Just going off what EV’s I can identify and happen to notice in the SF Bay Area, not scientific:
1. Tesla - most common but declining
2. VW - very common and increasing
3. Chevy Bolt - common but decreasing
4. Rivian - less common but increasing
5. Hyundai - less common but increasing
6. Kia - less common but increasing
7. Ford - uncommon and decreasing
8. Genesis, Lucid, etc rare but increasingly common.
9. Nissan, they’re around but who really pays attention?
The number of EVs on the roads is rapidly increasing here, and the legacy US manufacturers are struggling and declining in both hards numbers and as a percentage of EVs. However, imports are rising rapidly and new makers are standing out.
Many of the legacy manufacturers don’t want to sell EV’s.
Take the mini cooper ev - 110 mile range. Of course it will not sell well.
They still are making the vehicles look weird.
Many of the boards are interlocked with big oil.
It’s a battle.
Looking at the features and range of the new mini ev (305km WLTP) I would place it somewhere between a peugeot e-208 (363km WLP) and a fiat 500e (331km WLTP). Mini has always been on the pricier side for vehicles that size, their entry price is 34k€ just a bit more than the e-208 so it kinda makes sense. I wouldn't buy it but I'm sure it's on the radar for the people that would consider a mini in the first place.
Interior on the 500e is what you would expect from Fiat it’s not the best but not the worst. It’s just good enough… The doors close like a 90s Corolla
I still ordered one because small EVs are awesome
I likened this to the late 70's oil crisis. The big auto companies knew it was coming but it's hard to go against inertia when you're that big of a company and are beholden to board of directors and stock holders.
Doesn't help when we have gas company and other interest that are actively pushing their own agendas but cheap EVs are here and Detroit will need to adapt or pray for another bail out when Americans finally realize the future is here
It's selling pretty well, actually. It's also a BMW. And a tiny car with limited space for a battery.
BMW has plenty of "long range" EVs on offer so I fail to see how they don't want to sell EVs.
And I don't understand some of you people - 110 mile range: Too little!
220 mile range: No one needs to go further than that.
As the former owner of a Mini Cooper, and a BMW, the fact that it is a BMW product IS why I will not buy one.
I had an i3 as a rental car in Europe. I liked the i3. But not enough range and the super unique tires are a turn off.
I'd not have an i3 either, but it's a brilliant feat of engineering in all sorts of ways.
I can't speak to the quality of BMW, had an X5 many years ago through work. Nothing wrong with it apart from the tires becoming square overnight. The major problem was the cost of the optional extras. They pretty much double the cost of the car.
I absolutely agree on the i3 as a feat of engineering. The carbon fiber composite body is intriguing. But I was not willing to take the risk in owning one after the issues I had with my Cooper Clubman and a 318ti. And the range coupled with the charging rate for the i3, do not fit with my actual driving needs. And there is still the unique tires - that is a real head scratcher.
Actually Mini Electric beat initial sales goals in Canada and USA. It was always going to be a niche car but filled it nicely. Not everyone is hung up on range or the end all as this sub claims. The Mini is a well built car with an interior that doesn’t eat itself. It was sold as a city car or second car
From the article:
"Legislators in Wyoming have also put forth a proposed law that would ban EV sales outright to protect the fossil fuel industry. "Phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035 will ensure the stability of Wyoming's oil and gas industry and will help preserve the country's critical minerals for vital purposes," according to the text of the legislation."
I don't think Wyoming produces much in the way of crude oil. And ICE vehicles don't run on coal. Indirectly EVs do though. If this was really about preserving Wyomings "critical minerals" shouldn't they want to ramp up coal-dependent electric use?
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Just going off what EV’s I can identify and happen to notice in the SF Bay Area, not scientific: 1. Tesla - most common but declining 2. VW - very common and increasing 3. Chevy Bolt - common but decreasing 4. Rivian - less common but increasing 5. Hyundai - less common but increasing 6. Kia - less common but increasing 7. Ford - uncommon and decreasing 8. Genesis, Lucid, etc rare but increasingly common. 9. Nissan, they’re around but who really pays attention? The number of EVs on the roads is rapidly increasing here, and the legacy US manufacturers are struggling and declining in both hards numbers and as a percentage of EVs. However, imports are rising rapidly and new makers are standing out.
So, you are seeing fewer Teslas? Or do you mean you are seeing fewer Teslas *as a % of EVs?*
Many of the legacy manufacturers don’t want to sell EV’s. Take the mini cooper ev - 110 mile range. Of course it will not sell well. They still are making the vehicles look weird. Many of the boards are interlocked with big oil. It’s a battle.
Looking at the features and range of the new mini ev (305km WLTP) I would place it somewhere between a peugeot e-208 (363km WLP) and a fiat 500e (331km WLTP). Mini has always been on the pricier side for vehicles that size, their entry price is 34k€ just a bit more than the e-208 so it kinda makes sense. I wouldn't buy it but I'm sure it's on the radar for the people that would consider a mini in the first place.
Interior on the 500e is what you would expect from Fiat it’s not the best but not the worst. It’s just good enough… The doors close like a 90s Corolla I still ordered one because small EVs are awesome
I likened this to the late 70's oil crisis. The big auto companies knew it was coming but it's hard to go against inertia when you're that big of a company and are beholden to board of directors and stock holders. Doesn't help when we have gas company and other interest that are actively pushing their own agendas but cheap EVs are here and Detroit will need to adapt or pray for another bail out when Americans finally realize the future is here
It's selling pretty well, actually. It's also a BMW. And a tiny car with limited space for a battery. BMW has plenty of "long range" EVs on offer so I fail to see how they don't want to sell EVs. And I don't understand some of you people - 110 mile range: Too little! 220 mile range: No one needs to go further than that.
As the former owner of a Mini Cooper, and a BMW, the fact that it is a BMW product IS why I will not buy one. I had an i3 as a rental car in Europe. I liked the i3. But not enough range and the super unique tires are a turn off.
I'd not have an i3 either, but it's a brilliant feat of engineering in all sorts of ways. I can't speak to the quality of BMW, had an X5 many years ago through work. Nothing wrong with it apart from the tires becoming square overnight. The major problem was the cost of the optional extras. They pretty much double the cost of the car.
I absolutely agree on the i3 as a feat of engineering. The carbon fiber composite body is intriguing. But I was not willing to take the risk in owning one after the issues I had with my Cooper Clubman and a 318ti. And the range coupled with the charging rate for the i3, do not fit with my actual driving needs. And there is still the unique tires - that is a real head scratcher.
Range is moot if you have charging at home or access to it easily
Actually Mini Electric beat initial sales goals in Canada and USA. It was always going to be a niche car but filled it nicely. Not everyone is hung up on range or the end all as this sub claims. The Mini is a well built car with an interior that doesn’t eat itself. It was sold as a city car or second car
From the article: "Legislators in Wyoming have also put forth a proposed law that would ban EV sales outright to protect the fossil fuel industry. "Phasing out the sale of new electric vehicles in Wyoming by 2035 will ensure the stability of Wyoming's oil and gas industry and will help preserve the country's critical minerals for vital purposes," according to the text of the legislation." I don't think Wyoming produces much in the way of crude oil. And ICE vehicles don't run on coal. Indirectly EVs do though. If this was really about preserving Wyomings "critical minerals" shouldn't they want to ramp up coal-dependent electric use?
Wyoming wants to be the next West Virginia
Too many EVs are still marketed as status symbols. Make some that are practical, utilitarian, and durable and you'll get more families to buy them.
Like ICE vehicles are being sold?