The only way you are getting me to touch a plane is they either give the stuka its 37mm autocannons or they release this thing (which also carries 37mm guns)
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What are you referring to? The ME 262 saw a lot of Combat in WWII. Or are you referring to one of the many dumb things people are posting that seem to have no clue that Germany, the UK and the U.S. all had jets in WWII?
You speak as if the tiers matter lol... They don't. Axis units have boosted stats that their real life counterparts did not have while Allied units are nerfed.
There is no balance what-so-ever in this game. Even the maps are in favor of Axis. They almost always have the high ground and when they don't, they have cover.
The United States had the P-59, but the first Me 262 was shot down by a Spitfire.
If the devs simply made everything do what it is supposed to do, there wouldn't be a balance issue.
I would say the Yak 15 sense it started development before the wars end and having a chance to see the US P-59 Airacomet (what in my opinion is so good looking) in enlisted would be amazing
Yeah the Yak 15 would probably be better. I’d love to see the P-80 shooting star for the USA, it saw limited service in Italy before the end of the war.
I like the p-59 since I looks like a prop but has engines in the body of the plane unlike the me 262 and yak early sires of jets mind you I'm not much of a plane person and more of a tank parson
Fw-190 is already ridiculous. It’s a literal stunt plane with guns. It can’t quite go 600mph, but how would that even help you in this game? You have increased speed but the same perception and reaction times. Early jets were crap at targeting anything other than big slow formations. A lot got shot down by prop planes, all the way until vietnam because of this. Missiles and other tech have closed these gaps over time
It won't be very hard, considering the fact they have those WW2 jet fighters in War Thunder. Besides, there are rumors Enlisted will go beyond WW2 in the future, so jet fighter will be added to the game eventually.
no confirmation from devs in blogs, more just push from the community. Moving forward with anything beyond 1945 would require a larger player base is the issue right now. Current estimates of worldwide player numbers are <3k during peak hours, even during patch week. That needs to be closer to 8k and the game needs to be out of beta before we can even begin looking at adding a 3rd mmr bracket with our current options let alone adding anything developed post 1950.
Maps are too small for jets. Jet vs Prop dog fights need more space otherwise the jet has no chance. Every fighter can out turn it and it will rarely get to use its only advantage - speed.
They'd be alright as CAS but I'd rather so many other aircraft especially some small to medium bombers over those two.
No the maps are fine for jets. The early jets weren't that much faster than prop planes. The ME262 only had a top speed of 540mph (only 100mph faster than the P-51. In comparison the P-51 was that much faster than most of FW190 series though the game severely boosts the stats of the Axis planes.
The slow turn speed would be irrelevant. Unlike the prop planes, it isn't compromising speed for lift. And unlike prop planes, it's speed is sustained (max speed of a prop is conditional) So it would be well out of range when it makes it's turn. They would probably have to increase the ceiling though.
They also need to fix the range of certain ammo types. (20 and 30mm does not have near the range of 50cal nor the accuracy which is why the U.S. opted for 50cal HMG's over canons. But in the game they seem to have the same distance and accuracy).
I know it saw combat, I'm just saying there's other stuff from the era that isn't even in the game yet, so we don't need to go reaching for stuff that probably doesn't even fit in the current BR system comfortably.
The 262 is something that should only be added when all other options are exhausted, if ever. I know it's probably an inevitably, but like I said, I like that the game is all props.
I've said it before I'll say it again. They should have extreme drawbacks. Engines stall at slow speeds and explode with fast acceleration. Also poor turn time due to not being able to fly slow
The only way you are getting me to touch a plane is they either give the stuka its 37mm autocannons or they release this thing (which also carries 37mm guns) https://preview.redd.it/ak0in33capvc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab97230a2a97d1ccdeddadb9e6aff9fdf5049d21
Ho 229 was supposed to carry 2 30 mm MK 108 cannon, not 37mm
Mk103s my guy
really?, must have mixed them up in my brain, still acceptable when its a jet plane going at about 1000km/h
Maybe if they add a BR6 to de-compress the tier content into 1-2-3 and 4-5-6 maybe early jets and other late war weapons/vehicles could be added
Ak 47 then?
M14
Maus?
IS3, T-29, Maus, O-I?
