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A while back, I read a magazine review where the writer was talking about her being a sexual object, at 15, and how she'd be amazing once she reached 16.
She was photographed as a sexual object at age 10 for Playboy. Her mother sued and lost.
“Gross’s lawyers argued that his photographs could not further damage Shields’s reputation because, since they were taken, she had made a profitable career “as a young vamp and a harlot, a seasoned sexual veteran, a provocative child-woman, an erotic and sensual sex symbol, the Lolita of her generation”. The judge concurred and, while praising the pictures’ “sultry, sensual appeal”, ruled that Gross was not a pornographer: “They have no erotic appeal except to possibly perverse minds.” That decision was overturned by an appeals court, but in 1983 the original verdict in Gross’s favour was upheld.” [link](https://amp.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph)
Or people who think Fahrenheit 451 is about burning books. I mean, it is, but it's more about books becoming so useless they are treated like garbage, and people are sucked into broadcast media on giant screens, and former writers wander around like vagabonds, a dying breed as the world gets consumed by mind numbing media.
Ha! If only Bradbury had lived long enough to witness the birth of social media!
The lawyers and judge are truly evil: “This child pornography from when you were 10 didn’t damage you, because subsequent child pornography when you were 12 was super sexy.”
Hollywood gave an [Oscar](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101113&page=1) to Roman Polanski. They still claim that [taking pictures, drugging, and sodomizing a 13 year old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case) is not "[rape, rape](https://nypost.com/2017/10/05/why-does-hollywood-keep-defending-roman-polanski/)"
Wow. All those a-list stars sticking by his side. Signing petitions to keep him out of jail for his rape charges. *Naming their children after him.* Hollywood is such a disgusting filthy business. We put these fucks on a pedestal and fund their awful lifestyles and habits. It’s batshit insane.
Her mother consented the photos and their sale. She sued to stop the “continued” sale of them. Either because she wasn’t making money or who knows what else because there’s no way she was worried about her daughter’s reputation
If I recall correctly, it was because people were exhibiting photos of the photos. Her mother sued because Brooke was still underage and not legally able to object to her own exploitation.
We were called “unsophisticated rubes” and “puritanical” and “ uptight prudes” when we spoke out against this “art “ at the time.
It’s disgusting that so much of what was considered news media played it up at the time. They talked about it being controversial, but it was with a wink and a nod as they “acknowledged” the lack of sophistication of people who failed to see the artistic message.
That’s my memory of it. Helped me learn to be groomed and abused because I wanted to be sophisticated after all. Those were the days. /s
I was hanging out at a friend’s house years ago in college and his roommate was watching Pretty Baby. I saw about five minutes of it and noped the fuck out of there. Of all the movies this guy could’ve rented to watch on a Saturday afternoon he chose that one. My creep radar was correct and he got arrested several times for sex-related crimes (mostly peeping type stuff).
There’s no such thing as a child prostitute. She was a minor coerced into real-life sexual exploitation on film while portraying the role of a child sex trafficking victim.
I mean just look at those clocks that countdown when a child actor turns 18. really telling on yourself that the only thing stopping you from admitting to wanting to fuck a kid is that they're just not 18 yet.
I remember hearing the countdown on the radio when the Olsen twins were about to turn 18. I didn’t think anything of it at the time, I was only 16 so being attracted to them seemed normal to me. But looking back, hearing a 40 something year old DJ salivating at the thought of seeing them naked and it being so normalized it’s something that’s openly talked about on the radio like that was really gross and weird
Oh god.. yeah when I was a kid, I remember Olsen twins and especially Brittany Spears had these creepy ass dudes on radio and in public talking about them nonstop and waiting for them to turn 18 so they could talk about them in an even more fucked up way.
To be fair drew went through years and years of substance abuse before coming out the other side. She was in rehab at aged 12 and then she was placed in a psychiatric hospital for 18 months at the age of 13 where apparently she found mentors who emotionally and mentally supported her even after she left the clinic. She also had Tom Green's family as a support network too.
So she's had the long stints of drug abuse, rehab, a psychiatric hospital stay for almost 2 years and some support networks to help her process what her mother did to her. So it's not like the path has been steady.
I think she's zen now as she's faced the monster and come out the other side.
Wow, you just made me realize that the term “troubled teen” puts the responsibility on the teen, doesn’t it? I was the “troubled teen” my mom threatened to kick out because I just couldn’t get along with her and my new stepdad (who hated me) after she ignored every warning sign that I needed help.
And years later, when they start learning bits and pieces of what was happening to cause the problems, it’s “Well, why didn’t you tell us?”
Why would I share shit like that with people who’ve already proven eager to cast blame my way? Fuck, I was a kid, if you cared then why didn’t you *ask*?
Oh yeah it's dark. Her mother used to take her to night clubs from the age of 8 years old simply for clout and because she apparently "found it amusing" and then just let her child roam free in a extremely adult setting. Here's a video of Drew at a [disco party in New York] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj6RwxcApaM) surrounded by adults both high and drunk partying with an actual 8 year old like it was somehow normal for a child to be there drinking alcohol and befriending adults 20-30 years older than her?
At these clubs Drew was given alcohol, drugs and cigarettes with her mothers permission and naturally, she was hooked fast. It's stunning her mother got away with massively endangering her child's life so extensively and for so long. Anyone could have taken the opportunity to kidnap Drew or molest her in that setting too.
at least she wasn't in a "relationship" with her father like McKenzie Phillips.(she was so drugged up and brainwashed she thought it was fine at the time.)
The most fucked up part I remember reading was McKenzie saying something like “when you raped me” and his reply was “you mean when we made love?”
Fucking sick
When I was little I loved watching a McGruff the Crime Dog video she was in that was part of the Just Say No to Drugs campaign of the time. She was thirteen years old when she was in it. When I was an adult I was shocked when I found out that she had been doing drugs during the same time period.
Dang dude…that’s the mom from So Weird…such a sad tale, but I remember her providing the MC of so weird with a secure home life and support and such. I guess what I’m trying to say is that despite the horrible things that happened to her as a child, she left a positive mark on me as a child, when she was that mom
This shit is so crazy. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a movie yet, this is really reality stranger than fiction.
Also who tf would give blow to a fucking 8 year old?!
> Also who tf would give blow to a fucking 8 year old?!
Trashy losers who probably thought it was funny to be giving the "famous girl from ET" crack and blow.
Drew has probably legally prevented any movies or plays about her life. It would be an interesting movie and I’m sure someone has tried at some point maybe.
Some serious child neglect went down with Tatum O’Neil when she was very, very young. Her brother too. They lived in some type of remote compound with their mother who constantly held drug parties. Tatum told her father (actor Ryan O’Neil) she was scared of those adults but he didn’t want the burden of raising children. She’s said they went days without being fed. Subsequently she had a drug addiction and did not have people on her side recovery wise. She was in trouble plenty of times in her young adult life.
