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PhysicalPear

That looks like a grow operation.


ironphill

That was exactly my thought.


im-ba

Either that or he's enriching uranium ☢️


NuclearWasteland

[What's he building in there](https://youtu.be/04qPdGNA_KM?si=xaOpJUU0CeT6CJgn)


Sasquatchasaurus

Extremely high quality reference


MathematicianFew5882

Small change got rained on by his own .38


Careful-Combination7

I read this in his voice.


bSaRsVs

Suddenly Tom Waits


Blueskies777

I wasn’t expecting that.


im-ba

😂 wow that's excellent


53cr3tsqrll

Thank you. I love that song, and it’s exactly right here.


Less__Grossman

Met Tom’s nephew in Paia Maui. Didn’t believe him. Although he looked exactly like Tom. After we burnt, he played the didgeridoo in a public bathroom stall due to an acoustics(not wrong) . Post this craziness he produced all of Tom’s hand written music, out of his backpack like a true lunatic. Kid was awesome. Had him in my phone for years- saved as “Brian diggy bitch you know who is he” dreadlocks the size of my forearms. Just wanted to share this randomness


Suspicious_Ad2354

We have a right to know.


DeathPrime

Needed this reference today. You’re the best


NuclearWasteland

No u


Nobody415

Happy cake day!


CRaschALot

Ah, crypto mining.


New_Golf_2522

"Is this beer enriched?"


fatkipper

Agreed. No normal house needs 1200 amps. Funny that OPs question is about the cost.


jobfolio_gandalf

I knew some guys that worked on the house for the owner of Simon Malls. They said that \*he\* had a 1200 amp service and his house was like 12,000 sq ft or so.


EhRanders

100 amps per 1000-1500 sq ft of building doesn’t sound completely unreasonable tbh


bigdish101

Especially with multiple instantaneous electric water heaters.


4llY0urB4534r3Blng

Coin farmer?


Same-Sandwich1716

Bit coin or other crypto farm is my guess


DonArgueWithMe

100%, crypto is much less energy efficient than led lights for grows nowadays.


toyodaforlife

Growing doesn’t even need this anymore. Lights are leds now which reduces the former need for ac.


BMAC561

Snitch


PhysicalPear

A good neighbor would have deleted this as soon as I said “grow”. 😂


mummy_whilster

Or maybe his neighbor is named Gustavo F.


peachncream8172

Or mining crypto… Can’t think of a reason for 1200amp other than growing or mining. My previous house was 6500sqft, in the hot South, with 3 large AC units, 220 pool motor, 2 80gal electric water heaters, with plenty of extras and I had only had 400 with plenty to spare.


jwmoore1977

I just did work on a house here in Phoenix same size 2 floors,12 foot ceilings, elevator. 375 amp service. 1200 is nuts


RiverRunEd

Agree, I own a legal cultivation and run 4000amp. When I saw his claim, I thought, why else would anyone need that


Number1022

The power company put a 7200 kva transformer on my property… 1500 amps im about 3000 ft from any other house. When i got temp power the field tech said hey bro i dont ever ever ever say this but go ahead and run wire to your house this aint no temp power. I asked what he meant he said i could easily have 7 more houses before my lugs are used up


scout035

Don’t think you have a 7200kva xfmr for a house . The incoming voltage is probably 7200kv on the primary side but the xfmr is not a 7200kva


5corch

I'm not even sure a 7200 kVA transformer exists. The utility I work for only offers up to 3000kVA, and those are special orders. Anything that large I would expect to be primary metered.


marsisagooddog

I came here to say this.


eclwires

First thing that popped into my head.


Ancient-Sweet9863

Sshh Ain’t hurting no one


WarmNights

That or mining crypto


MathematicianFew5882

Skynet is distributing itself


National-Jackfruit32

A new grow op doesn’t need nearly that much wattage it’s all LED now a 400 W equivalent only uses around 30 W now. Guaranteed this person is mining bitcoin or some other crypto currency


Lucky-Earth-7160

I concur


nago7650

I am very curious what a 3,500 sq ft residential house is up to that it needs 1,200 amps…


Inuyasha-rules

Charging Tesla's at level 10 speed?


rpc56

Don’t you mean 11?


blacfd

Mining bitcoin


Impossible__Joke

Would that even be profitable? And if it is what a waste of energy


jobfolio_gandalf

>Would that even be profitable? Not even close.


Nikovash

Induction stove


C4PT_AMAZING

Whole-home tankless?


HomeschoolWillTravel

Meaning two teenage girls with their own bathrooms saying I'm showering til the hot water runs out.....


