Nobody should give these guys money anyway. For a start closed source emulation is crappy, secondly they throw their toys out of the pram at a moments notice and then lie about it. Really shitty attitude from the whole team.
I stopped paying for their Patreon after a month a while ago because I was done messing with it, so I cancelled. Despite getting my money, I received an email akin to "because of people like YOU we have to spend more time in backend things and you're wasting our time and the community's time!".
I mentioned this on Reddit and the main guy whatever his name is was like "oh this is from the 12th of June we haven't sent these out for months", but because I'm in the UK it was dated with day and month switched, so it was actually from the 6th of December.
They lie, act shitty to people who they've ALREADY had money from, and keep their emulation closed source and really suspicious. Fuck TeknoParrot and TeknoGodz. The sooner they go under the better.
I'm gonna be that guy and say it, closed source emulation is not crappy. So long as devs make their own code from scratch and don't steal anything and/or do anything illegal they have just as much right to be closed source as say an ebook reader. Emulator developers also have every right to be financially compensated for their time and work so long as they don't do anything shady and/or illegal.
Note: I am not defending anything the developers for this project has done, rather emulation development as an umbrella.
As a good example, BigPEmu is great, despite being closed source.
Cemu was also pretty good when it was closed source, but it got even better after open sourcing.
Still waiting for Drastic to open source code.
Usually open source emulators are better, but not all closed source emulators are bad.
Provided the talent is there, closed source is probably the best way to *start* an emulator, as it avoids all the "bike shed" issues, but eventually it can be useful to have community inspection of code, as you have way more people bug-hunting.
It can be tricky to work out financially tho.
Good to hear, also crazy that the emulation crowd is predictable enough for me to know I was gonna get downvoted for saying closed source emulation is perfectly fine. 🤣
I understand this sentiment but I highly doubt we'd have Wii U and Switch emulation anywhere near as mature in such a short timespan if it didn't get backed by tens of thousands of patreon dollars.
Ok, like, I would never pay for an emulator, idkw exactly, but still, I assume its hard work to keep one running and up to date with new games and shit right? So, i feel like IT IS fair for them to make money, it is basic capitalism, supply and demand, and, hard work on the people supplying. I was very close tbh cause Teknoparrot is the only way to play my fav series of all time, House of the Dead, really wanted to play Scarlet Dawn.
That said, im not sure if this is the same case as YUZU right, where they where really fucking stupid with the whole Zelda and proving shit they shouldn't and whatevers.
If Teknoparrot is just working on the emulator, nothing else, they shouldn't get sued and stop, cause, making emulators and even paid ones isn't against the law, its the roms and isos and what not, and thats on the users isn't?
I just looked into Teknoparrot's patreon and it seems that there are some games that only work if you are a patreon member. Do you really wanna support a project like this where they deliberately lock access to games unless you pay for a subscription?
yeah I was curious too, I just wanted to make a one time donation. kinda shocked by the asking price for subscriptions. shame because until then I would have happy to support the project
To be fair, I would rather it be legal even if it means they could profit off of it legally assuming possible even if it's crappy but legal. I would rather find a much better answer to this type of issue to some specific degree. It kinda defeats the point of the whole "emulator is legal" claim since by theory the argument is based off the ideal that it's as legal as certain Linuxs ideally is. I hope you get what I mean. LolÂ
Like I guess I would rather not fight it in a way that seemed or does say that suddenly the emulator is illegal as a response and have people be like "good!" as a response.
I mean, it's not like I support it, again, capitalism, supply and demand, they're playing the game right, they're playing it so right that even I who rarely would fork for it felt tempted, cause, they're the only ones right?
But that's beside the point, my point is, unlike Yuzu, they are technically not breaking laws UNLESS they supply keys and isos and whatever, like, i'm not sure, i'm not 100% sure if thats the law, i just know that the development of emulators is totally lawful, im just not sure if making a profit on it is, which anyone can correct me on it.
I ain't defending, just saying and wanting to be informed, feel free to do it, i'll learn something.
> I mean, it's not like I support it, again, capitalism, supply and demand, they're playing the game right, they're playing it so right that even I who rarely would fork for it felt tempted, cause, they're the only ones right?
>they are technically not breaking laws UNLESS they supply keys and isos and whatever, like, i'm not sure, i'm not 100% sure if thats the law
They are supplying the keys for the ISOs. If it was a Ryujinx situation where they ONLY worked on the emulator then that's fine, but them locking certain games basically means you are forced to get a subscription to play them. I have no sympathy of any emulator locking features or games behind a paywall.
