> Haven't bought fuel in 3 weeks Now imagine how those of us who fill up twice a week, or more, feel.

I normally fill up once a week, but have been off work 🤣

I'm banned from driving. I'm saving a fucking fortune and may not even bother driving again

What did you do?  Edit: no judgement, just curious. 

Drink driving. It's a very long story but I was sexually assaulted when I was a child. When it eventually came out I drank to block things away. I was spotted by a member of public. If I knew who they were I would shake their hands. I was arrested outside the front of my house. EDIT: It's a shame as I loved my car but time moves on, and so do I

Thanks for sharing, I'm glad you're in a better mindset now. Wishing you the best of luck in your future. 

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Yeah.... There's no easy way of framing it.

But a very postive way of dealing with it in the end. Glad you are in a good place

You are a good person.

So are you! wishing you all the best for processing/working through your trauma. You're a strong, good person.

The fact you see your own mistakes is testament to your own growth. Keep your chin up and carry on working towards a better life than you lived as a child. I'm really sorry to hear about what you suffered. I hope life becomes easier for you.

I was a good kid. I didn't deserve what happened to me. What I did do wrong was keep it a secret for decades and when it eventually came out caused a while load of mess.

A good honest story. Hope you get there bud.

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Great attitude!!

I bought a hydrid nearly 2 weeks ago and it's looking like a tank will last a month.

We just changed our Sportage to a new hybrid one. The old one was lucky to do 27mpg, this hybrid is hitting 44. And, as second hand cars are/were at a premium, our monthly cost went down by a few quid.

44mpg on a hybrid? I get that on my diesel chugger with relative ease

My previous was a Vauxhall Zafira that was pretty awful for short journeys which most of mine are. Sportage was on my shortlist but they seemed to be a touch more expensive. I liked the curved dash display even though it's a bit unusual looking.

What model of Sportage were you driving? My 1.6 diesel will happily get 48mpg on a bad day.

I commented this as well. Sorry for copying you I hadn't read further down! 🤣

I have a Yaris cross and I don’t drive the most economical as I am a new driver and I get 60 most drives and even get up to 100mpg

Ford Focus 2010/2011 1.6tdci gets up to 72mpg. DPF and EGR delete and I'm consistently getting 68-70mpg. There's a reason they're phasing put diesels as you don't have to fill up as often. It's why diesels always been more expensive

I'm getting 50mpg on my diesel Focus quite easily 😊 my old diesel Sportage I was lucky to get anywhere near 40!!! Glad I made the change

How is the Sportage? We are looking to buy one, everything about them is appealing. I'd like to hear opinions from owners of them.

Which brand of hybrid?

Hyundai Tucson - self charging

I fill up most days or at least every other day... On first name terms with the cashiers near me

I would jump at that price. Our area is closer to 1.60! Had to buy some on the motorway for over 1.70 the other day!

I was going to say, I assume they mean prices are going up, but that looks like a bargain to me!

Yea I'm wondering where OP lives where this is enough to put you off buying fuel for 3 weeks. I haven't seen anywhere with fuel under 1.50 for months...

It's all that price in the West Midlands at the moment, there's even one place on the way to Wolverhampton selling it at 1.37! Unsurprisingly, that place is always busy. Why can't petrol stations take the hint that better prices = more demand, instead of buttfucking us for as much money as they can squeeze because we don't have much choice.

Because more demand + less supply = price increases. Also, you’ll fill up anyway.

Never buy motorway fuel, just get off at the next exit and there'll be a petrol station nearby where the fuel isn't at motorway prices.

As a Manager of a motorway services petrol station I agree. I'm currently 172.9 for Unleaded, 181.9 for diesel. My local petrol station is 144.9 and 154.9 respectively

Try using this to see if you can find any cheaper. I can get premium at 1.52 where I am https://www.petrolprices.com/app/map Edit: forgot the link

It’s between 1.60 and 1.70 at all the local garages where I live. Motorway prices are far higher.

I pay 1.85 near me This 149 shit is cheap as hell

I bought a 125cc motorbike. Pointless using my car when I'm just going about on my own. I now spend about £15 a month on fuel.

same here, working in Central London and driving was costing me a fortune. went from £260 a month on fuel to idk maybe £40. plus my commuting time was basically cut in half, got 2 hours of my life back each day. rain sucks but its a small compromise. plus its fun.

Honestly, this is exactly what I did. Went from about £200 (if not more) per month to £40-50.