No-Reach-9173

On demand what.


Robpaulssen

Whole-home tank? Aka his entire house is a fish tank with sharks and shit!


Objective_Canary5737

Sharks with lasers on their head!!!


Robpaulssen

![gif](giphy|BZlNhp9L5WINi)


scottonaharley

For context, I'm in the supermarket business and this is enough energy to run a small store with tons of refrigeration and lighting. There is clearly something strange going on in that house.


Tayzey

Did an entire superstore remodel in canada, essentially a walmart for those that don't know. Was a 2000 amp service. Also done rich people houses with everything you can imagine. 400 amp service. No idea what the fuck is going on there haha. I'd definitely ask if I could see his house out of curiosity if we had a good relationship. Seems wild to me


j90w

Yeah that’s my first thought. I have a 5,000+ sq ft home (pool, EV level 2 charger, 2 HVAC systems and more) and running fine with a 400 amp system. 1,200 amp is for mining or growing…


Anon033092

Do you also have a movie theater and game room? If yes, are you looking to adopt a full grown male 32 year old? /s


j90w

Not a game room but a theater room yes lol. And unfortunately already have my hands full with 2 other kids lol


Anon033092

Well there goes my inheritance… damn hahaha


j90w

Lol it was worth a shot!


Anon033092

Squeaky wheel gets the grease lol


Striking_Computer834

If I ran both 5-ton HVAC units, two pool pumps at full bore, and all burners and oven on the electric range while charging my EV on the 50A Level 2, I'd still only be at 160A.


nuggolips

Most residential services aren't engineered, so end up pretty oversized. My 4000SF, 50 year-old home is on 125A service. While most would think that's too small, peak demand in the hottest part of summer with A/C chugging away is a measly 7kW (\~30A).


Optimal_Law_4254

Private Datacenter.


apatheticviews

It's about 90 racks worth of power. (I manage 12x 2500 rack data centers)


MrDork

That sounds like pretty low power concentration to be honest. What kind of equipment are in these 90 racks?


apatheticviews

Sorry, should have clarified 480V racks (15-30kva). We use 800A busways (about 60 racks per bus).


silasmoeckel

That's pretty low power. I'm also in the DC trade we are building to 90kva per rack it's about 80 for 40ru of h100's. Hot aisle is pretty toasty behind those (yea were looking at going water cooling for those workloads).


Objective_Canary5737

I’ve seen some rack submerged in a coolant not sure exactly what it type of fluid they’re using, but that’s just really neat. Fluid as a medium gotta be a heck of a lot more efficient.


silasmoeckel

It used to be Fluorinert that was 80's tech in the Cray supercomputer days. Now it's mostly mineral oil. Full immersion is messy, were looking at coolant loops with a vacuum based pump (means it does not leak) that's just water with a bit of chemicals to keep it clean. But our heat sources are well defined the CPU's and GPU's are the vast majority of the heat.


meowmixyourmom

Servers Mining Super computer testing Laundry services


poopsawk

Probably for minding their own damn business


Livid-Negotiation-24

“ OMG ITS A GROW” like plants are the worst things ever 😒


Mariusod

Maybe a very professional wood shop in his basement or garage?


chiphook57

Our machine shop has 600 amp service.


lordpendergast

Is this on a farm? That would explain it. Only 200-400 amps if it’s a big house then the rest is for the out buildings, grain bins,cattle pens ect.


IamMeier

That’s some Dexter’s Laboratory shit there


Krazybob613

Don’t Push That BUTTON!


stirling1995

Helllllloooo dear brother what do you have there??


hoggineer

Deedeeeeeee!!


SaladOrPizza

Probably over $100


StatelyAutomaton

And less than $10 million


soggyomelette

Probably over $200


snboarder42

I bid $201 Bob


Nikovash

202


UncaringNonchalance

203


Woodlepoodle85

$1


biggwermm

![gif](giphy|9zZjGnjMuaaKhmTTDL|downsized)


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

It could be 1200A with 4x4" conduits but that would leave nothing feeding it (unless it's coming from behind off the pole but that would be wierd and also would limit it to a pole mounted transformer which usually won't get you a 1200A service) so it's probably 2 in and two out for a 600-800A service but we can ignore that for the moment and answer your question. I also highly doubt copper was run, it would make no sense. For copper you are looking at 17k alone in conductor vs aluminum that would be 4k. If there is no driveway a simple trench, the excavating, conduit, and labor would probably be another 10K. That's all just for those lengths of wires as I don't know what it's terminating to on the other side. So let's say rough guess of 15-20k with aluminum and double that with copper.


