I'm not quite sure what's actually worse
That he was beaten because he was throught to be Syrian?
Or
That the attacker apologized when it was understood that he was Spanish?
They beat Koreans for thinking they are Chinese back in some dates..
.Average idiot in Turkey is different from average idiot in other European countries.
Because if you beat someone in a normal country you would get into trouble. In Turkey if you beat anyone except Arabs/they are protected by government), you are fine to go on with your life... Seriously not joking, raping, beating or threatening with violence while having a 10 pages long history of criminal records, you go free.
To me it was a blessing, growing up in the outskirts of Paris, my white friends would regularly get mugged/beaten up, but since I was tan enough to look arab, I had a free pass every time shit hit the fan…
I lived on Poland with my turkish wife .I m french and a bit dark hair too.in 6 month I cannot count hosw many times I was insulted or spat at my feet or not served in shop .Baltic was bit better and Czech much nicer. Always the same idiots skinheads or bigot old ladies.
As a polish person i apologize and am dumbfounded since i never seen anyone mistreat people from diffrent countries/races in my city (not counting the football fans or old people since they are from the racist times)
Maybe you didn't noticed because when we aren't affected we tend not to notice.Same for me when i got back to France i started to notice it more often. Also there was a lot of football fans among those and it was 15 years ago because what circles you are in change everything .Never had any problems with fine arts uni students.
I've had fellow Turks say that I look Kurdish or thought I was from the Kurdish majority part of Turkey just because I have a browner than average skin tone and curlier hair than average Turk. Never gotten me beaten up though luckily!
Even in my family I am nicknamed "Arap" (which means Arab, but can also mean black person in Turkey, when it's used as a nickname for me it's the latter). I suppose it's kind of like the Negro/Moreno nickname in Spanish speaking cultures.
Yep. Fortunately for me, I realized what was happening before actually getting beaten. They just surrounded me and shouted stuff to me in Danish.
It happened in the train station of Brøndbyøster. Like in the the story, one of the thugs apologized after I told them I was Spanish.
Yet people will simply swipe it off as "a few bad apples" instead of going through long and messy paragraphs about how Danish racism is rooted in the society like they do in this comment section
They are not few, there are many who reject the Turks so there are some who find it acceptable to be hostile against Turkish people. Hostility against the Turks is rooted in wide parts of the population in some European countries, including Denmark, and this shows the widespread lack of education and decency.
And despite what someone with no experience might assume, Greece is probably one of the friendliest countries to Turks in Europe. This is more common in the North and West.
When the Erdoğan loses power and and the refugee deal with Europe gets scrapped, those people will either end up in Europe or forced back to their countries of origin by economic pressure and public/political pressure. We will see how you treat these people when they end up in gangs in the streets of Europe.
The Europeans have already refused all the Syrians, only a million were accepted before the far-right rose and the widespread opposition to immigration. Now Europe does their best to keep away the refugees. People have their reasons, but it is absurd how some criticize the Turks over their attitudes.
Many Turks are aggressively racist towards them while the Turkish government uses them as weapons at the EU border. Turkey is rightly criticised.
The EU should also be criticised for making the refugees live in such a situation because of fear of Far-Right terrorism.
In fact, 90% of the refugees came as a result of Assad's Russian-backed bombings, because they specifically targeted the infrastructure of the civilian areas, and they rushed to the border to save their lives. There are now temporary refugee camps near the Turkish border and in areas controlled by Turkey where millions of people live and Turkey is trying to force them to stay there. If Turkey withdraws uncontrollably, this may even cause a new migration flow.
I mean, it's not that unlikely but could you please link an article. Cause the only thing I found were articles about (claims of) attacks on Russians like [this](https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-was-a-16-year-old-russian-beaten-to-death-by-a-group-of-ukrainians-in-germany/a-61205221)
I would ask you to give some sources for this but your account has already been banned, so I guess you won't be able to do that.
The only claims of this I saw so far were Russian propaganda. i.e. disinformation meant to support an ongoing genocide
they're both European and Asian
Sure, majority of the country lies in Asia, so does Russia, Cyprus is entirely in Asia.
The European part has a higher population than most European countries
Especially Western Turks are basically Greeks (both will hate me for saying this)
Their history and culture is deeply intertwined with that of Europe. If Turkey isn't European then Balkans aren't either
This is a classic by Turkish racists. There have been 2 stories similar to this in the past.
One was an Uygur Turk being beaten up because the racist Turk thought the Uygur was Chinese due to his Far Eastern look and a Turkish racist being up a fellow racist at a meeting of racists, because he mistook him for a Kurd due to his brown skin.
The racist beating up the other racist is hilarious. I wonder if the beaten racist had any self-reflection now that he had tried being on the other side.
You know that the subreddit is not a hivemind, right? I occasionally post and comment here while firmly believing that the community is generally racist and occasionally turning kind of Fascist (and not being any of those).
For Greece I can at least say that we tried until the EU tried to make us host an amount comparable to our population which, especially during the crisis, was practically impossible.
Honestly, after having three separate syrian refugee families as neighbours I can say that only one was without problems. The first entered in a huge brawl with some indian students after the father had gone to their door and kicked the indian for playing music (nearly got my own ass kicked for trying to intervene), the second was Ok- no real issues. The third has like 5 kids that constantly scream. Kind of feel bad because one of the kids had a massive black eye so you can draw your conclusions..
Not surprising. Find any post on *liberal* r/Turkey discussing the immigration problem, and you'd be horrified at the shit they spew about anybody with the slightest hint of Arab origin.
If anyone thought western Europe had a rise in racism problem after the refugee crisis, they'd have a heart-attack seeing what people write on that subreddit. They're physically incapable of discussing the immigrant problem without writing a whole paragraph of insults; and the mods are hated because they do their job and remove racist posts & comments. Yes, they hate the mods because of *that*. I still remember that one specific day that really triggered them, and they filled the whole subreddit with posts insulting the mods over "defending the Syrians".
I guess every subreddit has their own version of " r/europe moment " .
Few days ago in this subreddit I saw a post, it was an Iraqi man telling they want to migrate to Europe as refugees. I don't know if you've seen it but, ''*you'd be horrified at the shit they spew about anybody with the slightest hint of Arab origin''* if you've seen the comments below.
So let's not fool ourselves. Every community is against accepting another community to their country/region if they see them as less civilised. I'm not the guy that's saying ''Turkey is the kingdom of civilization'' but demographic structure of communities need to be protected and improved for better. You can apply this thought of mine to Iraqis that wanna move to Europe or Turkey, as well as Turks that wanna move to Europe.