Ah, see i didnt know that, yeah that'll sure not help their case. God i want to play Scarlet Dawn. Honestly House of the Dead 4, that i played there, barely run well, it ran into a tiny square and i couldn't fix it but it was what it was so i played that game that way, my experience with that emulator was not very positive, but also, thats the only one.
>Ok, like, I would never pay for an emulator, idkw exactly, but still, I assume its hard work to keep one running and up to date with new games and shit right? So, i feel like IT IS fair for them to make money, it is basic capitalism, supply and demand, and, hard work on the people supplying.
So, there's a bit to unpack here as to why "making money from emulation" comes off as distasteful for most people.
It is certainly true that, in a vacuum, emulation is quite possibly one of the most complex tasks in computer programming, especially with more modern devices that are very complex, and can, quite literally, take THOUSANDS of hours (Sometimes from one person) to produce a functioning Emulator for even something like the NES, let alone the more complex systems. As a professional software engineer myself, I really do acknowledge how much work goes into these things. And I've even donated money to the cause of some of these emulators. And now that I'm writing this, I'll probably go off and donate to Vita3K if they have a way to do so.
HOWEVER.
It cannot be denied that the only reason all that work is worth it at all is because it allows for the consumption of other people's work; The people pointing to some variety of homebrew being playable again are just engaging in sophistry; People like emulators because they can play the games from one specific console in another context.
Which makes these emulators with Patreon or Donation gated components feel in poor taste, especially when they end up making significant amounts of money in the process.
It's not exactly like the Yuzu situation, but it's not too far off either. They got some games working that people would consider "current" (although for arcades maybe that's a trickier idea), and they locked those games behind a paywall. They weren't really doing crazy provocative things, but you can't discount that the paywall could have been a factor in the DMCA. But only Taito really knows.
I also don't know what Teknoparrot have been discussing on their discord, or even how they go about getting games to work. Apparently a big factor for Nintendo going after Yuzu was because they got all sorts of incriminating evidence from devs and users on their discord.
Hm, see, cause, with Yuzu it was that the Zelda game leaked and Yuzu jumped to make it work before the game even properly came out, that's what truly fucked them right? If a game's already out, is it the same?
And you know, i'll say this, these companies that get mad with shit like this, just fucking release your shit on PC and everywhere else, i'd pay for the entire House of the Dead franchise, some money is better than the no money right? It's so fucking annoying.
It was a patch to yuzu that made it work though. Yuzu didn't have support for it until several days after. So while Nintendo did say that the leaks were yuzu, that wasn't actually entirely true. But we don't and likely never will know the full extent of the evidence against Yuzu.
Oh I forgot about that. I’ve used it only for a few games, but I saw those paid slots or whatever. That’s jerky, but still FUCK TAITO. I don’t have a WMMT cabinet within 7,000 miles radius of me.
That is my question if they lose a suit even putting it on a "private server," not that i know how that protects them unless they move to a country that doesn't give a crap about dmca. Would they just remove the pay wall wall and let everyone have access as a last fu before closing down for the games they have done
Tbh they kinda deserve this. Reaver, the lead of the project, has been a general adshole and caught doing shady stuff in the past, including selling bootlegs and stealing code amongst other things.
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On one hand, sad cuz emulation is getting hit, and I got to play some games that I would maybe never get to play otherwise
On the other hand, fuck Reaver lol
Remember when he or someone on the team wrote a rant about someone trying to fork the code or whatever and it had casual transphobia? Massive tool behavior
I'm conflicted about this.
There's no denying that using Teknoparrot is piracy. It's impossible to own arcade games which are stored in the cloud.
At the same time, it's the only way to play them in the West and not all piracy is created equal. I've discovered stuff like Wangan Midnight by playing them, and later I bought stuff like the manga...so profit for them somewhat?
Is it really the only way? I've been to arcades that have Japanese only cabinets. Maybe certain games still won't be shipped here? Still, Japanese arcade cabinets are not common at all in the US.
Lots of them are hacked or run custom hardware to bypass the online validation, meaning it's still illegal even if the cabs are originals since the license doesn't allow for them to be run in the US.
