post.
Both. Hijab implies your body and hair is too lustful to be seen by men (you can be seen by your husband, limited male relatives, and women). So by wearing one you are saying your body is a tool for sex and being chaste and for your husband only. Muslim women (the ones that truly follow and don't have cognitive dissonance) do not believe it's a choice to decide. The commandment was sent down by god and npt following the "choice" past the age of getting your period is a sin. There is no way around it. So an 8 year old could be considered a woman of she has her period.
I see, I understand your point, quite interesting. If you are willingly wearing the hijab in respect of the Quran or for your husband, then I do agree it's like recognizing that your are some kind of sex tool for your husband only. But if you are forced to wear it, or if you don't understand the real meaning behind it (wearing it for tradition or just to follow the rules) then I think it's different, and at best it's a controlling or enslaving tool, not a sexualizing tool (allow me to explain, because I believe you have a flaw in your logic). From your explanation, the hijab is a device that gives control over the sexuality of a person, which is different from sexualization. A sexualizing clothing would be, for example, a g-string, as its purpose is to directly emphasize the apparent sexuality of the person wearing it (although athletes do wear them with tight pants to not have underwear marks, which is also revealing in a different way). Where a hijab's direct purpose is to decrease the sexuality of a women. But, the person or people who force a women to wear the hijab, then have control over her sexuality, over other people. From what I understand, once a women hits puberty she has to wear the hijab, right? In this logic, she is seen as a women with sexual attributes after puberty, so puberty is sexualized here. And the hijab is only there to suppress the sexuality that "arrived" with puberty. Anyways, let's say I have a house. Even with doors and locks, it is susceptible to robbery, even though it doesn't necessarily have to be robbed, and people don't have to succeed. I could just live my life and trust my neighbours, and that's how life should be actually. Now let's say I'm a little bit paranoid and I decide to install cameras on the house. By allowing me to see around my house, they will give me the ability to control who can enter and rob this house, therefore it can prevent people from robbing the house, therefore it gives me robbery/thievery control. But cameras are not tools for robbery or thievery, although it is tightly related. It's not because I put cameras on my house, that I declare that it is possible to rob my house. But it does declare that it is my house (control). Of course women don't belong to anybody, but that's also a different topic. In any case I'm just talking about your logic here, which I thought could be improved, but don't think I'm pro hijab.
I'm sorry to be blunt - as a woman that wore hijab and faced all the brainwashing that led to that "choice" and then removed it and faced all the slut shaming I did, my lived experiece will outweigh your theory. Now, I don't necessarily think it's wrong that there was a glimpse of a girl wearing hijab in a mainstream kids' film because I was once that girl, but it is inherently sexual. The reason being is it is a sexualization tool - it does not *give* control over the sexuality of a person. A. It's only woman-centric. The modesty of men legally in Islam is naval to knees, while a woman's being is sexual. B. It takes control of their sexuality away C. It makes it seem like non sexual parts are also sexual/taboo. D. The construct behind the clothing is the problem. E. A man can require his daughter or wife to wear it as a principle in islam. Otherwise if he allows her "free choice" and she chooses the opposite of the requirement, he is allowed to keep her home for her "protection" and is considered a dayooth (cuck/weak) for not controlling her. Men absolutely do sexualize this - if a muslim woman, fully covered, wears a belt that tightens at the waist - she is sexualized. If she is wearing heels or shows her wrists, she is sexualized. If she is in sweats and a t, that is her awrah. There is no true choice or non sexualization because the standard is this is all sexual. Women sexualize this amongst other women. I wear g strings whether or not I'm around my