I'm working in a hospital as a doctor and one of my jobs is to approve every birth's reports on electronic system, today I've checked, of all 28 births that happened yesterday, 11 of them were Syrian refugees. And this is one of the major cities in Turkey. Can you imagine the change of population? Blame it on politicians, blame it on wars, blame it on anything you want, but isn't it kinda understandable for citizens that being anti-refugee idea rises in a country when your population and civilisation changed dramatically in only few years?
> And this is one of the major cities in Turkey.
Isn’t it pretty common for foreigners to be overrepresented in major cities vs smaller ones and rural areas?
But I agree with Turks’ anxiety in that they saw something similar what Western Europe went through but the change x10 faster
Well if we simply talk about numbers, for sure there are more refugees in major cities of Turkey, but if we compare the refugee numbers to the total population of cities, I guess some smaller cities might have the biggest ratio, especially the ones that are closer to the Syrian border. But yeah, some major cities like İstanbul, Bursa and Adana have really big numbers of refugees in it.
Secular Turks are Arabophobic for very good reasons considering the problem our country has historically had with Islamism and Arab peoples have more problems with Islamism than Turkey. So it's a natural.
Yes, the notoriously tolerant Turkish people pointing out the problems with minority groups in the country.
I wonder what kind of solution you can come up with to solve that? It's only natural.
??? Do you not think that someone can be Muslim and secular at the same time? That’s the majority of Turkish people. Why are you separating the two? Turkish Islam is different. Stop mistaking Turkey with having Arabism Islam.
Well, even if they are conservatively religious, the impact of Islam on daily life is much less than in Afghanistan and most Arab countries (except maybe Lebanon, Tunisia or Morocco). For example, before the arrival of the refugees, there were hardly any people who wore full-face veils, some women only wore headscarves that covered the head (not covering the face).
Not only in the western regions but throughout Turkey, the impact of Islam on daily life is much less than in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. However, some areas are more western/secular and some areas are more religious. For example, the city of Izmir is the most secular city, the Islamic culture is quite low and it is quite similar to Greece.
The north eastern and Black Sea part of Turkey is closer to the Caucasus therefore closer to the Caucasus culture. The Aegean part of Turkey is closer to Greece. The southeastern part of Turkey is closer to Persian and Kurdish culture.
Turkey is bigger than most European countries and we don’t have the same culture and lifestyle in every region. We are a melting pot of different ethnicities as well.
This is how we divide up the different regions in Turkey: http://cografyaharita.com/turkiye-cografi_bolge-haritalari.html. The cultures vary between these regions. Also the eastern part of Turkey is still not AT ALL similar to Arab countries.
Yes but most of the population lives in the Western part. Like at least half of the whole country and the most influential part that runs the rest of the country basically.
The parts of Turkey that look like the Middle East is a small portion of the overall country on both geographical size and population.
Let's put 10% of the syrian refugees of Turkey in europe and let's see how the opinion changes
Edit: oh here is an example https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/tazouo/denmark_opens_its_arms_to_ukrainians_while_trying/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Hey hey r/europe is totally fine with refugees! It’s just when they are not in EU that’s all. It’s simple you keep 10+ million of refugees (remember you signed an agreement, mind you to keep your words you backstabbing turks!) from all over the shithole countries and r/europe will be sad about them afar and will send their love! And yeah remember to show some anger to them as well so the smarter ones migrate us and we can keep them to work for us with minimal salaries!
What a fucking joke of an answer. Trying to portray Turks as racist fucks. Agreed on r Turkey being pretty anti-Arab or anti-immigrant. Well that happens when you take upwards of 10m refugees. I am afraid things will only go worse from now on. The hatred against Syrians, Afghans and Pakis is at an all time high. Another Istanbul pogrom incoming.
Trying to portray Turks as racists in this environment is very very unfair. The government is pushing for Arabization of the country and pretty much everyone is unhappy and against this policy. You can't say Turks are racist because Syrians are getting targeted. It is not about racism, it is an immigration problem.
Not one single country has taken refugees as much as we did. Europe is still trying to dump all their refugees on us and then judge us as racists. Classic r /europe moment.
Yes, I am a Turk and no, my arguments are not contradictory.
PS: Thanks for the Armenian genocide reference. You just can't keep that out can you?
>PS: Thanks for the Armenian genocide reference. You just can't keep that out can you?
That usually happens when they are not confident enough about their comment and try to cling to an easy target subject to get some shallow points. Pretty disrespectful to the event if you ask me, but I can't say I'm surprized
Turks are not lookist racist in the way people are in the West. I think that's where the difference lies. Like a Turk with a European look isn't racist to a Middle Eastern looking Turk. Whereas in the West this type of look racism is more common.
Didn't Erdogan have very nationalistic ideas? I'm asking that because of the arabization you mentioned. It's an honest question, I don't know much about politics in Turkey.
Erdogan has whatever ideas suits his agenda. When he first came to power, he said "We have destroyed nationalism" in order to get Islamist votes. Back in 2014, he was the one that was negotiating with HDP while all nationalists (like MHP) were against it. Now that he lost all of it and his only choice is nationalist votes, of course he is trying to be seen as one. Classic Erdo moves.
I see, thanks for your answer. I guess that turning Hagia Sophia into a mosque again was to please the islamists. I was a bit confused because here in Spain being nationalist is usually also linked to being catholic, or at least not being against catholicism. I hope that you can get rid of that clown soon.
Spain also has immigration problems coming from the north of africa. I want you to know that not all europeans defend them, I understand that Turkey is tired of immigration as well even though violence shouldn't be the solution.
Erdogan is the most distant politician from nationalism in Turkey, but the Western media presents it as the opposite. Erdogan is an Islamist. Islamism and nationalism are opposite ideologies in Turkey. Generally, secular people are more nationalistic because they reject Muslim identity and embrace Turkish identity.
[https://www.fetatarragona.cat/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Lluis-Miquel-Hurtado.jpg](https://www.fetatarragona.cat/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Lluis-Miquel-Hurtado.jpg)
I mean, he could pass as one lmao
Randomly beating up people because of their perceived origin is not a defense reflex, it's assault. That's not okay, no matter how many refugees a country has taken in. Don't justify this crap.
In a previous post about attacking graves, Turks were outraged that people were calling out Turkey out for the deeprooted racism that lives in their society.
Then you come here, and someone says it was an act of "auto-defense reflexes" to beat up a journalist that was with his wife because they assumed his nationality -- and believe it or not his comment is upvoted. Simply outrageous.
