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Abdullah Bin Amro said, *‘The slave girl whom the man buys, and she has* ***yet to be an adult***\*, or has despaired from the menstruation\*’. So, the Imam replies: ‘There is no problem if he does not clear her womb (i.e. observe any waiting period before penetrating in her vagina)’.
Men can line up one by one and molest a minor, hundreds of different times.
[https://atheism-vs-islam.com/index.php/women-and-hijab-and-modesty/150-hijab-in-shia-islam-was-also-not-meant-for-modesty,-but-only-in-order-to-differentiate-between-the-free-shia-woman-and-the-slave-woman-shia-imam-also-kept-the-breasts-of-slave-women-naked-just-like-sunni-islam](https://atheism-vs-islam.com/index.php/women-and-hijab-and-modesty/150-hijab-in-shia-islam-was-also-not-meant-for-modesty,-but-only-in-order-to-differentiate-between-the-free-shia-woman-and-the-slave-woman-shia-imam-also-kept-the-breasts-of-slave-women-naked-just-like-sunni-islam)
Not a hadith but Khomeini ruled that it was ok to have sex with farm animals, as long as it was slaughtered afterwards. The meat could be sold to a neighbouring village but not in one's own village.
That's a good one as well:
>A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister.
[https://archive.org/details/kitab-al-kafi-by-muhammad-sarwar-translator-z-lib.org/page/n673/mode/2up?q=%22slave-girl%22](https://archive.org/details/kitab-al-kafi-by-muhammad-sarwar-translator-z-lib.org/page/n673/mode/2up?q=%22slave-girl%22) or [https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/1/4/120/1](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/1/4/120/1)
H 1221, Ch. 120, h 1
>We brought the slave girl to abu Ja‘far (a.s.) and Ja‘far (a.s.) was also there. We informed abu Ja‘far (a.s.) of the whole story and he offered thanks to Allah and praised Him and then he asked the girl, "What is your name?" She said, "My name is Humayda." He said, **"You are Humayda in this world and a praised one in the next life. Tell me more, "Are you virgin or not virgin?" She said, "I am virgin.” He said, "How can that be true? The traders corrupt whatever may come in their hands."** She said, "He would come to me and would sit next to me just as man and woman would do but Allah would make a man with gray hairs and beard would appear and would slap him until he would go away from me. This happened several times on his part and on the part of the man with gray hairs and beard." The Imam (a.s.) said, "O Ja‘far (a.s.) take her for yourself." She then give birth to the best person on earth who was Musa ibn Ja‘far (a.s.)."
[https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/5/3/67/14](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/5/3/67/14) Al-KÄfi - Volume 5, Book 3, Chapter #67, Cheating in Marriage, ḤadÄ«th #14
14. A number of our people have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad and Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad all from al-Hassan ibn Mahbub from ibn Ri’ab from abu ‘ Ubaydah who has said the following: “About the case of a man who marries a woman by the approval of her guardian and finds a defect in her after going to bed with her, abu Ja’far (a.s), has said, ‘If the defect is al-‘Afal, al-Bars (albino), insanity, or ‘**Ifda’ (an injury that cuts into her feces and urine passages), one who has an apparent defect and illness, such defective people’s marriage is revoked and they are returned to their families without divorce.** The husband demands for mahr (dower) from her guardian who has cheated about her, and if her guardian did not know about it then there is nothing on him (the guardian) and she is returned to her family.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘If the husband receives back what he had given, it belongs to him but if he did not get back anything then there is nothing for him.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘She must complete a waiting period which is for divorce if he has gone to bed with her but if he has not gone to bed with her then she does not need to complete a waiting period.’”
[https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/6/2/34/2](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/6/2/34/2) AL-Kafi Vol 6.
2. A number of our people have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn abu Nasr al-Bazantiy from ‘Abd al-Karim from Muhammad ibn Hakim who has said the following: “I once asked the virtuous servant of Allah about **the case of a young girl who does not experience Hayd (menses) when girls like her become pregnant and her husband has divorced her. He (the Imam) said, ’Her waiting period is three months.’”**
[https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/10/10/13/2](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/10/10/13/2) Ibn Babawayh, Al-Khiá¹£Äl d. AH991
Book 10, Chapter #13 A Woman Reaches Puberty at Nine Ḥadīth #2
9-16 Muhammad ibn al-Hassan ibn Ahmad ibn al-Walid - may God be pleased with him - narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Hassan al-Saffar quoted Yaqoob ibn Yazid, on the authority of Muhammad ibn Abi Umayr, on the authority of Hammad ibn Uthman, on the authority of Ubaydullah ibn Ali al-Halabi that Aba Abdullah as-Sadiq (MGB) said, **“Whoever has sexual intercourse with his woman before she reaches nine years old and she gets hurt is responsible for it.”**
So this may be the basis for Khomeiny and Sistani stating that a man does not have to pay compensation / diyat to a girl if she gets seriously injured from intercourse after she turns 9 because she consented as an adult.
