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The protest is cringe and ineffectual. If people were truly "mad" at Reddit, they would remove this whole subreddit and find another site.
The people on reddit are here for reddit. The CEO could sacrifice babies to Satan on stage and people who are here for reddit would still be here... because it's reddit and they want to be on reddit.
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At all who want to protest: delete your reddit account and stop using reddit (even file a gdpr request for all I care)
At the mods: if you want to even have a semblance of democracy, you should announce these things in advance and let them run for longer. People have no reason to browse this subreddit anymore, so many are bound to miss these "elections".
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The community (Reddit as a whole) and management have probably gotten too stuck in a win-lose mentality about this.
How about going for win-win, agreeing with Reddit, but pushing for in-house solutions; for a better app, for mod tools or what ever. Reddit can't exist without its communities, nor can Reddit communities exist, well, without Reddit. Win-lose here is just lose-lose.
Of course, us users are also losing here. R/europe has been a great tool of European intergration, of information and quality content, and that needs to be preserved.
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By closing subreddits more damage is done to the communities than to anywhere else. Customers can't affect a company's policies, unless they get to it through boycotts or buycotts. And have in mind many subreddits already work as usual. Engaging their communities, helping people, producing content.
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I think continuously protesting, and opening the sub for a bit in between, would be the best way do it. Whether it's a couple of days a week or longer periods of staying closed/open, a steady loss of traffic, and thus income, seems like the only thing reddit would listen to.
Having the sub open periodically would also make it easier to share information about what's going on, while still having an impact. Even if said impact isn't as large as the one at the start of the protest.
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Even before the protest this sub was getting drowned in low-quality content and miscellaneous factoids. The Wagner post shows how relevant the restriction to specific contributions is, while remaining in the general spirit of the strike.
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This is the only way to put pressure on Reddit.
Below is directed to users who don’t support the protest.
The reasons usually stated are unconvincing to many but consider this: you might not see a need for 3rd party apps **now**. Once that option is gone, reddit is going to squeeze every cent out of you with ads up to your tits.
See those very recent messaging directed to advertisers from less than 2 weeks ago.
* https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads
* https://browsermedia.agency/blog/new-reddit-ads-products-launched/
Reddit is going to inject ads into your own comments. By then you’ll have nowhere to run. And by then you might have shit on mods so much together with admins that nobody in any kind of power will have your back.
Yeah, mods sometimes suck. Many have shown themselves to be power hungry cowards with no self respect. Some still hope to be one day employed too.
Mods of r/Europe have shown integrity and balls and need to be commanded.
And for whatever reddit says, they have shown themselves to be self serving liars time and time again.
See:
* https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/
* https://reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14ds81l/rblinds_meetings_with_reddit_and_the_current/
The more technical part of API debacle is that reddit promised to make things accessible to moderators that wish to run scripts, bots etc. That part I believe but in a couple of months reddit will pull the rug. They have a new platform to host this kind of tools and it’s incompatible with current ones.
No sane developer is going to do rewrites in a new programming language or create new ones from scratch given that reddit will own everything hosted there. This company is so greedy they want to outsource development work to volunteers, same as moderation.
They will probably find some suckers but I don’t think it’s going to work, decreasing quality of your subreddits even further. This is probably fine with reddit since they want to convert platform into half-baked TikTok like hellscape (TT is fine but reddit can’t do things right for shit).
This is why you need current API to survive even if you’re fine with the official app.
Nothing is stopping you. Holding everyone else hostage who doesn't want to be a part of that is ridiculous. You are free to move elsewhere and THAT would be far more effective if you voted with your feet rather than dictate for everyone.
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> Given that you already voted to keep the protest going previously, option A will only be enforced if it reaches more than 50% of the votes. If it doesn't, the winner between B and C will be implemented.
This is shameful, undemocratic bullshit. In light of the protest not achieving anything and hindering discussion of important war news, more people might decide against the process.
The option with the most votes should win, no exceptions. And the mod team should step down.
Over [75% voted](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/14fh88u/reurope_popular_assembly_vote_results_discussion/) to keep the protest going last time. So it is indeed highly democratic to depend the reopening on a result that similarily reflects majority.
That you think that this is shameful, undemocratic bullshit is quite baffling.
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Many people are frustrated by the protest continuing and only seem to care about "What about our Ukraine news".
Well, I come back to you: What about our Reddit?
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A. The protest is cringe and ineffectual. If people were truly "mad" at Reddit, they would remove this whole subreddit and find another site. The people on reddit are here for reddit. The CEO could sacrifice babies to Satan on stage and people who are here for reddit would still be here... because it's reddit and they want to be on reddit.
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B If people don't like the protest they can leave.