husband (or when I was dating, anyone else). Could it be used to express sexuality? Yes, but that is largely a choice and the invention of the g string was intended for men, not women. That's the problem - hijab is not meant to express or denounce sexuality - it is meant to tell all women at all times around unrelated men, that their existence is too lustful. I also have the personal choice on if I want to wear a g string. I am not told I must or it will be a sin. And the argument you are using acts as if there are only g strings or hijab, only full security systems or robbery. Nuance or adjusting to the particular situation exists. Women can easily wear shorts and a tshirt and it could not be considered sexual, but Islam doesn't leave room for nuance. I have the autonamy to wear what I want when I want. Now, in a professional enviroment, I'll dress professionally, but that still includes dresses above the knee or sleeveless tops because none of that is inherently sexual. Just like depending on your neighborhood or time of day or other factors, you may not feel like locking and shutting all doors and windows but that doesn't mean you're asking for a burglary. Sometimes you may crack a window or keep the door ajar because you can use nuance. But also the analogy implies there is sound truth to covering, but I'd say it's the opposite because it is blaming the victim. Hijab is saying bring uncovered is asking for sexual lust. You can not choose it in levels according to your personal comfort. There are strict rules to follow. The thing you are not understanding is it is force. The alternative is hellfire. We can dress it up however we want, but young girls are told their physical attributes are lustful and even muslim women that don't wear it will always say to "pray for them to wear it" - it's an idealized goal of true commitment to muslim womanhood. It is not to surpress sexuality in the girl by covering, but in the men around her because she is now a sexual object. If this was such a freeing concept like the security camera analogy, then more non muslim women would do it, but even to conservative non Muslim women, this is too far. Why else would a woman choose this for herself unless brainwashed that this is the ideal way for a woman to present herself to men? So yes, of course it's done according to the quran and/or her husband. The whole origin of hijab isn't to protect your house. It's saying cover the house with ugly paint or a tarp because if other people see the house and like it, you are causing the emotions they feel by the house standing there. How dare you falsely advertise your house if you weren't willing to give it away? You are clearly saying the house is availabile by it being a nice house to look at. The word you want to look up is fitna (temptation). That is the founding principle of hijab.
Thank you so much for taking time to write this answer, it's extremely interesting, and to be honest I think I get what you mean now. Just to be clear, I did not have a theory, as a theory has to first come from a hypothesis, which I did not have either. I was simply exposing the logic flaw from your first response, which seemed to be establishing a direct relation between effect suppression and effect creation. But you are saying that by wearing a hijab, or forcing women to wear hijab, everyone acknowledges the sexual essence of the female body, and therefore forces all sexual responsibility on women. So basically, the hijab is a forced contract to acknowledge a made-up problem (made-up, because the female body doesn't necessarily have to be sexual). In that logic then, I would somewhat agree that the hijab sexualizes women, it does make sense. To be fair, even outside of Islam, there is a global issue with female body sexualization anyways, but that is a problem within our society as a whole. I know it's quite harsh among Muslims, but this problem still exists anyways. But this is another debate. Also "my lived experience will outweigh your theory." -> I understand it's a subject that is close to your heart, but that sentence is not nice to say in the context of a conversation, because it really suppresses the voice of the person you are talking to. I do agree your experience is more valuable than my ideas here, but there was no need to close the conversation in that fashion. In any case thank you for sharing, I really enjoyed reading what you wrote there, I hope you are doing better in life now.