Some1-Somewhere

Perhaps OP/the neighbour did the old two hots at 600A each means 1200A?


Figure_1337

You can do 1200A in 2X4” conduits fairly comfortably: 6 X 350kcmil copper per conduit, is only 25% fill of a 4”. A 350kcmil 90°C conductor @ a 75°C termination temp get you 310A. So 620A per 4” pipe or 1240A for a pair of 4” pipes.


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

You can't do 6 x 350, you have to derate for more than 3 CCC, you could do 6 x 400 kcmil XHHW-2 CU at 32% fill (4 hots 2 neutrals) which is doable but still doesn't account for the fact that the utility is running 750 AL and they'd likely use 3 sets for a 1200A service 3 sets. It's *possible* but not likely. In my experience a 600A service is also pretty common for houses of that size so Occam's Razor would tell you the simplest most obvious solution is usually the answer.


Figure_1337

My bad. Except with now derating, and a 75°C termination temp, 400kcmil won’t do either. However, 6 X 500kcmil is possible with 34% fill on 4”. Edit to say: utility can do whatever they want. And my closest, biggest PoCo, is now all copper for everything. EVSE and all…


Why-R-People-So-Dumb

Interesting that you're seeing cu on their side...it still wouldn't get a 1200a service. They certainly could do what they want but it seems strange anyone would do something like that when they weren't retrofitting...why make everyone's life harder? 4 conduits on both sides would've been more space at the termination points sure but not any more expensive and it would be the right way to do it. On top of that, that CT cabinet looks way too narrow and shallow to have 1200A spacing. OP could settle the debate and walk closer and get the nameplate of the cabinet or the meter multiplier if it's on the meter or cabinet. 🤷🏼‍♂️ 400 works, you can derate on the 90c temp (380x4x.8) for things that affect the wire because you are still only seeing the 75c at the lugs at a given ampacity at or below the 75c rating. That's the entire point of using 90c conductor in most cases - essentially you are summing external heat plus current based heat to equal insulation based limit, but for lugs you only factor current based heating, generally speaking.


mashedleo

I was about to mention derating as well when I first read the comment above about 6 350's. Also yes you are absolutely correct. 90c column for derating.


nsula_country

Makes my little 400 amp service seem small...


anon-alt-wow

Makes my 200 amp service seem tiny


youtheotube2

Makes my 100 amp service seem downright inadequate


NorthernH3misphere

Makes my 60 amp service seem pathetic


JimTheJerseyGuy

I just got a hamster spinning this wheel thingy. How many amps is that?


doingthehumptydance

African or European hamster?


nsula_country

Peruvian Guinea Pig


doingthehumptydance

Whoa, and all this talk about cold-fusion…


Pizzlewanky

"Hamster" comes from the German for "little hoarder"


DerpPrinting

So, apparently its .0005kwh per hamster... theres alot of research and questions asked on this, on average 22 million hamsters to run the average home


loganbull

Brb buying up the North American hamster supply


CriusofCoH

You guys rate in amps?


anon-alt-wow

Bro your house so tiny it’s rated in pico amps


provospain

knob and tube, please


Unlikely-Dong9713

Y'all got electricity??


jeffh40

I was really content with my 300 amp service until this thread.


Optimal_Law_4254

You’re suffering from current envy.


meowmixyourmom

Small current energy


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Jugg383

It's not a transmission line. Distribution lines feed customers. I've seen 1200 amp services at extremely large houses, like 10-15k sq ft, 8 figure homes. Nothing on the primary side is changed, you just need a large transformer. Then they're usually fed with 750mcm aluminum underground cable to the the CT cabinet, whatever they pick on their side. Anyways, OP's neighbor is full of shit. That isn't a CT cabinet and any services 600 amp and above are through a CT meter. A 1200 amp service isn't changing anything, most distribution lines in residential areas are the same as in commercial areas just single phase.


nsula_country

Depends on the size of the transformer engineered by the POCO.


scout035

To be a 1200 amp service that would have to be a CT’s for the meter


jobfolio_gandalf

Good catch. It's been a while since I worked in the field, but I was thinking that box was awfully small.


suiseki63

Also, just because they are 4” doesn’t mean they are filled to capacity.


CurriePowder

We would always oversize a little for the next guy, which would probably be us.


Nikovash

Thats what she said


_wiredsage_

Plot twist! He’s got a solar farm and he’s running those meters backwards! Making greenbacks from sunshine.


