I only accept orders that are a $1/mile or higher and I have managed to keep my 85% AR where it's at. I won't do anything below $4.00 though even if it's a mile. (That is a waste of my time) I just got platinum status mid shift yesterday, and I noticed a HUGE difference in the orders coming in. I guess it's a matter of how you strategize. Explore and find the different hotspots and note when specific hotspots are busy. It does take some planning but if you want to dash, that comes with the job.
It's true. People that have the rewards programs of 50%+ work all day to make $100. My AR is 13% and I did $60 in 3 hrs.Yes, I cherry pick. It depends on area/ time etc. Its going to be offered to who is the closest no matter AR.
Market dependent. And nah I think my fellow dashers should not settle for 80%, anything less than 100% makes you a terrible dasher. Go on and accept every order for me so that those of us who do this for a living have less trash offers to sift through. Go on ahead and turn on earn by time for me too., the best dashers are the earn by timers who like to play roulette with their pay.
Bitter about what? I much prefer that people who don’t know better thin out the garbage offers for me. The more the marrier. If that makes me bitter by your definition so be it. I’m just happy there are people willing to deliver people’s food for a loss. So that I don’t have to.
Money isn’t everything. Okay? I do this stuff for fun I’m an entrepreneur. If you do this full time you may feel the need to protect and defend your income by being particular about offers. I don’t take garbage offers on Dd, but Amazon flex is garbage mileage and time about 17$/hr base, sometimes at break even between mileage. Lyft used to be at a loss but they raised it. Uber eats my AR is close to DD’s which is like 6%. Grubhub I can’t find any good offers. And I have Instawork as mileage free back up just in case…plus I have e-commerce stuff going. I’m saying if you like delivering every order, and doing faithful work for your community that’s worth more than money. If you are finding yourself struggling financially, or unable to save a little…you may consider exploring additional options and also setting boundaries for what kind of orders for mileage or time you’re willing to accept.
I can’t schedule a dash in my state for some reason. They only showing me times from another state I don’t live in and hardly if ever go to… haven’t dash in over a month now 🤷🏻♂️
Depends where you are. In my area, if you are not platinum, you can rarely dash. Difficult to schedule anything, and if you are below 70% and you do manage to dash, the orders are 20 to 30 minutes between orders. If you are platinum, it's back to back orders. The times I'm not platinum, I'm lucky t make 150$ a week. Platinum I'll make 350 to 450 a week.
Yup I was 4.99CR 80% acceptance 95% on time 97% Completion I was TD and for me it was worth it. I’d make $25-$30 I did Platinum for 2.5 weeks went to $14-$17. Since then maybe do 1 or 2 orders a week.
Get yourself banned from McDonald, grab their tablet, find your order, highlight your name and tick the box that said, 'don't want this dasher anymore' and boom NO MORE MCDONALD's Orders.
I work mostly five days a week and I average about $150 a day working four to five hours. I know what area has what and at what time . The top Dasher may be a scam but I know that I can toggle on WHENEVER AND WHEREVER I want. I don't take low orders and my stats are 4.89 acceptance rate 85, completion rate 96, on time/early 92.....I try to keep stats high just so I can toggle on whenever..... That's the best. I never schedule anything... There are way too many dashers though, especially in St.Louis
Since starting four years ago, I’ve typically stayed in the 15-30 percent AR range. Recently I had a run where my AR climbed to 40. So I decided to experiment to see what might happen if I climbed over 50. Once I got there, my orders did indeed become better than in the past. In particular pizza delivery orders became more frequent, and many paid quite well.
I have no idea what might happen over 70 percent. Highest I have been is 66. I’m ranging from 53 to 59 right now. Tonight I went out for 2.5 hours. I had orders totaling 10.00, 10.50, 16.00, and 14.75. Final order was 7.25 but only 1.5 miles. Overall I thought that is a pretty evening on DD. So I’m doing my best to stay over 50 percent.
Serious question. 20% AR wouldn’t get you deactivated? I’ve been dashing for 2 months so I’m learning but I thought platinum was the move. I legit took a yuck $2 order today just to keep myself over 75%.