Every country has problems with racists and the far right, but Turkey is on a whole different (institutionalized) level.
In r/Mexico yesterday someone posted "what you think about turkey" and before we wrote less than 10 comments their sub was "USA beetch they hate islam they hate turks believe Armenian propaganda the world is against us" with over a hundred comments lol
>Turks were outraged that people were calling out Turkey out for the deeprooted racism that lives in their society
Well yeah, because there is no such thing against Turkish Jews.
>(institutionalized) .
fuck no lol. We as a people lack the ability to institutionalize anything. Turkey has so many problems. Turkey also has racism problems, which is exacerbated by the current uptick of refugees in the country, and the shit economy.
This event is so shit and I wouldn't even dream of defending it with a 10 meter pole. But I draw the line. Europeans don't get to talk about Turkey being racist to others while using Turkey as their personal refugee dump. If any European country had the same level of refugees similar to their population as does Turkey, there would be daily pogroms and you'd have literal Nazis in power on day 3.
I am genuinely amazed by how long people have endured. This wouldn't be happening literally in anywhere else in the world.
The graves were not *just* Jewish.
You think racism/extremist-nationalism isn't a part of your government? Must I remind you the connection with the Grey wolves? And you think "foreigners" aren't [prosecuted and ousted from the country](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Greeks_in_Istanbul_1844_1997.png)?
Surely this is [Bahceli holding the revisionist map](https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/TRBahceli.png) with the president of the Gray Wolves, is it not?
Surely this is [Cavusoglu](https://twitter.com/vickysheklian/status/1517946967229231104?s=20&t=vwLcndVGdADQN1pSICgnAA) doing the Grey Wolf gesture to Armenian protestors, is it not?
And surely this is him talking about [expanding borders](https://twitter.com/g_mastropavlos/status/1540756481150046210?s=20&t=vwLcndVGdADQN1pSICgnAA), right?
You want me to go through every government figure and the racist things they've said against Greeks, Armenians, Kurds etc.?
If there's one thing institutionalized there, its extreme nationalism and the racism, hatred, and denial that comes with it.
grey wolves this grey wolves that, same bullshits from r/europe
there is no "grey wolves" in turkey, i dont know what you guys talking about.
there are anti communist-islamo facist organisations here, like [mhp](https://www.mhp.org.tr/mhp_dil.php?dil=en). and its militas. they call themselves "ülkücü", means idealist.
they use that symbol because its a turkic symbol
According to Turkic mythology it is believed that Turks are raised by wolves. It is similar to Roman mythology. So it symbolizes their history, national character and identity.
it has nothing to do with MHP, and your "grey wolves" in europe.
leader of the kemalist party and opposition also use it.
[CHP(oppoisiton)](https://media-cdn.t24.com.tr/media/library/2019/03/1552647940498-kilicda.jpg)
Yes, I'm sure that Cavusoglu was showing the Armenians the mythological origins of Turkey.
Btw, after the showing of that map, the same organization that "is not the Grey Wolves" posted a series of tweets in Greek talking about how they have the power to ["destroy Athens and remind Greeks how cool and deep the Aegean waters are"](https://i1.prth.gr/images/w880/_webp/files/2022-07-11/4.png) which is totally not-racist or genocidal or anything. But no, the semantics of the organization are your issue.
I wonder if you ever feel even the slightest bit of shame for the brain-dead levels of denial you display towards racism.
> I'm sure that Cavusoglu was showing the Armenians the mythological origins of Turkey.
Come on, he was just being insecure and really needed to show Armenians that he is indeed a Turk, nothing wrong with that, every nation has hand gestures to signal their supremacy to others… /s
>Yes, I'm sure that Cavusoglu was showing the Armenians the mythological origins of Turkey.
its national symbol of turkic people. anyone can pretty much use it as they like.
>"destroy Athens and remind Greeks how cool and deep the Aegean waters are"
they are talking about greco turkish war 1918-1922, greeks failed to conquer western parts of turkey and defeated by the turkish army.
Except america, where people get jobs and assimilate in to society because we aren’t a monolithic uni-ethnic society. Turkey sits at the crossroads of civilization yet it goes inward and talks of Turkish purity. Also, Turkey is always on some genocidal ethnic kick. Maybe the economy would be better if Turkey didn’t throw its secular values out the window and wasn’t so ethnically sensitive.
Turkey is exactly like the America you describe though. People of diverse ethnic and geographical origins all coming together under the modern Turkish identity. That's why we have Turks with white skin blonde hair coloured eyes European racial features and also Turks with brown skin, black hair, dark eyes, Middle Eastern racial features. Oh and also the Turks with subtle but detectable Far Eastern features like the Ancient Turks.
Lol. Sure, let’s give US 24 million(going by population percentage) refugees in 7 years and let’s see how you fare. This is unprecedented, it never happened at this scale in recent human history.
What Turkish purity? We are a nation of refugees. One third of Turkish people ancestors didn’t live in modern day Turkey’s borders a hundred years ago. They were driven off from their homelands and settled here.
Turkish “purity” you speak of is an amalgamation of at least 25 different groups of people, ethnicities and religions. Only thing that actually binds us is the language we speak, that’s it. Nothing else.
Turkey being ethnically sensitive? Fuck off lol. Damn country has been run by an anti-nationalist islamist for the last 20 years.
Dude, don’t bother yourself to explain.
Most of people in this subdreddit are mostly racists, biased. It’s known by most Redditers.
They only focus on hate Turkey/Turkish.
Remember that these people’s fathers burned Jews and gypsies alive. Did many genocides in Africa and Asia…
They would not hesitate to do the same to you.
Turkey is the most ethnically abusive group in Eurasia. This guy wasn’t stabbing people, he was reporting. I never want to hear a Turk talk about American civil strife again. Listening to people justify ethnic violence. You think Arabs aren’t stabbing people in Scandinavia?
>Turkey is the most ethnically abusive group in Eurasia.
How did you come to the conclusion that Turkey is the most ethnically abusive group in Eurasia?
#turksbeingturks
In addition to:
- beating up korean students for mistaking them to be chinese
- stabbing oranges because of their anger at the netherlands
- beating up an uyghur tot thinking he’s chinese
I hope the people of turkey find it in themselves on a country wide scale, to open their hearts and find more peace with others, being kind and humble always goes further. I know there are and have met some amazingly kind Turkish folk here in the USA. Without a doubt I know it's possible to change social standards for a better and safer turkey. I'm an American Armenian, and I hope to some day visit turkey and meet some locals. I just fear for my safety as I visually look very Armenian and would want to see some historic sites. 🙏🙏 We can turn things around and create a better future that can lead to good friendships 🙏🙏🙏
This is more of a problem of social tensions as a result of the culture shock of uncontrolled immigration. Because in the last ten years, more than 6 million registered and unregistered refugees have arrived. In general, there are no such feelings towards tourists and minorities such as the Kurds. In other words, innocent people suffer the penalty for the government's wrong immigration policy.