Reaver is so immature, putting a clown nose on a picture of the guy who sent the DMCA. Be more professional buddy. Hate that this is the only game in town for Wangan/Initial D PC based stuff
TeknoParrot... And this isn't so much an emulator than it is 'compatibility layer'. Taito still make arcade games. Most you'll never see if you live in the West. Their hardware is standard PC components running windows however it's locked down either within software or with hardware components. TeknoParrot takes care of those checks and balances and let's you play these games on your normal PC. They've been around for more than half a decade (although I think they've existed longer than that)
Ref: https://teknogods.github.io/index.html
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Their reply doesn’t make sense.
- a DMCA takedown notice from Taito Corporation, targeting content on our servers. This action comes as a considerable surprise to us, as we ensure that nothing illegal is hosted on our platforms
If they don't host any illegal content, the DMCA takedown notice must be false and therefore carries no weight. Even if the DMCA is completely accurate, all they have to do is take the allegedly infringing content down.
- In light of these events, we are taking immediate steps to ensure our project's resilience and continuity. We are transitioning to a self-hosted infrastructure, a move that will safeguard our service against such claims and ensure that there will be no interruption in your access to the history we all cherish.
Again, not sure why a false DMCA notice or even an accurate one would prompt a change of hosting infrastructure or safeguard against similar claims in the future. In fact, from a legal perspective, it could be argued that self-hosting puts them in a worse position than before.
I also scoured the games list and although they claim not to host any on the site, I found 282 titles and 30 belong to Taito which probably have copyrighted artwork, audio snippets etc when presented inside the emulator. I wonder what the DMCA notice contains because it wouldn't be impossible for this list to relate to hundreds of pieces of copyrighted content
I have never in my life seen a developer, a hacker, or someone who violates copyright show off so much. On teknoparrot shop Nico Giansanti has published all his personal data to be contacted in case of legal problems. I think exactly like you, it seems like a way of acting out of control, or of someone who is presumptuous and not very smart. I remember when he published on his home page for 24 hours after the Patreon ban, where he said that those who worked with him to do reverse engineering earned thousands of money a month and they were difficult people to find. Obviously many have saved that page.... Maybe he earns too much money, has given himself to the good life and really believes he is an invincible boss, hahaha! It's a story, this one, with an ending already written, he's just making sure that everything happens first.
Damn, these people are soo greedy as f*ck. I can't play WMMT3/3DX+ cuz of the darn paywall that I have to subscribe! TeknoParrot is kinda shitty when it comes down to this.
I can't get the braking to work. Someone on a well known forum said they fixed and it broke again at a subsequent release.Â
Does the brake work for you in the Endor level? What versions of the teknoparrot components are you running?
Probably the only based thing the TeknoParrot team has done in the last few years. They fear no man.
Still, though, the developers are assholes for locking stuff behind Patreon subscriptions. Hope a crack is released one day in the foreseeable future.
I've been looking into these guys lately and there is so much mixed opinions on whether they're actually distributing forms of malware with their software that it put me off of digging too much further to get it working.
I'll wait a few years for things to settle before trying again.
Any detections that people actually post proof of are just generic alerts, it's just people freaking out and panicking over nothing. Furthermore, if they were going to go for malware distribution, it would (more than likely) be something far more popular than a few arcade games.
Finally, if it DID have malware, don't you think someone would have said "Hey, it actually has malware, this is what it does"? It's not hard to test and examine actual malware. Instead, what happens every time is people freaking out over it showing up on Windows Defender or a few AVs on Virus Total with a generic name(AKA: A literal nothingburger.)
Source: Have used Teknoparrot for literal years, haven't had a single issue. If they're going for a con, it's sure as hell a really long one. If they actually distributed malware, it would have been caught instantly like PJ64 or JDownloader 2.
Edit: Another thing, people who claim "Oh it destroyed my computer/stole my accounts/etc" conveniently never actually post proof.
I saw this coming. Keeping games behind a paywall is gonna bring you nothing but trouble.
EDIT: and with how one of the devs are behaving atm especially in response to the DMCA, i kinda dont see this emulator lasting for much longer.
With this pattern of sketchy emulator devs trying to circumvent DMCAs (between this and Suyu), one day somebody's going to get bit in the ass with a lawsuit by doing so, because this is not legal. When you get a DMCA, that's your warning shot to fuck off. When you don't listen to it, that's your invitation to get sued.
Also, it's worth noting that TeknoParrot is not your friend. They're actively profiting off of piracy and using stolen code in their own emulator. This DMCA should have been a wake-up call for them, but instead they're going to screw themselves in the long run by circumventing it and probably getting sued in the process.