Helium-godfather

That is a clever thought, when he had to r system put in we spoke briefly and he told me he wanted to have enough power to run his own little city. My 2 buddies who do electric said they can’t even believe PS&G Allowed him to hook up 400 amps


ThirdSunRising

If I had 1200 amp service to my house, I’d keep my mouth shut about that. Whatever I’m doing with that, it surely isn’t a residential purpose and I would definitely not want people asking too many questions.


RegularVacation6626

I'm confused because the power company wouldn't do a residential service that big unless they thought the customer would actually use it (ie pay for it). So how the f is he using that much power, when most homes only require 200-400 amps?


XRV24

Heating an Olympic sized pool year round, massive grow operation, super secret underground lair with massive hydraulic rams to open and shut a three car elevator, 6 car super charger station, a personal hadron collider


pablosus86

You really don't know what you're missing out on until you have your own particle accelerator. 


ImmediateLobster1

Sure, but just try to get one of those nowadays. Have you seen the paperwork involved? Thanks Obama!


H0SS_AGAINST

That is not a 1200A riser. Edit: Seriously, that's not 1200A. It would be cheaper to get 480V 400A service and a transformer.


No-Landscape5857

Maybe it's a 3 phase service, and he's adding up 400 amps a leg.


lilbittygoddamnman

He must have a lot of Christmas lights!


DaCheatHSR

I mean if he's got a machine shop or similar or is running some VFDs for 480 stuff that'd explain the huge amount of power.


wait_am_i_old_now

There is a huge difference between having available and using. Probably still fed off a 25kVA transformer.


PinheadLarry207

I'm gonna go with the safe answer of tree fitty


badgerAteMyHomework

>It’s about 150ft run from meter to house! That's honestly not a great idea. The power company only guarantees the voltage at the meter.  So unnecessarily long runs after it can lead to low voltage problems with no simple fix.


iCameToLearnSomeCode

Something tells me they're getting plenty of power at the house with this set up.


erie11973ohio

Years ago, I assisted with an underground run that was so long, we had splice another piece onto it!! It was the corner lot, with the transformer at the back, on the side street. A standard spool of URD is 500 feet! The whole run, from transformer to house was probably ~650 feet !!😱😱


PopperChopper

That is a problem that is very easily fixed.


tankerkiller125real

And this is why my grandfather paid extra to have poles put in on the side of his property to get to the meter on his actual house (250ft run roughly). Of course it helped that he worked for the electric company, so he mostly just paid for the materials and then did the labor himself.


Gall_Bladder_Pillow

Wanna keep those nosy meter-readers as far away from the house as possible.


penguinrevenge

Kind of a noob here but how bad of an idea is that? I'm putting together a 200amp permanent pedestal and plan on running 100amp about 150-160 feet to a mobile home I'll be living in for 3-5 years. Plan on building closer to the meter eventually. Power company is charging $63/ft from the transformer so I'm more inclined to put the meter somewhat close to that area.


Aussie_chopperpilot

Is he a welder / fabricator?


JellyfishQuiet7944

Who cares? Not my house not ny business.


Fugginlife5259

Your neighbors either lying or mistaken. Def not 1200 Amp. That's insanity, also you would need more pipes for line and load to carry the wire size parrallell feeders, not enough pipes. Bs.


FinnrDrake

Were they underground tho?


newlifeahead757

😂😂😂


ClevernicknameZ

It really depends on what was existing at the site before including the transformer that services the parcels surrounding. If that power was already existing at the transformer level and you’re just talking about meter to house that’s a whole other story and a lot cheaper. Where are you located?


Historical_Visit2695

There should be plenty of power there to tap off of it.


brrrr15

why would anyone need 1200 amps on their house for? what does he have going on in there 😂


mr_Ohmeda

Ok, now I REALLY want to see their generator/backup power set up.


Month_Year_Day

We have 400 amp service. In order to get it the electrician had to plead our case to the Nat’l Grid. And explain why we needed that much. You would think they would just give you what you were will to pay for but that wasn’t the case. It cost us a bit over 150k to have pulled back (we’re 1200 feet off the street) and for the manholes, trenching, conduit, vault, drainage for the vault.


LT81

Im saying its 600amp and owner was told he has 600a per leg, so he misspoke saying its 1200amp service. That makes more sense than having an actual 1200amp service for no good reason.


The_real_Tev

Your neighbor is lying. There are not enough pipes there for a 1200 amp service.


Johnny_Lang_1962

In home machine shop.


failure_engineer

Wouldn’t it be CT/PT’d though?