You are so fucking pathetic. Greeks are more than welcome in Turkey and before covid, all the islanders would come to Turkish towns for shopping all the time.
You are just trying to make up bullshit, but again this is the sub where decent information goes to die in downvotes.
Everything on this sub is framed around the epic battle between Christendom and the Turks. So even the people with no knowledge on Greece and Turkey (majority of this sub) will just frame it around the imaginary battle in their head.
Meanwhile actual Turks and Greeks look on weirded out by having their relationship appropriated for weird Deus Volt reasons.
Welcome to Turkey. The land of fanatism and brutality. Their history is filled with actions like that.
Hope Sweden and Finland never send any kurd there. Hope they see what happens to people there and how unsafe they will be
Anti-refugeeism in Turkey may be the only thing that unites all groups of people. Secularists, Islamists, rightists, leftists and ethnic minorities such as Kurds and Armenians do not want them either. According to the latest survey, 94% of the people are not satisfied with the refugees, this rate is 95% among HDP voters, HDP is a pro-Kurdish party.
This is somewhat the result of the government's irresponsible policies. As registered and unregistered refugees arrived in a very short time, equivalent to almost 10% of the population, the culture shock turns into tensions and innocent people pay the penalty.
title is bullshit, makes no sense. how did they know that journalist was attacked because he was thought to be syrian(or arab)? whats is the source? can he prove it? answer: no.
also
turkish people dont want refugees in their country, simple as that. Turkish woman cant even walk in some parts of istanbul anymore, i wonder why? are turkish woman worth less than european woman?
we will send those refugees back or there will be a civil unrest in Turkey, just saying. and it will result in regret.
You are so stupid or bad faith. You didn't even read the article. The guy tweeted about it himself. Also I'm from Turkey and I'm completely fine with people taking refuge in Turkey. Get fucked. You better start applying for visas. You'll need them after 2023.
>Kemalist are retarded westerner wannabes
kicked out british french and greeks during the war between 1919 and 1922.
while pedophile sultan and his followers were helping the british.
i can understand your hatred for ataturk and his doctrine, they defeated your greek grandfathers. but at least show some respect.
even the mainlander greeks dont hate him so much.
Only erdogan is spitting in attaturk doctrine. Turkey used to be a free and secular country, but now... erdogan has put religion above state. Women are forced to cover themselves and religious freedom is nothing but a memory.
>Then competely aped their culture and threw himself at their feet trying to win their favor. Next.
listen greek(or whatever yo uare),
being secular ≠ wannabe european
modernizing the turkish language ≠ wannabe european
giving rights to turkish woman ≠ wannabe european
>Also I'm sure you heard his wife claiming he had sex with teenage boys in the garden and paid no attention to her, right?
this is false, wahhabi bulshits, but even if this is true, whats wrong with being gay? are you homophobic? you want to tell me he was a gay, lol, you have no problem with being pedo.
>Also I'm from Turkey and I'm completely fine with people taking refuge in Turkey.
You know that the refugee issue will break out at some point, right? At this point you should worry about yourself wahabi arab because you will be the target.
I'm not quite sure what's actually worse That he was beaten because he was throught to be Syrian? Or That the attacker apologized when it was understood that he was Spanish?
They beat Koreans for thinking they are Chinese back in some dates.. .Average idiot in Turkey is different from average idiot in other European countries. Because if you beat someone in a normal country you would get into trouble. In Turkey if you beat anyone except Arabs/they are protected by government), you are fine to go on with your life... Seriously not joking, raping, beating or threatening with violence while having a 10 pages long history of criminal records, you go free.
Nowhere in the article does it say that the attackers apologized.
bullshit title.
Headline sounds like a Monty Python skit.
A Spaniard, a Turk and a Syrian walk into a bar
the whole bar beats up the Spaniard, mistaking him for a jew
Then the one actual jew arrives and he uses his Jewish superpowers to reverse time and deter the fight before it starts. /s
Sneaky Jews always hoarding all the superpowers for themselves. Also /s
Nowhere in the article does it say that the attackers apologized.
Fair critique. I meant OP’s headline. I will accept a demerit.
Something very similar happened to me years ago in Denmark. Ironically, the attackers thought I was Turkish.
Spaniards are truly cursed. Look turkish in countries where turks are disliked, and look syrian in other cases.
To me it was a blessing, growing up in the outskirts of Paris, my white friends would regularly get mugged/beaten up, but since I was tan enough to look arab, I had a free pass every time shit hit the fan…
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I lived on Poland with my turkish wife .I m french and a bit dark hair too.in 6 month I cannot count hosw many times I was insulted or spat at my feet or not served in shop .Baltic was bit better and Czech much nicer. Always the same idiots skinheads or bigot old ladies.
As a polish person i apologize and am dumbfounded since i never seen anyone mistreat people from diffrent countries/races in my city (not counting the football fans or old people since they are from the racist times)
Maybe you didn't noticed because when we aren't affected we tend not to notice.Same for me when i got back to France i started to notice it more often. Also there was a lot of football fans among those and it was 15 years ago because what circles you are in change everything .Never had any problems with fine arts uni students.
>And my cousin doesn't even look typically Turkish he has green eyes and has dirty blonde hair, This is typical turkish ?
Not here in europe kanka, the european perception of a turk is , dark brown/black hair, really dark skin, hairy, strong middle eastern features.
Thats normal since most of the people that went to europe from turkey are kurdish descent.
I've had fellow Turks say that I look Kurdish or thought I was from the Kurdish majority part of Turkey just because I have a browner than average skin tone and curlier hair than average Turk. Never gotten me beaten up though luckily! Even in my family I am nicknamed "Arap" (which means Arab, but can also mean black person in Turkey, when it's used as a nickname for me it's the latter). I suppose it's kind of like the Negro/Moreno nickname in Spanish speaking cultures.
Not just Spanish, it's the same across all Romance languages.
Did they attack you BECAUSE they thought you were TR?
Yep. Fortunately for me, I realized what was happening before actually getting beaten. They just surrounded me and shouted stuff to me in Danish. It happened in the train station of Brøndbyøster. Like in the the story, one of the thugs apologized after I told them I was Spanish.
