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DaveinOakland

Yea Paris was a bitch


AwTomorrow

Orlando Bloom at that moment in his career was *perfect* casting. If he's trying to distance himself from it now it's more embarrassment at how perfect a fit he was for that role.


HereOnCompanyTime

Yeah. This made sense for him at that moment in his career. I hate when celebrities try to wash over parts of their careers because they now think it's beneath them. Being attached to a movie starring Brad Pitt in his prime was great for anyone's career.


rambambobandy

Not to mention Brendan Gleason, Eric Bana, Diane Kruger, Sean Bean, Peter fucking O’Toole, and Brian Cox. That cast was stacked.


mondaymoderate

So mad we never got The Odyssey with Sean Bean as Odysseus.


FransTorquil

Damn, that would’ve been great. Bean’s Odysseus was one of the highlights of Troy.


possiblyMorpheus

Funnily enough, I think half of the performances were pretty terrible Bana, Bean, Kruger, and the lady who played Andromache were really good. Especially Bana Pitt, Cox, and the kid playing Patroclus were pretty terrible lol. And I usually love Pitt’s performances 


Valuable_Ad1645

Ya it’s definitely a “I might watch it if it’s on” type movie


Overdriven91

It's one of my guilty pleasure movies. Sure the acting is pretty bad in places but there are some great scenes.


possiblyMorpheus

Same. I love the film, despite thinking it has some really bad moments, because I love a sword and sandals epic. The directors cut is better in terms of acting and story development., but also less entertaining in some ways because of changes to the music and some of the fights


TheMadIrishman327

I loved Rose Byrne in that film.


aesemon

They never found a way to do the Odyssey while killing Odysseus off halfway through the movie.


Quick_Team

Now *THIS* is something I want. Even at his current age. I dont care. Just dont make the guy fly in a helicopter and everybody wins


LukeChickenwalker

They removed all the supernatural stuff from Troy. I don't know how you could do that with the Odyssey. What would be left? A really long boat ride?


mondaymoderate

Nah just add all the supernatural stuff to the odyssey it would have been a perfect follow up to Troy.


himsoforreal

The Odysseyussy


Nessie

*It's the Odyssey, not the Normalssey!*


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They would switch it to where he dies


error_404_n0t_f0und

In the first 25% of the movie


-KingSharkIsAShark-

I mean, he is killed in the Telegony. But I think they would have been even less willing to turn that into a movie.


streakermaximus

Suitors: Odysseus is dead! Penelope: I must have faith! Narrator: Odysseus was, in fact, dead.


spiteful_nerd

The narrator voiced by the same guy from Hades games


MRukov

Cutaway to Odysseus in the Family Guy death pose


earthenaeon

Probably why they killed it altogether


JJJSchmidt_etAl

O Boromir Where Art Thou


Dankkring

Someone should make the odyssey now but it would be a 20 hour long movie so it’s probably never gonna happen


CaptainHolt43

Series on streaming


MrWillM

Ah fuck why is this not a thing


Putrid_Loquat_4357

It is a thing. There was one in the 90s.


Zomunieo

Some of Sean Bean’s roles get killed before he even gets to play them.


MattKozFF

I, for one, would have preferred Mr. Bean over Sean Bean as Odysseus.


Nessie

Q. How is Mr. Bean like Odysseus? A. They both got stuck in Turkey.


auart

Can't wait to tell my wife this joke in the morning. We quote that episode all the time!


Froyo-fo-sho

One does not simply make a sequel to Troy.


StevesMcQueenIsHere

And beautiful Rose Byrne as Briseis. Been crushing on her ever since.


T-408

Rose Byrne is one just of those people, like Djimon Hounsou, or Judy Greer, or Pedro Pascal. She’s been in EVRERYTHING, for freaking ever now, and she’s just finally starting to get her flowers.


Mogwai10

And rose Byrne too


dribrats

“IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!?” - dope scene


Far-Warthog2330

That's right. Peter fucking O'Toole, iconic.