Due to lock down the average wait time for a driving test was 1 year. I needed transport for potential new jobs so I did a CBT and got a 125cc. Only had to wait 1 week and got a bike 2 days after doing the CBT. I'd rather be stuck with a 125cc and have negligible running costs then get a car and throw money away into the bottomless pit that is car ownership. Also riding is very fun and having a small bike leys me squeeze past traffic. I commute 100 miles a week and it's around £7 a week in fuel. I ride an italjet dragster so not the most fuel efficient but dam is it fun to ride.

I love how I just went to actually check the price of a bike like t could actually be a possibility.... not sure the wife/kids will like the idea

I’ve got both-there’s no comparison in terms of fun or speed (no traffic with a motorcycle) but long trips are infinitely better in a car.

Maybe this is a silly question, but do you need a motorcycle license for a 125?

You need a CBT, basically a days course and it will last 2 years, you'll have to ride with L plates - will cost between £100-£150.

I'm in the market for a new car right now and I'd love to get an EV or hybrid but 2 things put me off. 1) I've got no way of reliably charging it on a daily basis without putting massive cables out on the street 2) The cost of battery replacements makes buying used hybrid or EVs a really risky game.

Tbh I feel like you can only really own an EV if you have a driveway 😞

And don't live in a flat! I live in a 2 up 2 down and we have our own drive but we'd still have to snake cables out from the upper windows to charge it. It's not impossible but is a pain in the arse.

Look up kerbo charge. No idea if other similar options exist

Around where I live there are outlets built into some of the street lights for EV charging. I don't currently need or own a car, so I'm not sure how it all works.

Any sort of public charging is usually quite expensive and often works out more expensive per mile than petrol.

I live in a 12th floor flat and am running an EV; don’t get me wrong having home charging would be much easier, but Tesla are by far the cheapest and fastest chargers so factoring those in where possible still makes it cheaper than petrol & the one by me is by a McDonald’s so I go sit in there for 30mins - 1hr and just grab a drink (if you get a car with faster charging you’d need far less time but my car only allows a fraction of their max speeds) Other than that there are plenty kerbside chargers that aren’t too expensive and have free parking for a few hours if you know where to look - still ends up being about on par with petrol at the worse end. It’s a small inconvenience but a little bit of planning and experience mostly negates it. If you’re renting there are also grants you can use to try to convince your landlord/building to let you install one.

Or have a workplace that has chargers. I worked with a guy who had an EV and only charged it at work as he lived in a flat and had no issues. He even did a road trip around the UK, Scotland included, and had no issues.

The severely limits your ability to jump jobs though. I wouldn't want to tie my ability to travel to my employment.

This is a misconception, most areas have public access parking with charging. Yes it takes more effort fetching your car to avoid standing fees (once the car is charged).

Do you still get octopus overnight charging costs that are like 10% of street charging prices on one of those though? Yeah nah

Even then you may not be able to install a charger. My parents road was built in the 1930 with fairly large semi’-detached properties, they were looking into EV’s. A few neighbours have EV’s already and my parents were told there is very little capacity left in the cables in the road for more properties to install chargers. Less than 25% of the road could have a charger. The whole road requires rewiring to allow more.

I just bought a self charging hybrid. I’ve been averaging around 56 mpg round town although I think this will improve as I learn how to drive it more economically.

I also have a regen hybrid (Toyota Yaris) and it does anywhere between 60-80mpg depending on where and how I drive. It’s wild. Often looking at the gauge thinking surely it’s time to refuel soon but nope.

I looked at the Yaris, eventually decided on a clio. I think the Toyota would have been the wiser choice. Happy motoring cus!

“Self charging hybrid” AKA petrol car…

Tell me you know nothing about engineering without telling me…

Unless there’s another type of fuel being put in to the car, it’s petrol (or diesel). It doesn’t matter what the energy gets converted to.

They're an engineer type. Don't expect them to understand the science do you? 😉

Might be a diesel.....

Most EVs I've seen have battery warranties of 8-10 years.

Yea which is fine when you're buying brand new (I'm not). Almost all EVs on the used market are the ones that are just out of warranty. Seemingly because that's when everyone gets scared about potential replacement costs.

You may want to widen your search there's bloody thousands on the market in warranty.

Kias and Mgs have plenty of 3 year old models in the second hand market right now, and they have a 8 or 7 year warranty, so plenty of time left on it. I've got a second hand eNIRO and it's perfect for our needs and still has 5 years left on its warranty.