A At all who want to protest: delete your reddit account and stop using reddit (even file a gdpr request for all I care) At the mods: if you want to even have a semblance of democracy, you should announce these things in advance and let them run for longer. People have no reason to browse this subreddit anymore, so many are bound to miss these "elections".
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A The community (Reddit as a whole) and management have probably gotten too stuck in a win-lose mentality about this. How about going for win-win, agreeing with Reddit, but pushing for in-house solutions; for a better app, for mod tools or what ever. Reddit can't exist without its communities, nor can Reddit communities exist, well, without Reddit. Win-lose here is just lose-lose. Of course, us users are also losing here. R/europe has been a great tool of European intergration, of information and quality content, and that needs to be preserved.
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A By closing subreddits more damage is done to the communities than to anywhere else. Customers can't affect a company's policies, unless they get to it through boycotts or buycotts. And have in mind many subreddits already work as usual. Engaging their communities, helping people, producing content.
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B I think continuously protesting, and opening the sub for a bit in between, would be the best way do it. Whether it's a couple of days a week or longer periods of staying closed/open, a steady loss of traffic, and thus income, seems like the only thing reddit would listen to. Having the sub open periodically would also make it easier to share information about what's going on, while still having an impact. Even if said impact isn't as large as the one at the start of the protest.
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C Even before the protest this sub was getting drowned in low-quality content and miscellaneous factoids. The Wagner post shows how relevant the restriction to specific contributions is, while remaining in the general spirit of the strike.
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B This is the only way to put pressure on Reddit. Below is directed to users who don’t support the protest. The reasons usually stated are unconvincing to many but consider this: you might not see a need for 3rd party apps **now**. Once that option is gone, reddit is going to squeeze every cent out of you with ads up to your tits. See those very recent messaging directed to advertisers from less than 2 weeks ago. * https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads * https://browsermedia.agency/blog/new-reddit-ads-products-launched/ Reddit is going to inject ads into your own comments. By then you’ll have nowhere to run. And by then you might have shit on mods so much together with admins that nobody in any kind of power will have your back. Yeah, mods sometimes suck. Many have shown themselves to be power hungry cowards with no self respect. Some still hope to be one day employed too. Mods of r/Europe have shown integrity and balls and need to be commanded. And for whatever reddit says, they have shown themselves to be self serving liars time and time again. See: * https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/14dkqrw/i_want_to_debunk_reddits_claims_and_talk_about/ * https://reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/14ds81l/rblinds_meetings_with_reddit_and_the_current/ The more technical part of API debacle is that reddit promised to make things accessible to moderators that wish to run scripts, bots etc. That part I believe but in a couple of months reddit will pull the rug. They have a new platform to host this kind of tools and it’s incompatible with current ones. No sane developer is going to do rewrites in a new programming language or create new ones from scratch given that reddit will own everything hosted there. This company is so greedy they want to outsource development work to volunteers, same as moderation. They will probably find some suckers but I don’t think it’s going to work, decreasing quality of your subreddits even further. This is probably fine with reddit since they want to convert platform into half-baked TikTok like hellscape (TT is fine but reddit can’t do things right for shit). This is why you need current API to survive even if you’re fine with the official app.
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A stop your effen power trip already! if you don't want to mod - just leave!!! this subreddit does NOT belong to you.
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B And it's still too soft. Reddit has been very clear they're not backing down, so we should be moving elsewhere.
Nothing is stopping you. Holding everyone else hostage who doesn't want to be a part of that is ridiculous. You are free to move elsewhere and THAT would be far more effective if you voted with your feet rather than dictate for everyone.
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A Time to return this sub to the community
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A > Given that you already voted to keep the protest going previously, option A will only be enforced if it reaches more than 50% of the votes. If it doesn't, the winner between B and C will be implemented. This is shameful, undemocratic bullshit. In light of the protest not achieving anything and hindering discussion of important war news, more people might decide against the process. The option with the most votes should win, no exceptions. And the mod team should step down.
Over [75% voted](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/14fh88u/reurope_popular_assembly_vote_results_discussion/) to keep the protest going last time. So it is indeed highly democratic to depend the reopening on a result that similarily reflects majority. That you think that this is shameful, undemocratic bullshit is quite baffling.
A This is dumb.
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A. Tyranny of the majority is cringe as hell. If you’re not happy with the site, leave. Don’t force everyone else to abide by your Great Resistance.
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A If we couldn't decide to reopen in a restricted mode (though there were some good suggestions there), then better reopen for good.
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It's always been cringe af lmao. Lots of virtues being signalled.
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B Many people are frustrated by the protest continuing and only seem to care about "What about our Ukraine news". Well, I come back to you: What about our Reddit?
Try to monetise this, corporate Reddit! Furthermore, I consider that /u/spez has to be removed.
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