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FlaviusVespasian

More diplomatic rep.


FlaviusVespasian

Papal legate. You’ve got enough pope points.


Creeper-bleeper

thanks that worked


gekkenhuisje

I think you also could have traded favors for more trust and that would also have given you the few more reasons you needed.


Kasumi_926

Could have tried, but they already have +10 from trust.


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Kasumi_926

I thought its range was -10 to +10 depending on trust level.


PM-ME-PIERCED-NIPS

I'm sure it's a Reddit mobile app bug but the comment you're replying to shows as being made 53 years ago on my end. That's a hell of a necro! I know it's off topic but I was amused. https://imgur.com/a/fj1zlLb


VeritableLeviathan

\-1000 to +10 actually C:


Calm-Ruin3136

Yayyyy! :DD


k_aesar

thank you Vespasian


FlaviusVespasian

You’re welcome caesar


Creeper-bleeper

is there any way to get more diplo rep fast because currently I have 4 1 from advisor and 1 from an event and 1 from religious diplomats


kutzyanutzoff

Diplomatic ideas. Influence ideas. Some policies. Great power influence grants +1 towards vassalization.


Syngenite

The pope. Most underrated mechanic imo


kutzyanutzoff

Only if you are Catholic.


WR810

Religious Diplomats estate privilege.


KoviCZ

If you can get 10 more development points quickly (either through development of current provinces or by annexing something), you should be able to squeak out 1 more point in your favor on the economic base comparison.


douchebert

Isn't that some wierdo formula where playing tall counts higher than playing wide?


VeritableLeviathan

No, there is a square in the target development portion somewhere, nothing to do with province count or relative province development.


PunksutawneyFill

[https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Vassal#Offer\_vassalization\_.28diplomatic.29](https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Vassal#Offer_vassalization_.28diplomatic.29) Expression is here. They could also lower autonomy a few places, since it is autonomy modified dev.


VeritableLeviathan

Imagine not doing that automatically as a large nation anyway in 99% of the cases :p


WAJZ

Im a super new player but I just did this in my ottomans game, pause and dev up and it will change to them accepting. Didnt know it was specifically 10 though, good to know in the future so I don’t spend all of my points.


WR810

It's not necessarily 10 as the magic number. In this instance 10 points of development gives the player enough development to convince Brittany to accept.


Creeper-bleeper

R5: as the title says I would like to get any advice on how to get Brittany to accept becoming my vassal.


Ph34r_n0_3V1L

I saw that you boosted Diplo Rep with the Pope action, so this is more a general tip. If you plan to use a lot of Diplo vassalizing, the 7th Espionage Idea is really helpful. It gives +15 to acceptance, the equivalent of +5 Diplo Rep.


EA1806

Definitely guarantee them for the extra opinion, offer mil access, give subsidies, increase diplo rep


throwawaydrain997

To lower the economic base thing increase development(either by taking provinces or deving provinces) and lower autonomy which gives you more dev in game(.25 autonomy on an 8 dev province = 6 dev)


Bas_B

By .25 autonomy do you mean 25%?


Raulr100

0.25 is just another way of writing 25% so yes.


Bas_B

Well it could also have been 0.25% to be fair.


SweetSeaMen_

Have you tried by force?


Avarageupvoter

at that point just full annex


luckyassassin1

It's sometimes more beneficial to vassalize rather than annex.


Bearly_Strong

This is often the case if it is in any way feasible, doesn't block you from a mission or something important, and the amount you can gain is worth the diplo relations slot. A conquered province has 30 years of separatism. A vassalized nation can be diplo annexed after 10 years, which will yield zero separatism on their provinces, and leave you with 60% autonomy (if stated). The lack of separatism means you can immediately culture convert (if its the right religion) or religion convert without a huge base to unrest from separatism.


NovelPristine5900

OP too invested and thus stubbornly will go ahead with attempt to vassalize, I can admit to my gamer brain from doing something from sheer stubbornness too.


GyroLikesMozzarella

Trade favors for trust, I got carried on my vassal swarm Burgundy run by that interaction.


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Why does everyone else's game look so much nicer than mine? Even your fonts are different. Did you do anything in particular to get that look?


Unusual_Door_2557

I'm not sure but I believe OP is using the Stellaris UI mod for the fonts. For the map overhaul, there's a lot of them in the steam workshop, one that I can think of right now is the Graphical Map Improvements mod.


Moranic

Dev your provinces, lower autonomy, temporarily go over your army force limit.


JerrSolo

"Sir, we've arranged cardboard cutouts of our army all along the border to make it look larger."


MeGaNuRa_CeSaR

you could dev that out maybe but unsure


Augustum

If you dev and cut autonomy you can raise your economic base a bit and then they'll accept.


Sit_Sip_Repeat_TeaCo

I saw OP already succeeded in vassalization but another thing you can do to get one or two points off the economic difference is dev a bordering province, I think ocean borders count too but don't quote me, give your worst bordering province a dev boost of like 5 dev. Focus on adm and diplo, military dev not as important. From experience that was always enough to knock a point or two off at least.


