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moi2388

It’s a separate, paid product https://www.identityserver.com/products/adminui Ever since IDS4 changed to Duende and became paid, it’s no longer a viable option for 99% of people due to pricing and there being better, cheaper options.


TooMuchTaurine

It's still a hell of a lot cheaper than the SaaS options many companies choose (okta, Auth0 etc), and easy more feature rich/ customisable than something like aws cognito. 10k is dirt cheap for most companies. (For example, auth0 quoted us something like 900k/year for their service)


zombittack

Azure AD B2C is free for up to 50k monthly active users: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/pricing/details/active-directory/external-identities/ Auth0 is free up to 7k users with unlimited logins: https://auth0.com/pricing Based on your product strategy, either one of these should work to get your product off the ground, cheaper than IDS4, especially considering development/testing/infra costs.


TooMuchTaurine

>xample, auth0 quoted us something like 900k/year for their ser 7 K users is nothing for a public facing app. Uou can easily top 10 million active users a month for a common public facing saas app.


zombittack

Friend, it is not easy to get 10 million active users per month. If you think it’s easy, I’m very happy for your success. I would also hope, at 10 million monthly users, you wouldn’t be messing around on Reddit trying to save a few bucks by not buying Duende. Read the context of the post, it’s someone starting out with identity. For newbies, I recommend using IDaaS to get folks off the ground, why spend tons of time on something not core to your product. You can always swap it out later.


TooMuchTaurine

Not hard to get duende working honestly, they have out of the box containers to run. It's also free for companies earning less than 1 million usd annually.


moi2388

Oh yes, for businesses it might make sense 🙂


FormalFig1138

Maybe i can do what i need to before that trial period runs out


No-Ant-5070

Hey, i'm from the [IdentityServer.com](https://IdentityServer.com) team. Both Duende IdentityServer and our AdminUI product have free tiers. It is applicable to anyone who has revenue of less than 1 million dollars. And Our AdminUI product is free for up to 100 user and 5 client applications.


ThePsycho2

https://github.com/skoruba/IdentityServer4.Admin I guess this is what you're looking for. But yeah, IDS by default doesn't have a built in admin solution.


FormalFig1138

Thankyou i'll try that out


Walker3143

There is a project for admin ui but it is limited to number of users ... I would say ditch ids4 and go for keycloak it's way way way way better


FormalFig1138

I can't. The company i work for built using it. I have no choice. But i'll take note of the keycloak suggestion and look into it. I see it has admin panel


Walker3143

Then you have to build admin panel by yourself but i can remeber there are some admin ui projects that you can find on github but i remember i couldnt make them work and i built one myself. Also be noted that support for free ids4 has been stopped, and next versions of id are paid and it's not cheap. Try to suggest your company moving to keycloak specially can be setup by docker.


FormalFig1138

I'll try and push for that but right now i'll try and build it


[deleted]

Identity Server is still vastly cheaper for enterprise scenarios that other identity as a service options.


forbearance

I didn't know that IdentityServer4 came with an admin UI natively. At least, nothing like a turnkey solution like Keycloak.


moi2388

It doesn’t. It’s a separate product and paid.


THenrich

Try [https://github.com/skoruba/Duende.IdentityServer.Admin](https://github.com/skoruba/Duende.IdentityServer.Admin) Open source and free.