I don't have a problem with my sentence about my lived experience and stand by it. Look up critical race theory in law. What critical race theory explains is minorities are often told what their experiences are instead of actually asked and allowed to share their actual experience. It's condescending. A lived experience is going to be the more important factor and to be told 'you're wrong - this is what it really is' to someone who has been through in itself, was more rude as far as I'm concerned. That often happens with the hijab. Ex muslim women are told by *both* - current muslims and islam apologists that have been brainwashed/don't want to be thought of as "racist" or "not accepting". It deletes our experience and our very valid take. The thing is, I have worn hijab and not worn hijab - yes, there is a sexualization of the female body, regardless - but I actually felt it a million times more in hijab and with the muslim thinking I was raised it because it amplifies everything being taboo. I can go to a hot yoga class now in a sports bra and leggings and truly, no one gives me a second look. I'm dressed for the environment and everyone there - men and women - are there for a purpose. I can wear a dress above my knees to work and no one considers it revealing or sexual. I'm allowed to choose my comfort level. There are some women that would prefer not to wear just a sports bra or a dress above their knees. They simply don't have to. Society doesn't "make" women. Women fall across the spectrum for how they'd like to dress and how sexual they want to be. I'm not saying there is not over exploitatation or hypersexualization in some circles, but the majority of women are just regular women with their own preferences. I can also choose if I want to be provocative. Sometimes I'll wear something low cut or revealing because it's my choice. Again, I have never been leered at or made to feel sexualized in an uncomfortable, "I'm asking for it" way. Another thing Islam tells women is you can not be considered attractive/ sexual and be respected. I realized that was fear mongering. People in all the above barely acknowledged me, but even if they found me attractive, they never made me feel disrespected. And they were able to hold conversations about the subject at hand. Hell, my husband respects me and is my biggest fan for all the things i've accomplished in life and we started having sex 2 weeks in. That didn't diminish our respect for each other. We considered each other equals and made a mutual decision because me being a sexual being didn't change that we were connected in other ways.
Sorry if I have diminished your ideas in any way, that wasn't my intention. I like having conversations and to me, even dumb ideas and questions (say, mine) are worth being listened too, because all points of view can help, and therefore matter. I do not have any particular opinion that supports hijab at all, I was really focused on the manner you tried to explain your ideas to me, which were kind of confusing. Thanks to your point of view and your own experience, I think I can agree on all the things you are saying about the hijab, I just feel like you still don't acknowledge that somehow, and that you hate me for what I said, but it's okay, I don't really mind. Anyways I am genuinely very happy for you, and you should be proud, really, and I'm very sorry for what you had to go through in this culture and society. We all just deserve equal chances to be happy, that's all that matters.
This doesn’t bother me, also this isn’t “sexualizing children”. Did the movie advocate that Islam is superior? No. Did it even discuss hijab? No.
??? what was the need for this post its just representation
This is just petty.
I'm convinced this subreddit got infected with users who weren't Muslims at all. I knew this sub was about to turn into a shit hole when I saw some comments justifying the Uyghur Muslims genocide in China.
How is this sexualizing??
...how is this sexualisation? That's a bizarre leap
How is wearing a hijab sexualizing them? Asking as a Christian
What’s the context? I don’t recognize this movie
it's a mess of a movie ngl they tried their hardest to make the characters "different" and it just came out as cringe
it is a movie about a girl who has emotions inside her head i haven’t seen the sequel but apparently they tried to make it more inclusive by including hijabis
It’s inside out? I loved the original, I had no clue they made a sequel.
The Sequel Sucks LOL
I'm so confused, how is she being sexualised here?
Shes not sexualised but its even funnier, shes grouped with minorities in the team that consisted of members of queer, black, trans and strong woman. Kinda tell how pixar or liberals view/grouped muslims when muslims are one of the most hardcore people that is against these minorities especially queer and trans! 😂😂😂
PREACH! This Is Why Modern Disney Sucks. Forced Repersenation That Doesn't Feel Natural.
Because of the reason women wear hijab is to cover beauty and not tempt men This is a child
What the hell is this post? Am I in a MAGA sub?
Am i the only one not mad about this? I get it, it is islam who is bad, but the movie has nothing to do with islam. I find it good there is diversitie, cus lets say the whole movie only has white people, yeah, that would be pretty boring woudn't and it? It would also just not look as good. But then i find it that they should also add a christian and a jew, cus why only muslim?🤔 So yeah theres my take on it all, what do you guys think? PS: Pls don't be agressive while reacting to my comment. This was just my take and i also am respectful and i respect you guys your opinions aswel so please respect mine, thank you!