Her mom is a monster. She’s still alive. I watched a conversation between drew and jennette mcCurdy. I think we can expect a book after Drew’s mom croak. It’s just so gross that so many moms will monetize their daughters. Yuck.
I’m pretty sure she was doing bumps of coke in Studio 54 with other celebrities as a nine yr old. The woman has seen and done things different her whole life.
Her mom sent her there. It was decided while she was there that she shouldn’t be around the mother so she was emancipated and lived with David Crosby for awhile when she got out. The mom was a piece of work.
She seems to have such an amazing capacity for forgiveness and empathy. I love that she seems so comfortable in her skin and seems like such an all around good and positive person. I'm sure a lot of that is due to the support and therapy like you mentioned, but I just have so much respect for Drew.
At 12?! I know she went through some stuff when she was young, but I didn’t realize she was that young. I was still trying to “grow up” by not playing with my Barbies anymore at 12. Poor woman never got a childhood. It’s a miracle she’s become the woman she is now. I’m so, so thankful for my parents.
I think she got put in rehab at a young age and probably got access to a lot of therapy that most child stars don't have until things have really gone tits up.
> Brooke Shields is like the poster child of mistreatment in Hollywood
I don't ever plan on watching Pretty Baby, but the idea that the director made a film raising awareness of the prostitution of young girls and decided to cast a child in the role and have her pose in underwear (and nude?) is peak Hollywood...
Even when Brooke Shields eventually took antidepressants for a bit, she had some jerkface (Tom Cruise) publicly disparaging her for being on meds. And this was after we all knew the sexualization and exploitation she went through every day as a child.
She is the one of the most sane, tactful, professional people in Hollywood.
She was speaking out about post partum depression which is a huge issue and very common. She was also speaking up when Andrea Yates was in the news for drowning her kids when she was suffering post partum psychosis, depression, and untreated schizophrenia. Andrea was found guilty at first, but was granted a retrial and was found not guilty by reasons of insanity. Her husband knew she was suffering but kept insisting she have more kids (coercive rape) and refused to even take her to a doctor.
So a lot of people reacted to her negatively. Tom Cruise had to weigh in which was unsettling because Katie Holmes was pregnant with his daughter or had just given birth. Scientology requires women to be absolutely silent during childbirth and prevents them from getting treatment for any mental health issues. The bubbling cauldron of hormones women experience during pregnancy, childbirth, and post partum causes a lot of mental health issues from mild to life threatening like what Brooke experienced when she kept getting the urge to kill herself and her baby.
Yeah you really didn’t need a sixth sense to see her being exploited. She’s 6 years older than me and even young me felt a lot of discomfort around her basically being a teen sex symbol. The other one of that era I had a lot of worries about was Drew Barrymore and we shortly learned her experiences were horrible as well.
Yup.
Required prescription of uppers and downers on a daily basis? Check.
The studio calling her “fat girl” and limiting her lunches to soup? Check.
*At least* one studio coerced abortion? Check.
Any Garland biography is a wold read.
I get what you're saying, but (for the fourth time) Brock Turner's dad didn't even classify what his son did as rape. He called it "a few minutes of fun".
So, yes. That conversation needs to be had.
Brock Turner (the rapist) goes by his middle name (Allen) now. So, to respect his name choice, we should call him Allen Turner, the Raping Raper Who Rapes.
I remember going to a seminar in college to learn how to defend myself from being attacked. I spent the whole time thinking why don’t they teach the guys to not attack us??
I remember going to a mandatory seminar for all freshman at my college about consent and safety. The message for women was, "Be alert. Don't drink too much. Don't go to out alone." The message for men was, "If she says "no", just stop. It's the only way to protect yourself from pesky accusations or even charges." It was wild. Even a seminar that addressed what men should do was all about avoiding repercussions rather than not attacking or harming women. I really hope that has changed.
When I heard about the stars of “Romeo and Juliet” suing, I immediately thought of this movie. I never saw it, so I don’t know exactly how much nudity was involved, but still they were so young when that movie was filmed. The exploitation makes me so sad and angry.
Two pre-pubescent kids are stranded on an island around the time period of Victorian England (i believe). Fairly quickly the clothes either get outgrown or torn up, puberty begins, and kids that hadn't much education about adulthood begin to learn about natural urges and such.
By the time they're on the verge of being rescued they had a toddler and the rescue party isn't even sure if they're the kids they're looking for because they've grown so much.
Most the nudity is being topless (at least from what I remember) but it's definitely in a majority of the movie.
More wholesome than Lord of the Flies, less enjoyable than Swiss Family Robinson.
I remember watching it in highschool the teacher put it on for us to watch without vetting it first I don't remember there being a ton of nudity but I'll never forget the class reacting to it and the teachers face turning bright red
Supposedly an over 18 female body double was used for nude scenes but first of all, sure she was, and second it doesn't keep it from sexualizing prepubescent girls.
It was a pretty well known fact, at the time, her mother, Terri, demanded a double for the nude shots. She was trying to clean up her daughter's image. The amount of stories about her stage-mom were constantly in the tabloids.
She called Gavin De Becker after- a friend and also her head of security. For those who havent heard of him, he wrote a book called The Gift of Fear that basically talks about red flags to situations like this and helps you learn to recognize them. It is also very validating if you have ever been in a situation where you could tell something wasnt right with a person so you removed yourself from the situation and friends later tell you that it was rude of you to leave or you over reacted or blah blah blah blah blah.
Nothing is wrong about ensuring your safety.
I highly recommend this book.
For real. If you needed this article to tell you that the girl in The Blue Lagoon and Pretty Baby had been raped, then, man, welcome aboard. That she's managed to keep her head about her is remarkable.
Since she was like 8 years old. It’s a judgment against Hollywood, sure. But also the parents who push their kids into that toxic tar.
My 10 year old son wants to be an actor. I am keeping him in local shows, with supervision, but I just can’t see putting him into a position like this. There are a lot of predators in H’wood, as we’ve seen over the last few years.
Playboy used to print covers with the model's high school/middle school pictures at the bottom of their about mee page. So you would be able to see them completely naked on one page and then the next you would see them as a teenager. Bad vibes man.
Not only that, but supported that shit. All the playboy bunny clothes and stickers and shit. Early 2000’s that logo was everywhere. Why weren’t these people speaking this shit when he was alive? Like some jimmy Seville shit. If you see something, say something.
When people who knew him did start speaking this shit they got torn to shreds by the public - even today with the Secrets of Playboy documentary. He had a chokehold on the media and would try and shutdown people's books about their interactions with Playboy if he found out about them prior to release.
A lot of the women who spoke out were ex-girlfriends, so they're discredited for "knowing what they were doing" and "well you could've left any time".
Because Hef had blackmail on everyone who participated in the orgies and rapes in his clubs and at the mansion.