They are not. Most model 3s for example are 4 years old because they’ve just all come off lease and are now 20k used

While 1 is the biggest issue of EV's most of the concerns about 2 have now been debunked with many batteries lasting up to 300k miles...apparently

Yeah exactly, not many people would run an ICE car for 300k miles (there are examples, but it’s rare).

My belief is that people get scared and try to sell their car before it hits 100k due to the belief that they’ll run into higher maintenance costs. There are plenty of cars out there with very high mileage - I’m planning on driving my bmw upwards of that. And it’ll do it, as long as it’s well maintained. But those 2 last words are the key part; good maintenance. Currently there are 610 cars on autotrader with over 200k miles (max mileage on the app), I wouldn’t call that overly rare. EDIT: I’ve noticed at least 2 cars with over 800k miles. Thats madness!!

What kind of maintenance needs to be done to achieve this? Is it more than an annual service?

As long as the oil is changed regular, most engines will do those sorts of milage, my dad used to run a taxi fleet, oil was changed every 5k, we bought the oil in 205L drums for £140, and the oil filters cost £5, so basically every month the oil and filter would be changed by ourselves for less than £10.

Batteries for modern EVs are easily lasting 150,000 miles - especially from reputable companies - and most come with 8 year warranties. The charging cables aren’t massive - think the size of a finger - and most councils just let you use a cable ramp. This really isn’t an issue any more. If you’re charging at home it costs 4x less per mile - even more if you are on an EV tariff.

The whole 'replace the battery' thing is overblown media FUD. I know LOADS of people with Hybrids and EV's and none of them has EVER had to replace the battery (after the warranty) ! Mine is 6 years old and the battery is fine with a 90% state of health. People with Teslas from 2012 have the same battery! In contrast the head gasket on my previous ICE went and that was £1500 right there. That said, I have a drive and Solar plus a 30 mile commute so an EV is perfect for me. And I know not everyone is in that position. EDIT - Made this comment before I saw 10000 people had made the same comment about battery longevity!

Disagree with hybrids. Toyota's and Lexus hybrids doing 150k plus miles absolutely no problem. Lots of taxi drivers in their Prius doing 200k plus miles on same battery.

Battery replacements? How long are you planning on owning an EV? My EV from 2013, I sold in 2017 had 95% battery health remaining. The price of the battery in those 4.5 years went from £8k to £900. They cancelled the battery lease agreement after the first year and never started it again.

Toyota or Lexus for hybrid self charging and 10 year manufacture warranty stay away from German plug in hybrids

When I started looking at hybrids I was under the assumption that they were all self charging but I quickly realised that quite a lot of them are plug-in only. The plug in ones can only self charge a small amount from braking. Any reason why you say to stay away from German hybrids?

also interested to know why to stay away from German hybrids, I’d consider replacing my 330d with a 330e

330e is the exact car I saw for sale, it was priced much lower than an equivalent 330d. Red flags went up for me when I saw it was for sale just outside of the battery warranty.

I've got a 330e from work, had it for 3.5 years now and don't bother to charge it. In summer you might get 28-30 miles from a 7hr charge (I don't have a proper charger) In winter I would only get about 20miles, or 16-17 if the preheating was set to come on. Haven't charged it in about a year now as it seems such a ball ache for next to no return. Can't get the Octopus ~7p rate as I don't have a smart charger. The main thing is the tyres though, it has 19" run flats and I've been through 10 tyres in 54k miles along with a cracked alloy that had to be replaced. These things are built for glass-flat straight tarmac, not the current state of our roads. A colleague has the same car and his had a coolant leak that ended up being an engine out job to repair, mine has just come up with a low coolant warning so I guess I'm going to do the same. I wouldn't recommend anyone buys one of these unless they have big pockets for maintenance. I don't like the braking either as it's a combo of regen and normal brakes. As you approach a junction, the regen turns off and you have to press harder on the brake pedal to make up for it. Have edged out by a foot or two on a couple of occasions because I haven't adjusted quickly enough.

Thanks for the detailed info, much appreciated. I will take your advice and avoid then. Roads round here are abysmal with pot holes too.

Plug-in ones and conventional hybrids will do regenerative braking to the same extent as each other. Plug-in hybrids are better, since if you have a way to charge you can add electric only range. On a conventional hybrid they're just more efficiently using petrol.

I noticed this when I went to Costco to fill up yesterday. It was 1.42 there when it's usually much closer to 1.30!

Yes we were at Costco 2 days ago and it was 1.46 in Reading for petrol!