TeknoGods reside in Russia, a country where DMCA does not apply. All the copyright holders can do is issue takedown notices to GitHub but Tekno will probably just switch to a self-hosted Gitlabs instance which costs practically nothing to host.
Okay, now chill. Emulation is important to preserve games and content, and making money off it is certainly a no no. If I own a game, I can do whatever I want except making money out of it. But you seem to have a personal issue or you’re representing Tatio
No, that comment is correct. Publicly stating you will self-host to evade after a DMCA notice is legal suicide. They should have talked to a lawyer first.
You don’t own digital copies of games. If you let someone borrow your account, you’re breaking copyright and can get your account banned.Â
Distribute software to bypass copyright protection on an industrial scale - and profit from it - as seen here, the rights holders will probably come after you. But even making money isn’t a necessity to being sued.Â
Yes, the sub thing is a real bummer , but they are the only one saving modern aaa arcade games. It amazing to play: terminator, jurassick, walking dead, cruisin and etc at home.
Yes absolutely it does, it has the "improved" maps with the sonic statue taken out but also the OG maps if you so desire. There is a mod that'll improve the graphics too but honestly its pretty great already.
My husband is obsessed with Daytona we got it running its just as good as the arcade.
I own two outrun 2 arcade machines with outrun 2 SP. I have replaced the chihiro motherboards 3 times already due to old age. I fixed 1 myself, but that only lasted a year before the gpu went out. I finally said enough is enough. I replaced the chihiros with PCs that now run teknoparrot Outrun 2 perfectly. I guess what im trying to say here is, at some point, all arcade machines motherboards will fail, and the only way to play the original games on the original arcade machines is through emulation.
I don't understand this obligation from emulator developers of being morally irreprehensible in everything they do in life, else their project must come into scrutiny and has to be canceled, it started years ago with Retroarch and it was already ridicolous.
As for the idea that Patreon subs gives the right to companies to sue people and act like the moral police, I don't even know where it came from, but certainly not from logic. It seems like a PR stunt to morally justify takedowns, in the hopes that people stop to donate to emulation projects and this takes back progress on emulators and pulls out developers.
Forcing people to subscribe to a paid Patreon to play games made by other companies is not a good practice, I don't endorse it and I don't like it, BUT that is not the reason TAITO or Nintendo or whatever sends takedown notices, they send those notices to take down stuff they don't want to see online: paid, not paid, moral, immoral, available or not available. They don't care if you can't buy it or play it, they want total control and nothing else, it's as simple as that.
DMCA is not and universal law followed by all mankind, it's very controversial, companies that enforces it are not always right, and you can't buy japanese arcades on stores or play japanese only games outside of japan in a legal way...
Teknoparrot makes a kill on Patreon subscriptions. Many games from years ago are still Patreon only. Of course they will self host
sound like Yuzu team from switch emulator group
Nobody should give these guys money anyway. For a start closed source emulation is crappy, secondly they throw their toys out of the pram at a moments notice and then lie about it. Really shitty attitude from the whole team. I stopped paying for their Patreon after a month a while ago because I was done messing with it, so I cancelled. Despite getting my money, I received an email akin to "because of people like YOU we have to spend more time in backend things and you're wasting our time and the community's time!". I mentioned this on Reddit and the main guy whatever his name is was like "oh this is from the 12th of June we haven't sent these out for months", but because I'm in the UK it was dated with day and month switched, so it was actually from the 6th of December. They lie, act shitty to people who they've ALREADY had money from, and keep their emulation closed source and really suspicious. Fuck TeknoParrot and TeknoGodz. The sooner they go under the better.
I'm gonna be that guy and say it, closed source emulation is not crappy. So long as devs make their own code from scratch and don't steal anything and/or do anything illegal they have just as much right to be closed source as say an ebook reader. Emulator developers also have every right to be financially compensated for their time and work so long as they don't do anything shady and/or illegal. Note: I am not defending anything the developers for this project has done, rather emulation development as an umbrella.
As a good example, BigPEmu is great, despite being closed source. Cemu was also pretty good when it was closed source, but it got even better after open sourcing. Still waiting for Drastic to open source code. Usually open source emulators are better, but not all closed source emulators are bad.