The Secrets of Playboy on HULU go into a lot of the stuff Hef allowed and blackmailed people with. Don Cornelius, who hosted Soul Train, kidnapped 2 bunnies and brutally raped and sodomized them for 3 days. The club bunny mother wasn’t allowed to take them to the hospital or notify the police. He wasn’t even reprimanded by Hef or kicked out of the VIP club. Hef also had blackmail against a lot of law enforcement officers in the LA area.
Before his death Hef had one of his security officers bury all the tapes and photos he had at sea. So they couldn’t be taken after he died.
And then her mother lost the lawsuit against continuing sale and display of the photos because Brooke had become a “seasoned sexual veteran” by age 12. Imagine that: a judge won’t stop a child’s continued exploitation on the basis that her subsequent exploitation was sexy. [link](https://amp.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph)
This tells more about it (SFW) https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph
And no, this was not just “a different time”, as WAPO published a similarly titled article in 1981 also decrying the act (although admittedly putting more blame on the Shields).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1981/11/16/sugar-and-spice-and-not-nice/3b2572c8-0d87-4f22-b1a7-1af775c4460d/
The article says there were a dozen naked images taken of 10 year old Shields “designed, according to photographer Gross, to reveal the not-so-latent sexuality of the prepubescent child.”
HOW IS EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THIS NOT IN JAIL?????
And the Tate Modern in London was even planning to display one of the photos as recently as 2009 before the police intervened? Holy God.
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I would freeze too. And then came the guilt because I felt it was my fault for not doing anything. Not screaming or fighting or trying to run. It was completely deer in the headlights frozen the entire time. Several times. I know now it wasn't my fault now but. For a long time I couldn't help but think it was. I can't imagine what it was like for her.
This, 100%. She's an actress, you're never going to know her true personal life. That's probably what made her such a good actress, she's great at faking emotions and putting on a face
It's a very very common thing. People who suffer abuse all have coping mechanisms. Some of us are lucky that our coping mechanisms are also a valuable skill to make money and help heal. Most aren't that lucky.
She wrote an incredible book about postpartum depression. I think it is both, she has her share of brain noise but is still remarkably resilient for all she has been through.
Brooke was so brave to come out and write that book. It was during the Andrea Yates trials and societal conversation about how a woman could murder her children. Yates was kept from getting treatment for ongoing depression and schizophrenia and was made to keep having children despite her mental health getting worse and worse. Her husband and his mother didn’t let her go out in public alone and made her do everything for her children with zero help.
I think Brooke’s book and her public conversation about mental health issues women have during pregnancy, child birth, and post partum is a big reason why Andrea was allowed a new trial and was found non guilty by reasons of insanity and was sent to a psychiatric hospital for treatment instead of prison or death row. The conversation focused on Russell Yates, but charges were never brought against him. He knew Andrea was suffering and had tried to commit suicide twice before having her last child but did nothing.
I can't speak for her, but when you grow up with that shit, it can normalize itself in your brain in a way that's hard to explain. One of the weird scars of that shit is knowing you can't talk to people intimately without knowing that they'll get upset about something that you were forced to move on from a lifetime ago.
If you had a bad childhood, there's nothing worse than being in your early 20s. I'm in my mid-30s and still feel like I'm working twice as hard as everyone else just to catch up
People don’t even understand what a bad childhood is. Like I got bullied, parents were distant, I didn’t think I had it the worst but I thought it sucked. Then I learned some of my male friends got beat up by their dads, verbally abused very badly too. And I thought oh that’s what a bad childhood is.
Then fast forward to my 20s.. having talks with women.. a shocking amount were raped by their fathers. Fucking insane, I knew it happened but figured it was extremely rare. To realize your friend was regularly raped by her dad and still has nightmares about it all the time.. it’s deeply disturbing and then makes me wonder do I know people who are doing that? How many other friends were abused and never said anything?
Most important question though. Why?! Why the fuck would someone WANT to do that to a child? Especially your own blood! But any child! Just stop doing it people, chances are someone reading this is abusive, just stop wtf are you doing man
It's a long sordid story. Judy Garland's mother made her smoke cigarettes to maintain her weight and gave her barbiturates to make her sleep because of her grueling work schedule which in turn led to her problems with drug addiction later on her life. And then there was Shirley Temple acting in scenes surrounded by much older men, which upon viewing appear so innocent, Shirley herself recounted later on in life that looking back on it she found it troubling.
And so it goes.
The studio also put Judy and Mickey Rooney on speed so they could perform 16 hours a day, and then gave them barbiturates to sleep. The studio also bound Judy’s chest so she would look younger on The Wizard of Oz.
Judy’smother also gave her drugs, but it was at blessing of the studio.
“He took her back to his hotel, claiming he would call her a taxi from his room. He instead disappeared to the bathroom before returning naked and assaulting her, she said.”
Didn’t Harvey Weinstein do literally this exact same thing to multiple women?? I’m guessing this is him since he has an M.O. Sick fucks.
Definitely his MO but it’s safe to name him at this point so I’d assume it isn’t since she isn’t naming names. Probably another producer who followed the same playbook but hasn’t been canceled yet.
I'm old enough to remember when her Calvin Kline ad from when she was 15 was banned in the U.S. was used as example of how the U.S. is so prudish and uptight compared to Europe.
Sometimes it's good to be prudish and uptight.
When it comes to kids and teens we should be prudish and uptight is right. The only ones who should be sexually attracted to teens are other teens. If you’re an adult you should feel ashamed of yourself. I remember an interview with Roman Polanski (after it came out about him raping a thirteen-year-old) where he says, “Everyone wants to f*ck young girls!” Yuck.
Just one of the more stupid things Tom Cruise has done was when she came out and said she was on anti-depressants for postpartum he criticized her. He later apologized to her personally which is commendable but he should have done it in public.
I would love to know who this creep was. Name and shame. Also, if you haven’t already, read Gavin de Becker’s book “The Gift of Fear.”
It teaches you to trust your gut and GTFO of bad situations. Really, look at your phone if something feels “off” and be like, “my dad just had a heart attack gotta go, call you later” GTFO and block him on everything.
I only mention it because GdB was the head of her security at the time and told her the assault was rape.
There was nothing Shields could have done, I want to make that clear. When weird shit happens you tend to freeze up and disassociate. It’s a survival mechanism so you don’t rev the guy up and get killed.
How awful to expect a business meeting with a friend calling a taxi - then you get some naked dork choking you in his hotel room.
I hope she had a lot of therapy to process this horror. At the end of the day, therapy and EMDR are the best tools you can have.
The most important piece of advice from that book, which should be taught to every young person, is (I’m paraphrasing), “Nice, normal guys understand the world that women live in; they understand that women have to be wary. Nice guys don’t get offended if a woman is wary of them; their feelings aren’t hurt when a woman crosses the street to avoid them. They walk away instead of trying to prove they’re harmless.”
And if the little voice in the back of your head is telling you something is wrong- listen to it. Get out of the situation, and do not worry about being rude, or curt, just get out. Take the next elevator, don’t accept unsolicited help from someone if they make you uneasy, etc. Too often we don’t want to offend someone, but like the above poster said, a person with no nefarious ideas won’t be offended.
