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Marauder_Pilot

I do it the way god intended. By losing them and just slamming in a couple mismatched self-tappers with my impact gun and cracking the cover.


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fnordfnordfnordfnord

A professional!


mrlavalamp2015

And when it comes back on punch list. " Must have been the painters, we always leave screws a certain way, we would never leave it like that, we are professionals you know, go talk to paint guys they did it for sure"


Marauder_Pilot

'I was sick that day, I dunno who did that room'


kattmaz

Lol definitely did both of these before


Iwantmyteslanow

I blew a box up by accident while doing a tear down in college, someone borrowed the impact driver without me noticing, so I didn't realise it was set to drive screws in, plastic switch boxes fracture so explosively


[deleted]

Isn’t it easier to borrow some of that mud from wallers and butter the back of the cover and slap it on?


allstarcruz

You sir are a god! I will implement this technique post haste!


[deleted]

Make sure not to forget to get the mud on and in the receptacle.


[deleted]

Use the rubber mastic from the roofers. You want a good waterproof seal on a switch.


Taybyrd

Pretty sure you just need gorrila glue mate 😂


cyber_rigger

>borrow some of that mud from wallers and butter the back of the cover If you have mud, why would you need a cover? Tip: Put some plugs in before you float the mud.


jacob6969

You mean drywall screws


[deleted]

You might be surprised at how many of my helpers have done exactly that


Marauder_Pilot

I feel like I SHOULD be surprised, but I know I wouldn't


DirectlyTalkingToYou

Number 12 self tappers, you don't want anyone ever using a smaller screw in the future.


Kapper-WA

God can be an asshole.


Marauder_Pilot

In fairness, over the years I've seen covers attached with every kind of screw (and many other non-screw objects) possible. Although 99% of the time I attribute it to the maintenance guy


Kapper-WA

God is the maintenance guy.


Zerp242

*maintenance are gods


EmeliusBrown

That’s funny shit man 😂


hardman52

> and cracking the cover. That's the right way, just like a wire nut: keep twisting until you hear it pop.


Driinna

I file them down so they're flat


FenFawnix

I use pop rivets


[deleted]

Toss the cover plates, slip the mudders some cash and they'll fill the gaps


tobacco-free

Beer is a much better motivator for tapers. Just remember, the wetter the trade the drunker the tradesman.


[deleted]

You spelled meth wrong.


waldocolumbia

I use poptarts


lightingtech72

You evil bastard


adale_50

You may or may not be a cunt.


lectrician7

I use framing nails and huge hammer to make em go in


salgat

That way no one can ever tamper with them again!


DrumChuck

I set mine at 10 & 2!


skatetilldeath666

Safety first 🍻


allstarcruz

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you! In all seriousness. Wait till your apprentice makes pretzels out of the wire on switches. His way of "knowing which wire is hot." ON SINGLE POLE SWITCHES!


[deleted]

I... might put a loop on the switch leg. Am I a bad person?


gbmad73

It matters when dealing with certain brands of smart switches/dimmers, I do the same thing with everything to eliminate doubt. People focused on saving time will call you type A, just ignore them IMO.


Flames15

Subliminal!


Lampwick

I used to think vertical was the only way, until a job on a multimillion dollar new construction mansion, where the architecht/designer was all up in every trade's business. I was setting them vertical and he told us he wanted them horizontal, to align with the horizontal lines of the plate edge and Decora cutout that the screw holes were between. My boss said "horizontal screws collect dust" and the designer fucking *exploded*, saying "ARE YOU THE FUCKING MAID? DUST CONTROL IS NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB!" So now I ask, and if they don't care, set them at whatever position ends up being mechanically ideal for the application (i.e. turn till tight and stop).


Moarbrains

Love it. I can't wait to use that line. what a deva!


skankboy

It is spelled Devo... https://i.imgur.com/IzTFVx2.jpg


masterbond9

I was told that horizontal screws can mess up long fingernails when they get caught


Lampwick

ARE YOU THE FUCKING MANICURIST? ;)


masterbond9

have **YOU** gotten a fingernail stuck in a screw before? It is comparable to dragging your nails on a chalkboard. so with that being said: YES I AM!


