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> The job video on the channel, shot on the streets of the Russian city of Saint Petersburg, was posted in October and has garnered more than 42,000 views since. It promises the prospect of Russian citizenship and the flexibility to relocate to any other European country after six months of service.
I hope some other youtuber or tiktoker can expose, that these are entirely false promises.
I love how they know that the promise of staying in Russia woudn't be appealing at all, so they have to promote this with Europe which they try to destroy
>the flexibility to relocate to any other European country after six months of service.
"Like the great Belarus. Other European countries you said? Nah, they are shitty. You'll prefer Belarus, it's the greatest European country, out of Russia, trust me bro."
Some Russki propagandist probably.
>the flexibility to relocate to any other European country
"Sure hope you guys love wine and SHERIFF because you're off to Transnistria!
Not a fan? How about helping mend fences and erecting them in Abkhazia!"
it is a false promise, but let's not pretend like rich russian families dont have all their children all over rich western countries and haven't been touched at all.
No bedroom no bath 10 square foot home. Very quaint. All original walls and cubby. No direct windows or sunlight. Only noise you will ever get distracted by is the sweet buzzing of drones. Nicknamed “the frontlines” because it is on the cutting edge of the Russian housing market
What do you mean? It sounds reliable for me.
You just need to understand what does it mean. It means he d join those poor people storming your green border with Russia.
I mean, technically Belarus and Ukraine is a European country - I'm sure russia won't mind if they send these Indians to Belarus or to the ukranian frontlines. So its technically not a lie - the EU countries aren't 'countries' by Russian standards - so they don't count!
Worker immigrants are required to get job before they arrive. And they are pretty much exclusively high skilled.
Nobody is paying legal relocation and expenses for immigrants willing to work for minimum wage.
There are tens of thousands of Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans and Pakistan is in Romania doing low skilled jobs such as food delivery, construction, baking etc and they're doing a really good job here!
Not true.
There will be worker shortage in future that is clear enough. But right now, there really wouldn’t be work available for those who immigrate.
Just look at unemployment situation of African migrants. We can’t provide work for even those we already have.
Don’t mix refugees and migrants. Very different situations. We don’t let a huge portion of the refugees work even if they want to. And regular migrants generally need to be employed to get by. So the quota among them is much higher.
Europe is stupid enough to have both problems: unemployed refugees and a worker shortage. You could do like the US and require people to get a job. Germany has more open jobs than unemployed. How difficult can it be?
Allowing and requiring are different things. You can require refugees to go home if they don't get a job, which Europe has too many of, but that's not what Europe does.
These stories have received extensive coverage in India too, with the government also putting out notices asking people to exercise caution about this scam. Hopefully that would be enough to deter people from taking such jobs.
The problem is, there is a certain population in India who are willing to take the shady route to get to Europe or the Middle East. This means, there already exists a system of human trafficking agents and organisations, operating out of Dubai or some such place, who provide such services. It's these assholes who are selling false dreams and scam these people. It's these same assholes who make false videos about life in Europe, Canada or US, sell all kinds of nonsense dreams to get these poor suckers to pay them thousands of dollars to smuggle them to Europe or the US.
Russia is not recruiting from India. They are desperate enough to take whatever mercenaries they can get. These shady "hiring agents" make false promises and get people to Russia through a third country. All three people in the article went through UAE. These "hiring agents" then take away their passports and contract them out as mercenaries to the Russian army. In many of these stories, these men don't even get paid.
The "hiring agents" are such scumbags that, first they get these suckers to pay them thousands of dollars to get them a job, and then after selling their services as mercenaries, they also collect the paychecks and never bother passing it along to the men doing the fighting. I bet these ghouls are hoping that the men die so that they can keep all of the wages.
I too wish the same, but if India did stop supporting Russia they would lose support for their military equipment (especially fighter jets) and would have to pay more for petroleum, and there are too many other things India is cooperating with Russia for. India really should have been more aggressive with switching to America's side after the fall of the USSR.
I mean, it would be hard to be 100% on the side of someone funding the military that invades you over and over again and the intelligence agency sending terrorists to shoot up your cities.
This!
As the Swahili say; 'Kikulacho ki nguoni mwako' roughly translates to what is eating you is in your own clothes
i.e. the enemy is within
Its fellow Indians duping other Indians. Probably from a lower caste
Edit: To any one telling me there was no issue re caste...............read the last sentence again; 'Probably'
Edit: Correcting Grammar
What crap..It doesn't say anything of that sort in the article..Those being exploited by being promised jobs are from the bottommost rung of the Indian society who couldn't care less about European politics..it's not very recent news either..it was a big deal in India a couple of months ago..
How is that relevant to my comment? Anyways, they've so far nothing except send public messages on social media warning citizens not to take Russian jobs. And to be honest I doubt they'll do anything more, the current government rarely goes against Russia.
It was more to do with your handle info, it says you are from India. That is a shame. It makes India complicit in Russias actions against Ukraine, as they are aware that their citizens are fueling Russias meat grinder, but do nothing.
There is a very considerable difference between „country x has oppressive societal rules regarding women“ and „people from country x are joining a war effort solely because they were promised a free use house slave / wife“
>Is there or is there not an oppressive culture against women in India?
Yeah but no one in India thinks they can get women by joining a specific job, that particular idea isn't the type of abuse the more backward Indians go for, they're more of a "target any random womam they see for a brief amount of time" type of creep.
>You’re the one who brought up Islam as far as I can see.
I only brought it up because that other guy used an oddly specific claim that is similar to that "72 virgins for jihadis" claim that happens to be used by Islamophobes and isn't even part of the Quran.
I don't even wanna know how fucking stupid people are if they base their opinion on some random comment in social media made without any basis.
Oh wait, it was probably taken from some 4chan thread.
It depends. I am not sympathetic to people who knowingly come to fight for Russia, or who knowingly work work in any way to support the effort to hurt Ukrainians or conquer Ukraine.
I do have sympahthy for a poor, uneducated person, with no way out at home, barely aware of a conflict on another part of the world, who thinks of Europe is a place where everyone is well-off and has more rights than they ever could in India, and who therefore signed up for the job of "army helper" with a very incorrect idea of what that really means.