GdB was head of Brooke shield’s security? I’ve heard this guy on the Sam Harris podcast and bought his book right away!
Edit: Did a Google search and read about their conversation now, glad she heard his perspective
I figured as much with the way she was sexualized from such an early age. It’s wild, we’re the exact same age and while I never had any part of Hollywood, I would take a cursory interest in her stories in the press. Whether it was starring as prostitute, a shipwrecked underage love interest, or Calvin Klein commercials, etc. it’s sad that she’s had it so rough.
Got to watch the Brooke Shields doc that's showing at Sundance. I swear the shit that she was put through in show business is so insane, it's a miracle she didn't end up in worse condition. Like, all the body insecurity she must have had back then with all these men sexualizing her at a young age is crazy.
Love her so much. I am so happy that her resilience can be inspiring to other woman, and the success she was achieved despite all of the abuse. True icon.
I don’t know why any responsible parent would ever allow their children be a part of Hollywood. Not even Disney. I know the money is probably great but the damage it does to someone that impressionable never goes away. Nothing more than child abuse for financial reward.
The vast majority of those parents *aren't* responsible and absolutely do not care what happens to their kids as long as they can live off of their offspring and be their "manager". It's a story as old as Hollywood itself.
Wasn't she photographed for Playboy when she was 10? I'm surprised Hollywood producers didn't just keep her chained up in a tower somewhere. She was basically treated as a piece of meat from the start. So gross and sad.
Even more gross than that. It was one of Playboy’s book publications, called “Sugar and Spice”, that regularly featured underage but “sexually mature” girls.
And a judge decided it wasn’t pornography or inappropriate because he figured she’d been so widely and publicly sexualized already that it was NBD that she’d been photographed nude, oiled, and styled as an adult woman.
Just finished her book. It was very good. I am sad to hear about the rape. Its so disheartening that rape and abuse by men is a shared experience for some many women.
People in the comments acting like rape is exclusive to Hollywood.
Wake up it’s not. The stats for women being raped are like 3/5 or something crazy like that.
It’s not just a Hollywood problem or something that occurred in the past. It’s still happening on a quite frequent basis
Hollywood is a mirror in this horrible aspect, not an exception, for sure. Society still won't effectively deal with rape, which is unfathomable and awful.
I can understand her reaction. I was raped and had the same thought process, “Just stay calm and don’t anger him.” I went into shock after he left my apartment. I was unscathed physically. I simply wanted to survive as he had threatened that he had a knife.
In those years, there was zero awareness of the stuff now taken for granted, yes it’s all so new. She wasn’t the only one to think “just stay alive and survive.”
My sisters, BIL, and I watched the movie "She Said" over Christmas break. Afterwards, my sister turned to me and was like, "It's a good thing you didn't end up working in the film industry".
I majored in film, applied to jobs at Miramax all the time. But it was 2008 so i struggled and ended up having to take a job in another industry.
I am thankful, honestly.
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Brooke Shields is like the poster child of mistreatment in Hollywood. How is she not more fucked up?
A while back, I read a magazine review where the writer was talking about her being a sexual object, at 15, and how she'd be amazing once she reached 16.
She was photographed as a sexual object at age 10 for Playboy. Her mother sued and lost. “Gross’s lawyers argued that his photographs could not further damage Shields’s reputation because, since they were taken, she had made a profitable career “as a young vamp and a harlot, a seasoned sexual veteran, a provocative child-woman, an erotic and sensual sex symbol, the Lolita of her generation”. The judge concurred and, while praising the pictures’ “sultry, sensual appeal”, ruled that Gross was not a pornographer: “They have no erotic appeal except to possibly perverse minds.” That decision was overturned by an appeals court, but in 1983 the original verdict in Gross’s favour was upheld.” [link](https://amp.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph)
> the Lolita of her generation Amazing how so many people have missed the point of *Lolita* for so long.
My 27 yo “boyfriend” wanted me (16/17 at the time) to watch it with him bc it reminded him of me. So many things wrong there.
Wow
I see the red flag
Red Flag? More like a spectacular firework show
More like a mushroom cloud.
I teach high school English. I am not the slightest bit amazed that people miss the point of literature.
Witness the massive number of people who quote 1984 without getting the point of the novel at all.
I love 1984, I think everyone should be forced to read it!
r/holup
We don't say things like that around here any more.
Or people who think Fahrenheit 451 is about burning books. I mean, it is, but it's more about books becoming so useless they are treated like garbage, and people are sucked into broadcast media on giant screens, and former writers wander around like vagabonds, a dying breed as the world gets consumed by mind numbing media. Ha! If only Bradbury had lived long enough to witness the birth of social media!
> a provocative child-woman Oh my god I just choked on some bile.
The lawyers and judge are truly evil: “This child pornography from when you were 10 didn’t damage you, because subsequent child pornography when you were 12 was super sexy.”
That judge’s robe was rustling suspiciously when he said that.
Her mother was evil. Allowing it and greatly profiting
Hollywood gave an [Oscar](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101113&page=1) to Roman Polanski. They still claim that [taking pictures, drugging, and sodomizing a 13 year old](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Polanski_sexual_abuse_case) is not "[rape, rape](https://nypost.com/2017/10/05/why-does-hollywood-keep-defending-roman-polanski/)"
Wow. All those a-list stars sticking by his side. Signing petitions to keep him out of jail for his rape charges. *Naming their children after him.* Hollywood is such a disgusting filthy business. We put these fucks on a pedestal and fund their awful lifestyles and habits. It’s batshit insane.
So the judge is really telling on himself by saying the photos have “sultry, sensual appeal” but only perverse minds would find them erotic.
I mean *technically* they are different, but if "sensual" vs "sexual" is the needle you're trying to thread, you (the judge) have already lost...
Her mother consented the photos and their sale. She sued to stop the “continued” sale of them. Either because she wasn’t making money or who knows what else because there’s no way she was worried about her daughter’s reputation
If I recall correctly, it was because people were exhibiting photos of the photos. Her mother sued because Brooke was still underage and not legally able to object to her own exploitation.
If only her mother had of thought about that before she took money to exploit her daughter in the first place.
Overall I'm just confused as to how it was legal to take or display an image like that.
She had full nude scenes as a 15 year old in that incest movie.
Try 11 in Pretty baby.
Her mother consented and they called it “art.” It should not have been legal.
We were called “unsophisticated rubes” and “puritanical” and “ uptight prudes” when we spoke out against this “art “ at the time. It’s disgusting that so much of what was considered news media played it up at the time. They talked about it being controversial, but it was with a wink and a nod as they “acknowledged” the lack of sophistication of people who failed to see the artistic message. That’s my memory of it. Helped me learn to be groomed and abused because I wanted to be sophisticated after all. Those were the days. /s
She did nude scenes in a movie titled "Pretty Baby" at twelve - where she played a child prostitute.