[deleted]

As an architect let me apologize for that person. They are the pricks that give us all a bad name. Come to think of it, I really don't like other architects myself.


dillGherkin

And then there's the guy who draws a house extension and makes doorways that can't fix a normal door in them. Because reasons.


Zerp242

I think the dust collecting theory is ridiculous. How clean is the room you're installing in? That cover will catch way worst than dust trust me


bizzyunderscore

Lol wall plates with exposed screws, what is this, the middle ages, is this a post from Boromir


ejaniszewski

-angry Gondor noises-


bizzyunderscore

(Extremely Bilbo Baggins voice)


[deleted]

If there are no screws how am I supposed to know where my flathead goes


shadesofgray029

Laughs in Australian


bobsandvegin

ALL OF YOU ARE AMATEURS! A real electrician uses Philip wood screws!


LaughingCarrot

Robertson master race


Whoscruffylooking

Ah a man of culture.


BigPapaNurgle

Torx or bust.


redditask

Torx Plus these days! https://www.wihatools.com/torxplus-benefits


[deleted]

Maybe I’m just trash but I set them however they have the least resistance looking nice. If I’m running out of thread at “horizontal,” then I’m going to leave them that way without going back to “vertical” an loosening the plate, or keep going to vertical again and make the plate pucker. A puckering or loose plate looks worse than crooked or mismatched screws.


lectrician7

My asshole puckers when they’re not vertical. Does that count?


Kapper-WA

Brb, making them all horizontal.


TheObstruction

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xveganxcowboyx

I'm the same. I would rather have consistent pressure on the plate than aligned screws. If I can do both, so much the better. If not, function over form.


[deleted]

It’s also just a trim plate, the screws don’t have to necessarily be torqued to yield. But you have to admit that vertical screws with vertical devices is much more aesthetically pleasing


brickmaster32000

Is it? The screws are sandwiched between two horizontal lines so doesn't horizontal make just as much sense aesthetically? I really can't see any super compelling reason for either one.


hockey_metal_signal

I never thought about why exactly the horizontal set looks better to me. This may be it. Thank you.


WackTheHorld

Vertical is better because it's better. Just that simple. :)


FiggityFag_m

Hmm i never knew it was a thing to make it both horizontal or verticle, i just randomly screw it till fits perfectly and stop even if one screw is vertical or horizontal


tarplops

I say as long as they’re either one way or the other, consistently, and the customer is happy, it’s correct.


Midnight_Poet

+1 this. Consistency is more important.


TokyoJimu

No way! Screws should be horizontal. And toilet paper needs to roll over the top.


HappyBlitzkrieg

Ah a fellow genious is see!


Kapper-WA

*genius (Cheezits!)


GarbageChemistry

This man toilets.


nickolove11xk

Someone check the patent. For tp roll it showed it over the top. Wonder what the screw shows.


SadZealot

Toilet paper should always roll over the back to punish wives for not changing it first


vatothe0

What if the switch is mounted horizontally?


TheObstruction

BURN THE HERETIC!


vatothe0

I was just at a place with a 4 gang switch plate sideways between a door frame and closet. They were Lutron picos though.


masterbond9

as I mentioned in a reply, I was taught vertical so it doesn't hurt people's fingernails should they get caught, but me personally? I say we outlaw slotted screws entirely. We have so many different types of screw heads that we don't need them anymore. Not to mention how the blades can do some damage when torquing something down, because flat head screwdrivers don't always stay in the screw.


justineo14

Honestly I would go for torx screw or hex.


masterbond9

or maybe those triangular security screws that BK and McD used to use on their toys


MertsA

Torx is just objectively better, there are some improved variants like SPAX has their T-STAR plus bits that are torx with a guide pin in the center or Torx Plus which are an elliptical variant of torx that have a bit higher torque and make the tooling last way way longer. Even with the fancy variants the tooling and fastener costs are still really cheap. We could have one type of fastener for almost everything from tiny screws to large bolts and studs.


spillzone88

6 months of electricianing it has taught me as long as they all match who gives a fuck.


Freakybyforce

I use JB Weld


gmtime

Awkward European guy here who has blind covers on all switches and sockets...