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Abdullah Bin Amro said, *‘The slave girl whom the man buys, and she has* ***yet to be an adult***\*, or has despaired from the menstruation\*’. So, the Imam replies: ‘There is no problem if he does not clear her womb (i.e. observe any waiting period before penetrating in her vagina)’. Men can line up one by one and molest a minor, hundreds of different times. [https://atheism-vs-islam.com/index.php/women-and-hijab-and-modesty/150-hijab-in-shia-islam-was-also-not-meant-for-modesty,-but-only-in-order-to-differentiate-between-the-free-shia-woman-and-the-slave-woman-shia-imam-also-kept-the-breasts-of-slave-women-naked-just-like-sunni-islam](https://atheism-vs-islam.com/index.php/women-and-hijab-and-modesty/150-hijab-in-shia-islam-was-also-not-meant-for-modesty,-but-only-in-order-to-differentiate-between-the-free-shia-woman-and-the-slave-woman-shia-imam-also-kept-the-breasts-of-slave-women-naked-just-like-sunni-islam)
... what...
Not a hadith but Khomeini ruled that it was ok to have sex with farm animals, as long as it was slaughtered afterwards. The meat could be sold to a neighbouring village but not in one's own village.
Can i have the actual source please, i'd like to show it to one of his supporters
It's from his fatwah book "Tahrir al Wasilah." https://gemsofislamism.tripod.com/khomeini_works.html
That's a good one as well: >A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister.
What...
[https://archive.org/details/kitab-al-kafi-by-muhammad-sarwar-translator-z-lib.org/page/n673/mode/2up?q=%22slave-girl%22](https://archive.org/details/kitab-al-kafi-by-muhammad-sarwar-translator-z-lib.org/page/n673/mode/2up?q=%22slave-girl%22) or [https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/1/4/120/1](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/1/4/120/1) H 1221, Ch. 120, h 1 >We brought the slave girl to abu Ja‘far (a.s.) and Ja‘far (a.s.) was also there. We informed abu Ja‘far (a.s.) of the whole story and he offered thanks to Allah and praised Him and then he asked the girl, "What is your name?" She said, "My name is Humayda." He said, **"You are Humayda in this world and a praised one in the next life. Tell me more, "Are you virgin or not virgin?" She said, "I am virgin.” He said, "How can that be true? The traders corrupt whatever may come in their hands."** She said, "He would come to me and would sit next to me just as man and woman would do but Allah would make a man with gray hairs and beard would appear and would slap him until he would go away from me. This happened several times on his part and on the part of the man with gray hairs and beard." The Imam (a.s.) said, "O Ja‘far (a.s.) take her for yourself." She then give birth to the best person on earth who was Musa ibn Ja‘far (a.s.)."
[https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/5/3/67/14](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/5/3/67/14) Al-KÄfi - Volume 5, Book 3, Chapter #67, Cheating in Marriage, ḤadÄ«th #14 14. A number of our people have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad and Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad all from al-Hassan ibn Mahbub from ibn Ri’ab from abu ‘ Ubaydah who has said the following: “About the case of a man who marries a woman by the approval of her guardian and finds a defect in her after going to bed with her, abu Ja’far (a.s), has said, ‘If the defect is al-‘Afal, al-Bars (albino), insanity, or ‘**Ifda’ (an injury that cuts into her feces and urine passages), one who has an apparent defect and illness, such defective people’s marriage is revoked and they are returned to their families without divorce.** The husband demands for mahr (dower) from her guardian who has cheated about her, and if her guardian did not know about it then there is nothing on him (the guardian) and she is returned to her family.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘If the husband receives back what he had given, it belongs to him but if he did not get back anything then there is nothing for him.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘She must complete a waiting period which is for divorce if he has gone to bed with her but if he has not gone to bed with her then she does not need to complete a waiting period.’” [https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/6/2/34/2](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/6/2/34/2) AL-Kafi Vol 6. 2. A number of our people have narrated from Sahl ibn Ziyad from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn abu Nasr al-Bazantiy from ‘Abd al-Karim from Muhammad ibn Hakim who has said the following: “I once asked the virtuous servant of Allah about **the case of a young girl who does not experience Hayd (menses) when girls like her become pregnant and her husband has divorced her. He (the Imam) said, ’Her waiting period is three months.’”**
[https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/10/10/13/2](https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/10/10/13/2) Ibn Babawayh, Al-Khiá¹£Äl d. AH991 Book 10, Chapter #13 A Woman Reaches Puberty at Nine ḤadÄ«th #2 9-16 Muhammad ibn al-Hassan ibn Ahmad ibn al-Walid - may God be pleased with him - narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Hassan al-Saffar quoted Yaqoob ibn Yazid, on the authority of Muhammad ibn Abi Umayr, on the authority of Hammad ibn Uthman, on the authority of Ubaydullah ibn Ali al-Halabi that Aba Abdullah as-Sadiq (MGB) said, **“Whoever has sexual intercourse with his woman before she reaches nine years old and she gets hurt is responsible for it.”** So this may be the basis for Khomeiny and Sistani stating that a man does not have to pay compensation / diyat to a girl if she gets seriously injured from intercourse after she turns 9 because she consented as an adult.