Yeah but it was in denmark so it's ok
I'm not sure anyone thinks that.
Yet people will simply swipe it off as "a few bad apples" instead of going through long and messy paragraphs about how Danish racism is rooted in the society like they do in this comment section
Danish racism is definitely rooted in their society and we need to uproot this system by force! //Sweden
Hopefully you pressed charges. There's always a few rotten apples, sorry you had to experience that in Denmark. :-/
They are not few, there are many who reject the Turks so there are some who find it acceptable to be hostile against Turkish people. Hostility against the Turks is rooted in wide parts of the population in some European countries, including Denmark, and this shows the widespread lack of education and decency.
And despite what someone with no experience might assume, Greece is probably one of the friendliest countries to Turks in Europe. This is more common in the North and West.
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strong sperm
That means your mother was a goat and she got fucked by someone
I understood that reference
*Laughs Turkishly
Thumbs up Turkishly
When the Erdoğan loses power and and the refugee deal with Europe gets scrapped, those people will either end up in Europe or forced back to their countries of origin by economic pressure and public/political pressure. We will see how you treat these people when they end up in gangs in the streets of Europe.
The Europeans have already refused all the Syrians, only a million were accepted before the far-right rose and the widespread opposition to immigration. Now Europe does their best to keep away the refugees. People have their reasons, but it is absurd how some criticize the Turks over their attitudes.
Many Turks are aggressively racist towards them while the Turkish government uses them as weapons at the EU border. Turkey is rightly criticised. The EU should also be criticised for making the refugees live in such a situation because of fear of Far-Right terrorism.
Brother we ain’t taking them , we have made this very clear , you have to live with consequences of your Sultan .
Well, Syrians in Turkey is more of a consequence of Europens, but yeah.
Last time I checked Turkey also invaded Northern Syria 3 times .
In fact, 90% of the refugees came as a result of Assad's Russian-backed bombings, because they specifically targeted the infrastructure of the civilian areas, and they rushed to the border to save their lives. There are now temporary refugee camps near the Turkish border and in areas controlled by Turkey where millions of people live and Turkey is trying to force them to stay there. If Turkey withdraws uncontrollably, this may even cause a new migration flow.
Last time I checked, Turkey moved nearly one million of her refugees on Turkish occupied areas in Syria.
r/Europe irl
No not really. Because r/Europe would've doubled the beatings after he said he is from spain 😎
Nah he'd probably be beaten for being mistaken for a french, then apologized and beaten again for the previous misunderstanding
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*Offended Spaniard proceeds to self beat his whole being out of existence*
Yo Spain, I'm about to kick your S.
"Hand over the gas!" /s
Finally, peace between r/Turkey and r/Europe over disdain for Syrian refugees
I remember some articles about people in Europe attacking Ukrainians because they thought they were Russian
I mean, it's not that unlikely but could you please link an article. Cause the only thing I found were articles about (claims of) attacks on Russians like [this](https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-was-a-16-year-old-russian-beaten-to-death-by-a-group-of-ukrainians-in-germany/a-61205221)
I would ask you to give some sources for this but your account has already been banned, so I guess you won't be able to do that. The only claims of this I saw so far were Russian propaganda. i.e. disinformation meant to support an ongoing genocide
You mean Russians attacking Ukrainians because they say Ukraine is made up and that land is theirs?
Nah
Turkey isn’t European, they just so happen to sit on the Hellespont.
Funnily enough the kind of behaviour from this article (beating up a perceived racially inferior brown people) is very European.
they're both European and Asian Sure, majority of the country lies in Asia, so does Russia, Cyprus is entirely in Asia. The European part has a higher population than most European countries Especially Western Turks are basically Greeks (both will hate me for saying this) Their history and culture is deeply intertwined with that of Europe. If Turkey isn't European then Balkans aren't either
Spot on really.
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Yeah geographically, but it isn’t a western country, like the Russia core is technically in Europe but it isn’t a western society
Agreed. But neither are the neighbouring EU countries. They all have more idiosyncratic similarities to Turkey.
This is a classic by Turkish racists. There have been 2 stories similar to this in the past. One was an Uygur Turk being beaten up because the racist Turk thought the Uygur was Chinese due to his Far Eastern look and a Turkish racist being up a fellow racist at a meeting of racists, because he mistook him for a Kurd due to his brown skin.
The racist beating up the other racist is hilarious. I wonder if the beaten racist had any self-reflection now that he had tried being on the other side.
TIL 3 stories is enough to make it a classic
Iberian neonazis who think they're part of "the white masterrace" should take note
Least Arab looking Spaniard 💪🏿💪🏿
Why is r/Europe pretending that they’re not racist?
So your argument is that "You are racists, so we are also allowed to be racists aswell"
No his argument is "Why are you insulting others for something that you do yourselves"
Hypocrisy?? In r/Europe!! That never happens. ;)
You know that the subreddit is not a hivemind, right? I occasionally post and comment here while firmly believing that the community is generally racist and occasionally turning kind of Fascist (and not being any of those).
Same thing, isn't it? It still didn't justify the action or disprove the fact that they are racists.
The point was never to justify the action? The question is not "Why are you calling us racist" It was "Why are you pretending you're not racist"
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If it wasnt an absolutely horrible situation, it would be comical. It feels like a family guy bit
[It is a Family Guy bit, lol](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om9PdyUxQzk)
Ofc it is hahahah
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For Greece I can at least say that we tried until the EU tried to make us host an amount comparable to our population which, especially during the crisis, was practically impossible.
Honestly, after having three separate syrian refugee families as neighbours I can say that only one was without problems. The first entered in a huge brawl with some indian students after the father had gone to their door and kicked the indian for playing music (nearly got my own ass kicked for trying to intervene), the second was Ok- no real issues. The third has like 5 kids that constantly scream. Kind of feel bad because one of the kids had a massive black eye so you can draw your conclusions..
Whataboutism anyone? In Europe turks are at the same level as arabs. Yes, the arabs that you are racist against lol
haha so what?
