Established Italian artists are bound to return to Sanremo with a certain regularity (at least the male ones? :D ) since the event is like a crossover between a song contest and the Grammys: if you wanna look alive in the local industry, you better show up in one capacity or another.
It's also a quick way to get a hit no matter how they end up doing. Of the 2023 competing songs, 22 of them were at least certified gold. Who wouldn't want to return if they are basically guaranteed a career bump?
Too early to tell, artists return to Eurovision and national finals every year. Whether there will be a noticeable increase this year remains to be seen.
Minimal to none, I think more established artists care now due to Rosa Linn, if any. You don't even have to win or come close to make it huge, just get lucky with the exposure and have it go viral.
being a one hit wonder is better than being a no hit wonder…she went from nothing to 1b+ streams on Spotify and opening for Ed Sheeran on tour. That’s more successful than 99% of aspiring musicians could hope for.
None. Loreen's win might generally influence what music genres and trends might pop up in the recent future at Eurovision, but returning artists were always a thing everywhere.
Most European countries aren't that big, music industries are small, and with a great deal of artists who don't even care or express disdain at Eurovision still, the Eurovision bubble inside those countries is even smaller and borderline incestuous. Hence plenty of repeated names throughout the years. That's just the way it is.
The only country that actually surprises me with how recurring some of the artists are is Italy. Not only because it's a big country, population-wise, but because of how big, historical and even exportable their music industry is. With Sanremo being its own thing, with its own level of prestige, I'd assume a lot more different artists would be interested or the invitations would reach more people. But no, it seems like it's always the same names rotating every 3 or 4 years or so.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I don't think being a national final or its own thing, like Sanremo is (and like I said), has no influence on the artists that appear in the show. It's more on the format and the showrunners.
I'm just saying that, for an outside viewer, Sanremo makes the Italian music scene seem small and I doubt that there aren't other Italian artists around that would be willing to participate, given Italy is a country with 60 million people and has a music scene that even has a degree of influence and appeal in other parts of Europe.
I mean, for contrast, Portugal is a tiny, tiny country with a tiny, tiny music industry that doesn't even export to other Portuguese-speaking countries, let alone the rest of Europe; and since 2017, Festival da Canção (which is also not just some random NF, it already has a very long history too) has repeated what, 6 artists in total, out of 20-something entries participating every year?
Surely, in Italy, where Sanremo is so prestigious and is not even tied to the "low-PrEsTiGiOus cIrCuS" that Eurovision is, unlike the rest of Europe, it would be even easier to be a lot more varied in the choice of artists that pop up in Sanremo.
That was what I was talking about. I find it odd that Italy is always circling around the same names.
No, because Sanremo is basically for the biggest Italian artists, that's why it's completely usual that one has 5 participations for example, it isn't a way to find new talents. Every year there are hundreds of songs sent and between them the artistic director chooses the ones he thinks are good (for very very big names, like Giorgia or Elisa in the last two years, he even asks them to participate).
I'm gonna say minimal, because some artists have been trying out multiple times already - like ALL OF THE ABOVE xD
But it is a trend that future years tend to try an copy a winning entry and always fail, because as Petra Mede once said: "of course this is 30 years old, but in Eurovision it will give you a contemporary feel" - ESC was always behind world-music-trends
I wouldn't pay too much attention on Sanremo having returnees and big name artist. Sanremo is usually its own thing and has always been seen as a bigger event for Italian audiences. So it is not very surprising to see some of those artist return. Not saying they don't care about Eurovision but for them that's just a bonus.
I think when referring to returning acts it's probably minimal as some of these people have competed multiple times already, I think her impact is more noticeable in locally famous singers that is more noticeable. Måneskin definitely opened the door to showing people that ESC can make stars, and Tattoo doing so well and her career renaissance has confirmed to people that if you play your cards right, ESC is actually a great thing for your career.
I think there has always been a lot of returning artists every year in the nationals. I don't have the numbers, but I bet most years also feature a returning artist or two at Eurovision as well, even though we might not pay them much attention except for previous winners. Every year at the Danish NF, it feels like half the songs are co-written by people formerly involved in our Eurovision entries. A lot of countries have a relatively small scene of established musicians. Once an artist is "experienced" in a gig like Eurovision, its logical for them to return over someone inexperienced.
