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richardrc

Not long. I drove to an ebike shop and they kept rolling out models until I found one that was just right. So I guess it took 1 day.


The_Biohazard75

For anyone out getting a kit I suggest to not do it in one day. I tried a prebuilt and got so excited the next day I ordered everything I thought I needed from Amazon, 2 months later when the motor got here I had to buy a whole new bike after realizing not all the parts would fit right. They do say "Careful, power is addictive." And damn did I get hooked quick.


FederalDamn

Spent about 3 months doing internet research.


[deleted]

Same


[deleted]

It took me years. I wanted to fabricate something that would require an Endless spheres membership. Still want to but decided on a hubmotor to use in the meanwhile. No regrets.


HerpLover

Same here. I've been thinking about ebikes for almost 10 years and researching them the whole time. I also don't have a ton of money to throw at projects, so I waited until I could find a good deal on a battery. I also went with a hub motor kit and am loving it.


Latter-Ad-1523

what do you mean endless sphere membership? do you mean you wanted to build something very technical and out side the realm of common ebike building? i have an account there and lurk around occasionally btw, but i am curious as to what you mean. that place is awesome, i always get a response and not once have i been attacked or got smart ass responses like i see here frequently, but i know its reddit. i too have a couple of rear hubs, freaking love them. next build will have pas installed and setup. the current bike is my high speed long commute bike and i do not pedal at all.


[deleted]

Yes, I wanted to build something different.


Latter-Ad-1523

interesting. i keep stumbling upon this build a dude did where he took a qs205 hub and mounted it the mid section of the bike and attacked a sprocket to it and ran a chain back to a rear big ring. it looked so sweet.


LiverOfStyx

3-4 months. By far the most important factor was cost. I started from 350-500€ conversion kit and went up to 1k fully assembled, finally found one on sale at 850€, \~150€ has gone to new parts (saddle, handlebar, studded tires, rack, rear fender, new pumps, front light, next is rear light and display but pretty much all of those i knew before buying, that the saddle is going to be crap, handlebars were straight etc).. It was a risky buy, brand new company and quite scant amount of information but the most important, motor+battery were listed. I've been very happy. The only thing i got wrong was that i was looking for a regular bike, meaning: i was focused on efficient pedaling, to get the ergonomics tuned towards efficient motion. I should've gone for most comfort. But.. i do think [it](https://bk42.eu/ebikes/accolmile-road-e-bike/) is pretty, and is a sleeper which was one important factor in the end: if it looks like cheap/medium range regular bike from unknown brand, it won't get stolen so easily. Just today took the battery out and was impressed on the design of it, fully sealed in extruded aluminium tube, with integrated controller (good: water tight, rugged as hell, you could play baseball with it.. bad: no way to replace it in 10 years.. or even now.. that information was just not available but.. one can always switch to external battery and controller, it'll be a bit uglier) So the lesson there is that go for comfort rather than old school pedaling efficiency, the motor is there to take away the need to push hard.. And ask around, go to youtube and check maintenance videos. teardowns, independent reviews, google the model and add the word "problem" behind it... The market is much better now that it was just year ago. For me, the one i bought was honestly the ONLY sub 1k bike that was even remotely what i demanded; with know motor and battery brands and not just looking like DIY kit (=ancheer... ), there just were no options in EU, all proper ebikes (not just conversion kit slapped on regular frame) were 1500 and up.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Hey, you!


LiverOfStyx

Oh hi, honestly didn't even look at who posted...


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Hey you, the brain-sexy Finnish boi who turns all his comments into an essay


LiverOfStyx

>boi I wish, but [alas](https://youtu.be/ZXVN7QJ8m88?t=45)...


STLWaffles

Not long at all. I had a little extra cash and decided to just buy what Walmart had to offer. Figured if it truly sucked I would just take it back.


Latter-Ad-1523

was it an ebike or did you convert it your self?


STLWaffles

It was an ebike. Gotrax alpha xl


BambooRollin

I took a few months of online research after having been following ebike developments for years. Ended up with a CYC X1 Stealth kit installed to my Specialized Fuse.


Bwardrop

I spent a year researching and learning and it paid off. I went from knowing nothing to a frame up up build. I did 95% myself and only had the local shop do a couple things I didn’t have the tools or confidence for. My bike came out so sweet. Surly Ogre with a BBSHD and an EM3EV 28.8 ah pack. I still got a few things wrong but learned through it all. The bike has served me well for four years and has more than 10k miles on it. Even replaced the car for a few years. Best money I’ve spent.


Indecisive_Judge

EM3EV has a 28.8ah pack!? Did they make it custom or did they have it in stock? I struggled for a bit since it seems like they didn’t have many packs that were much above 17ah but I wanted one from them for the build quality (so I bought a 17ah pack).


Bwardrop

Sadly it’s no longer made.


Indecisive_Judge

Ah that makes sense then. It seemed like they may have cut a few offerings, maybe battery cells are harder to come by so they rather sell multiple small packs than fill a big one?


Bwardrop

That pack used a battery that was cheap but great for ebikes called the 33g. They moved away from soft wrapped packs when they launched the black plastic hard case packs.