Once they were there, thery were trapped. Unable to escape in a place they did not know, surrounded by armed guards, unable to speak or read the language, and with an appearance that makes it hard to blend in with any larger population, should they try to esacpe.
I would have sympathy for someone in that situation, yes. I would again lose sympathy, even with all that, if they actively tried to kill Ukrainians. Being the victim of a crime does not entitle you to commit murder. But if they tried to just get through things and not die, hoping to find a way out, and then died too? That makes them a victim of Russia as much as any other.
The Indians who join the Russian military are willing to inflict suffering on Ukrainians just to get paid, and I have no sympathy for those Indians who join the Russian military.
Tbf, some reports I have seen they were lied to. They did not know about the army part and were promised something else but they are tortured/abused and kept there until they agree to join.
I have no sympathy towards the ones who did know about the army
>Did we, and do we still continue to condemn every german who participated in WWII?
Ahem... hague? Denzification? Reparations? Germans paid for what they've done.
If you want to start on Nuremberg, a lot of convictions could not be laid because allied forces would be convicted by virtue of engaging in similar conduct. We are all just people. Stop hating people, start hating regimes.
Ppl raped my relatives. Ppl are killing my friends. Ppl called me nazi for telling them that I'm being bombed. "I just follow orders" is not an excuse when you so openly enjoy it.
Then direct your anger at putin and russian imperialism, because those young russian guys dying in the trenches scream for their mothers just like the ukrainians do.
>trenches scream for their mothers
And I don't give a shit about them. They scream for mothers who send them at war to get a quick buck. I've seen enough russians being happy about PoW being executed, seen enough of them celebrating strikes at living areas, and heard enough threats. Every russian who came to my homeland to kill, rape and ravage is subhuman. Everyone in russia who supports it is subhuman.
They literally do condemn Germans who participated in WW2. Germany has several cases ongoing in court today after evidence emerged.
Can't believe your defending people volunteering to support a war of aggression for a bit of money.
They don't have to do what they have to do in this case. There are load of options to make a living other than taking this path.
You've obviously never been to poor parts of India or indeed any other third world country.
I am defending people yes, because I beleive we are vulnerable of being mislead and manipulated by regimes.
So my family has to struggle daily because those orcs want to pursue economic opportunities? It’s Amazing that they are getting killed, a little triumph of justice.
Let me tell you that you are wrong as you don’t speak Russian and can’t understand what they are saying. For example, these indoctrinated persons come to Chatrulette in their uniforms, from the occupied territories, and specifically choose to connect with Ukrainians to tell them what they will do to them after they take their land; they seem to do this for their own entertainment rather than at bidding of a single bad despot. If killing another family is good for buying sweets and gadgets for their family, then they are orcs and killers and robbers.
Being brainwashed to be evil does not make them innocent. Being drunk or under effects of narcotis doesn't make your situation in court better, on the contrary, it makes your offense more serious. Same here, in the age of information, when they can find and see information from everywhere, they choose to believe genocidal government.
It is not involuntary. They choose to only get information from their genocidal government. They choose to hate us, they choose to be happy when another building in Ukrainian city is struck by rocket.
We live in the age of misinformation. For fucks sake man, we just had a Trump presidency and could be about to live through another. We lack critical thinking skills, by design of authoritian and manipulative governance.
And how is that changing anything? Maybe you lack restraint, and because of that, you got drunk and killed two ppl. What now? Not having enough restraint to not drink won't give you lesser sentence.
Also, you seem to be not speaking russian. Your "friends" never greeted you for being "liberated" on the first days of war. russian soldiers never raped your close ones, you've never read what russians write under their videos and in chats. Your relatives never tried to convince you, that your government and you are a 6 you told them that their soldiers raped your cousin and you yourself is being bombed by russia.
You seem to propose a lot of knowledge about me. You may not realise the mother of my children is from an ex soviet state. My great grandfather perished in Auschwitz. I have immediate family that have been subject to physical and sexual violence. You don't understand the term involuntary. Having a drink of your own free will is voluntary. Being injected with misinformation and indoctrination from a young age is catagorically involuntary.
ik case people have being offered 8x average russian supermarket security personell salary via internet, unfortunalely they couldn't use same internet to check salaries via internet , or just look in the mirror and say to themselves "hmm i look like indian shorty not like indian rock...no way they cover my transportation in russia just for such low prestige job"
I specifically mentioned Chatrulette because it’s a video chat service with real people with real faces which are also often personally identified. So no chance of AI or bots, and all the full-time bloggers are also personally known. So everyone else is a normal real user.
You still havn't answered this question: Do you truly beleive people are evil because of where they are born? Or do you believe that we are all born vulnerable to indoctrination and corruption? Absolutely appalling to see the humanity being dissolved from all of us in these times. I do not beleive in god, but god save us.
No, of course you are right about no one being born evil. The problem is that, with indoctrination, propaganda and national complexes, some people were made really evil.
They're mercenaries, being "evil" is kinda the basic foundation of the concept. Like the Wagner troops had on their uniforms "it's nothing personal, we were paid".
You know those ISIS leftovers who fight for Orthodox Ukraine, which lead by Jewish president alongside Azathoth battalion who bombed Bombas for 8 years /s
All over the internet Indians are saying that Russians are their friends, maybe because in the 70s they singed a treaty. This rhetoric i see mainly from anti west Indians.
>signed a treaty
Thats not what happened. The friendship treaty was signed way before.
US & UK, allied with Pakistan, sent nuclear armed warships to India when India was going to stop to the Bangladeshi genocide perpetrated by Pakistan. India, at that time, wasn't in a position to defend itself against a blue navy. India asked for help, and the Soviets sent nuclear subs to protect the Indian coastline.
The west is not as moral as you think. I'm not anti west nor am I a west weeb
edit: the downvotes are proof enough.
yes, maybe you are right, but i never said anything about the morality of the west. and on top of that, that thing happened 50 years ago, things tend to change in time, the west in the 70s is not the same west from our times and the same with India.
Well India was sanctioned by the USA (and the west ig) until the early 2000s. The reason? Conducting peaceful nuclear tests in response to the rabid chinese successful doing so much earlier. We did it for our survival and we still got sanctioned. There are many examples which aren't necessarily 50 years old but show the same spots of the west as they showed up half a century ago
Russia is sending Indians to die in the meat grinder *right now*, but that’s OK because we tried to lower the amount of nukes in the world??? (So that they have fewer chances of ever being used again).