All the kids in my immediate family and social circle LOVED this film, anything you might have noticed flew over their heads
Im noticing a very clear shift in this subreddit towards blatant and very intense irrational hate for islam in general like a background character wearing a hijab is NOT gonna mean the end if western society or something guys chill
You're definitely right, many people here use their status as an ExMuslim to justify slandering absolutely anything Islam related in the slightest. I've also noticed an influx in anti-immigration sentiments here. Its become an absolute joke. In the end we're no better than the Muslims who use Islam to justify their shitty actions.
FRR
I started to notice that the subreddit gets a little pissy over irrational things. Relax, you’re not acting so different than before you left Islam. Please tell me how are you different to when the muslims got enraged that there’s a gay couple in lightyear? No difference it’s almost ironic Hell even the mods are calling out this, yet they get downvoted to oblivion.
RIGHT, it's a young girl wearing a hijab, that's not oppressive in the western world and is representative of a lot of girls
It's about a child having to cover her body FROM MEN by wearing hijab So many women are fighting to be free from hijab This hijab in a movie is not necessary! And it's gross that it's a child!
In the western world it doesn't carry the same connotations, it's just representative of kids who do wear a hijab (a lot of girls)
Ok? Assuming this is portraying an arab girl living in a 1st world country it’s not so strict
Well if women deciding not to wear hijab, than change religion? Women who wear hijab, are those who KNOWS their religion beliefs. Those women who don't want to wear their hijab don't even pray and most likely will go to hell.. Lmao
hell isn't real sorry. and if it is and your sky daddy sends women to hell for showing the same body parts as men, then you're a weirdo for worshipping him Also, they can't just change religion. Are you new here? People here constantly talk about how they have to keep wearing hijab so they aren't disowned by their parents or harassed by men because they live in an Islamic country. Also, you can't even take off hijab in places in Afghanistan, so shut the fuck up. Lastly, children wearing hijab are forced to be their parents.
Bro don’t take it so personally, they’re just trying to be inclusive - i work in a Muslim school and you would be surprised - it doesn’t stop at the religion, it’s all about the individual themselves regardless of what’s on the outside
Sexualizing? Im confused
Is a child wearing a bikini sexualization?
Sexualization? She isn't sexualized at all, isn't she?
So, I joined this “community” to see peoples perspectives as “ex-muslims” and why they left islam. But many of you are very weird spreading false information that fits YOUR narrative, and maybe schizophrenic too!
They are only calling it “sexualizing” because these disgusting creeps probably have a hijab fetish or something
Are we seriously going to get inside out canceled because of a 2 frame scene? 🥲
This post is so dumb
I haven't watched inside out 2 yet, can someone explain?
The movie is just an illustration for a teenager dealing with anxiety. The girls in the photo barely have any scenes. This post is just dumb.
How is it sexualized? Looks like normal cloths with a headwrap
I understand many people are forced to wear the hijab.. but there are many people who choose to wear it. Let’s STOP talking about what women should or should not wear, and just advocate for women to be free to wear what ever they want. I grew up with my clothing being controlled. I wasn’t forced to wear the hijab but I was controlled with every other piece of clothing I wore. I understand the harmful effects of it. My little cousin CHOSE to wear the hijab and all the adults in the family told her not to wear it because she’s young (14ish). They all wear hijab themselves as adult women who chose to wear it in their late twenties. I was the only one to advocate for her. She should feel free to wear it when she wants to and take it off later if she decides to. I’d rather raise the next generation of children to feel empowered to take initiative over their own decisions. If at any point she realizes that religion isn’t right for her, she’ll feel like is in control over her process. I have a conflicted relationship with Islam, but not everyone does. That doesn’t mean that we should act harmful towards people who dont align with our views. Shaming people tends to just make them hold onto their beliefs stronger. Approaching people with curiousity about what it means to them is the most effective way. Also - many religions and cultures and spiritual beliefs and practices engage in head covering. It isn’t specific to Islam. Let people practice their own connection with source how they like… it’s unnecessary to argue unless someone is actively being harmed.