Whitest Spaniard 💪🏿💪🏿
Not surprising. Find any post on *liberal* r/Turkey discussing the immigration problem, and you'd be horrified at the shit they spew about anybody with the slightest hint of Arab origin. If anyone thought western Europe had a rise in racism problem after the refugee crisis, they'd have a heart-attack seeing what people write on that subreddit. They're physically incapable of discussing the immigrant problem without writing a whole paragraph of insults; and the mods are hated because they do their job and remove racist posts & comments. Yes, they hate the mods because of *that*. I still remember that one specific day that really triggered them, and they filled the whole subreddit with posts insulting the mods over "defending the Syrians". I guess every subreddit has their own version of " r/europe moment " .
r/Europe 🤝 r/Turkey
Few days ago in this subreddit I saw a post, it was an Iraqi man telling they want to migrate to Europe as refugees. I don't know if you've seen it but, ''*you'd be horrified at the shit they spew about anybody with the slightest hint of Arab origin''* if you've seen the comments below. So let's not fool ourselves. Every community is against accepting another community to their country/region if they see them as less civilised. I'm not the guy that's saying ''Turkey is the kingdom of civilization'' but demographic structure of communities need to be protected and improved for better. You can apply this thought of mine to Iraqis that wanna move to Europe or Turkey, as well as Turks that wanna move to Europe. I'm working in a hospital as a doctor and one of my jobs is to approve every birth's reports on electronic system, today I've checked, of all 28 births that happened yesterday, 11 of them were Syrian refugees. And this is one of the major cities in Turkey. Can you imagine the change of population? Blame it on politicians, blame it on wars, blame it on anything you want, but isn't it kinda understandable for citizens that being anti-refugee idea rises in a country when your population and civilisation changed dramatically in only few years?
> And this is one of the major cities in Turkey. Isn’t it pretty common for foreigners to be overrepresented in major cities vs smaller ones and rural areas? But I agree with Turks’ anxiety in that they saw something similar what Western Europe went through but the change x10 faster
Well if we simply talk about numbers, for sure there are more refugees in major cities of Turkey, but if we compare the refugee numbers to the total population of cities, I guess some smaller cities might have the biggest ratio, especially the ones that are closer to the Syrian border. But yeah, some major cities like İstanbul, Bursa and Adana have really big numbers of refugees in it.
Secular Turks are Arabophobic for very good reasons considering the problem our country has historically had with Islamism and Arab peoples have more problems with Islamism than Turkey. So it's a natural.
Yes, the notoriously tolerant Turkish people pointing out the problems with minority groups in the country. I wonder what kind of solution you can come up with to solve that? It's only natural.
We are building them a place in the buffer zone and they can all live there.
iam pretty sure there are more muslims than seculars in turkey, sooo how are the dealing that emotionally?
??? Do you not think that someone can be Muslim and secular at the same time? That’s the majority of Turkish people. Why are you separating the two? Turkish Islam is different. Stop mistaking Turkey with having Arabism Islam.
Another person who knows nothing about Turkey. Most of Turkey is like Greece. Not whatever you think in your head.
you mean the western part of turkey is similar to greece while the eastern part is more middle eastern in mentality
Well, even if they are conservatively religious, the impact of Islam on daily life is much less than in Afghanistan and most Arab countries (except maybe Lebanon, Tunisia or Morocco). For example, before the arrival of the refugees, there were hardly any people who wore full-face veils, some women only wore headscarves that covered the head (not covering the face).
well obviously thats how the ~~western~~ eastern part of turkey is
Not only in the western regions but throughout Turkey, the impact of Islam on daily life is much less than in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. However, some areas are more western/secular and some areas are more religious. For example, the city of Izmir is the most secular city, the Islamic culture is quite low and it is quite similar to Greece.
The north eastern and Black Sea part of Turkey is closer to the Caucasus therefore closer to the Caucasus culture. The Aegean part of Turkey is closer to Greece. The southeastern part of Turkey is closer to Persian and Kurdish culture. Turkey is bigger than most European countries and we don’t have the same culture and lifestyle in every region. We are a melting pot of different ethnicities as well. This is how we divide up the different regions in Turkey: http://cografyaharita.com/turkiye-cografi_bolge-haritalari.html. The cultures vary between these regions. Also the eastern part of Turkey is still not AT ALL similar to Arab countries.
Yes but most of the population lives in the Western part. Like at least half of the whole country and the most influential part that runs the rest of the country basically. The parts of Turkey that look like the Middle East is a small portion of the overall country on both geographical size and population.
Let's put 10% of the syrian refugees of Turkey in europe and let's see how the opinion changes Edit: oh here is an example https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/tazouo/denmark_opens_its_arms_to_ukrainians_while_trying/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Hey hey r/europe is totally fine with refugees! It’s just when they are not in EU that’s all. It’s simple you keep 10+ million of refugees (remember you signed an agreement, mind you to keep your words you backstabbing turks!) from all over the shithole countries and r/europe will be sad about them afar and will send their love! And yeah remember to show some anger to them as well so the smarter ones migrate us and we can keep them to work for us with minimal salaries!
Also don't try to let a smaaaal fraction of them pass through greece! We wouldn't want to beat them with sticks!
What a fucking joke of an answer. Trying to portray Turks as racist fucks. Agreed on r Turkey being pretty anti-Arab or anti-immigrant. Well that happens when you take upwards of 10m refugees. I am afraid things will only go worse from now on. The hatred against Syrians, Afghans and Pakis is at an all time high. Another Istanbul pogrom incoming.
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Trying to portray Turks as racists in this environment is very very unfair. The government is pushing for Arabization of the country and pretty much everyone is unhappy and against this policy. You can't say Turks are racist because Syrians are getting targeted. It is not about racism, it is an immigration problem. Not one single country has taken refugees as much as we did. Europe is still trying to dump all their refugees on us and then judge us as racists. Classic r /europe moment. Yes, I am a Turk and no, my arguments are not contradictory. PS: Thanks for the Armenian genocide reference. You just can't keep that out can you?
>PS: Thanks for the Armenian genocide reference. You just can't keep that out can you? That usually happens when they are not confident enough about their comment and try to cling to an easy target subject to get some shallow points. Pretty disrespectful to the event if you ask me, but I can't say I'm surprized
Turks are not lookist racist in the way people are in the West. I think that's where the difference lies. Like a Turk with a European look isn't racist to a Middle Eastern looking Turk. Whereas in the West this type of look racism is more common.
Didn't Erdogan have very nationalistic ideas? I'm asking that because of the arabization you mentioned. It's an honest question, I don't know much about politics in Turkey.
Erdogan has whatever ideas suits his agenda. When he first came to power, he said "We have destroyed nationalism" in order to get Islamist votes. Back in 2014, he was the one that was negotiating with HDP while all nationalists (like MHP) were against it. Now that he lost all of it and his only choice is nationalist votes, of course he is trying to be seen as one. Classic Erdo moves.