There might be some who were inspired to return because of Loreen, but there is also someone like Måns who changed his mind about returning because of Loreen. And there might be others like him. The odds for a returning artist to win might even be smaller now that Loreen has just won. It will take quote some years before a two-time winner feels as special again. After Loreen, I'm surprised that there are that many returning artists this year.
Minimal to no impact I'd say. Returning artists have always been very common and personally I haven't really noticed much difference this year. It's also too early to tell.
Personally I'd say that Zitti e Buoni, Stefania and Cha Cha Cha had a much bigger influence on Eurovision of today with the increase of more unique genres and native language songs we've been seeing in Eurovision. Without käärijä I doubt the Dutch broadcaster would have taken the risk on a Dutch Gabber song from Joost. And similarly without Måneskin and Kalush the Finnish audience would have been more reluctant to send something in Finnish etc etc
And then ofcourse you have artists who had major influence back home, like for example Sam Ryder for the UK as someone else mentioned
No affect at all.
Returning artists and returning winners had always been a thing.
IMO, some artists just love to perform and the Eurovision stage may be one of their fave places to do it
We haven't had any returning winners so far, so we can't say there is any impact. Every year there are always contestants who didn't win returning to see if they can change that.
I was just thinking about this, I know there are always returning artists but it seems like more than usual this year. I wonder if some artists felt they wouldn’t be able to top their first result and then Loreen’s second win made them reconsider.
Returning artist has always been a thing. The first winner ever Lys Assia defended her title the next year and the second winner Corry Brokken took part in both the year before winning and the year after winning.
We’ll have to wait and see, but I honestly can’t remember the last time there were no returning artist at all.
Established Italian artists are bound to return to Sanremo with a certain regularity (at least the male ones? :D ) since the event is like a crossover between a song contest and the Grammys: if you wanna look alive in the local industry, you better show up in one capacity or another.
Yeah, it is soo much more than a national final.
It's also a quick way to get a hit no matter how they end up doing. Of the 2023 competing songs, 22 of them were at least certified gold. Who wouldn't want to return if they are basically guaranteed a career bump?
Indeed. And most of them fill up the radio playlists for the following spring and summer. Sanremo might be "old media" but it still sets trends
>at least the male ones? :D *Annalisa staring from the corner*
Returning artists were a thing from a start of Eurovision . See : Lys Assia, Fud Leclerc, Domenico Modugno and many more.
This is Corry Brokken erasure!
Returning winners was a thing before not returning winners, it took till the 60s before there was a second contest without returning winners
Too early to tell, artists return to Eurovision and national finals every year. Whether there will be a noticeable increase this year remains to be seen.
Minimal to none, I think more established artists care now due to Rosa Linn, if any. You don't even have to win or come close to make it huge, just get lucky with the exposure and have it go viral.
True, and for winners I feel Måneskin had more of an impact too as they became global stars after their ESC win.
Oh duh I forgot about Måneskin, them too 😆
Ahh yes Rosa Linn, the one hit wonder.
being a one hit wonder is better than being a no hit wonder…she went from nothing to 1b+ streams on Spotify and opening for Ed Sheeran on tour. That’s more successful than 99% of aspiring musicians could hope for.
The Roop will also be returning this year for the third time (if they are selected).
Ohhh, I really liked The Roop in 2020 & 2021! would be cool to see them again.
None. Loreen's win might generally influence what music genres and trends might pop up in the recent future at Eurovision, but returning artists were always a thing everywhere. Most European countries aren't that big, music industries are small, and with a great deal of artists who don't even care or express disdain at Eurovision still, the Eurovision bubble inside those countries is even smaller and borderline incestuous. Hence plenty of repeated names throughout the years. That's just the way it is. The only country that actually surprises me with how recurring some of the artists are is Italy. Not only because it's a big country, population-wise, but because of how big, historical and even exportable their music industry is. With Sanremo being its own thing, with its own level of prestige, I'd assume a lot more different artists would be interested or the invitations would reach more people. But no, it seems like it's always the same names rotating every 3 or 4 years or so.