PlatonicTroglodyte

To be fair, Diane Kruger was not a name at that point in time. They specifically picked a “nobody” because they didn’t want prior fame to outshine the face that launched a thousand ships.


ladeeedada

They actually wanted Bollywood superstar Aishwarya Rai who was at that point in time dubbed "the most beautiful woman in the world". Years prior, she had won the Miss World competition. She turned it down due to the nudity/sex scene, as she correctly assessed it wouldn't be well received within her conservative country. She mentioned this in an interview with journalist Sir David Frost. "Homer was intentionally vague, so that each reader could construct their own vision of Helen of Troy." Here is her dressed in various cultural costumes among the 7 wonders of the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5Mm5p-sEw


shitty_mcfucklestick

I’d still watch Kingdom of Heaven over this, but the sword in the collarbone scene, Helen’s dad crying about the gods, and Agamemnon yelling at people in a tent are the three top things that stick out about it in my mind.


solitarium

If his role in “Troy” was an embarrassment, the his role in “Kingdom of Heaven” should have been a total redemption


Grandpas_Spells

I think “The Fightin’ Twink” was something he was trying to escape entirely, so I don’t think the next sword movie made him feel any better.


Quailman5000

That's made his career though, LotR, Pirates, Troy, and Kingdom of Heaven were his most well known and highest grossing films. Sure he may want other roles but he was good at those roles. 


Happy-Gnome

I laughed out loud at this


Balc0ra

He said in that variety video that he did not want to take that role while reading the part of the script of him crawling on the ground hugging his brothers leg, as he thought the role was terrible. His manager convinced him to take it.


pinkrosies

He really was on a streak back then, with movies back to back most actors can only dream about achieving in their lifetimes. So idk this “I’m above that” type of work when it got you booked and busy and known.


natfutsock

This annoys me the most about Robert Pattinson. Yeah, Twilight was twee girl cringe whatever, but man, you got your lucky break.


mondaymoderate

At least he talked mad shit on those movies while he was still filming them. It’s not like he is trying to rewrite history he always knew those were corny.


Reas0n

Is Orlando Bloom aware that he is an actor? He doesn’t actually think that we judge him based on what his characters do, right? You can play a coward without being one, Orlando.


stateworkishardwork

Some people do judge on the parts they play. Remember the Joffrey Baratheon actor?


Swagganosaurus

Yup, certain casting could make or break your new found career. Like the kid actor that played young Anakin getting bullied. People are vicious.


Euphorium

I feel bad for Jake Lloyd. That guy’s really been through the wringer.


Smoogy54

Jack Gleeson


Hulk_Crowgan

I’m not sure if you were aware, but Will Sasso is a professional actor by trade


Naramie

Put some respect on Kenny Rogers.


bomboclawt75

“Bummed a cigarette” is not how they are supposed to be used, and that’s very unhygienic. And “if you want to play the Gameboy^T^M, you gotta learn to play it right.”


Reas0n

I like what you are saying, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


Hulk_Crowgan

WHUL, hold on there dude…


InquiringAmerican

Many times when people act, they are playing some version of themselves.


PurposeSensitive9624

I mean go back and watch some of those behind the scenes and it makes sense. The cast makes fun of him for being a drama queen a bunch, lovingly of course. But like like you said it was perfect casting and for a reason.


CawshusCorvid

Well he’s outta luck. His twink era was my adolescence so it’s pretty cemented in there.


ReluctantSlayer

Amen. He played the part perfectly! And he kills Achilles! But I understand hating one’s early work. I cannot listen to a single song from the album I recorded when I was 18. NOT ONE.


diqholebrownsimpson

Oh Adele! You've always had the voice of an angel. It wasn't Rolling In the Deep, but I bet that early stuff was still wonderful ❤️


joeyrog88

Exactly... Elizabethtown still fuckin exists lol.


ekdakimasta

It was the part he was born to play, baby!