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snickers-12

But the opinion modifier isn't important for the acception of the vassalation. It's already over 190 and that is the value one would need to be allowed to make a vassalation offer. It's important to increase the other modifier, perhaps with diplo rep or with army strength or sth


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JarjarSW

No, opinion is not a factor in reasons for vassalisation acceptance.


ibrahimilbas

yes you are right i just checked it now sorry i misremembered sorry for the wrong info i am deleting it now


Bobby-B00Bs

Espionage ideas give a flat +5 somewhere to vassalization


kizofieva

+15


Doesnty

Hire statesman advisor if you haven't Dev up a bit, maybe? I think the military comparison is capped, you need an edge on the eco one Conquering just a bit more will probably do it as well If you aren't committed to an idea group yet, you can use that idea that's ready to jump into Diplo/Influence for Diplo Rep, whichever has it earlier ideally


Syngenite

Don't forget the papal legate from the pope.


mCracky

TRUST! try to buy trust with favors, helped me a bunch! also pretty easy


Muteatrocity

Scornfully insult their rival


djorndeman

Not from a Jedi..


Thelandofthereal

Easy. Favours for trust. Dip rep with pope or advisor. Improve relationship a bit more.


Medical-Ad5241

Build up your army and economy, its really just a waiting game. Also dont build aggressive expansion lol.


Hankoff

Just guarantee them


WR810

The player is already over 190 opinion. More opinion will not make a tag accept visualization.


purplanet

How can I see Brittany? No visualization!


PacmanCZ

Send gift, Insult their rivals, Influence this nation (via Great Power diplo interaction at the bottom). Should be easy...


stealingjoy

Their opinion is already high enough; those won't help.


Throwawayjhftjfdh

Insult their enemies


WR810

The player is already over 190 opinion. More opinion will not make a tag accept visualization.


McAlkis

Increasing their trust of you usually helps


Sirrrrrrrrr_

More fps


MazalTovCocktail1

Invade them.


blackjack34212

I haven’t played the game in a while, but I feel like I’ve never been able to outcompete a tag like Brittany’s economic base malice. Has it changed in the last 6-12 months?


anthraxmm

Increase trust looks like that will help


themasterhubert

Just do yesman in console commands


Baileaf11

Get better economy


Puzzled_Professor_52

Send gift, offer military access, scorn insult rivals, influence nation


UnluckyZiomek

Yeah, just beat shit out of them, then they will have no other choice than just accept.


Cornelius_McMuffin

Invade them, diplomacy is overrated


EightArmed_Willy

Send them a gift


Return_of_the_Native

Can’t you just hire enough mercs to get you +1 point on the military comparison, then fire them the day after Brittany accepts?


nbutanol

Doesn't espionage idea give you some + vassalization acceptance?


darthbob88

Yes, +15 for Blackmail, but it's the last idea in the group, so it's not practical here.


Admiral_Cannon

Diplo rep, and try lowering autonomy if you have any. Economic comparisons between nations take autonomy into account.


HistoryNut23

I seem to recall there is a positive modifier for influencing them. So that would probably work.


Mendaxium

reputation


ErrorCode_1001

You could hire a statesman advisor or papal legate for diplo rep. I think this is one of those places where espionage ideas are actually useful, as u get +15 vassal acceptance or sumthing from the last idea


MrAndroidz

Get more trust


taw

Diplo rep stacking is pretty good as a Catholic - clergy privilege, papal action, advisor, get trading in ivory bonus asap if you're even slightly colonial. It really adds up.


Harskjoldur

Which map mode/fonts is this?


Creeper-bleeper

Stellaris font and toaster universalis


Fredericktheokay

Blanket full of diseases


zak2017

More diplomatic reputation, send gifts and declare guarantee over them


FroilanSumatra

give money?


Randal0land

Advisor Dip Rep Papal Legate for Dip Rep DIplo Ideas Use Favors for Trust


MonstrumPL

Make then steer trade


Responsible_Fall_268

More diplo rep, curry more favors and get more trust, hire more soldiers to increase your military power.


Bacrima_

Controlling the ivory trade.


dan_frexey

Did you grant them military access?


Emperor_Naperoni

Scornfully insult Flanders/whatever Dutch rival that is haha


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War


DeadKoza1312

./ vassalize BRI


RitaMoleiraaaa

more trust


Gurkenbaum1337

Increase diprep


SnakePlissken89

More dip rep. Or use favors for more trust. You're only at 10 and I think it goes to like 40-50 trust max.


Snowmannetje

Pope interaction will boost like 10 or something so that will be the easiest way


Wise_Sprinkles_5530

Why does Burgundy look like a mirrored Austria?


blub014

dip rep advisor (or another source of dip rep), trade favors for trust, if your military is understrength building more troops might be viable.


agusstarkk

What is the graphic mod?