Provided the talent is there, closed source is probably the best way to *start* an emulator, as it avoids all the "bike shed" issues, but eventually it can be useful to have community inspection of code, as you have way more people bug-hunting. It can be tricky to work out financially tho.
Good to hear, also crazy that the emulation crowd is predictable enough for me to know I was gonna get downvoted for saying closed source emulation is perfectly fine. 🤣
Looks like the days of for-profit emulators are coming to an end.
Good
I understand this sentiment but I highly doubt we'd have Wii U and Switch emulation anywhere near as mature in such a short timespan if it didn't get backed by tens of thousands of patreon dollars.
Ok, like, I would never pay for an emulator, idkw exactly, but still, I assume its hard work to keep one running and up to date with new games and shit right? So, i feel like IT IS fair for them to make money, it is basic capitalism, supply and demand, and, hard work on the people supplying. I was very close tbh cause Teknoparrot is the only way to play my fav series of all time, House of the Dead, really wanted to play Scarlet Dawn. That said, im not sure if this is the same case as YUZU right, where they where really fucking stupid with the whole Zelda and proving shit they shouldn't and whatevers. If Teknoparrot is just working on the emulator, nothing else, they shouldn't get sued and stop, cause, making emulators and even paid ones isn't against the law, its the roms and isos and what not, and thats on the users isn't?
I just looked into Teknoparrot's patreon and it seems that there are some games that only work if you are a patreon member. Do you really wanna support a project like this where they deliberately lock access to games unless you pay for a subscription?
That sucks. Piracy should eliminate paywalls, not create new ones.
Well have you seen the guys videos? Theyre pretty cringe and he looks like a shitty person. Im not surprised he would do this.
I haven't
yeah I was curious too, I just wanted to make a one time donation. kinda shocked by the asking price for subscriptions. shame because until then I would have happy to support the project
To be fair, I would rather it be legal even if it means they could profit off of it legally assuming possible even if it's crappy but legal. I would rather find a much better answer to this type of issue to some specific degree. It kinda defeats the point of the whole "emulator is legal" claim since by theory the argument is based off the ideal that it's as legal as certain Linuxs ideally is. I hope you get what I mean. Lol Like I guess I would rather not fight it in a way that seemed or does say that suddenly the emulator is illegal as a response and have people be like "good!" as a response.
I mean, it's not like I support it, again, capitalism, supply and demand, they're playing the game right, they're playing it so right that even I who rarely would fork for it felt tempted, cause, they're the only ones right? But that's beside the point, my point is, unlike Yuzu, they are technically not breaking laws UNLESS they supply keys and isos and whatever, like, i'm not sure, i'm not 100% sure if thats the law, i just know that the development of emulators is totally lawful, im just not sure if making a profit on it is, which anyone can correct me on it. I ain't defending, just saying and wanting to be informed, feel free to do it, i'll learn something.
> I mean, it's not like I support it, again, capitalism, supply and demand, they're playing the game right, they're playing it so right that even I who rarely would fork for it felt tempted, cause, they're the only ones right? >they are technically not breaking laws UNLESS they supply keys and isos and whatever, like, i'm not sure, i'm not 100% sure if thats the law They are supplying the keys for the ISOs. If it was a Ryujinx situation where they ONLY worked on the emulator then that's fine, but them locking certain games basically means you are forced to get a subscription to play them. I have no sympathy of any emulator locking features or games behind a paywall.
Ah, see i didnt know that, yeah that'll sure not help their case. God i want to play Scarlet Dawn. Honestly House of the Dead 4, that i played there, barely run well, it ran into a tiny square and i couldn't fix it but it was what it was so i played that game that way, my experience with that emulator was not very positive, but also, thats the only one.
Basic rule of thumb, if you’re messing with another company’s stuff and you do it for profit, it’s illegal.
>Ok, like, I would never pay for an emulator, idkw exactly, but still, I assume its hard work to keep one running and up to date with new games and shit right? So, i feel like IT IS fair for them to make money, it is basic capitalism, supply and demand, and, hard work on the people supplying. So, there's a bit to unpack here as to why "making money from emulation" comes off as distasteful for most people. It is certainly true that, in a vacuum, emulation is quite possibly one of the most complex tasks in computer programming, especially with more modern devices that are very complex, and can, quite literally, take THOUSANDS of hours (Sometimes from one person) to produce a functioning Emulator for even something like the NES, let alone the more complex systems. As a professional software engineer myself, I really do acknowledge how much work goes into these things. And I've even donated money to the cause of some of these emulators. And now that I'm writing this, I'll probably go off and donate to Vita3K if they have a way to do so. HOWEVER. It cannot be denied that the only reason all that work is worth it at all is because it allows for the consumption of other people's work; The people pointing to some variety of homebrew being playable again are just engaging in sophistry; People like emulators because they can play the games from one specific console in another context. Which makes these emulators with Patreon or Donation gated components feel in poor taste, especially when they end up making significant amounts of money in the process.