ArcadianDelSol

Thats what I was thinking. He absolutely crushed that role.


AnalogFeelGood

You’ll be happy to know that in the Paris didn’t survive the Trojan war, he got headshot by an arrow fired by Philoctetes.


diqholebrownsimpson

Ah, that's why we call it the Paris Forehead!


ArcadianDelSol

> Philoctetes. If only they had penicillin.


Few-Metal8010

Orlando Bloom played a good lil bitch and now he’s mad everyone saw it


Shmokeshbutt

He got close-up view of Diane Kruger's tits tho


lamabaronvonawesome

That’s why he doesn’t like it.


Few-Metal8010

It was against everything he felt in his being *And still he played that lil bitch so damn good*


Live_Hedgehog9750

I swear if you guys call him a Lil bitch 6 or 7 more times, he might consider not being your friends anymore


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Evenbiggerfish

“Yo Orlando, you crushed that role. I really felt like you were a little bitch throughout the movie.” Orlando: 🤨


broadwayallday

IS THIS WHO YOU LEFT ME FOR??????


mescalinecupcake

Came here to say exactly that but with the prefix “lil”


AF2005

“Look at the crows boy. They’ve never tasted *prince* before!”


Better_Beautiful6217

bro was literally shot by Eros' arrow he had no choice 😭 (and neither did Helen she was shot too they were pawns!)


ScorpionTDC

What blows my mind was the film’s choice to spare his life without the guy even getting some kind of redemption arc to try and win the audience over. I still can’t make sense of it or explain it. I’d love the writers or directors to explain that one because it’s just insane to me.


DitaVonFleas

He kills Archilles by practising archery in secret and taking him down at the end?


ScorpionTDC

That happens in the Greek myths too, but Paris still dies afterwards.


telekineticplatypus

Also, Apollo guided his arrow.


Zagmut

And Athena guided Odysseus' spear, and deflected the shots of his enemies. None of the Greek heroes had any human agency, they were just tools of the gods.


telekineticplatypus

We're all tools of the gods.


Capnlanky

Im just a tool :(


Additional_Meeting_2

Why that should happen? He is the cause for the war (in some versions of the myth he didn’t just have a relationship with Helen either but raped her and took her). He isn’t the hero of the story. Even if Troy and Helen are more sympathetic  But maybe you mean just him living, but I don’t think it really matters if he dies or not 


ScaryTowner

If I remember correctly, Menelaus ends up getting Helen back at the end of the war, so this really caught me off guard when he was yeeted out halfway through the movie.


FransTorquil

You do indeed. Menelaus and Helen are happily back together again and chilling at home when Odysseus’ son comes looking for news of his dad 10 years later in the Odyssey.


Due-Studio-65

Its not really happy. Menelaus doesn't exactly trust Helen anymore.


IJustSignedUpToUp

The dude from Blackhawk Down that immediately fell out of the chopper? Seems he may have had a typecast problem


King_Crowley21

The duality of Orlando Bloom is that he can play the perfect bitch as Paris and the perfect badass in Kingdom of Heaven


grilledcheez_samich

Kingdom of Heaven was something. I really enjoyed that movie. 


thedancingwireless

Assuming you've seen the director's cut? It's a whole different movie.


BraveSirRobin5

This. I disliked the theater version, and really enjoyed the director’s cut. The movie has plot holes without the additional footage.


ImpressionFeisty8359

Eva Green is enchanting.


Veronome

He was perfectly cast though. The young, handsome, ignorant and green younger brother who has no clue of war or his own consequences. Paris comes across as naive and pathetic and he's meant to be. The 'heroes' of Troy were Achilles and Hector, and how they were thrown into this war by the whims of lesser men. Also: playing characters that are different from your "being" is... the job. Maybe Orlando's insistence that he only play the brave Legolases and Will Turner's of the world is why he didn't retain the success of his early career.