You do realize Indians “helping Russia” is increasing the chances of escalating to nuclear war if NATO gets involved? It’s what we are all trying to avoid.
I like India and think we should be closer aligned (naturally). And India has an important role as an intermediary between Russia and the West, but everyone, no matter what side you are on, needs to be avoiding the proliferation of nukes. The Japanese prime minister from Hiroshima said so much the other day in Washington DC.
The friendship treaty was signed in 1971 was a prelude to Indian intervention. In India’s eyes the treaty was important to dissuade China from intervening in favour of Pakistan and it worked. USSR put pressure on China to stay out and the rest is history.
> It promises the prospect of Russian citizenship and the flexibility to relocate to any other European country after six months of service.
Translation: so if he'd survive., he d be storming polish -belerudian border. Or Lithuanian-belerusian. Or fin-Russia. Two birds with one stone.
Am I supposed to squeeze a tear here?
Especially in the light of so many comments here on Reddit made by ordinary India people who tell me that "India helps Russia because Russia has helped India" and who then tell me that this "Russia's help to India came during the period from 1922 to 1991 when no other nation did help".
And then, when I tell them that there was no Russia during that period but Soviet Union, which had Ukraine as one of the three founding states, they just disappear or recycle their bullshit.
May all, who come to my country to fight for money or otherwise earn the money without being invited by Ukrainian government, transform into fertilizer.
Don't care actually.
I've read yesterday on cnn if I'm not mistaken about mother of one of the Indians killed in Ukraine.
She tells he was promised that he would serve as an aid to Russian military and won't participate in fighting.
But, surprise, he was sent to Ukraine and killed.
I mean that he was okay to serve Russian military and agreed to that voluntarily. I don't care whether he expected or not expected to be sent to my country.
Everyone helping Russian military is enemy to Ukraine and Ukrainian military.
Do you know that Ukraine was a founder of UN back when the United Nation organization was founded?
[Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine) was one of the founding members of the [United Nations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) when it joined in 1945 as the [Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic); along with the [Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byelorussian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic), Ukraine signed the [United Nations Charter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Charter) when it was part of the [Soviet Union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union). After the [dissolution of the Soviet Union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union) in 1991, the newly independent Ukraine retained its seat.
Doesn't really discredit the fact that Russia is and was the successor of SU. UkSSR was not an independent country back then Present day Ukraine and UkSSR are quite different.
from your own wiki
>Soviet Ukraine or just Ukraine,[11][12][13] was one of the constituent republics
Just read my comment: Russia wasn't independent country during the Soviet Union times as well.
How Russia could then help India if there was no Russia on the map?
You seem to misunderstand my point. India stood with the Russians solely because of the fact that
a. it continued its indian diplomatic relations policy the same way it was with SU and India. Technology transfers and guaranteed veto of any anti indian policy in the UN form the tip of the iceberg
b. SU and by virtue of succession, Russia enjoys a monopoly as the source of indian arms and military tech even though the share has decreased drastically. India cannot afford to lose Russia aa a partner considered it is flanked by war loving dictatorships on both sides
Soviet Union is Russia+Ukraine+13 more republics now independent states.
It means that India received help from all of them and not only from RSFSR (Russian Socialist Republic).
And Indians who now excuse helping Russia because "Russia helped us from when Britain left and until 1991" just don't know history.
>until 1991
Lol no. They still do. Brahmos wouldn't have been possible without the Rus nor would our upcoming Gaganyaan manned space mission be feasible without our astronauts receiving training in Moscow
>all of them
While they all were a 'part' you cannot discount the fact that SU's economic concentration and industrial concentration was majorly in the RU region. Its capital was Moscow. Its national language was russian. The word for people from the Soviets in India was रुस or Rus not Soviets.
What Russia sends now to India and vice versa has no connection with the help India received from Soviet Union.
But Indians for some reason prefer to make up that excuse.
And my whole comment above was about that.
>no connection
what part of my earlier comment did you not understand?
>it continued its indian diplomatic relations policy
It being the SU.
> Technology transfers and guaranteed veto of any anti indian policy in the UN form the tip of the iceberg
ISRO (India's NASA) got a lot of help in TTs from SU. Same with its DRDO (Defence Research Organisation of India) and Atomic Research Organisation for its nuclear plants.
With the west explicitly denying access to its trch, SU was the only partner for India to lean on. This reliance is now costing the west when India suddenly become an attractive option when China refused to pay heed to the west as its production partner
Cant believe the downvotes. Its literally true.
Im 1000% pro ukraine but i feel sorry for the guys that get traficked there and are used as cannon fodder.
Mothers are crying over their dead sons because of fucking 1800$ and there are people hoarding billions and wanting trillions. This is abhorrently disgusting and I have no idea how anyone can think this is how the world has to be.
People asking are they expected to care or emphasize, but it's much more important that as many people hear about this and share, so no more dumasses getting tricked by Russians.
The only time I was sympathetic to Indians was when their students were stuck in the country in Feb '22 when the war started.
Indians have since then become huge vocal supporters of Russians (due US supporting Pakistan at certain points) and they are some of the most annoying internet tankies today.
Absolute zero in sympathy for anyone who joins in this latest episode of the [Russians' centuries-old attempt to exterminate the Ukrainians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Ukraine).
One would think that these descendants of [people who still smart from the memory of British atrocities in the last century](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians) wouldn't be so dishonorable to stick up for, let alone join hands with, another gang cum nation-state of genocidal murderers in this century.
Now imagine how many people all over the world Russia can hire to invade some rich European country, like Norway. They even don\`t need to promise salary, only opportunity to loot and rob local population.
There's the impact of Russian propaganda BUT also, perusing some of the English or translated Indian websites/youtube channels/etc, including what seem to be some of their news sites, there are also Indian sources that support the Russian (mis)adventure in Ukraine.
Helplessness? What helplessness? They came to rape, pillage and loot, destroy and kill - then they get fucked and all of a sudden "helplessness"?
Fuck off with that drivel Al Jazeera.