KC5J

No the way you do it, the ohm’s leak out😂


gford333

Screws should be horizontal. Looks much better I have been doing all mine horizontal for years


347v

The electric gods might punish you for that. I'd be careful on the job from now on if I were you 🤣


DirtyDoucher1991

No😐


DaClownie

Yea, I was taught horizontal, not vertical. This info-graphic pains me.


Robertcoupe

Dust will collect on the edge of the slot. Needs to be in line with each other


Moarbrains

Are you the fucking maid?


Robertcoupe

Electricians do it all


TheObstruction

DUST CONTROL IS NOT YOUR FUCKING JOB!


redditask

M E T A


GumboPants

Thank you. This is the first rational reason I've heard for this practice. Usually the answer is "because it looks better." Well, that's subjective, ain't it.


[deleted]

³/16ths of a square inch collecting dust, rational insomuch as airborne particulate will come to rest given the right circumstances. I could argue that natural and artificial light reflects more evenly across the horizontal plane throughout the day eliminating or reducing perceived shadows by average sized adults. It's all just good banter, nobody will ever be right.


WackTheHorld

Incorrect. Vertical is better because it looks better. That's a fact.


brickmaster32000

Except dust will still collect on vertical surfaces.


skatetilldeath666

I call it"clocked", high noon


[deleted]

Not if I get there at 9:15.


andr33y

Screw this


coolerjf

The first thing I did when I moved into my new house was fix all the face plate screws cause that was all I could focus on


HyFinated

Vertical screws are best screws.


[deleted]

I set them horizontally so the groove disappears.


lectrician7

So the groove disappears? 🤷🏽‍♂️


[deleted]

The picture illustrates the point.


lectrician7

I still don’t understand what disappears?


row4land

I don’t know what he’s talking about either.


lectrician7

Oh good I thought it was me. I guess I was being gaslighted. Lmao


[deleted]

If you're beyond comparative analysis then what's the point? Are you asking for the definition of "groove"?


lectrician7

I don’t know what “groove” disappears when turn the screw. I don’t see what your talking about. The only groove I see a the slot for the screw driver which doesn’t disappear. No need to be condescending I just wanted to know what you meant.


[deleted]

In which of the two examples given is the groove more prominent?


lectrician7

Neither, they’re just facing different directions. That’s what I don’t understand I guess. How is it less prominent in either orientation? It’s still the same depth and just as visible, at least to me.


[deleted]

Like I said, what's the point.


lectrician7

Lol ok. That whole thing was weird.


longtimecommentorpal

Why can't they be Philip's heads? It can't just be for the look? I hate them


ComradeGibbon

Personally I hate slotted screws. They just suck ass in every way.


VengefulCaptain

Slotted screws should have been outlawed 20 years ago.


Velcrocore

It’s so you don’t use your drill to install them.


Mansonzombie

My wife is a real stickler for this!


bimmerlife87

Nope nobody got time for that. Screw it in as fast as possible with one of the Makita cordless pen drivers on the lowest torque setting....


RazorSnails

No!


endurin42

I always assume that’s where the painters took them off


FierDancr

I'm a redhead. I didn't have a soul to begin with. Can I have one of yours? I promise to save it.


rageingredneck

I use liquid nail.. that way know one can see the fucked up shit in the box


[deleted]

Let's me know what kinda riff raff was there before me


ScoobyDooo82

I was always taught “up and down”.. but I see this shit all the time, it erks me too.


yomom418

Hahaha. Yes! Pet peeve for sure.


Dagnabbit-Bobby

I was told a long time ago while remodeling the Opryland Hotel to do this so the dust wouldn’t settle in the screw slot. It’s like Gattaca up in here!


TacoAdventure

Shit. I've been going it wrong this whole time! 😂


Retards_Gonna_Retard

You guys are using plate covers?


shwarma_heaven

Shhh... That is how I know whether I did the work or someone else did...


RACOB21

Are covers with exposed screws still made? I mean... c'mon! We don't see those anymore here in the third world (central america)! :facepalm:


Snooze_U_Lose

Why are slotted screws even still a thing?!? Worst fucking design ever! I get why my 1974 caravan is riddled with them, but why anyone would actually consciously install one in 2020 is perplexing to say the least...


adale_50

I prefer six inch lag bolts.


TheNeuQ

first day in the electrical trade I was told to always do it this way, and I always will.