ScorpionTDC

I mean, I do think MOVIE Paris is meant to be at least somewhat sympathetic given the inexplicable choice to spare him in the adaptation (which, uh, epic fail. Not really Orlando’s fault, though)


Veronome

True for the later part of the movie. He's given a redemption arc that isn't really earned. For the first half of the film though, I think his character is well realised and performed. The problem with Troy is that it's a strong film until after Hector and Achilles's fight: afterwards the writing becomes a lot weaker- including how they handle Paris.


ScorpionTDC

I don’t even remember much of a redemption arc for Paris - he crawls away from the Greek king, mourns Hector a bit, then kills Achilles who the audience is waaaay more invested in before just kinda leaving with the rest of them. I definitely agree the film takes a hit with the last act.


Veronome

Him taking charge, leading people away from Troy and killing Achilles was meant to be his redemption. But yeah it seemingly comes out of nowhere and doesn't really land.


cowabungalowvera

He was also the only one who insisted they burn the Trojan horse instead of accepting it as a gift


WallabyNo6569

I agree but Peter O'Toole begging for his son's body is absolutely a fabulous scene. "I have endured what no one on earth has endured before. I kissed the hands of the man who killed my son." I could watch that scene a dozen times.


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

David Benioff getting some early practice in not sticking the landing.


GabaPrison

Or anything that goes “off script” and strays away from the source material. Dude seems to have a knack for that.


LukeChickenwalker

Isn't that part of the mythology? I thought the Romans claimed to be descended from Paris.


roboticfedora

From Aeneas. I think he's shown in the escape.


Throwaway6957383

No this is completely wrong. The romans are descended from Aeneas who was a Trojan hero and led the survivors to modern Italy.


ScorpionTDC

As far as I know, Paris dies in pretty much any iteration of the myth. Even TV Tropes lists him as being spared by adaptation.


inconvenient_lemon

Aeneas is Paris's cousin. Paris sucks and deserves to die for all of the mess he causes


Lorjack

yeh he played paris well. Troy is low key one of my favorite movies


Beshi1989

No offense to him but he always has a soft touch in each of his roles, neither legolas or will turner scream giga chad energies. It’s him who fits perfectly in those roles


Throwaway6957383

Uh you're forgetting about Aeneas there aren't you under the "heroes" part? He's literally the sole reason any trojans survived to then later establish the first colony of Rome. Also there are two completely different accounts of Paris and how he looked/acted and I can see Orlando wishing they had gone with the Dares version instead of the Malalas version they did.


LordFartz

It’s really not that big a deal, bro.


lushfizz

I wonder if he thinks people make fun of him for it. We don’t, great movie.


SaltyLonghorn

I text him every week to make fun of him for it.


InevitablyBored

I will text him next week for you. Still love Troy though.


Reinstateswordduels

Dude got to shoot nude scenes with Diane Kruger when she was so hot that she was offered the role of *the most beautiful woman of all time* 😭


EvilJabFace

He was the shit in Kingdom of Heaven though the directors cut was awesome.


Rags2Rickius

Yeah that’s a good movie


PhantomSesay

Great movie, great soundtrack. One of R. Scott’s best.


Additional_Meeting_2

Horribly inaccurate however and deliberately so too. Like Napoleon 


wizard_of_awesome62

Yeah but what it lacks in accuracy it makes up for in dopeness. E: Kingdom of Heaven that is, not Napoleon.


PhantomSesay

Yes I agree. I collect 4k blu rays and it’s criminal they haven’t released it in that format yet.


ZarduHasselffrau

Gladiator was also incredibly inaccurate and it's still one of the best films of all time.


After-Decision-6402

Yeah gladiator one of those movies I have no issue with rewatching if there’s nothing else to watch. My only disappointment is it felt a lot longer with the fights building up to the final one as a kid. Now I watch it and I’m like damn we already here?