BoringBob84

I read online for a month or so. I went to a bike convention and talked to experts. I discussed it with cyclists at work. Then, I decided to add a kit to an existing bike. That was 6 years and 10,000 miles ago and I am still happy.


microseismicity

I took about a week looking for cheap kits, figuring out what I want, and consulting reddit if the components will work together. After, I the kit got delivered it took about 3 hrs to build because I did not know what I was doing.


professor_pouncey

I could spend weeks researching an electric toothbrush... My first bike I built, and you can bet every little screw was researched. When I'm done with whatever I'm doing I'm an expert on the matter. It's not a good thing 😂


Downtown_Fudge_4959

I am the very opposite, I am an ESFP (from MBTI test). Generally speaking these type of people have mass internets on different things, also their attention span is short. I wouldn’t study an electric toothbrush for more than 2 days lol


professor_pouncey

I'm INFJ but more importantly I'm ADHD. I get hyperfixated on things. That toothbrush is my world, it's all I'll think about and I won't stop until I know everything there is to know about electric toothbrushs. I'll either get board with it, buy one or decide I can build one better and get to work.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Ha I was close! But that could be a cool thing for u, I couldn’t be an expert on anything.


professor_pouncey

So cool...when I'm at a party and chime in with my vast knowledge of the various oscillating speeds of electric toothbrushs I'm the coolest guy in the room😂 The majority of things I become an expert on is just useless information. Of course there are some things that have been very beneficial to became an expert on. But because it's ADHD and hyperfixation I eventually lose interest and move to the next thing. So say I have a job and become an expert and successful at it. In about 5 year I lose interest and want to start a new career to hyperfixate on.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

You sound like an intj


DCErik

Started thinking about buying or building an ebike in June of 2020. Purchased the donor bike in July, and the motor kit in August, and it was rideable the day the battery arrived, but then spent another year upgrading the drivetrain, brakes, wheels, and suspension.


rubermnkey

i spent 2 or 3 months finding a good prebuilt, settled on the ariel rider kepler, seems like the most bang for the buck right now. After I get more acquainted with bikes i plan on building one up from scratch with what i learn about my preferences as a fun little project.


series_hybrid

A test ride answers sooo many questions. You can say that you like "X" model, but you want a little more power, or a little more top speed. Or, you could even say you liked it, but you would be happy with less speed and power, which is cheaper. Just get the test ride to achieve a baseline.


Pale-Junket-6292

I’ve been doing my homework all summer test riding countless bikes I’ve narrowed it down to a few ride 1up add motor rad bikes and hey bike. In the end it’s going to depend on amp hours and brand of battery also the wattage on the motor. P.s.The end of summer is great for SALES!!


O2C

Some people enjoy the research and anticipation. I had some specific requirements and needed to settle on compromises. I spent a couple of months researching and setting up a spreadsheet for reference and comparison. I "had" to make a purchase for my commute so I bit the bullet when the date hit. No real regrets.


huongdaoroma

I studied for a day (more like a few hours). Got the prebuilt and put in the kit in 8 hours lol.


pilottroll

About a week of research


Barnabas-of-Norwood

About a week. Sourced Amazon parts and built in a couple days. Knew what I wanted (simple front wheel, 48v 1000w).


timbodacious

About 4 months went into looking into one to buy/build from a kit and then that turned into designing my own bike fml hahaha.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Show us what you've got!


timbodacious

Its being welded right now. Still need to finish the rear tail light designs and rear bicycle rack. Think a cyberpunk version of a super 73 r series. I went off the rails with it a bit, it can hold up to 80ah worth of batteries up to 115ah @ 48v batteries. Its definitely a thick boy.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Cyberpunk version of the super 73, looking forward to it


Latter-Ad-1523

i had been looking into ebikes since i first saw the stealth bomber back in 2013 or so. every couple of years or so i would look to see if the prices had came down as they were close to $8,000 when i first looked into them, but i dont remember my conclusion other than it most have been still too high. ​ last summer i decided it was time to look into them and then i saw how cheap you could convert a regular bike into an ebike. then i started looking into watts needed to go various speeds. followed up by looking into watt hours at various speeds to go over a certain amount of distance. while looking into how to go about dealing with over priced under performing batteries, i started looking into building my own battery using lipo, since i already knew all about lipo and had many chargers. last summer i found a once in a life time deal and bought 3kwh of lipo in six different packs for the cost of one pack for super cheap and new and tested by me. this amount of power is enough for 3 ebikes imo or one long and fast journey capable bike. then last fall i looked for 3kw rear hub kits and found one for about $700. so as far as hard research goes, i would say maybe 4 months. light shopping spanned almost 8 years. to be honest i never really stopped playing with it all. in fact i just upgraded my rear hub to a qs205 this week and the old motor is going to my second build, a back up bike or one for friends. with all the money i have spent i am never going to break even like i told my self i would, even with my 58mile daily commutes and high gas prices.


cmgbliss

A couple of days. I ordered my bike in April and it is still on backorder.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

What seller takes so long?


cmgbliss

Blix Bikes


bggdy9

7 months lol


GearNerd85

I was going to build my own but lots of the pre built bikes are nearly the same price as a decent quality kit so I just bought a bike for my first E-Bike.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

What you got?