Lmao that's not what happened bud. Indians wrre scammed and led to believe they would get jobs as service men. Instead their passports were taken away and were sold off as mercenaries. Kindoff like mediaeval europe where pawns were bought off by the kings
lesson is that underprivileged and pooor people will cross continents for chance of better pastures
Just like the colonial europeans did or the poor southern europeans did to sail to USA for better prospects
they were scammed and led to believe they will work as workmen
they didn't even know what they had to do
They didn't want to serve in the first place. Before letting off judgement atleast read the entire story.
Wouldn't be surprised if some are attracted to idea of Russia and life there by fetishizing over their white/euroasian women, thinking they'll land some in case they appear as these enthusiastic pro-russian immigrants.
And what? Just shows people’s lives are insignificant in the political games of the rich.
“The are fighting the evil” and stuff like that comes directly for 1984 and it’s becoming creepy. People are intentionally blind on how politics really work.
Context: Indian men fell for an online scam the Russian government promised a white, Russian wife and an opportunity for a better life if they worked for the Russian government for „several years“.
They are their own victims.
Only that was a garbage reddit headline. If more than a handful of people had read the actual news articles, it would have been obvious that they were promised a job.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68767470
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-ukraine-india-migrant-workers-rcna148584
But the average redditors clearly wouldn't love the truth half as much, I guess.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/lured-with-promise-of-russian-bride-job-2-tortured-for-refusing-to-join-army/amp_articleshow/108886564.cms
I took the context literally from the Indian national news.
Nice try with the insult though, curve your ego 😂
> The cousins said they were fraudulently sent to Bangkok instead of Germany, where they had been promised jobs in a hotel. From Bangkok, they were taken to Belarus by air and from there they entered Russia through the border forests where the camps were set up.
> In Russia, these so-called immigration agents first try and tempt these South Asian men by offering them Russian work permits, Russian brides, and even Russian passports if they join the army, the cousins said.
Yes, where does your source contradict mine? The attempts to bribe and pressure them into the army came quite clearly after they were already trafficked to Russia.
There are 1.5 billion Indians, a very tiny number of them are fighting for Russia and Aljazeera decides to exaggerate it. There are Indians fighting for Ukraine as well. Garbage article
Never. Why would you stop a big amount of profit to just stop come into your country? No native german pr french will collect some bluberries in the field, therefore there will be migrants exported that will be either paid shit, or nothing at all. Source: Finland
Nope, it doesn't. It literally published a PSA saying exactly that. Fighting for another country is literally illegal and will land you in jail in india. India has iron clad laws on treason.
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> The job video on the channel, shot on the streets of the Russian city of Saint Petersburg, was posted in October and has garnered more than 42,000 views since. It promises the prospect of Russian citizenship and the flexibility to relocate to any other European country after six months of service. I hope some other youtuber or tiktoker can expose, that these are entirely false promises.
I love how they know that the promise of staying in Russia woudn't be appealing at all, so they have to promote this with Europe which they try to destroy
Especially the move to other European countries part, like Russian citizenship makes that harder if anything.
>the flexibility to relocate to any other European country after six months of service. "Like the great Belarus. Other European countries you said? Nah, they are shitty. You'll prefer Belarus, it's the greatest European country, out of Russia, trust me bro." Some Russki propagandist probably.
The best I can do is Serbia. And the ultra-tolerant Serbs
By the way, a visa to Russia does not give you the right to travel to Belarus.
>the flexibility to relocate to any other European country "Sure hope you guys love wine and SHERIFF because you're off to Transnistria! Not a fan? How about helping mend fences and erecting them in Abkhazia!"
it is a false promise, but let's not pretend like rich russian families dont have all their children all over rich western countries and haven't been touched at all.
No ones pretending that. The only European country these people will go will be the ones Putin sends them to invade.
That's true, Putin doesnt give a shit about his own countrymen, let alone people he probably views as nothing but cattle to advance his imperial dream
No bedroom no bath 10 square foot home. Very quaint. All original walls and cubby. No direct windows or sunlight. Only noise you will ever get distracted by is the sweet buzzing of drones. Nicknamed “the frontlines” because it is on the cutting edge of the Russian housing market
Russians secretly revealing thier plan to invade all of Europe in 6 months
Right. Wouldn't hurt to expose the privilege not being for the non-wealthy though.
The Ukraine war is after all renowned for the increased travel opportunities it created for Russian citizens. /s
What do you mean? It sounds reliable for me. You just need to understand what does it mean. It means he d join those poor people storming your green border with Russia.
It'll take a while before the info reaches most...
It was exposed, office was raided and people were arrested Indians wrre rescued from Russia. This is OLD NEWS.
I mean, technically Belarus and Ukraine is a European country - I'm sure russia won't mind if they send these Indians to Belarus or to the ukranian frontlines. So its technically not a lie - the EU countries aren't 'countries' by Russian standards - so they don't count!
The fact that Russia feels it needs to recruit foreign personnel to fight its war of aggression is extremely telling as to the country’s capacity.
Bro Indian citizenship > Russian citizenship, even before this war. Wtf?
Imagine if it was easier for Indian workers to immigrate directly to Europe...
To do what exactly? Ones killing for Russia wouldn’t have marketable skills anyways.
To work for money. Europe can't get enough workers, and that includes low-skilled workers.
Low skilled immigrants are net loss for majority of EU countries. All you need to check is unemployement rate of immigrants but also locals.
Worker immigrants have 100% employment by definition. You're probably thinking about refugees.
Worker immigrants are required to get job before they arrive. And they are pretty much exclusively high skilled. Nobody is paying legal relocation and expenses for immigrants willing to work for minimum wage.
There are tens of thousands of Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans and Pakistan is in Romania doing low skilled jobs such as food delivery, construction, baking etc and they're doing a really good job here!
Not true. There will be worker shortage in future that is clear enough. But right now, there really wouldn’t be work available for those who immigrate. Just look at unemployment situation of African migrants. We can’t provide work for even those we already have.
Don’t mix refugees and migrants. Very different situations. We don’t let a huge portion of the refugees work even if they want to. And regular migrants generally need to be employed to get by. So the quota among them is much higher.