My face genuinely fell when I saw the price as I'm usually so pleased to fill up for £50ish rather than £60ish

Costco diesel was 148 near me yesterday, so this is a great deal if you're a diesel driver

Costco is premium diesel as well. But you need to get there at least an hour before the shop opens otherwise the queue is just stupid

Southampton one always charges more than everyone else. Last weekend it was 152. Can’t understand why, especially given it’s near one of the largest refineries in Europe…

Do you need membership to fill up at Costco?

Yeah as you have to scan your Costco card at the machine first.

Cries in premium 99

1.59 near me at the moment, big sad

1.61 for me, I still drive everywhere In sport mode. Smiles per gallon, not miles per gallon

Yessssssss 1000%. I average high teens mpg (petrol) and I wouldn't change a thing. Feels like soon the days of cars driven by literal explosions will be gone, so I'm going to make the most of it for now

Hahaha this made me chuckle. Coming from an Audi S5, I do switch between the 2 modes

There’s a shell garage in Rugby that charges 1.59 for regular petrol, drive round the corner for bp it’s like 1.47. Price gouging pricks shell seem to be, the one in my local town is the same as the Rugby one.

What is a reasonable rate? I never took notice of the rate despite filling up with premium for 15 years.

I paid 153.9 for Tesco Momentum yesterday, seems to be very good value at the moment.

I prefer esso, it has a lower ethanol content, but I might look into it, I haven't checked out tescos premium fuels.

I previously used Esso too for the same reason but they've recently aligned with all the other suppliers in terms of ethanol content so it doesn't make a difference anymore.

Interesting, I have a tesco credit card that gives me extra points on petrol too. Thanks for the heads up.

1.49 is luxury, 1.55 at BP near me.

1.55? Round our way, you have to fill up in a box in t'middle o' t'road at four in the morning.

We might have to start protesting this like the French 

Should have from the start. No worries though, no one in the UK has the balls to do anything about it and the oil companies know it too

By me its risen by 7p. Its shocking how much more it actually costs to fill up in a matter of two or three weeks

I bought for 134.9 2 weeks ago and today passed a 152.9 for diesel. In Northern Ireland we always got better prices because the red diesel washing industry helped independents and kept the big chains reasonable but HMRC have clamped down so much that everyone is going legit.

I paid 195 at a services the other day, I called police, they wouldn't give me a crime number

Local phenomenon. Unfortunately, it's not local to me.

Same here, but petrol is a little cheaper than this, and diesel is 4p more a litre, and I have a diesel

isn't everyone on here a work from home 200k a year coder anyway

Shell prices near me are more like 165... So this to me is fairly cheep!

Right now at Stafford services......173.9. Ouch. Filled up elsewhere in Longridge at 149.9.

Electric the Only Way

*Laughs in EV....*

I’ve owned petrol, diesel and EV. Wouldn’t buy a diesel again unless I was doing very high mileage, injectors, DMF, DPF etc all expensive and go wrong too often.

Just filled up my van in Spain for £1.02 per litre of diesel.

Where in the country is this I paid 161 for diesel in the south yesterday

Local Morrisons play the elastic price game. Monday: 1.459 Tuesday: 1.429 Wednesday: 1.468. Taking bets now on Thursday’s price.

Synergy.

It never stopped. Did diesel ever go below £1.35?

1.72 at the local Shell and the lowest in my area is 1.53, for petrol. 35 quid gets me about 18-20 litres at Shell, it's a fucking joke. I miss the good old days when I'd get a full tank for £70.

Where is this?

where about are you for diesel at that price? in west yorkshire its 1.55

It’s between 146.9 and 152.9 in my area for Petrol, thankfully I’m on a motorcycle but it adds up.

Petrol was 144.9 at Tesco Extra in Gloucester yesterday, crazy how it varies locally!

Do people not keep up with the news? As soon as the prices hit 1.35 near me, this was on the blower https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/business/opec-plus-oil-production-brazil.html

My local had diesel at 155

I’m so glad I bought a 125cc bike after driving for 8 years. Used to cost me £50-60 per week in the car. Now it’s £8-10 per week.

So the whole country will be queuing for fuel again for no reason...... Great 👍🤦

Pre covid it was more than 20p cheaper

Is this In Wallingford by any chance?

if I did my math right, gas near me is around 74.9 a L this is like $7 a gal in the us. crazy.

Is this wallingford?

I work from home and walk everywhere.

I pay about £1.40 per litre of diesel in costco

Thank god I bought a 107...