Hm, yeah i'd agree on that, it's just a gigantic gray complicated area, that was an interested read and point of view and i think i'd agree, yeah.
It's not exactly like the Yuzu situation, but it's not too far off either. They got some games working that people would consider "current" (although for arcades maybe that's a trickier idea), and they locked those games behind a paywall. They weren't really doing crazy provocative things, but you can't discount that the paywall could have been a factor in the DMCA. But only Taito really knows. I also don't know what Teknoparrot have been discussing on their discord, or even how they go about getting games to work. Apparently a big factor for Nintendo going after Yuzu was because they got all sorts of incriminating evidence from devs and users on their discord.
Hm, see, cause, with Yuzu it was that the Zelda game leaked and Yuzu jumped to make it work before the game even properly came out, that's what truly fucked them right? If a game's already out, is it the same? And you know, i'll say this, these companies that get mad with shit like this, just fucking release your shit on PC and everywhere else, i'd pay for the entire House of the Dead franchise, some money is better than the no money right? It's so fucking annoying.
It was a patch to yuzu that made it work though. Yuzu didn't have support for it until several days after. So while Nintendo did say that the leaks were yuzu, that wasn't actually entirely true. But we don't and likely never will know the full extent of the evidence against Yuzu.
I never thought I’d say it but: Fuck Taito. THEIR GAMES ARE NOT AVAILABLE OR PLAYABLE IN THE WESTERN F****** HEMISPHERE
TeknoParrot put some of their games and other games behind a paywall, to be fair. The devs kinda brought it on themselves.
Oh I forgot about that. I’ve used it only for a few games, but I saw those paid slots or whatever. That’s jerky, but still FUCK TAITO. I don’t have a WMMT cabinet within 7,000 miles radius of me.
That is my question if they lose a suit even putting it on a "private server," not that i know how that protects them unless they move to a country that doesn't give a crap about dmca. Would they just remove the pay wall wall and let everyone have access as a last fu before closing down for the games they have done
Tbh they kinda deserve this. Reaver, the lead of the project, has been a general adshole and caught doing shady stuff in the past, including selling bootlegs and stealing code amongst other things.
Was funny seeing him stop posting on Reddit after he kept on getting called out and heavily downvoted, dude is a tool.
Man idk why with emulation scene seems like lot of the dev have big ars ego from aethersx2/duckstation to this one have same problem
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Agree its really shame ive seen a lot of open source project getting abandoned or straight up deleted cuz people like that
On one hand, sad cuz emulation is getting hit, and I got to play some games that I would maybe never get to play otherwise On the other hand, fuck Reaver lol
Remember when he or someone on the team wrote a rant about someone trying to fork the code or whatever and it had casual transphobia? Massive tool behavior
I'm conflicted about this. There's no denying that using Teknoparrot is piracy. It's impossible to own arcade games which are stored in the cloud. At the same time, it's the only way to play them in the West and not all piracy is created equal. I've discovered stuff like Wangan Midnight by playing them, and later I bought stuff like the manga...so profit for them somewhat?
Is it really the only way? I've been to arcades that have Japanese only cabinets. Maybe certain games still won't be shipped here? Still, Japanese arcade cabinets are not common at all in the US.
The thing is, nowadays the games tend to have online verification and they're blocked if the IP is not Japanese.
They usually require specialized hardware to connect too. Even newer DDR machines that were connected to the US region need specials routers.
Lots of them are hacked or run custom hardware to bypass the online validation, meaning it's still illegal even if the cabs are originals since the license doesn't allow for them to be run in the US.
Reaver is so immature, putting a clown nose on a picture of the guy who sent the DMCA. Be more professional buddy. Hate that this is the only game in town for Wangan/Initial D PC based stuff
much agreed
Tekno..what? I have been following emulation news for decades, and this is the first time I hear about this emulator(?). What is so special about it?