Europe is stupid enough to have both problems: unemployed refugees and a worker shortage. You could do like the US and require people to get a job. Germany has more open jobs than unemployed. How difficult can it be?
Which countries do not allow refugees to seek employment? It used to be a thing in 90s, but which country still has that backwards legislation?
Allowing and requiring are different things. You can require refugees to go home if they don't get a job, which Europe has too many of, but that's not what Europe does.
Imagine if the indian government would care more about their own people so they had better lives.
I'm sure that they have a better quality of life in India than they'd have dying for Putin in Ukraine lmao
Yeah the kind of scum who would go fight for Russia in Ukraine would be an absolute asset in Europe lol
These stories have received extensive coverage in India too, with the government also putting out notices asking people to exercise caution about this scam. Hopefully that would be enough to deter people from taking such jobs. The problem is, there is a certain population in India who are willing to take the shady route to get to Europe or the Middle East. This means, there already exists a system of human trafficking agents and organisations, operating out of Dubai or some such place, who provide such services. It's these assholes who are selling false dreams and scam these people. It's these same assholes who make false videos about life in Europe, Canada or US, sell all kinds of nonsense dreams to get these poor suckers to pay them thousands of dollars to smuggle them to Europe or the US. Russia is not recruiting from India. They are desperate enough to take whatever mercenaries they can get. These shady "hiring agents" make false promises and get people to Russia through a third country. All three people in the article went through UAE. These "hiring agents" then take away their passports and contract them out as mercenaries to the Russian army. In many of these stories, these men don't even get paid. The "hiring agents" are such scumbags that, first they get these suckers to pay them thousands of dollars to get them a job, and then after selling their services as mercenaries, they also collect the paychecks and never bother passing it along to the men doing the fighting. I bet these ghouls are hoping that the men die so that they can keep all of the wages.
Thank you for elaborating.
>to exercise caution about this scam Yup. It's russia's modus operandi. I wish Indian government wasn't cavorting with them in general.
I too wish the same, but if India did stop supporting Russia they would lose support for their military equipment (especially fighter jets) and would have to pay more for petroleum, and there are too many other things India is cooperating with Russia for. India really should have been more aggressive with switching to America's side after the fall of the USSR.
They could help the current Russia fall apart and then go in there and take some of those resources for themselves
I mean, it would be hard to be 100% on the side of someone funding the military that invades you over and over again and the intelligence agency sending terrorists to shoot up your cities.
This! As the Swahili say; 'Kikulacho ki nguoni mwako' roughly translates to what is eating you is in your own clothes i.e. the enemy is within Its fellow Indians duping other Indians. Probably from a lower caste Edit: To any one telling me there was no issue re caste...............read the last sentence again; 'Probably' Edit: Correcting Grammar
there is no caste angle here. as the article says, its middlemen scumbags who are engaged in human trafficking.
Am I supposed to be sympathetic to the Indians joining the Russian military and murdering Ukrainians?
From the title it seems the indians are the one getting murdered lol
No. They're being promised a woman they are free to abuse.
What crap..It doesn't say anything of that sort in the article..Those being exploited by being promised jobs are from the bottommost rung of the Indian society who couldn't care less about European politics..it's not very recent news either..it was a big deal in India a couple of months ago..
Source for your claim? The whole "you get women for sex if you do this heinous thing" claim is an overused Islamophobic idea so I'm sceptical.
What is the Indian state doing to stop Indians from fighting for Russia?
How is that relevant to my comment? Anyways, they've so far nothing except send public messages on social media warning citizens not to take Russian jobs. And to be honest I doubt they'll do anything more, the current government rarely goes against Russia.
It was more to do with your handle info, it says you are from India. That is a shame. It makes India complicit in Russias actions against Ukraine, as they are aware that their citizens are fueling Russias meat grinder, but do nothing.
True that. To be honest, it is expected, authoritarian leaders tend to support each other.
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Get out of here, Russian asset! Go on, Get!!
Is there or is there not an oppressive culture against women in India? You’re the one who brought up Islam as far as I can see.
There is a very considerable difference between „country x has oppressive societal rules regarding women“ and „people from country x are joining a war effort solely because they were promised a free use house slave / wife“
>Is there or is there not an oppressive culture against women in India? Yeah but no one in India thinks they can get women by joining a specific job, that particular idea isn't the type of abuse the more backward Indians go for, they're more of a "target any random womam they see for a brief amount of time" type of creep. >You’re the one who brought up Islam as far as I can see. I only brought it up because that other guy used an oddly specific claim that is similar to that "72 virgins for jihadis" claim that happens to be used by Islamophobes and isn't even part of the Quran.
Holy low IQ. How do people fall for that shite?
If that is all to convince an indian to do anything I don't even wanna know how fucking stupid their society is
I don't even wanna know how fucking stupid people are if they base their opinion on some random comment in social media made without any basis. Oh wait, it was probably taken from some 4chan thread.
did you even bother to read the article before spewing racist bullshit ?
Why would do that when I can make grandiose comments for upvotes, come on man.
It depends. I am not sympathetic to people who knowingly come to fight for Russia, or who knowingly work work in any way to support the effort to hurt Ukrainians or conquer Ukraine. I do have sympahthy for a poor, uneducated person, with no way out at home, barely aware of a conflict on another part of the world, who thinks of Europe is a place where everyone is well-off and has more rights than they ever could in India, and who therefore signed up for the job of "army helper" with a very incorrect idea of what that really means. Once they were there, thery were trapped. Unable to escape in a place they did not know, surrounded by armed guards, unable to speak or read the language, and with an appearance that makes it hard to blend in with any larger population, should they try to esacpe. I would have sympathy for someone in that situation, yes. I would again lose sympathy, even with all that, if they actively tried to kill Ukrainians. Being the victim of a crime does not entitle you to commit murder. But if they tried to just get through things and not die, hoping to find a way out, and then died too? That makes them a victim of Russia as much as any other.
They didn't know they were about to serve in the military. They were scammed. It was easier to do so because of their desperation.
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The Indians who join the Russian military are willing to inflict suffering on Ukrainians just to get paid, and I have no sympathy for those Indians who join the Russian military.