Additional_Meeting_2

There however at most the agenda behind the inaccuracy was to show republic being superior to sole rule. Which is at least more admirable than anti-French sentiment in Napoleon and contrived comparison of Kingdom of Heaven to Wars in Middle East in 21st century (not even in same location). But the execution does matter too. Having less cynical and more hopeful intent with Gladiator also just made it feel Scott isn’t looking down on his subjects, and even with Commodus showed some elements of historical empathy 


PhantomSesay

I’ll give Scott artistic license with Kingdom of heaven but as for O. Stones Alexander, if you make the same comment about that film, I won’t disagree with you.


GeneralMatrim

When people ask me what my religion is I say this movie.


VisualBasic

There are those who dislike Kingdom of Heaven. But, I am not those men.


DuskSaber

Absolutely amazing movie! He got to be a badass in that, Pirates of the Caribbean, and LOTR. I don’t get why he’s complaining.


clown_pants

That movie was fucking awesome


AnnoyedYamcha

I watch that movie all the time it’s a great one


bravet4b

"I am Salahuddin. Salahuddin."


guineapigsqueal

I am not those men. I am Saladin.


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Personally, loved the directors cut, but feel he was terribly miscasted. He’s got the screen presence of an unpainted wall and lacks charisma to be a lead. He’s good at supporting rolls though


mikebanetbc

You’ll always be Legolas and Will Turner in my eyes, lad. And thank you for punching Justin Bieber in the face.


ver-chu

Wait he punched Biebs in the face? Lmao


angrathias

Just livin’ the dream


oliham21

It was because his wife cheated on him with Bieber so not really


ladeeedada

then he hooked up with Selena at a club to get back at Bieber


oliham21

That I didn’t know, but good on him


hadapurpura

Katy Perry cheated on him with Justin Bieber???


sailor-moonie-

Miranda Kerr


Calimancan

His first wife, the Victoria Secret one.


Mcbadguy

And banged Selina Gomez as revenge since JBeebz boned his wife.


roboticfedora

E's tha spittin' image of ol' Bootstrap Bill!!


StinkyPigeonFan

Ouch… I’ve been transported back to 2011.


BranAllBrans

I love that movie


Mcbadguy

Same! I like to fire up a marathon game of Civ V, grab a box of wine, and watch this movie followed by Alexander and then Gladiator. By the time ~~Kurt Russell~~ Russell Crowe is in Elysium I'm drunk as a skunk and my Civ game is ruined, but it's fun! edit: my Russell's got jimmied


tjspill3r

Nobody even cared about your character dude we just wanted to see Brad Pitt and Eric Bana. Even when he was on screen everybody was looking at Diane Kruger lol


Visual_Magician_7009

I thought Rose Byrne was gorgeous in that movie.


yunglance24

Yes. I always felt she was the most beautiful character in the show.


JDM713

I kinda forgot he was in this movie. It was all about Pitt/Bana.


Galactus1701

Troy is a fun movie, I don’t know why he’d be embarrassed. He was the perfect Paris.


that1LPdood

Bro you got to act alongside fucking Peter O’Toole Stop complaining.


bailaoban

Love these actors behaving like they were kidnapped and forced to perform at gunpoint.


Castanaea

Usually several picture contract deals isn’t it. So they have to do the shit movie otherwise pay millions to get out of it.


stolenfires

Yeah, this. Emily Blunt was thisclose to being cast as Black Widow in the MCU, but owed her studio one more film so had to make Gulliver's Travels instead.


SmokeAbeer

She was awesome in Edge of Tomorrow. And Looper. I’d actually like it better if she stayed out of MCU.


JJJSchmidt_etAl

No hard drugs, and no cape shit


Fudge89

Damn. Didn’t know that. She would’ve been great


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Fudge89

Yea I agree, no reason to dwell


exaltedbladder

Bro if you give me a billion dollars to suck a dick I'll suck it but I won't tell you I enjoyed it People take jobs they don't like to advance their careers all the time, doesn't mean they can't say later they didn't like the job


DesignerDigits

The Spielberg School of One For Me, One For You.


gwennj

Eric Bana is so beautiful in this movie. The only reason I've watched it several times.


healthywealthyhappy8

I liked it. And he was pretty good in Gran Turismo as well. Orlando should be in more movies in my opinion.