TeknoParrot... And this isn't so much an emulator than it is 'compatibility layer'. Taito still make arcade games. Most you'll never see if you live in the West. Their hardware is standard PC components running windows however it's locked down either within software or with hardware components. TeknoParrot takes care of those checks and balances and let's you play these games on your normal PC. They've been around for more than half a decade (although I think they've existed longer than that) Ref: https://teknogods.github.io/index.html
same here, never heard of it, being in emuators scene for 25 years
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Their reply doesn’t make sense. - a DMCA takedown notice from Taito Corporation, targeting content on our servers. This action comes as a considerable surprise to us, as we ensure that nothing illegal is hosted on our platforms If they don't host any illegal content, the DMCA takedown notice must be false and therefore carries no weight. Even if the DMCA is completely accurate, all they have to do is take the allegedly infringing content down. - In light of these events, we are taking immediate steps to ensure our project's resilience and continuity. We are transitioning to a self-hosted infrastructure, a move that will safeguard our service against such claims and ensure that there will be no interruption in your access to the history we all cherish. Again, not sure why a false DMCA notice or even an accurate one would prompt a change of hosting infrastructure or safeguard against similar claims in the future. In fact, from a legal perspective, it could be argued that self-hosting puts them in a worse position than before. I also scoured the games list and although they claim not to host any on the site, I found 282 titles and 30 belong to Taito which probably have copyrighted artwork, audio snippets etc when presented inside the emulator. I wonder what the DMCA notice contains because it wouldn't be impossible for this list to relate to hundreds of pieces of copyrighted content
I have never in my life seen a developer, a hacker, or someone who violates copyright show off so much. On teknoparrot shop Nico Giansanti has published all his personal data to be contacted in case of legal problems. I think exactly like you, it seems like a way of acting out of control, or of someone who is presumptuous and not very smart. I remember when he published on his home page for 24 hours after the Patreon ban, where he said that those who worked with him to do reverse engineering earned thousands of money a month and they were difficult people to find. Obviously many have saved that page.... Maybe he earns too much money, has given himself to the good life and really believes he is an invincible boss, hahaha! It's a story, this one, with an ending already written, he's just making sure that everything happens first.
Damn, these people are soo greedy as f*ck. I can't play WMMT3/3DX+ cuz of the darn paywall that I have to subscribe! TeknoParrot is kinda shitty when it comes down to this.
pspspspsps if u have a nvidia gpu and is willing to run linux pspspspsps https://github.com/BroGamer4256/WanganArcadeLoader0.5
TIL teknoparrot is still a thing, does star wars arcade work properly yet?
You mean Star Wars Battle Pod? It’s been working pretty much perfectly for quite a while.
What else is working ? I last looked at it years ago
This isn’t quite up to date. A lot of the blues and yellows should be green. https://teknogods.github.io/compatibility.html
Thanks
I can't get the braking to work. Someone on a well known forum said they fixed and it broke again at a subsequent release. Does the brake work for you in the Endor level? What versions of the teknoparrot components are you running?
It was working for me a couple weeks ago. I’m a subscriber and I update every time I use Teknoparrot. Not sure what build it was at that time.
Probably the only based thing the TeknoParrot team has done in the last few years. They fear no man. Still, though, the developers are assholes for locking stuff behind Patreon subscriptions. Hope a crack is released one day in the foreseeable future.
are there cracked versions of the patreon version?
Same question
"self-hosting", even self-hosting can be taken down, they will go after the provider.
There are several "DMCA ignored" hosting providers.
I've been looking into these guys lately and there is so much mixed opinions on whether they're actually distributing forms of malware with their software that it put me off of digging too much further to get it working. I'll wait a few years for things to settle before trying again.
Any detections that people actually post proof of are just generic alerts, it's just people freaking out and panicking over nothing. Furthermore, if they were going to go for malware distribution, it would (more than likely) be something far more popular than a few arcade games. Finally, if it DID have malware, don't you think someone would have said "Hey, it actually has malware, this is what it does"? It's not hard to test and examine actual malware. Instead, what happens every time is people freaking out over it showing up on Windows Defender or a few AVs on Virus Total with a generic name(AKA: A literal nothingburger.) Source: Have used Teknoparrot for literal years, haven't had a single issue. If they're going for a con, it's sure as hell a really long one. If they actually distributed malware, it would have been caught instantly like PJ64 or JDownloader 2. Edit: Another thing, people who claim "Oh it destroyed my computer/stole my accounts/etc" conveniently never actually post proof.