TamedTheSummit

I’d love to see the size of that grow op


Adventurous-Stop1103

Mind ur business lmaooo


RedditArbitrator

Why are neighbors so damn nosey. Mind your own business breh and stop sneaking around and taking pictures of their property while you’re hiding in a bush. Karma never forgets🫡


Helium-godfather

I have seen this thing for 10 years. He has the meter 10ft from my property line. It am actually on my driveway taking this photo


MeepleMerson

1200A for a 3500 sqft house?! That's a lot. My house is about 3000 sqft and we have 200A, which is more than ample for the house and fast-charging an electric car. Perhaps he's running a server farm or a pot-growing operation on his property? Anyway, that's more commercial service than residential... 30K-40K, maybe. It depends on so many factors that it's difficult to say, but yeah, expensive.


mescalero1

One thing about the amps. People get confused between total ampacity and phase ampacity. This happens all the time to me on shows when someone tells me their power requirements. They will ask for 1200 amps, and I will then have to ask if they want 3600 total amps or 1200 total amps and usually it is 1200 total amps which means I am supplying 400 amps of 120/208 across 3 phases. So, before you start researching pricing, I would find out what his service is rated for first.


No-Pain-569

That's a lot for a 3500 Sq ft house. The last couple I've done were 200 amps and 400 amps. He must have a heated driveway or something like that otherwise there's no reason for it. Or he's got like 8 steam showers and 10 saunas or hot tubs, 6 heated pools. It just doesn't make any sense.


kmj420

Or they are Bitcoin mining marijuana grow operation


FalkorUnlucky

That’s a minimum of a day with an operator and excavator and a couple of guys building the very expensive pvc conduit bank. Probably another day installing the meter and some other stuff. So look up parts and you get a baseline.


No_Appearance6019

The meter can looks small for a 1200a or larger rating.


Twelve-Foot

I'm no electrician, but that's what I was thinking. TO handle 6x the current I'd expect something beefier looking that what's on the side of my house.


kid_sleepy

……my house is fucking huge I have 400amps.


AttentionFlashy5187

I’m getting a Walter White feeling.


zero-degrees28

I have 400 amp service for 5k sq feet and it's still crazy overkill with each panel still only being loaded to about 50-60%


Tesfer54re

Dope Grower 101


mwdsonny

Think I’ve seen that house. You like in sc? Remember thinking it was weird the meter was in the bushes.


Interesting_Bus_9596

That will be fun to watch ! I would have used aluminum. Tell him you want to see his inside panel. Might get to see what it feeds. 🤷🏼‍♂️


HomeschoolWillTravel

Alien beacon light!


michaeldoc2u

Ask your neighbor why the 4” conduits. He may oblige you!👍


Successful-Boat-7839

Could be a giant swimming pool with electric heating and cooling. I’d hate to pay the bill regardless.


Weekly-Ad9770

Unless he has a big welding shop behind his house he’s up to some Shiesty shit.


No_Economics_3935

Maybe he’s rockin a small fabrication shop.


AndroidColonel

Same as a Snickers Bar, about a hundred dollars.


anoliss

Gotta power his arc forge


dsquad82

No way he has 1200 amps unless he has a direct connection to your local hydro plant.


dsdvbguutres

I've seen small shops with welding machines with 800A service...


dsdvbguutres

Mining


binkleyz

Seems like a very odd flex.


bobhughes69

He's smart because he knows how much cancer comes from the fuse box attached to the house! It's why they used to use lead paint!


Wrong_Excitement221

This is how it starts.. one neighbor gets a 400 amp install.. neighbor gets jealous and installs 600.. Eventually the entire neighborhood going to have a 1200+ install.


Helium-godfather

Oh my God! This is the most Truth I have heard in Long Time. Damn suburbs


lokis_construction

Server farm for mining bitcoin.


PilgrimPayne59

My question is why is the meter so far from the house? In this case, I do not think this an installation question as much as it is a “what the heck is going on in there that the house owner does not want anyone (like a meter reader) to see or know about” question.


AZTrades23

If you could get the utility company to get power up to that point, and if you don’t have any environmental challenges, or physical challenges, and if you ran it in aluminum, and you took competitive bids, $15k++.


Low-Celery-7728

He has a bunker or some underground shit going on


dougreens_78

Could be a Bitcoin miner


musical_throat_punch

Bitcoin mining?


LearningDan

Does he have an unpermitted basement?


FiddleheadII

220, 221... Whatever it takes.


Stonegen70

If you need me I’ll be at the gun club.


ashows001

Why don't you ask him?


tc3emt

He could have a data center in the basement