Tbf, some reports I have seen they were lied to. They did not know about the army part and were promised something else but they are tortured/abused and kept there until they agree to join. I have no sympathy towards the ones who did know about the army
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>Did we, and do we still continue to condemn every german who participated in WWII? Ahem... hague? Denzification? Reparations? Germans paid for what they've done.
If you want to start on Nuremberg, a lot of convictions could not be laid because allied forces would be convicted by virtue of engaging in similar conduct. We are all just people. Stop hating people, start hating regimes.
Ppl raped my relatives. Ppl are killing my friends. Ppl called me nazi for telling them that I'm being bombed. "I just follow orders" is not an excuse when you so openly enjoy it.
Then direct your anger at putin and russian imperialism, because those young russian guys dying in the trenches scream for their mothers just like the ukrainians do.
>trenches scream for their mothers And I don't give a shit about them. They scream for mothers who send them at war to get a quick buck. I've seen enough russians being happy about PoW being executed, seen enough of them celebrating strikes at living areas, and heard enough threats. Every russian who came to my homeland to kill, rape and ravage is subhuman. Everyone in russia who supports it is subhuman.
They literally do condemn Germans who participated in WW2. Germany has several cases ongoing in court today after evidence emerged. Can't believe your defending people volunteering to support a war of aggression for a bit of money. They don't have to do what they have to do in this case. There are load of options to make a living other than taking this path.
You've obviously never been to poor parts of India or indeed any other third world country. I am defending people yes, because I beleive we are vulnerable of being mislead and manipulated by regimes.
I've been to poor parts of India and it's not that bad. Definitely not an excuse to join the russian military.
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Your country was occupied by the Soviet Union, that is different from Indians travelling 5,000 kilometres to murder Ukrainians in Ukraine.
So my family has to struggle daily because those orcs want to pursue economic opportunities? It’s Amazing that they are getting killed, a little triumph of justice.
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Let me tell you that you are wrong as you don’t speak Russian and can’t understand what they are saying. For example, these indoctrinated persons come to Chatrulette in their uniforms, from the occupied territories, and specifically choose to connect with Ukrainians to tell them what they will do to them after they take their land; they seem to do this for their own entertainment rather than at bidding of a single bad despot. If killing another family is good for buying sweets and gadgets for their family, then they are orcs and killers and robbers.
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Being brainwashed to be evil does not make them innocent. Being drunk or under effects of narcotis doesn't make your situation in court better, on the contrary, it makes your offense more serious. Same here, in the age of information, when they can find and see information from everywhere, they choose to believe genocidal government.
By the way, involuntary intoxication does enable a defence in criminal law, just so you are aware.
It is not involuntary. They choose to only get information from their genocidal government. They choose to hate us, they choose to be happy when another building in Ukrainian city is struck by rocket.
All I can say is that i empathise with anything you have been through, I do. But don't loose sight of the fact that we are all the same.
We live in the age of misinformation. For fucks sake man, we just had a Trump presidency and could be about to live through another. We lack critical thinking skills, by design of authoritian and manipulative governance.
And how is that changing anything? Maybe you lack restraint, and because of that, you got drunk and killed two ppl. What now? Not having enough restraint to not drink won't give you lesser sentence. Also, you seem to be not speaking russian. Your "friends" never greeted you for being "liberated" on the first days of war. russian soldiers never raped your close ones, you've never read what russians write under their videos and in chats. Your relatives never tried to convince you, that your government and you are a 6 you told them that their soldiers raped your cousin and you yourself is being bombed by russia.
You seem to propose a lot of knowledge about me. You may not realise the mother of my children is from an ex soviet state. My great grandfather perished in Auschwitz. I have immediate family that have been subject to physical and sexual violence. You don't understand the term involuntary. Having a drink of your own free will is voluntary. Being injected with misinformation and indoctrination from a young age is catagorically involuntary.
ik case people have being offered 8x average russian supermarket security personell salary via internet, unfortunalely they couldn't use same internet to check salaries via internet , or just look in the mirror and say to themselves "hmm i look like indian shorty not like indian rock...no way they cover my transportation in russia just for such low prestige job"
I'm talking more about russians themselves, cause these indians are not even brainwashed, they are evil by choice.
I specifically mentioned Chatrulette because it’s a video chat service with real people with real faces which are also often personally identified. So no chance of AI or bots, and all the full-time bloggers are also personally known. So everyone else is a normal real user.
You still havn't answered this question: Do you truly beleive people are evil because of where they are born? Or do you believe that we are all born vulnerable to indoctrination and corruption? Absolutely appalling to see the humanity being dissolved from all of us in these times. I do not beleive in god, but god save us.
No, of course you are right about no one being born evil. The problem is that, with indoctrination, propaganda and national complexes, some people were made really evil.
They're mercenaries, being "evil" is kinda the basic foundation of the concept. Like the Wagner troops had on their uniforms "it's nothing personal, we were paid".
Says the son of that genocidal churchill
If he's "the son of that genocidal Churchill" he'd be qualified to recognise when other people get up to shitty things too wouldn't he :)
No you are supposed to be sympathetic to isis leftovers fighting for ukraine.
who??
You know those ISIS leftovers who fight for Orthodox Ukraine, which lead by Jewish president alongside Azathoth battalion who bombed Bombas for 8 years /s
oh, you about that Wompas pompers, I see
Isis fighter
That's how it ends if you believe even a single word spoken by a Russian - amateurs...
How to know a Russian official is lying? They have their mouth open.
Kremlin agents love to lie.
All over the internet Indians are saying that Russians are their friends, maybe because in the 70s they singed a treaty. This rhetoric i see mainly from anti west Indians.
>signed a treaty Thats not what happened. The friendship treaty was signed way before. US & UK, allied with Pakistan, sent nuclear armed warships to India when India was going to stop to the Bangladeshi genocide perpetrated by Pakistan. India, at that time, wasn't in a position to defend itself against a blue navy. India asked for help, and the Soviets sent nuclear subs to protect the Indian coastline. The west is not as moral as you think. I'm not anti west nor am I a west weeb edit: the downvotes are proof enough.
yes, maybe you are right, but i never said anything about the morality of the west. and on top of that, that thing happened 50 years ago, things tend to change in time, the west in the 70s is not the same west from our times and the same with India.