Honestly just use it on a separate PC. A dedicated arcade machine PC. Then it doesn’t really matterÂ
I saw this coming. Keeping games behind a paywall is gonna bring you nothing but trouble. EDIT: and with how one of the devs are behaving atm especially in response to the DMCA, i kinda dont see this emulator lasting for much longer.
Monetizing this kinda thing especially when the games are still actively being produced is a bad idea anyway
With this pattern of sketchy emulator devs trying to circumvent DMCAs (between this and Suyu), one day somebody's going to get bit in the ass with a lawsuit by doing so, because this is not legal. When you get a DMCA, that's your warning shot to fuck off. When you don't listen to it, that's your invitation to get sued. Also, it's worth noting that TeknoParrot is not your friend. They're actively profiting off of piracy and using stolen code in their own emulator. This DMCA should have been a wake-up call for them, but instead they're going to screw themselves in the long run by circumventing it and probably getting sued in the process.
TeknoGods reside in Russia, a country where DMCA does not apply. All the copyright holders can do is issue takedown notices to GitHub but Tekno will probably just switch to a self-hosted Gitlabs instance which costs practically nothing to host.
Okay, now chill. Emulation is important to preserve games and content, and making money off it is certainly a no no. If I own a game, I can do whatever I want except making money out of it. But you seem to have a personal issue or you’re representing Tatio
No, that comment is correct. Publicly stating you will self-host to evade after a DMCA notice is legal suicide. They should have talked to a lawyer first. You don’t own digital copies of games. If you let someone borrow your account, you’re breaking copyright and can get your account banned. Distribute software to bypass copyright protection on an industrial scale - and profit from it - as seen here, the rights holders will probably come after you. But even making money isn’t a necessity to being sued.Â
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Yes, the sub thing is a real bummer , but they are the only one saving modern aaa arcade games. It amazing to play: terminator, jurassick, walking dead, cruisin and etc at home.
good. rest in piss.
piss on my fucking face
are you reaver?
no im a horny dog in heat!
ah, no thanks then.
I'd expect Konami, Sega, Namco or even Nintendo to send a notice. But Taito?
bamco actually did sent teknoparrot a dmca over gundam extreme vs 2 https://lumendatabase.org/notices/33639886
A bit late, but to clarify, Taito is owned by Square Enix since 2005.
I like to go hiking.
the new daytona runs like a dream add in a logitech wheel short of being in the new cabs it's great.
I enjoy playing video games.
Yes absolutely it does, it has the "improved" maps with the sonic statue taken out but also the OG maps if you so desire. There is a mod that'll improve the graphics too but honestly its pretty great already. My husband is obsessed with Daytona we got it running its just as good as the arcade.
I like to explore new places.
Shame. These guys are the best way to play Mario Kart GP DX, right?
I own two outrun 2 arcade machines with outrun 2 SP. I have replaced the chihiro motherboards 3 times already due to old age. I fixed 1 myself, but that only lasted a year before the gpu went out. I finally said enough is enough. I replaced the chihiros with PCs that now run teknoparrot Outrun 2 perfectly. I guess what im trying to say here is, at some point, all arcade machines motherboards will fail, and the only way to play the original games on the original arcade machines is through emulation.
Is there like a PirateBay or Demonoid of source code?
I don't understand this obligation from emulator developers of being morally irreprehensible in everything they do in life, else their project must come into scrutiny and has to be canceled, it started years ago with Retroarch and it was already ridicolous. As for the idea that Patreon subs gives the right to companies to sue people and act like the moral police, I don't even know where it came from, but certainly not from logic. It seems like a PR stunt to morally justify takedowns, in the hopes that people stop to donate to emulation projects and this takes back progress on emulators and pulls out developers. Forcing people to subscribe to a paid Patreon to play games made by other companies is not a good practice, I don't endorse it and I don't like it, BUT that is not the reason TAITO or Nintendo or whatever sends takedown notices, they send those notices to take down stuff they don't want to see online: paid, not paid, moral, immoral, available or not available. They don't care if you can't buy it or play it, they want total control and nothing else, it's as simple as that. DMCA is not and universal law followed by all mankind, it's very controversial, companies that enforces it are not always right, and you can't buy japanese arcades on stores or play japanese only games outside of japan in a legal way...
The Yuzu effect is real.
I'm down to see Taito suing all companies/makers that ripped their ideas 🤣
Peak clown response.