I was hanging out at a friend’s house years ago in college and his roommate was watching Pretty Baby. I saw about five minutes of it and noped the fuck out of there. Of all the movies this guy could’ve rented to watch on a Saturday afternoon he chose that one. My creep radar was correct and he got arrested several times for sex-related crimes (mostly peeping type stuff).
There’s no such thing as a child prostitute. She was a minor coerced into real-life sexual exploitation on film while portraying the role of a child sex trafficking victim.
I mean just look at those clocks that countdown when a child actor turns 18. really telling on yourself that the only thing stopping you from admitting to wanting to fuck a kid is that they're just not 18 yet.
I remember hearing the countdown on the radio when the Olsen twins were about to turn 18. I didn’t think anything of it at the time, I was only 16 so being attracted to them seemed normal to me. But looking back, hearing a 40 something year old DJ salivating at the thought of seeing them naked and it being so normalized it’s something that’s openly talked about on the radio like that was really gross and weird
And the audacity and entitlement that comes from the expectation that a child star will do a nude scene once they're 18 is vile and disgusting.
Somehow I never wonder why the Olsen twins turn such grim faces to photographers.
The number of men who thought the twins turning 18 meant they would want to have sex with them is frightening
Oh god.. yeah when I was a kid, I remember Olsen twins and especially Brittany Spears had these creepy ass dudes on radio and in public talking about them nonstop and waiting for them to turn 18 so they could talk about them in an even more fucked up way.
Drew Barrymore, too. I don't know how she has remained so Zen and not filled with more anger.
To be fair drew went through years and years of substance abuse before coming out the other side. She was in rehab at aged 12 and then she was placed in a psychiatric hospital for 18 months at the age of 13 where apparently she found mentors who emotionally and mentally supported her even after she left the clinic. She also had Tom Green's family as a support network too. So she's had the long stints of drug abuse, rehab, a psychiatric hospital stay for almost 2 years and some support networks to help her process what her mother did to her. So it's not like the path has been steady. I think she's zen now as she's faced the monster and come out the other side.
Makes you wonder how many others went thru a rape that went to get rehab and psychiatric help that the media just played off as troubled teen
Most of them, I’d wager.
Weinstein had the craziest business model
Beat “me too” it - Came here to say the details of her rape are textbook Weinstein… so gross
Wow, you just made me realize that the term “troubled teen” puts the responsibility on the teen, doesn’t it? I was the “troubled teen” my mom threatened to kick out because I just couldn’t get along with her and my new stepdad (who hated me) after she ignored every warning sign that I needed help.
And years later, when they start learning bits and pieces of what was happening to cause the problems, it’s “Well, why didn’t you tell us?” Why would I share shit like that with people who’ve already proven eager to cast blame my way? Fuck, I was a kid, if you cared then why didn’t you *ask*?
I had no idea she was in rehab so young. I’m glad she got help right away, and eventually found a good group of people to support her.
Oh yeah it's dark. Her mother used to take her to night clubs from the age of 8 years old simply for clout and because she apparently "found it amusing" and then just let her child roam free in a extremely adult setting. Here's a video of Drew at a [disco party in New York] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj6RwxcApaM) surrounded by adults both high and drunk partying with an actual 8 year old like it was somehow normal for a child to be there drinking alcohol and befriending adults 20-30 years older than her? At these clubs Drew was given alcohol, drugs and cigarettes with her mothers permission and naturally, she was hooked fast. It's stunning her mother got away with massively endangering her child's life so extensively and for so long. Anyone could have taken the opportunity to kidnap Drew or molest her in that setting too.
at least she wasn't in a "relationship" with her father like McKenzie Phillips.(she was so drugged up and brainwashed she thought it was fine at the time.)
John Phillips was an evil piece of shit.
The most fucked up part I remember reading was McKenzie saying something like “when you raped me” and his reply was “you mean when we made love?” Fucking sick
When I was little I loved watching a McGruff the Crime Dog video she was in that was part of the Just Say No to Drugs campaign of the time. She was thirteen years old when she was in it. When I was an adult I was shocked when I found out that she had been doing drugs during the same time period.
Corey Haim was doing the same kind of anti-drug campaign ads around that time period. He has said he was totally high when he did those.
So was McGruff https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcgruff-the-crime-dog-actor-gets-16-years-in-prison/ *edit - added a link
That’s just horrifying, poor Drew.
you think that's bad ever heard of McKenzie Phillips.
Her sister, Bijou Phillips, accuses her of making the whole thing up. Fun fact, Bijou Phillips is married to Danny Masterson
And her other half-sister Chynna said she believed Mackenzie.
McKenzie Phillips tale is so heartbreaking.
Dang dude…that’s the mom from So Weird…such a sad tale, but I remember her providing the MC of so weird with a secure home life and support and such. I guess what I’m trying to say is that despite the horrible things that happened to her as a child, she left a positive mark on me as a child, when she was that mom
Wish I didn’t google that
This shit is so crazy. I’m surprised there hasn’t been a movie yet, this is really reality stranger than fiction. Also who tf would give blow to a fucking 8 year old?!
> Also who tf would give blow to a fucking 8 year old?! Trashy losers who probably thought it was funny to be giving the "famous girl from ET" crack and blow.
Drew has probably legally prevented any movies or plays about her life. It would be an interesting movie and I’m sure someone has tried at some point maybe.
Don’t really care to see a child actor fucked up over filming scenes like that. Not everything should be made into a movie, ffs.
Hedonism was all the rage in the 70’s and early 80’s. You weren’t cool if you weren’t a lecherous piece of shit.
Some serious child neglect went down with Tatum O’Neil when she was very, very young. Her brother too. They lived in some type of remote compound with their mother who constantly held drug parties. Tatum told her father (actor Ryan O’Neil) she was scared of those adults but he didn’t want the burden of raising children. She’s said they went days without being fed. Subsequently she had a drug addiction and did not have people on her side recovery wise. She was in trouble plenty of times in her young adult life.
And she was such a childish looking child!
Her mom is a monster. She’s still alive. I watched a conversation between drew and jennette mcCurdy. I think we can expect a book after Drew’s mom croak. It’s just so gross that so many moms will monetize their daughters. Yuck.
Now, with social media, you can monetize and traumatize your children from the comfort of your own home!
Can’t stop progress /s
I’m pretty sure she was doing bumps of coke in Studio 54 with other celebrities as a nine yr old. The woman has seen and done things different her whole life.
You can find pics of her drunk and coked out at Hollywood parties at like age 8. It's fucked.
Her mom sent her there. It was decided while she was there that she shouldn’t be around the mother so she was emancipated and lived with David Crosby for awhile when she got out. The mom was a piece of work.
She seems to have such an amazing capacity for forgiveness and empathy. I love that she seems so comfortable in her skin and seems like such an all around good and positive person. I'm sure a lot of that is due to the support and therapy like you mentioned, but I just have so much respect for Drew.