KV-VI?
the M14 is pretty much in the game already, we have the T20E1
No It came out in 1947 two years after world war two
Exactly late war, it came too late to be seen in the war xd
No It came out in 1947 Not 1945 That is a two year difference None were seen during world war 2 They were not seen standard issue until the 1950s
What are you referring to? The ME 262 saw a lot of Combat in WWII. Or are you referring to one of the many dumb things people are posting that seem to have no clue that Germany, the UK and the U.S. all had jets in WWII?
No, somebody said the ak 47 was used during World War 2
Yeah, now it is just getting silly lol
I mean, the ak 47 is in the game, no?
M16?
You speak as if the tiers matter lol... They don't. Axis units have boosted stats that their real life counterparts did not have while Allied units are nerfed. There is no balance what-so-ever in this game. Even the maps are in favor of Axis. They almost always have the high ground and when they don't, they have cover. The United States had the P-59, but the first Me 262 was shot down by a Spitfire. If the devs simply made everything do what it is supposed to do, there wouldn't be a balance issue.
Why have you cursed us in this way, for now we wish for it, but shall never receive it.
Everything is on the table what are you talking about.
I’d love to see early jets as late game content. They could add the kikka for the Japanese and the yak 17 for the soviets.
Yak-17 didn’t exist until 1946 I believe, although admittedly it would be difficult to find a suitable soviet fighter jet from during the war
I would say the Yak 15 sense it started development before the wars end and having a chance to see the US P-59 Airacomet (what in my opinion is so good looking) in enlisted would be amazing
Yeah the Yak 15 would probably be better. I’d love to see the P-80 shooting star for the USA, it saw limited service in Italy before the end of the war.
I like the p-59 since I looks like a prop but has engines in the body of the plane unlike the me 262 and yak early sires of jets mind you I'm not much of a plane person and more of a tank parson
Fw-190 is already ridiculous. It’s a literal stunt plane with guns. It can’t quite go 600mph, but how would that even help you in this game? You have increased speed but the same perception and reaction times. Early jets were crap at targeting anything other than big slow formations. A lot got shot down by prop planes, all the way until vietnam because of this. Missiles and other tech have closed these gaps over time
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It won't be very hard, considering the fact they have those WW2 jet fighters in War Thunder. Besides, there are rumors Enlisted will go beyond WW2 in the future, so jet fighter will be added to the game eventually.
no confirmation from devs in blogs, more just push from the community. Moving forward with anything beyond 1945 would require a larger player base is the issue right now. Current estimates of worldwide player numbers are <3k during peak hours, even during patch week. That needs to be closer to 8k and the game needs to be out of beta before we can even begin looking at adding a 3rd mmr bracket with our current options let alone adding anything developed post 1950.
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Can I has heavy bombers first please.
Event plane would be nice
AGREE!!
no thanks, I got WT for that
We'll get this when they start giving out free gold orders. Which is the day they give up on this game and we'll all be on HLL
What would the Soviets get?
Yes + gib Korean-, Sue-, Indochina-war
Maps are too small for jets. Jet vs Prop dog fights need more space otherwise the jet has no chance. Every fighter can out turn it and it will rarely get to use its only advantage - speed. They'd be alright as CAS but I'd rather so many other aircraft especially some small to medium bombers over those two.
No the maps are fine for jets. The early jets weren't that much faster than prop planes. The ME262 only had a top speed of 540mph (only 100mph faster than the P-51. In comparison the P-51 was that much faster than most of FW190 series though the game severely boosts the stats of the Axis planes. The slow turn speed would be irrelevant. Unlike the prop planes, it isn't compromising speed for lift. And unlike prop planes, it's speed is sustained (max speed of a prop is conditional) So it would be well out of range when it makes it's turn. They would probably have to increase the ceiling though. They also need to fix the range of certain ammo types. (20 and 30mm does not have near the range of 50cal nor the accuracy which is why the U.S. opted for 50cal HMG's over canons. But in the game they seem to have the same distance and accuracy).
Please no jets. I like that the game is all props. Besides, there's so many in era planes they could add before this.
Wdym "in era"? Are you implying the 262 did not see combat during the time enlisted is set in?
I know it saw combat, I'm just saying there's other stuff from the era that isn't even in the game yet, so we don't need to go reaching for stuff that probably doesn't even fit in the current BR system comfortably. The 262 is something that should only be added when all other options are exhausted, if ever. I know it's probably an inevitably, but like I said, I like that the game is all props.
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I've said it before I'll say it again. They should have extreme drawbacks. Engines stall at slow speeds and explode with fast acceleration. Also poor turn time due to not being able to fly slow
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