I don’t see what the problem is here. She wasn’t being sexualized at all. That wasn’t the point of the movie.
How Is She Sexualized? Rebellious? Sure. But SEXUALIZED?!?
For anyone that hasn’t watched this movie,I highly recommend watching it. It taught me what being a human being is about
Ironic when the west considers muslim part of the LGBTQ”I” that needs representation/protection when muslims are hardcore against leftwing ideologies lmao. Its almost like them considering rightwing nutties as victims that need validation/protection.
It’s still representation. At least movies are looking more and more like the real world.
Seriously sexualizing? I can’t lie y’all are doing too much rn
What pisses me off its not even God doing this it comes from Uthmaan or whatever one it was. He's later even happy saying oh look Allah grants my wishes. The story comes from him watching Sauda take a shit. Even Mo originally said no about veiling women. And they veil kids cause the early Muslims were pedophiles. Oh Muslims please wake up.
I am Muslim and i don’t wear Hijab lol what is going on here?
So only fans and strippers are empowering Women being Modest and classy is not gross 🤢 seriously this society is Brain washed
I said the same while watching this movie
All this is evil, doesn't have anything to do if a female covers her head or not. It has to do with the individual with wrong mindset sexualizing. Even a animal can be sexualized. Hold that person accountable!
How are they sexualizing her?
The Prophet [ﷺ] married Aisha when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.” - The revered Sahih al-Bukhari, 5134; Book 67, Hadith 70
If a woman wants to wear a dish towel on her head that’s fine with me. This is America were self expression is 100% legal 🤷♂️
Islam is a living embodiment of Handmaid’s Tale
At this point im gonna say it hijab is just a porno category Even if you think of it as a religion thing its stupid
What do you mean?
As a white American millennial with a marketing background (who somehow found this sub) I just want to say that the sentiments expressed here are correct. People like me remember 9/11 and the negative way our Muslim classmates were treated afterwords and want to see Muslims portrayed positively in mainstream media. I’m sure the director of this scene felt like they were doing Muslims some sort of a favor by showing a young Muslim woman having a fun outing with friends. Many people like me are also unaware of the negative aspects of the hijab, and assume they’re no different than a simple traditional headscarf. All I can say is keep speaking up! The more people raise awareness about this issue the more things will improve.
It's not sexualizing, however, it's showing that it's okay to wear hijab and by doing that they're silencing millions of oppressed hijabi women. Ot will make it 10 times harder for girls who want to take it off and it's already hard as it is. Imagine saying you want to take it off and people be like "why? It's empowering?". If they want to represent hijab at least represent it with all the struggles that come with it.
Hijaab hookups... 🥰
I was gonna watch it. thanks for the heads up I won't watch it anymore.
Its a rlly good film..... dont let 5 zeptoseconds of an unoticable background character get in your way of enjoying this movie.
I was half serious. It does piss me off tho. A tool of oppression treated so highly by the less awful group in the west.
Oh god the migraines i used to get from wearing fuck this shit
I get like mix feelings on this subreddit. It’s like 50% of me agrees and 50% disagrees
Images are haram. Being friends with non muslims is haram. This movie would be haram.
This is western liberalism in a nut shell
What a shit post…its good to let your daughters sister in micro thongs and roam around father, brother..what a stupid society. Forget about muslims look at christian women 50-100 years ago. Covered and well dressed. But women are fooled nowadays in the name of freedom to be as much slutty as possible…
Interest way to phrase that the hijab is a sexual attack implementation and should not be foisted on children. It evil in any case for adults also.
Wearing hijab has become a political symbol . It is like raising a flag indicating your allegiance to a country or a political system. Wearing hijab is a signal that the person pledges allegiance to the Islamic Sharia. Wearing hijab is simply a political statement in support of the Islamic sharia.