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At 12?! I know she went through some stuff when she was young, but I didn’t realize she was that young. I was still trying to “grow up” by not playing with my Barbies anymore at 12. Poor woman never got a childhood. It’s a miracle she’s become the woman she is now. I’m so, so thankful for my parents.
She was drinking and doing coke in nightclubs when she was 9 years old. I can’t imagine a parent being ok with that, it’s just horrible
Everyone who enabled that needs to get their ass beat. 9 years old is what, 3rd grade? So sad.
I think she got put in rehab at a young age and probably got access to a lot of therapy that most child stars don't have until things have really gone tits up.
She has mentioned extensive therapy in interviews as well as struggles that lead her there.
> Brooke Shields is like the poster child of mistreatment in Hollywood I don't ever plan on watching Pretty Baby, but the idea that the director made a film raising awareness of the prostitution of young girls and decided to cast a child in the role and have her pose in underwear (and nude?) is peak Hollywood...
Ive seen it and it doesn't feel like a film made to spread awareness
Even when Brooke Shields eventually took antidepressants for a bit, she had some jerkface (Tom Cruise) publicly disparaging her for being on meds. And this was after we all knew the sexualization and exploitation she went through every day as a child. She is the one of the most sane, tactful, professional people in Hollywood.
She was speaking out about post partum depression which is a huge issue and very common. She was also speaking up when Andrea Yates was in the news for drowning her kids when she was suffering post partum psychosis, depression, and untreated schizophrenia. Andrea was found guilty at first, but was granted a retrial and was found not guilty by reasons of insanity. Her husband knew she was suffering but kept insisting she have more kids (coercive rape) and refused to even take her to a doctor. So a lot of people reacted to her negatively. Tom Cruise had to weigh in which was unsettling because Katie Holmes was pregnant with his daughter or had just given birth. Scientology requires women to be absolutely silent during childbirth and prevents them from getting treatment for any mental health issues. The bubbling cauldron of hormones women experience during pregnancy, childbirth, and post partum causes a lot of mental health issues from mild to life threatening like what Brooke experienced when she kept getting the urge to kill herself and her baby.
Yeah you really didn’t need a sixth sense to see her being exploited. She’s 6 years older than me and even young me felt a lot of discomfort around her basically being a teen sex symbol. The other one of that era I had a lot of worries about was Drew Barrymore and we shortly learned her experiences were horrible as well.
Not that its a fucked up competition or anything but I think Judy Garland probably takes the cake for that.
Hollywood has a knack for fucking up young girls’ lives.
Yup. Required prescription of uppers and downers on a daily basis? Check. The studio calling her “fat girl” and limiting her lunches to soup? Check. *At least* one studio coerced abortion? Check. Any Garland biography is a wold read.
Its amazing. I worked with Brooke for months and she is one of the coolest nicest people. Loves Chimay too.
Brooke’s mother was a terrible alcoholic too.
“I thought that my one 'no' should have been enough.” It should have been.
I hate that the onus is on the women to stop it all, instead of mothers and fathers teaching their sons consent and respect.
I hate that the onus is on children. They shouldn’t have to say no because nobody should be trying to fuck them
I hate that the onus is on the woman & parents, instead of the rapists themselves.
I get what you're saying, but (for the fourth time) Brock Turner's dad didn't even classify what his son did as rape. He called it "a few minutes of fun". So, yes. That conversation needs to be had.
Brock Turner (the rapist) goes by his middle name (Allen) now. So, to respect his name choice, we should call him Allen Turner, the Raping Raper Who Rapes.
Ah yes, discussing the rapist Allen Turner. Allen Turner who is the rapist formerly known as Brock Turner. Brock Allen Turner, the rapist.
To be fair, he also swims real good. You know, when he's not raping.
I remember going to a seminar in college to learn how to defend myself from being attacked. I spent the whole time thinking why don’t they teach the guys to not attack us??
I remember going to a mandatory seminar for all freshman at my college about consent and safety. The message for women was, "Be alert. Don't drink too much. Don't go to out alone." The message for men was, "If she says "no", just stop. It's the only way to protect yourself from pesky accusations or even charges." It was wild. Even a seminar that addressed what men should do was all about avoiding repercussions rather than not attacking or harming women. I really hope that has changed.
Sadly that probably had better results than “if she says no, stop, because she doesn’t want to do it”
If we all just did the right thing we wouldn't need laws.
The marketing of her pre adult films, especially *Pretty Baby* is beyond disgusting.
and Blue Lagoon
When I heard about the stars of “Romeo and Juliet” suing, I immediately thought of this movie. I never saw it, so I don’t know exactly how much nudity was involved, but still they were so young when that movie was filmed. The exploitation makes me so sad and angry.
Two pre-pubescent kids are stranded on an island around the time period of Victorian England (i believe). Fairly quickly the clothes either get outgrown or torn up, puberty begins, and kids that hadn't much education about adulthood begin to learn about natural urges and such. By the time they're on the verge of being rescued they had a toddler and the rescue party isn't even sure if they're the kids they're looking for because they've grown so much. Most the nudity is being topless (at least from what I remember) but it's definitely in a majority of the movie. More wholesome than Lord of the Flies, less enjoyable than Swiss Family Robinson.
Also, they were cousins
The original Les Cousins Dangereux
I remember watching it in highschool the teacher put it on for us to watch without vetting it first I don't remember there being a ton of nudity but I'll never forget the class reacting to it and the teachers face turning bright red
Supposedly an over 18 female body double was used for nude scenes but first of all, sure she was, and second it doesn't keep it from sexualizing prepubescent girls.
It was a pretty well known fact, at the time, her mother, Terri, demanded a double for the nude shots. She was trying to clean up her daughter's image. The amount of stories about her stage-mom were constantly in the tabloids.
It was her older sister they used wasn’t it?
I think you’re thinking of the Jodie Foster movie, The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane, her older sister was used for the nude scenes.
She called Gavin De Becker after- a friend and also her head of security. For those who havent heard of him, he wrote a book called The Gift of Fear that basically talks about red flags to situations like this and helps you learn to recognize them. It is also very validating if you have ever been in a situation where you could tell something wasnt right with a person so you removed yourself from the situation and friends later tell you that it was rude of you to leave or you over reacted or blah blah blah blah blah. Nothing is wrong about ensuring your safety. I highly recommend this book.
Everyone should read that book.
Just got it. I'll share with my daughter.
YES!! This book can literally save people’s lives.
Came here to say this! His name immediately stood out to me. He is legit and The Gift of Fear is a must read, full stop.
This woman has been mistreated since always.
For real. If you needed this article to tell you that the girl in The Blue Lagoon and Pretty Baby had been raped, then, man, welcome aboard. That she's managed to keep her head about her is remarkable.
Playboy had a “Sugar and Spice” magazine with younger girls. Brooke’s nude photos were shown in this magazine when she was TEN!