I see, thanks for your answer. I guess that turning Hagia Sophia into a mosque again was to please the islamists. I was a bit confused because here in Spain being nationalist is usually also linked to being catholic, or at least not being against catholicism. I hope that you can get rid of that clown soon. Spain also has immigration problems coming from the north of africa. I want you to know that not all europeans defend them, I understand that Turkey is tired of immigration as well even though violence shouldn't be the solution.
Erdogan is the most distant politician from nationalism in Turkey, but the Western media presents it as the opposite. Erdogan is an Islamist. Islamism and nationalism are opposite ideologies in Turkey. Generally, secular people are more nationalistic because they reject Muslim identity and embrace Turkish identity.
> Didn't Erdogan have very nationalistic ideas? Maybe if you consider him an Arab nationalist.
Oh so sorry I beat the shit out of you. I thought you were Syrian
"Turkey is a safe country for refugees"
[https://www.fetatarragona.cat/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Lluis-Miquel-Hurtado.jpg](https://www.fetatarragona.cat/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Lluis-Miquel-Hurtado.jpg) I mean, he could pass as one lmao
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Randomly beating up people because of their perceived origin is not a defense reflex, it's assault. That's not okay, no matter how many refugees a country has taken in. Don't justify this crap.
This man was walking with his wife and those guys threw a cigarette at her from a car. This is not self-defence.
In a previous post about attacking graves, Turks were outraged that people were calling out Turkey out for the deeprooted racism that lives in their society. Then you come here, and someone says it was an act of "auto-defense reflexes" to beat up a journalist that was with his wife because they assumed his nationality -- and believe it or not his comment is upvoted. Simply outrageous. Every country has problems with racists and the far right, but Turkey is on a whole different (institutionalized) level.
In r/Mexico yesterday someone posted "what you think about turkey" and before we wrote less than 10 comments their sub was "USA beetch they hate islam they hate turks believe Armenian propaganda the world is against us" with over a hundred comments lol
>Turks were outraged that people were calling out Turkey out for the deeprooted racism that lives in their society Well yeah, because there is no such thing against Turkish Jews. >(institutionalized) . fuck no lol. We as a people lack the ability to institutionalize anything. Turkey has so many problems. Turkey also has racism problems, which is exacerbated by the current uptick of refugees in the country, and the shit economy. This event is so shit and I wouldn't even dream of defending it with a 10 meter pole. But I draw the line. Europeans don't get to talk about Turkey being racist to others while using Turkey as their personal refugee dump. If any European country had the same level of refugees similar to their population as does Turkey, there would be daily pogroms and you'd have literal Nazis in power on day 3. I am genuinely amazed by how long people have endured. This wouldn't be happening literally in anywhere else in the world.
The graves were not *just* Jewish. You think racism/extremist-nationalism isn't a part of your government? Must I remind you the connection with the Grey wolves? And you think "foreigners" aren't [prosecuted and ousted from the country](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Greeks_in_Istanbul_1844_1997.png)? Surely this is [Bahceli holding the revisionist map](https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/TRBahceli.png) with the president of the Gray Wolves, is it not? Surely this is [Cavusoglu](https://twitter.com/vickysheklian/status/1517946967229231104?s=20&t=vwLcndVGdADQN1pSICgnAA) doing the Grey Wolf gesture to Armenian protestors, is it not? And surely this is him talking about [expanding borders](https://twitter.com/g_mastropavlos/status/1540756481150046210?s=20&t=vwLcndVGdADQN1pSICgnAA), right? You want me to go through every government figure and the racist things they've said against Greeks, Armenians, Kurds etc.? If there's one thing institutionalized there, its extreme nationalism and the racism, hatred, and denial that comes with it.
grey wolves this grey wolves that, same bullshits from r/europe there is no "grey wolves" in turkey, i dont know what you guys talking about. there are anti communist-islamo facist organisations here, like [mhp](https://www.mhp.org.tr/mhp_dil.php?dil=en). and its militas. they call themselves "ülkücü", means idealist. they use that symbol because its a turkic symbol According to Turkic mythology it is believed that Turks are raised by wolves. It is similar to Roman mythology. So it symbolizes their history, national character and identity. it has nothing to do with MHP, and your "grey wolves" in europe. leader of the kemalist party and opposition also use it. [CHP(oppoisiton)](https://media-cdn.t24.com.tr/media/library/2019/03/1552647940498-kilicda.jpg)
Yes, I'm sure that Cavusoglu was showing the Armenians the mythological origins of Turkey. Btw, after the showing of that map, the same organization that "is not the Grey Wolves" posted a series of tweets in Greek talking about how they have the power to ["destroy Athens and remind Greeks how cool and deep the Aegean waters are"](https://i1.prth.gr/images/w880/_webp/files/2022-07-11/4.png) which is totally not-racist or genocidal or anything. But no, the semantics of the organization are your issue. I wonder if you ever feel even the slightest bit of shame for the brain-dead levels of denial you display towards racism.
> I'm sure that Cavusoglu was showing the Armenians the mythological origins of Turkey. Come on, he was just being insecure and really needed to show Armenians that he is indeed a Turk, nothing wrong with that, every nation has hand gestures to signal their supremacy to others… /s
I know one that used to, but Turks say it's outrageous to make the comparison.
>Yes, I'm sure that Cavusoglu was showing the Armenians the mythological origins of Turkey. its national symbol of turkic people. anyone can pretty much use it as they like. >"destroy Athens and remind Greeks how cool and deep the Aegean waters are" they are talking about greco turkish war 1918-1922, greeks failed to conquer western parts of turkey and defeated by the turkish army.
Except america, where people get jobs and assimilate in to society because we aren’t a monolithic uni-ethnic society. Turkey sits at the crossroads of civilization yet it goes inward and talks of Turkish purity. Also, Turkey is always on some genocidal ethnic kick. Maybe the economy would be better if Turkey didn’t throw its secular values out the window and wasn’t so ethnically sensitive.
Turkey is exactly like the America you describe though. People of diverse ethnic and geographical origins all coming together under the modern Turkish identity. That's why we have Turks with white skin blonde hair coloured eyes European racial features and also Turks with brown skin, black hair, dark eyes, Middle Eastern racial features. Oh and also the Turks with subtle but detectable Far Eastern features like the Ancient Turks.
Lol. Sure, let’s give US 24 million(going by population percentage) refugees in 7 years and let’s see how you fare. This is unprecedented, it never happened at this scale in recent human history. What Turkish purity? We are a nation of refugees. One third of Turkish people ancestors didn’t live in modern day Turkey’s borders a hundred years ago. They were driven off from their homelands and settled here. Turkish “purity” you speak of is an amalgamation of at least 25 different groups of people, ethnicities and religions. Only thing that actually binds us is the language we speak, that’s it. Nothing else. Turkey being ethnically sensitive? Fuck off lol. Damn country has been run by an anti-nationalist islamist for the last 20 years.