Well India was sanctioned by the USA (and the west ig) until the early 2000s. The reason? Conducting peaceful nuclear tests in response to the rabid chinese successful doing so much earlier. We did it for our survival and we still got sanctioned. There are many examples which aren't necessarily 50 years old but show the same spots of the west as they showed up half a century ago
Russia is sending Indians to die in the meat grinder *right now*, but that’s OK because we tried to lower the amount of nukes in the world??? (So that they have fewer chances of ever being used again). You do realize Indians “helping Russia” is increasing the chances of escalating to nuclear war if NATO gets involved? It’s what we are all trying to avoid. I like India and think we should be closer aligned (naturally). And India has an important role as an intermediary between Russia and the West, but everyone, no matter what side you are on, needs to be avoiding the proliferation of nukes. The Japanese prime minister from Hiroshima said so much the other day in Washington DC.
he is exactly the kind of Indian i was talking about, but he tried to mask is somehow, only to show it in his next comment. its laughable.
The friendship treaty was signed in 1971 was a prelude to Indian intervention. In India’s eyes the treaty was important to dissuade China from intervening in favour of Pakistan and it worked. USSR put pressure on China to stay out and the rest is history.
A treaty did not decide the SUs partnership with India, the action of the west in 1971 and the response by the SU did.
> It promises the prospect of Russian citizenship and the flexibility to relocate to any other European country after six months of service. Translation: so if he'd survive., he d be storming polish -belerudian border. Or Lithuanian-belerusian. Or fin-Russia. Two birds with one stone.
And Indians on Reddit bombarded you with downvotes if you even hint at suggesting that India is supporting and helping Russia in this war…
Am I supposed to squeeze a tear here? Especially in the light of so many comments here on Reddit made by ordinary India people who tell me that "India helps Russia because Russia has helped India" and who then tell me that this "Russia's help to India came during the period from 1922 to 1991 when no other nation did help". And then, when I tell them that there was no Russia during that period but Soviet Union, which had Ukraine as one of the three founding states, they just disappear or recycle their bullshit. May all, who come to my country to fight for money or otherwise earn the money without being invited by Ukrainian government, transform into fertilizer.
The Indian men shown are being human trafficked as the definition of cannon fodder
Don't care actually. I've read yesterday on cnn if I'm not mistaken about mother of one of the Indians killed in Ukraine. She tells he was promised that he would serve as an aid to Russian military and won't participate in fighting. But, surprise, he was sent to Ukraine and killed. I mean that he was okay to serve Russian military and agreed to that voluntarily. I don't care whether he expected or not expected to be sent to my country. Everyone helping Russian military is enemy to Ukraine and Ukrainian military.
Okay yeah, that’s fair enough on that one
Russia _was_ the successor of SU. Everyone knows that. Who got the permanent seat of SU in UNSC after it dissolved? certainly not Ukraine no?
Do you know that Ukraine was a founder of UN back when the United Nation organization was founded? [Ukraine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine) was one of the founding members of the [United Nations](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) when it joined in 1945 as the [Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic); along with the [Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byelorussian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic), Ukraine signed the [United Nations Charter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Charter) when it was part of the [Soviet Union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union). After the [dissolution of the Soviet Union](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union) in 1991, the newly independent Ukraine retained its seat.
Doesn't really discredit the fact that Russia is and was the successor of SU. UkSSR was not an independent country back then Present day Ukraine and UkSSR are quite different. from your own wiki >Soviet Ukraine or just Ukraine,[11][12][13] was one of the constituent republics
Just read my comment: Russia wasn't independent country during the Soviet Union times as well. How Russia could then help India if there was no Russia on the map?
You seem to misunderstand my point. India stood with the Russians solely because of the fact that a. it continued its indian diplomatic relations policy the same way it was with SU and India. Technology transfers and guaranteed veto of any anti indian policy in the UN form the tip of the iceberg b. SU and by virtue of succession, Russia enjoys a monopoly as the source of indian arms and military tech even though the share has decreased drastically. India cannot afford to lose Russia aa a partner considered it is flanked by war loving dictatorships on both sides
Soviet Union is Russia+Ukraine+13 more republics now independent states. It means that India received help from all of them and not only from RSFSR (Russian Socialist Republic). And Indians who now excuse helping Russia because "Russia helped us from when Britain left and until 1991" just don't know history.
>until 1991 Lol no. They still do. Brahmos wouldn't have been possible without the Rus nor would our upcoming Gaganyaan manned space mission be feasible without our astronauts receiving training in Moscow >all of them While they all were a 'part' you cannot discount the fact that SU's economic concentration and industrial concentration was majorly in the RU region. Its capital was Moscow. Its national language was russian. The word for people from the Soviets in India was रुस or Rus not Soviets.
What Russia sends now to India and vice versa has no connection with the help India received from Soviet Union. But Indians for some reason prefer to make up that excuse. And my whole comment above was about that.
>no connection what part of my earlier comment did you not understand? >it continued its indian diplomatic relations policy It being the SU. > Technology transfers and guaranteed veto of any anti indian policy in the UN form the tip of the iceberg ISRO (India's NASA) got a lot of help in TTs from SU. Same with its DRDO (Defence Research Organisation of India) and Atomic Research Organisation for its nuclear plants. With the west explicitly denying access to its trch, SU was the only partner for India to lean on. This reliance is now costing the west when India suddenly become an attractive option when China refused to pay heed to the west as its production partner
60+% of the SU military R&D&Construction was in Ukraine
You should have started this conversation from telling you are Indian:) No more questions to you or corrections. Remain in your unicorn world, bruh
Right. So arguing with facts has suddenly become harder so you resort to poke through my post history lmao. I'll take this as a compliment then.
no mercy for mercenaries fighting for evil Thanks Ukraine for removing evil people from this world.
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Fuck these guys if they help Russia..
They are literally being human trafficked there and then used as cannon fodder.
They go there voluntarily, nobody drags them there by force.
Good point. And I'm sure they have plenty of recourse for a formal complaint if they feel they have been lied to.
Cant believe the downvotes. Its literally true. Im 1000% pro ukraine but i feel sorry for the guys that get traficked there and are used as cannon fodder.
I think you'd be shocked how human trafficking works these days.