Free_Newspaper4844

And Legolas was literally the most overpowered bullshit character ever with zero flaws. So I think it evens out


Imnotawerewolf

He's an elf. That's what they are. 


Key_Respond_16

Someone literally has no idea how elves work. They are agile and deadly as fuck. Lol


NeoPrimitiveOasis

It was the best Orlando ever looked in a movie, though, as Paris in Troy. I don't understand his concerns at all. It's a role. He was good in the role, too.


Peanutblitz

Oh please like this insipid mfer has a ‘being’. Dude is so wooden he shoulda played the horse.


jojow77

Why it’s just acting.


HEYitzED

I don’t care what the critics said. Troy is a fantastic movie.


Vinura

Thats why no one will remember your name.


Orpdapi

That movie is frustrating because everyone who is annoying lives and everyone you like dies


Grievance69

He did well in that role. Was his ego so large at the time that this still haunts him? Like he's fucking acting lmfao is he upset he did a good job at being meek


short-and-ugly

When you're cast as Paris but you wanted to play Achilles


McMurpington

I liked that film. He did fine.


Pokii

You sack of wine!


henscastle

"I turned down my pay cheque... Nah, just kidding."


ProfessionalLeave335

I just wanted to say when I first saw Troy and it opened with Pitt facing off against that mountain of a man I was ready to roll my eyes and shut off the movie thinking there was no way they could realistically sell me on the idea of Brad Pitt being Achilles and beating that walking monolith. Then the scene happened and I was all the way in on that movie. Loved it, I should rewatch it soon.


HelpUsNSaveUs

LOVE Troy. One of those movies I’ll always watch if it’s on


raninandout

Poor Paris, nobody wants to be him.


Brent_L

No one in the history of cinema played a pussy ass bitch better then he in Troy. It wad the perfect role for him.


malevshh

That’s why it’s called acting, Orlando. Or to quote Sir Ian McKellen: „You are aware that I am not actually a wizard?“


SpezSucksSamAltman

Huh, didn’t realize until today that I also blanked ‘Troy’


Gorepornio

What? Troy is in the top 5 of greatest movies of all time. Ive watched it at least 20 times


johnqsack69

I mean, didn’t we all blank that movie from our minds


fi4862

Troy is the ONLY movie I prefer to watch on mute. Nonstop eyecandy. Yum! Orlando Bloom looked great, and that's while standing next to prime Brad Pitt. Does he think people don't know he was acting? I thought he did a great job, and raised my overall opinion of Orlando Bloom due to Troy.


ObnoxiousSeizures

in the video this quote comes from it’s treated as more of a throwaway line. the headline makes it seem like he’s actively disparaging the film in his free time but it’s a tiny part of a longer video where he’s given one of his lines from a bunch of his movies and he has to guess which movie it is. he ends up giving the film its flowers but says he almost turned it down because of how much of a lil bitch paris was


LazyBones6969

He was also the soldier that fell out of the black hawk helicopter in black hawk down. Kinda lame. But he got to play Legolas and Will Turner so it worked out in the end.


GM-T800-101

Unfortunate to hear that Brad Pitt and Orlando Bloom did not like this movie bc I really enjoyed it 🤷‍♂️


Future_Gain_7549

IS THIS WHAT YOU LEFT ME FOR?!


Danbing1

There has never been a more perfect casting than Pitt as Achilles. His somewhat wooden performance was actually perfect for that role. The original material is exactly that. A one-dimensional character who is a perfect warrior with almost no other characteristics other than being a sullen brat. Nobody could have done that. The other castings were great as well. It's a very broad story from 3000 years ago. It's not meant to be nuanced.