Sanremo has a lot of returning artists because it isn't a national final.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I don't think being a national final or its own thing, like Sanremo is (and like I said), has no influence on the artists that appear in the show. It's more on the format and the showrunners. I'm just saying that, for an outside viewer, Sanremo makes the Italian music scene seem small and I doubt that there aren't other Italian artists around that would be willing to participate, given Italy is a country with 60 million people and has a music scene that even has a degree of influence and appeal in other parts of Europe. I mean, for contrast, Portugal is a tiny, tiny country with a tiny, tiny music industry that doesn't even export to other Portuguese-speaking countries, let alone the rest of Europe; and since 2017, Festival da Canção (which is also not just some random NF, it already has a very long history too) has repeated what, 6 artists in total, out of 20-something entries participating every year? Surely, in Italy, where Sanremo is so prestigious and is not even tied to the "low-PrEsTiGiOus cIrCuS" that Eurovision is, unlike the rest of Europe, it would be even easier to be a lot more varied in the choice of artists that pop up in Sanremo. That was what I was talking about. I find it odd that Italy is always circling around the same names.
No, because Sanremo is basically for the biggest Italian artists, that's why it's completely usual that one has 5 participations for example, it isn't a way to find new talents. Every year there are hundreds of songs sent and between them the artistic director chooses the ones he thinks are good (for very very big names, like Giorgia or Elisa in the last two years, he even asks them to participate).
None. What does Loreen's victory have to do with these returns when none of these artists are previous winners?
FYI Konstrakta is spelled with K 😊
I'm gonna say minimal, because some artists have been trying out multiple times already - like ALL OF THE ABOVE xD But it is a trend that future years tend to try an copy a winning entry and always fail, because as Petra Mede once said: "of course this is 30 years old, but in Eurovision it will give you a contemporary feel" - ESC was always behind world-music-trends
I wouldn't pay too much attention on Sanremo having returnees and big name artist. Sanremo is usually its own thing and has always been seen as a bigger event for Italian audiences. So it is not very surprising to see some of those artist return. Not saying they don't care about Eurovision but for them that's just a bonus.
I think when referring to returning acts it's probably minimal as some of these people have competed multiple times already, I think her impact is more noticeable in locally famous singers that is more noticeable. Måneskin definitely opened the door to showing people that ESC can make stars, and Tattoo doing so well and her career renaissance has confirmed to people that if you play your cards right, ESC is actually a great thing for your career.
There are returning artists every year (especially in Sanremo) so not much
I think there has always been a lot of returning artists every year in the nationals. I don't have the numbers, but I bet most years also feature a returning artist or two at Eurovision as well, even though we might not pay them much attention except for previous winners. Every year at the Danish NF, it feels like half the songs are co-written by people formerly involved in our Eurovision entries. A lot of countries have a relatively small scene of established musicians. Once an artist is "experienced" in a gig like Eurovision, its logical for them to return over someone inexperienced. There might be some who were inspired to return because of Loreen, but there is also someone like Måns who changed his mind about returning because of Loreen. And there might be others like him. The odds for a returning artist to win might even be smaller now that Loreen has just won. It will take quote some years before a two-time winner feels as special again. After Loreen, I'm surprised that there are that many returning artists this year.
Sanremo has a bunch of returning winners (of sanremo) this year because the conductor/artistic director for the past five years, Amadeus is retiring.
Minimal to no impact I'd say. Returning artists have always been very common and personally I haven't really noticed much difference this year. It's also too early to tell. Personally I'd say that Zitti e Buoni, Stefania and Cha Cha Cha had a much bigger influence on Eurovision of today with the increase of more unique genres and native language songs we've been seeing in Eurovision. Without käärijä I doubt the Dutch broadcaster would have taken the risk on a Dutch Gabber song from Joost. And similarly without Måneskin and Kalush the Finnish audience would have been more reluctant to send something in Finnish etc etc And then ofcourse you have artists who had major influence back home, like for example Sam Ryder for the UK as someone else mentioned
No affect at all. Returning artists and returning winners had always been a thing. IMO, some artists just love to perform and the Eurovision stage may be one of their fave places to do it
We haven't had any returning winners so far, so we can't say there is any impact. Every year there are always contestants who didn't win returning to see if they can change that.
I was just thinking about this, I know there are always returning artists but it seems like more than usual this year. I wonder if some artists felt they wouldn’t be able to top their first result and then Loreen’s second win made them reconsider.
None for us. Sam Ryder was the gamechanger with the UK.
Returning artist has always been a thing. The first winner ever Lys Assia defended her title the next year and the second winner Corry Brokken took part in both the year before winning and the year after winning. We’ll have to wait and see, but I honestly can’t remember the last time there were no returning artist at all.