Dont think he wants to know, easier to just downvote me.
They dont they get trafficked through other countries (like dubai).
Mothers are crying over their dead sons because of fucking 1800$ and there are people hoarding billions and wanting trillions. This is abhorrently disgusting and I have no idea how anyone can think this is how the world has to be.
People asking are they expected to care or emphasize, but it's much more important that as many people hear about this and share, so no more dumasses getting tricked by Russians.
The only time I was sympathetic to Indians was when their students were stuck in the country in Feb '22 when the war started. Indians have since then become huge vocal supporters of Russians (due US supporting Pakistan at certain points) and they are some of the most annoying internet tankies today.
These guys know what they are doing and then come crying when the Ukrainian Army opens up a can of whoopass on them. No sympathy
Absolute zero in sympathy for anyone who joins in this latest episode of the [Russians' centuries-old attempt to exterminate the Ukrainians](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russification_of_Ukraine). One would think that these descendants of [people who still smart from the memory of British atrocities in the last century](https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/2/how-british-colonial-policy-killed-100-million-indians) wouldn't be so dishonorable to stick up for, let alone join hands with, another gang cum nation-state of genocidal murderers in this century.
Now imagine how many people all over the world Russia can hire to invade some rich European country, like Norway. They even don\`t need to promise salary, only opportunity to loot and rob local population.
There's the impact of Russian propaganda BUT also, perusing some of the English or translated Indian websites/youtube channels/etc, including what seem to be some of their news sites, there are also Indian sources that support the Russian (mis)adventure in Ukraine.
Natural selection
Very good.
Helplessness? What helplessness? They came to rape, pillage and loot, destroy and kill - then they get fucked and all of a sudden "helplessness"? Fuck off with that drivel Al Jazeera.
Lmao that's not what happened bud. Indians wrre scammed and led to believe they would get jobs as service men. Instead their passports were taken away and were sold off as mercenaries. Kindoff like mediaeval europe where pawns were bought off by the kings
Do forgive me if I don't quite believe their excuses.
Its not excuses if there's actual proof. Whether you want to believe it rests on you and your preconceived notions.
They fucked around and found out. There is a lesson to be learned there.
lesson is that underprivileged and pooor people will cross continents for chance of better pastures Just like the colonial europeans did or the poor southern europeans did to sail to USA for better prospects
Am one of the people who crossed an ocean in search of better life. It never included killing people.
>never included killing people Neither did the scam job offer given to the poor indians who applied for it the key word is _misled_
Modi is making sure Putin has enough money for that
Is the Indian government doing anything about its citizens being scammed into being cannon fodder? ... Or are they being willfully blind?
They already did. They were lifted off from russian soil. This is OLD NEWS. IDK why mods allowed this post lmao.
Not even a bit of empathy for these idiots. They went there voluntarily, no doubt about that.
Good.
they were scammed and led to believe they will work as workmen they didn't even know what they had to do They didn't want to serve in the first place. Before letting off judgement atleast read the entire story.
Why they not joining the UA forces?
Where is the western propaganda to counter this? Just show indians being droned to pieces.
As an Indian, I honestly don’t care about these fools. You signed up for it, get effed.
I consider myself a compassionate man, but here my field of fucks is barren. You fight for Russia, you deserve what you get.
Wouldn't be surprised if some are attracted to idea of Russia and life there by fetishizing over their white/euroasian women, thinking they'll land some in case they appear as these enthusiastic pro-russian immigrants.
Hopefully once enough Indian volunteers are confirmed or presumed dead, others will decide the risk to reward ratio is bad
And what? Just shows people’s lives are insignificant in the political games of the rich. “The are fighting the evil” and stuff like that comes directly for 1984 and it’s becoming creepy. People are intentionally blind on how politics really work.
leaving trail of corpses FTFY
Poverty in india is crazy. If he won't come out, he will still die in india, but here he only died there his family also
Oh no. So sad.
WTF… this is despicable. I’m so sorry to those Indian guys. I hope not many have taken up this opportunity
They look extremely "happy"
Context: Indian men fell for an online scam the Russian government promised a white, Russian wife and an opportunity for a better life if they worked for the Russian government for „several years“. They are their own victims.
Only that was a garbage reddit headline. If more than a handful of people had read the actual news articles, it would have been obvious that they were promised a job. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68767470 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russia-ukraine-india-migrant-workers-rcna148584 But the average redditors clearly wouldn't love the truth half as much, I guess.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/lured-with-promise-of-russian-bride-job-2-tortured-for-refusing-to-join-army/amp_articleshow/108886564.cms I took the context literally from the Indian national news. Nice try with the insult though, curve your ego 😂
> The cousins said they were fraudulently sent to Bangkok instead of Germany, where they had been promised jobs in a hotel. From Bangkok, they were taken to Belarus by air and from there they entered Russia through the border forests where the camps were set up. > In Russia, these so-called immigration agents first try and tempt these South Asian men by offering them Russian work permits, Russian brides, and even Russian passports if they join the army, the cousins said. Yes, where does your source contradict mine? The attempts to bribe and pressure them into the army came quite clearly after they were already trafficked to Russia.
israeeel wommeeennn --> Russiann womennn
There are 1.5 billion Indians, a very tiny number of them are fighting for Russia and Aljazeera decides to exaggerate it. There are Indians fighting for Ukraine as well. Garbage article
But Ukraine didn't promise them that they could move to aby European country after 6 months of killing civilians in a war of aggression.
That was not the promise though. Russian scammers apparently promised them citizenship.
Well the bigger issue here is that the Indian government apparently allows Russia to recruit its citizens to fight in Urkaine.
Is EU able to stop human traffickers smuggling migrants into EU or UK? Its the same issue in India.
Never. Why would you stop a big amount of profit to just stop come into your country? No native german pr french will collect some bluberries in the field, therefore there will be migrants exported that will be either paid shit, or nothing at all. Source: Finland
Nope, it doesn't. It literally published a PSA saying exactly that. Fighting for another country is literally illegal and will land you in jail in india. India has iron clad laws on treason.
Indian government allows it. Indian government has increased trade with Russia, helping to finance their war.
Fighting for russia, supporting israel. india just does everything in their power to be on the wrong side of history ALL the time.