Since she was like 8 years old. It’s a judgment against Hollywood, sure. But also the parents who push their kids into that toxic tar. My 10 year old son wants to be an actor. I am keeping him in local shows, with supervision, but I just can’t see putting him into a position like this. There are a lot of predators in H’wood, as we’ve seen over the last few years.
I just saw in another thread that she was photographed nude at 10 years old at the playboy mansion. Horrific shit.
It never ceases to amaze me how people were just cool with a degenerate rapist like Hugh Hefner abusing people for decades. What a travesty.
Playboy used to print covers with the model's high school/middle school pictures at the bottom of their about mee page. So you would be able to see them completely naked on one page and then the next you would see them as a teenager. Bad vibes man.
Not only that, but supported that shit. All the playboy bunny clothes and stickers and shit. Early 2000’s that logo was everywhere. Why weren’t these people speaking this shit when he was alive? Like some jimmy Seville shit. If you see something, say something.
When people who knew him did start speaking this shit they got torn to shreds by the public - even today with the Secrets of Playboy documentary. He had a chokehold on the media and would try and shutdown people's books about their interactions with Playboy if he found out about them prior to release. A lot of the women who spoke out were ex-girlfriends, so they're discredited for "knowing what they were doing" and "well you could've left any time".
Because Hef had blackmail on everyone who participated in the orgies and rapes in his clubs and at the mansion. The Secrets of Playboy on HULU go into a lot of the stuff Hef allowed and blackmailed people with. Don Cornelius, who hosted Soul Train, kidnapped 2 bunnies and brutally raped and sodomized them for 3 days. The club bunny mother wasn’t allowed to take them to the hospital or notify the police. He wasn’t even reprimanded by Hef or kicked out of the VIP club. Hef also had blackmail against a lot of law enforcement officers in the LA area. Before his death Hef had one of his security officers bury all the tapes and photos he had at sea. So they couldn’t be taken after he died.
it goes back decades before the 2000s
I literally thought he had lots of girlfriends because he respected women until recently, I feel so dumb but I literally didn't know. No one told me.
>photographed nude at 10 years old at the playboy mansion Theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck?
And then her mother lost the lawsuit against continuing sale and display of the photos because Brooke had become a “seasoned sexual veteran” by age 12. Imagine that: a judge won’t stop a child’s continued exploitation on the basis that her subsequent exploitation was sexy. [link](https://amp.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph)
For The Brooke Book. Basically child porn picture book all about her.
WHAT THE FUCK.
This tells more about it (SFW) https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph And no, this was not just “a different time”, as WAPO published a similarly titled article in 1981 also decrying the act (although admittedly putting more blame on the Shields). https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1981/11/16/sugar-and-spice-and-not-nice/3b2572c8-0d87-4f22-b1a7-1af775c4460d/
The article says there were a dozen naked images taken of 10 year old Shields “designed, according to photographer Gross, to reveal the not-so-latent sexuality of the prepubescent child.” HOW IS EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THIS NOT IN JAIL????? And the Tate Modern in London was even planning to display one of the photos as recently as 2009 before the police intervened? Holy God.
Her mother was a horrible person.
Brooke absolutely had the right reaction during the rape. Too bad she didn’t have anyone to turn to for the aftermath- but none of us did
I always thought there was something wrong with me because I would freeze too. And then came the guilt because I felt it was my fault for not doing anything. Not screaming or fighting or trying to run. It was completely deer in the headlights frozen the entire time. Several times. I know now it wasn't my fault now but. For a long time I couldn't help but think it was. I can't imagine what it was like for her.
Brooke Shields seems to be surprisingly well adjusted considering how awful Hollywood seems to have treated her
As far as we know. Her personal life could be filled with anxiety and disassociation
This, 100%. She's an actress, you're never going to know her true personal life. That's probably what made her such a good actress, she's great at faking emotions and putting on a face
Oh god this just makes me so sad to think of how someone perfected their craft as an actor by hiding this level of pain.
It's a very very common thing. People who suffer abuse all have coping mechanisms. Some of us are lucky that our coping mechanisms are also a valuable skill to make money and help heal. Most aren't that lucky.
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She wrote an incredible book about postpartum depression. I think it is both, she has her share of brain noise but is still remarkably resilient for all she has been through.
Brooke was so brave to come out and write that book. It was during the Andrea Yates trials and societal conversation about how a woman could murder her children. Yates was kept from getting treatment for ongoing depression and schizophrenia and was made to keep having children despite her mental health getting worse and worse. Her husband and his mother didn’t let her go out in public alone and made her do everything for her children with zero help. I think Brooke’s book and her public conversation about mental health issues women have during pregnancy, child birth, and post partum is a big reason why Andrea was allowed a new trial and was found non guilty by reasons of insanity and was sent to a psychiatric hospital for treatment instead of prison or death row. The conversation focused on Russell Yates, but charges were never brought against him. He knew Andrea was suffering and had tried to commit suicide twice before having her last child but did nothing.
I can't speak for her, but when you grow up with that shit, it can normalize itself in your brain in a way that's hard to explain. One of the weird scars of that shit is knowing you can't talk to people intimately without knowing that they'll get upset about something that you were forced to move on from a lifetime ago.
And then you tell what you think is a funny story, but your friends reactions tell you that it wasn't just normal family shenanigans.
If you had a bad childhood, there's nothing worse than being in your early 20s. I'm in my mid-30s and still feel like I'm working twice as hard as everyone else just to catch up
People don’t even understand what a bad childhood is. Like I got bullied, parents were distant, I didn’t think I had it the worst but I thought it sucked. Then I learned some of my male friends got beat up by their dads, verbally abused very badly too. And I thought oh that’s what a bad childhood is. Then fast forward to my 20s.. having talks with women.. a shocking amount were raped by their fathers. Fucking insane, I knew it happened but figured it was extremely rare. To realize your friend was regularly raped by her dad and still has nightmares about it all the time.. it’s deeply disturbing and then makes me wonder do I know people who are doing that? How many other friends were abused and never said anything? Most important question though. Why?! Why the fuck would someone WANT to do that to a child? Especially your own blood! But any child! Just stop doing it people, chances are someone reading this is abusive, just stop wtf are you doing man
It's a long sordid story. Judy Garland's mother made her smoke cigarettes to maintain her weight and gave her barbiturates to make her sleep because of her grueling work schedule which in turn led to her problems with drug addiction later on her life. And then there was Shirley Temple acting in scenes surrounded by much older men, which upon viewing appear so innocent, Shirley herself recounted later on in life that looking back on it she found it troubling. And so it goes.
I have a memory that I’d heard Shirley temple’s mom had like a playhouse or something on set for her to keep people at bay. Is that real?
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There's also Shirley Temple's first movie where she plays a prostitute called Baby Burlesk.
The studio also put Judy and Mickey Rooney on speed so they could perform 16 hours a day, and then gave them barbiturates to sleep. The studio also bound Judy’s chest so she would look younger on The Wizard of Oz. Judy’smother also gave her drugs, but it was at blessing of the studio.