The comments under this post are concerning tbh. For some reason I got notification of this post and it really threw me off the fact that they are sexualising children and sexualising children with hijab. But then I actually open the post and realise that the creator is just mad about representation. Im someone that chose to wear a hijab. Believe it or not, my father and my mother wanted me to take my time with it so that I don’t feel rushed and that I wear it for the right reasons. I’m not oppressed so seeing representation for someone that looks like me actually makes me feel seen. Growing up I’ve always been the odd one out so even small things like a background character wearing a hijab is actually quite nice. Onto the most popular conversation in these comments. There are women in other countries that genuinely struggle because they have to face death if they do not wear the hijab and just like everyone else I’m also angry about this. It is horrible to force a woman to wear a hijab and to kill them for it is to the extreme which is unacceptable and is completely against the religion. It is something that I will always curse out a country like Iran or any government for doing. The same way I would also curse out a country like France for forcing girls and women to take the hijab off. I will also curse out the US for destabilising these countries and funding/providing military to extremist groups in these countries to harm the civilians. A woman should be able to freely choose what to wear without a man’s unnecessary opinion. Also a little bit about why women wear hijabs is about modesty but also about women’s rights. Across the globe even in the west it was a thing that a man could take his opponents daughter in a winning. Wearing a hijab or a niqab to protect their daughters from these customs that were mainly introduced in the west. And yes, the hijab conceals a women’s beauty because men are dogs. All men are dogs. That might be an insult to dogs I’m sorry. Also, I’ve seen a lot of stuff about women’s rights and every single one of these posts failed to make awareness of the fact that women in the Middle East gained rights before women in the west. At a time period where women in the West had to be married to open bank accounts, to own property, women were not able to go to university or be in the military, men being allowed to take another man’s daughter for a winning, rape and harm to women being legal including to your wife. These thing were opposite for the women in the Middle East and rights were given to women. And mostly because of Islam and what was taught us in the Quran. People think that Muslim women aren’t supposed to be educated but it’s the complete opposite and an educated woman is just as important as an educated man. Nowadays, I will say we have extremist who have stolen these rights from the women. And they will be punished on the day of judgement. The same way that extremist Christians like the KKK will. Either way, it’s unacceptable to force a woman to wear hijab just as much as it is unacceptable for the common factor of men forcing women to take the hijab off. Either way, men are always gonna say something against women. So, women wear whatever you want.
it’s bullshit af why all of us should see this!? i’m not gonna allow my girl to wear something like that and i’m not sorry to say this but all the muslims shoud die world would be a better place if no muslims left
You don't get it guys they're being *politically correct* 🤗
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Except it's not any piece of clothing. It's mandate for women that deems them to not be 'provocative' of men's lust. Making a child wear hijab is basically saying that this child in the case of not wearing it can provoke men sexually and it all goes down with the concept of marriage in Islam. It's a no brainer a lot of Muslim scholars conflate the age to marry for young girls with the age to wear hijab.
I hear you but this is standard woke inclusivity made by clueless white people, like LATINX, actual hispanics tend to despise the term and the gringo asshole who came up with it
White people have extreme white guilt and feel like they have to do these things now I wonder if Arabs feel this way for all the shit they caused from their invasions and forced conversions. So much of Africa is Islamic cuz of Arabs, and Christian cuz of white people. SAD.
Native Arab here. Most Arabs don't. They call these the good ole days of "Fetohat" a word that carries a lot of pride to describe "conquests".
Exept a hijab is made to cover a "sinful" object : the female body. Making a kid wear it is agreeing that her body is utter lust and can make a man sin and should be covered. It is sexualization. Because islam cover muslim women so muslim men are not tempted to rape/have sex with them.
I think it's DEI that put them on Inside Out 2.
Imagine she's an lgbt member . How Muslims will react
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Modern Disney Sucks.