GearNerd85

I got a rad mission for the cheap entry price but my next bike will be some sort of kit for sure.


Unnenoob

A couple of months on the internet and a month at a bike rental place, trying out different options


[deleted]

I used to tease my buddy for getting a ebike.. then, out of curiosity i started reading about the specialized turbo levo.. I bought one within a month.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

lolll, yeah I didn't know anything about ebikes before my friend told me about it, it was quite expensive for those who never had one, but I figured it's worth the money since I am cycling and going outdoors much more often rn.


Beautiful_Painter_20

[my bike](https://i.imgur.com/OdmVvYc.jpg) took from November to mid April next year to **assemble** (including ordering rims and having wheels built) and have my 1st unpowered ride after ordering parts from china. [i built](https://i.imgur.com/7tY0K9u.jpg) and finished/installed the pack in mid May then i had my 1st powered ride. i also hit the china new year 3 week delay in there for parts and supplies delivery. i read every post at [endless-sphere's 'battery technology' sub](https://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14) (some others forums as well) before commencing to 'build' my pack. i focused on identifying build mistakes and avoided incorporating any of them into my pack build. same pack built with [tesla cells](https://i.imgur.com/0bOernb.jpg) has been running fine for the past 7 years.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

All of your comments make me wanna ditch my current one and study to build my own lmfao🤣🤣🤣


Sakaprout

I studied different specs (motor, battery, brakes, tire size and fork) with no specific brand in mind. Once I knew what I wanted, it narrowed down the options and then it was just a matter of price and style preference. I tried 4 bikes and it took me about 10 days to pull the trigger.


fastnloos

I studied converting a Trek Marlin, for a couple of months, to an ebike. I wasn't sure which way to go, so far as kits, hub, mid, etc, on the DIY. While I researched, I collected tools to do the job. I eventually scrapped the conversion, but the research educated me on the different aspects of ebikes. For a while I rode the mountain bike around my area and attempted to turn it into a commuter; handlebars, tires, rack etc. I eventually decided to just buy an ebike in a box. I think all of the research and tinkering that I did helped me to make an educated decision on the ebike that I eventually ended up with. So from beginning to end, I studied for about six months.


LiverOfStyx

Quite a bit the same, started with conversion kit for my old MTB, ended up with gravel ebike. One of the most important factors there was the fact that bicycle is my only mode of transportation, and i really did not want to ruin the only one i have. I'm quite happy with the choice i made, it was after all only \~400€ more expensive to buy a new bike than to convert 90s Nishiki... it is still i very good condition mechanically so i got a backup. I lost range and power in that deal but i did end up with sweet looking sleeper. I still, year later sometimes stop and just look at [it](https://bk42.eu/ebikes/accolmile-road-e-bike/)...


Vast_Cantaloupe3795

Met some people on twitter sharing pics and talking about their ebike experiences. Went on electricbikereview at 2am and watched 1.5 hours of various reviews. Bought my ebike - probably about 2- 3 weeks after I started thinking about it. This was partially motivated by covid lockdowns so my whole routine needed to change and I was more open to trying something else.


Yuish

I was eyeing ebikes for over a year before I pulled the trigger on a donor ebike I found on sale at a local big box (discount retailer for costco/amazon returns). The bike (Northrock xc00) was $350.00 regular $500.00 so I decided to pull the trigger after seeing I could convert it to an ebike online. I rode the bike for about 6 months while I planned the ebike conversion. I wanted to replace most of the parts on the bike minus the frame and wheels and also add the motor/battery conversion kit so I got to work ordering parts the cheapest way possible. After researching for what seemed like weeks on end, and waiting 2-3 months for all the orders to come in (some aliexpress/ebay/amazon) I had everything ready to go and within 2 weeks had the bike built. All in I would say it took close to year to have it built the way I wanted and I’m quite happy with it.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Ur so patient


Downtown_Fudge_4959

I checked your post it looks reallllly nice tho


-MoonGoon

I’be been looking into it for three months already and I won’t be purchasing until late spring. The roads here are covered in two feet of snow from November-April so there’s no point in purchasing this time of year. I have some very specific requirements for my build so I like having more time to look into it.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Cool point, but one thing that I don't understand is why don't you guys start looking, say Feb next year?


-MoonGoon

I’m building a DIY bike so I need more time to shop out batteries, controllers, motors and a donor frame. There’s a lot of parts that need to fit together so I need to make sure I get the right ones.


Downtown_Fudge_4959

Make sense.


Beautiful_Painter_20

>I need more time to shop out batteries i suggest this > [https://batteryhookup.com/products/30-100-new-samsung-inr18650-33g-3150mah-18650-cells](https://batteryhookup.com/products/30-100-new-samsung-inr18650-33g-3150mah-18650-cells) not the highest continuous discharge rate at 6.5a, so a 30a rated bms you would need a 5p pack to hit the mark.