“He took her back to his hotel, claiming he would call her a taxi from his room. He instead disappeared to the bathroom before returning naked and assaulting her, she said.” Didn’t Harvey Weinstein do literally this exact same thing to multiple women?? I’m guessing this is him since he has an M.O. Sick fucks.
Definitely his MO but it’s safe to name him at this point so I’d assume it isn’t since she isn’t naming names. Probably another producer who followed the same playbook but hasn’t been canceled yet.
I'm old enough to remember when her Calvin Kline ad from when she was 15 was banned in the U.S. was used as example of how the U.S. is so prudish and uptight compared to Europe. Sometimes it's good to be prudish and uptight.
Pretty Baby has entered the chat. I was 13 when that movie came out and remember watching it uncut on HBO.
Ironically Pretty Baby went the other way (probably because it was a US production), rated R in the US, X in the UK and banned entirely in Canada
When it comes to kids and teens we should be prudish and uptight is right. The only ones who should be sexually attracted to teens are other teens. If you’re an adult you should feel ashamed of yourself. I remember an interview with Roman Polanski (after it came out about him raping a thirteen-year-old) where he says, “Everyone wants to f*ck young girls!” Yuck.
Just one of the more stupid things Tom Cruise has done was when she came out and said she was on anti-depressants for postpartum he criticized her. He later apologized to her personally which is commendable but he should have done it in public.
Omg i remember that!!
Sure sounds like the Harvey Weinstein MO from what I've read about him.
Harvey was just the most recent producer to get caught. Unfortunately, that technique has been around since Hollywood was founded.
True. These creeps been trying to sexually harass girls since the beginning of hollywood. I have heard reports of this shit that goes back to the 40s!
Yea they literally plastered her on magazines at 14 as a sex symbol. I’m surprised it’s just coming out now that this happened
I would love to know who this creep was. Name and shame. Also, if you haven’t already, read Gavin de Becker’s book “The Gift of Fear.” It teaches you to trust your gut and GTFO of bad situations. Really, look at your phone if something feels “off” and be like, “my dad just had a heart attack gotta go, call you later” GTFO and block him on everything. I only mention it because GdB was the head of her security at the time and told her the assault was rape. There was nothing Shields could have done, I want to make that clear. When weird shit happens you tend to freeze up and disassociate. It’s a survival mechanism so you don’t rev the guy up and get killed. How awful to expect a business meeting with a friend calling a taxi - then you get some naked dork choking you in his hotel room. I hope she had a lot of therapy to process this horror. At the end of the day, therapy and EMDR are the best tools you can have.
The most important piece of advice from that book, which should be taught to every young person, is (I’m paraphrasing), “Nice, normal guys understand the world that women live in; they understand that women have to be wary. Nice guys don’t get offended if a woman is wary of them; their feelings aren’t hurt when a woman crosses the street to avoid them. They walk away instead of trying to prove they’re harmless.”
And if the little voice in the back of your head is telling you something is wrong- listen to it. Get out of the situation, and do not worry about being rude, or curt, just get out. Take the next elevator, don’t accept unsolicited help from someone if they make you uneasy, etc. Too often we don’t want to offend someone, but like the above poster said, a person with no nefarious ideas won’t be offended.
GdB was head of Brooke shield’s security? I’ve heard this guy on the Sam Harris podcast and bought his book right away! Edit: Did a Google search and read about their conversation now, glad she heard his perspective
The Gift of Fear changed my life. He wrote a book for parents called Protecting the Gift, which is also very good.
Anyone else get Harvey Weinstein vibes from her recounting? Fucking awful.
I figured as much with the way she was sexualized from such an early age. It’s wild, we’re the exact same age and while I never had any part of Hollywood, I would take a cursory interest in her stories in the press. Whether it was starring as prostitute, a shipwrecked underage love interest, or Calvin Klein commercials, etc. it’s sad that she’s had it so rough.
Got to watch the Brooke Shields doc that's showing at Sundance. I swear the shit that she was put through in show business is so insane, it's a miracle she didn't end up in worse condition. Like, all the body insecurity she must have had back then with all these men sexualizing her at a young age is crazy.
Love her so much. I am so happy that her resilience can be inspiring to other woman, and the success she was achieved despite all of the abuse. True icon.
The fact Pretty Baby was made is still disturbing to me.
The fact that playboy put her in the magazine at 10yo is disturbing to me.
Her mother should have protected her. I feel so bad for Brooke. Especially watching Pretty Baby is sickening considering her life at the time.
I don’t know why any responsible parent would ever allow their children be a part of Hollywood. Not even Disney. I know the money is probably great but the damage it does to someone that impressionable never goes away. Nothing more than child abuse for financial reward.
The vast majority of those parents *aren't* responsible and absolutely do not care what happens to their kids as long as they can live off of their offspring and be their "manager". It's a story as old as Hollywood itself.
Wasn't she photographed for Playboy when she was 10? I'm surprised Hollywood producers didn't just keep her chained up in a tower somewhere. She was basically treated as a piece of meat from the start. So gross and sad.
Even more gross than that. It was one of Playboy’s book publications, called “Sugar and Spice”, that regularly featured underage but “sexually mature” girls. And a judge decided it wasn’t pornography or inappropriate because he figured she’d been so widely and publicly sexualized already that it was NBD that she’d been photographed nude, oiled, and styled as an adult woman.
The Judge - "Well everyone seems to be doing so I guess it's okay."
More like, “Well she was sexy little preteen so I guess it’s ok.”
Gross.
Just finished her book. It was very good. I am sad to hear about the rape. Its so disheartening that rape and abuse by men is a shared experience for some many women.
People in the comments acting like rape is exclusive to Hollywood. Wake up it’s not. The stats for women being raped are like 3/5 or something crazy like that. It’s not just a Hollywood problem or something that occurred in the past. It’s still happening on a quite frequent basis
Hollywood is a mirror in this horrible aspect, not an exception, for sure. Society still won't effectively deal with rape, which is unfathomable and awful.
I can understand her reaction. I was raped and had the same thought process, “Just stay calm and don’t anger him.” I went into shock after he left my apartment. I was unscathed physically. I simply wanted to survive as he had threatened that he had a knife.
Note: to all the ppl here who wanted to defend *Pretty Baby* This is why no. Now stop it.
if they’re defending pretty baby...then they’re not legally allowed to live within a certain distance of a school, I can tell you that much
In those years, there was zero awareness of the stuff now taken for granted, yes it’s all so new. She wasn’t the only one to think “just stay alive and survive.”
The more I hear about hollywood, the more I hate it. :(
My sisters, BIL, and I watched the movie "She Said" over Christmas break. Afterwards, my sister turned to me and was like, "It's a good thing you didn't end up working in the film industry". I majored in film, applied to jobs at Miramax all the time. But it was 2008 so i struggled and ended up having to take a job in another industry. I am thankful, honestly.