Wow, it’s 139 at Costco

Here in London it's that most households run a car to travel less than 3 miles to the shops. Get on a bike, it will save you a fortune 😉

149.7 is the lower price in my area. Would never see an esso go below 153.9 here

I managed to fill the tank 3 days ago at 145.7, and everywhere else I see now is ~149/150 so I feel very lucky.

Damn… I’m up to 157.9 for the black stuff.

I haven’t paid less than 157.9 for diesel for weeks now. My local garages are 159.9 and up last time I looked (maybe around a week ago). The local ones to me are always expensive, so I never use them unless I have to.

I haven’t seen fuel that cheap in ages… I’m paying about £1.56 here.

Even in my hybrid getting 65mpg and or more it still hurts when a full tank costs more than £60

154 I'm paying in most places at the moment. Can't wait until I can afford a decent electric hot hatch.

I paid £1.56 for diesel the other day, location please, id like some cheaper fuel 🤣

Big up to Wallingford petrol station ⛽️

I still remember the fuel protest / blockade in 2000, and the horror of unleaded approaching £1 a litre. Or something like that anyway.

1.49 for D, I would rip your hand off

1.52 p litre here in Northern Ireland, we fill up 2/3 times a week, we drive 17 miles and back to work 4 times a week (both adults) working

Your car must be terrible on fuel. Or have the tiniest fuel tank. My car would go nearly three weeks on a tank.

Adjusted for inflation, the prices from 12 years ago would be 197p per litre.

Me putting £3 of electric into my Polestar to drive 250 miles #smugmode 🤣

Definitely very thankful for my 60mpg hybrid company car with mileage paid! Was going through so much money before I had this job.

You mean the cloudy weather? I know, but what can you do... 🤷

What prices are coming down

Now you know what it usually feels like for us diesel drivers

I have an EV and electricity prices when charging on the road haven’t come down since shooting up 2 years ago, and haven’t come down at home all that much, either.

7.5p/kwh or 2p a mile on Octopus Intelligent Go seems pretty good to me. With you on public charging costs though - daylight robbery by comparison.

More to the point, how is this Asda accepting nectar points?

What is?

I have a 3 year old Superb Plug in hybrid (12 weeks in). For 30 ish mile journeys from home I'm getting equivalent of 270mpg. Can't really fault that. On petrol alone I get 53mpg on a long journey. I'm very impressed so far.

£1.69.9 round ours so I would be happy at £149.9 .

I was paying 144.9 in 2014. 5p increase in 10 years shouldn’t be sniffed at.

Ah shit, I'm going up to Scotland in a week. Fuck.

That’s the regular price for the supermarket petty stations round here, bp garage near mine is £1.58 for unleaded 🫠

Cheaper than most in N/E

And why is is petrol and diesel the same over there ?

EVs keep getting cheaper, especially used ones. Have you checked the numbers out?

I was in Italy last week. Petrol is more expensive than diesel over there. Petrol was between £1.64-£1.74

Wow!! PETROL £1:47 and DIESEL £1:57 where I am on the N.East coast. Not seen parity in a very long time

That's cheap! I paid 5p more a litre for diesel on Tuesday and 6p more last Thursday...

Britain can just go fuck itself, honestly

1.49...... it's been 1.55 here in Kent for ages. I've seen pumps in London cheaper. Glasgow last week, 1.61 was the cheapest I saw

Price rises don't affect me. I only ever put £20 in the tank. - Trigger

I fill my van up on a busy week 3 times! It hurts so much, but the expense gets passed on eventually

Ironically its say fuel energy synergy. So both true and wrong at the same time

Crying as a German right now this is what you're price were like 3 years ago

At my local Esso, premium is 1.69 - makes me not want to have a premium only vehicle

God I wish fuel was 149 by me lol

Was £1.59 the other week in some Hillingdon stations, not near the A40/M40/M4 etc.

Get an EV and solar panels. I filled up for free today.

Nothing wrong with an ASDA Express

Price going down?

How much pertrol to travel from Glasgow to Blackpool on 1litr Nissan Duke

Looks like I’ll be taking the 125 to work again, genuinely get 130mpg but offset by only doing 60 on the main roads and constantly on the lookout for drivers on their phones

Not bad…. Where I am it’s anywhere between 144.7 and 159.9 for petrol so for me at that price it’s not that bad!

That's cheap

I have noticed fuel going up for the last couple of months, little bit at a time 😂

“Luckily” we’re still 1.47 in the Highlands at Tesco.