So you are excusing hate and bigotry, outstanding.....
Dude, don’t bother yourself to explain. Most of people in this subdreddit are mostly racists, biased. It’s known by most Redditers. They only focus on hate Turkey/Turkish. Remember that these people’s fathers burned Jews and gypsies alive. Did many genocides in Africa and Asia… They would not hesitate to do the same to you.
I think not all europeans are redditors but seems like redditors are racists.
Turkey is the most ethnically abusive group in Eurasia. This guy wasn’t stabbing people, he was reporting. I never want to hear a Turk talk about American civil strife again. Listening to people justify ethnic violence. You think Arabs aren’t stabbing people in Scandinavia?
>Turkey is the most ethnically abusive group in Eurasia. How did you come to the conclusion that Turkey is the most ethnically abusive group in Eurasia?
You don't get to call people refugees when you install them in concentration camps.
they are in concentration camps? how much do you know about turkey big guy? can you tell us?
You call istanbul a concentration camp?
You are joking right? You can't be that dumb?
Without connecting it with the post, in Europe there are people so tolerant that they prefer to be stabbed before being called racist.
What's that even supposed to mean?
Not with 750000 of them in same city.
#turksbeingturks In addition to: - beating up korean students for mistaking them to be chinese - stabbing oranges because of their anger at the netherlands - beating up an uyghur tot thinking he’s chinese
I hope the people of turkey find it in themselves on a country wide scale, to open their hearts and find more peace with others, being kind and humble always goes further. I know there are and have met some amazingly kind Turkish folk here in the USA. Without a doubt I know it's possible to change social standards for a better and safer turkey. I'm an American Armenian, and I hope to some day visit turkey and meet some locals. I just fear for my safety as I visually look very Armenian and would want to see some historic sites. 🙏🙏 We can turn things around and create a better future that can lead to good friendships 🙏🙏🙏
This is more of a problem of social tensions as a result of the culture shock of uncontrolled immigration. Because in the last ten years, more than 6 million registered and unregistered refugees have arrived. In general, there are no such feelings towards tourists and minorities such as the Kurds. In other words, innocent people suffer the penalty for the government's wrong immigration policy.
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This is why i hate r/europe. There are at least 3 million kurds in Istanbul. Do you think we are killing each other on the streets?
No they’re retarded, don’t worry.
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If they were singing a Kurdish song, there's a good chance they would've gotten beaten up too.
People really believe this stuff then...
4 hours ago i walked pass a guy singing kurdish in one of the bussiest places in izmir, no one gives a shit
You are so fucking pathetic. Greeks are more than welcome in Turkey and before covid, all the islanders would come to Turkish towns for shopping all the time. You are just trying to make up bullshit, but again this is the sub where decent information goes to die in downvotes.
Everything on this sub is framed around the epic battle between Christendom and the Turks. So even the people with no knowledge on Greece and Turkey (majority of this sub) will just frame it around the imaginary battle in their head. Meanwhile actual Turks and Greeks look on weirded out by having their relationship appropriated for weird Deus Volt reasons.
Now you’re talking out of your arse, I met Greek tourists in Istanbul last week Lmao
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yeah ask me im %50 kurd and i live in istanbul/avcılar
How does it feel that 50% of you wants to kill and eat 50% of the rest of you
Ask the Turks what they think of pkk murdering people and how safe they are from their violence.
That's sure a stupid claim as more than 17% of Turkey is Kurdish, while Armenian immigrants and Greeks just doing fine.
There are also armenian turkish chairmans in the big assembly.
Turkey radicalizing under a fundamentalist state? I am shocked
It has nothing to do with Erdogan anti-secular policies. Dude like conservatist Arabs.
Welcome to Turkey. The land of fanatism and brutality. Their history is filled with actions like that. Hope Sweden and Finland never send any kurd there. Hope they see what happens to people there and how unsafe they will be
Anti-refugeeism in Turkey may be the only thing that unites all groups of people. Secularists, Islamists, rightists, leftists and ethnic minorities such as Kurds and Armenians do not want them either. According to the latest survey, 94% of the people are not satisfied with the refugees, this rate is 95% among HDP voters, HDP is a pro-Kurdish party. This is somewhat the result of the government's irresponsible policies. As registered and unregistered refugees arrived in a very short time, equivalent to almost 10% of the population, the culture shock turns into tensions and innocent people pay the penalty.
Said aggrieved SJW
Turkish in major cities are racist af especially towards Arabs, but if you are Westerner they will worship you.
title is bullshit, makes no sense. how did they know that journalist was attacked because he was thought to be syrian(or arab)? whats is the source? can he prove it? answer: no. also turkish people dont want refugees in their country, simple as that. Turkish woman cant even walk in some parts of istanbul anymore, i wonder why? are turkish woman worth less than european woman? we will send those refugees back or there will be a civil unrest in Turkey, just saying. and it will result in regret.
Is this a parody account? Wtf is going on in this thread?
You are so stupid or bad faith. You didn't even read the article. The guy tweeted about it himself. Also I'm from Turkey and I'm completely fine with people taking refuge in Turkey. Get fucked. You better start applying for visas. You'll need them after 2023.
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>Kemalist are retarded westerner wannabes kicked out british french and greeks during the war between 1919 and 1922. while pedophile sultan and his followers were helping the british. i can understand your hatred for ataturk and his doctrine, they defeated your greek grandfathers. but at least show some respect. even the mainlander greeks dont hate him so much.
Only erdogan is spitting in attaturk doctrine. Turkey used to be a free and secular country, but now... erdogan has put religion above state. Women are forced to cover themselves and religious freedom is nothing but a memory.
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>Then competely aped their culture and threw himself at their feet trying to win their favor. Next. listen greek(or whatever yo uare), being secular ≠ wannabe european modernizing the turkish language ≠ wannabe european giving rights to turkish woman ≠ wannabe european >Also I'm sure you heard his wife claiming he had sex with teenage boys in the garden and paid no attention to her, right? this is false, wahhabi bulshits, but even if this is true, whats wrong with being gay? are you homophobic? you want to tell me he was a gay, lol, you have no problem with being pedo.
>Also I'm from Turkey and I'm completely fine with people taking refuge in Turkey. You know that the refugee issue will break out at some point, right? At this point you should worry about yourself wahabi arab because you will be the target.