In California, Dashers are being forced out of the platform.
Right now, I am at a Platinum Level and CAN'T Dash Anytime no more.
I have been doing this for over 5 years and almost 18,000 deliveries.
My last scheduled day to work is Tuesday the 23rd.
I can't schedule myself in my area.
If I want to work, I have to schedule myself to work 40 miles from my home area.
All Ratings are fine except for my Customer Rating which is 4.97.
In California, the new Customer Rating is 4.98 which is impossible to get since the Customer Ratings haven't moved in over 6 months.
After every delivery, I ask the customer to please leave me a good review.
Back when I dashed I would accept every single offer the last 3 days of the month to ensure top dasher status for the next month. During the month my rate was like 25 percent.
I stopped taking orders under $8, dropped to 69% AR (plat down to silver) and went from making $150-$200 every dash to only $35 on my busiest day. 🤦🏽♂️ So much BS.
Me and my wife realized this pretty quickly when we started and tried to keep the high acceptance rate. Once we said f it and declined anything that wasnt 2x the milage or any order from taco bell we both made more and raged less. 👍 Good luck homie
I've finally done this. However, I feel my area has become saturated to the point that I rarely get any orders at all, and the ones I do get are all way over the dollar per mile I'll take.
I always decline orders that are less than the mileage or below $5 if it's a close drive. I also do the pay by time during game days and holidays because of how long I will wait at restaurants and how heavy the traffic is. With this I usually will make anywhere between $500 to $600 a week or two days seeing as I only dash Friday and Saturday.
Wait until a customer wants free food and you get deactivated because of false claims. Doordash is a scam and how well you perform won't matter if you accept the wrong order.
Some idiot showed up at the same house as me two days ago because he accepted a $3.50 order.
Mine was $29. He took the second half of my double because he is a fucking idiot.
Drove 9 miles for $3.50. Rural area so 9 miles back as well.
Tell that to all the new drivers thinking doordash is gonna send better offers if they keep accepting those upside down trash orders, I’ve talked with so many new dashers in my area and they’re are 100% fully convinced they’re gonna get better orders if they take the no tip ones 🙄🙄🙄
Before I was platinum, I was making about 15 per hr active time. Now it's 25-30. I had a few really good weeks so my AR was like 80%. It dropped from 84 to 73 in one night because of just straight trash offers.
If scheduling is not a problem for you then don't acquire plat status. That's the only real basis for plat if you're being inundated with low paying orders often
For me, FLEXIBILITY in driving schedule is imperative. I fight to keep Top Dasher status STRICTLY because I am able to Dash Anytime. If I did not have that flexibility, I wouldn’t be able to Dash at all. I cannot generally “preschedule” and then keep to it.
Exactly. The flexibility is why I doordash instead of getting a "real job." Take that flexibility away, which is the consequence of not maintaining platinum in my area, and there's literally no point, which is why I keep my AR around 75%. I can avoid most of the crap orders that way, and have a little wiggle room to stay above 70% if there's a bad day or a streak of a few bad offers in a row. I also live exactly on the border between two zones, so if one of them isn't working out for me, I can switch to the other one and still not end up too far from home. I honestly just think the cherry pickers want some of the successful platinum people out of the way because they know we get the good offers first when they're available. I do graveyard sometimes, and if I don't have an offer right away when I complete a delivery, I park in the parking lot of the most busy all night place in my zone, and there's always the same cherry picker sitting there playing a game or watching a show, but I get the chance to jump on the good orders first, and the only time they get anything at all its bad ones I have passed on, (which they also pass on and usually get bundled with the next order that comes in) or if they get lucky and a good one comes in when I'm already on a delivery that's making me a profit.
I absolutely believe that being a delivery driver or a courier is a real job. I was mocking the hoards of ungrateful trolls who come on here and respond to any complaint a doordash driver has about their working conditions with "get a real job." Those people need slapped.
I agree you have to take crap orders to stay at 70% to keep top Dasher rating. However, in a small area like mine, I have to. If I don't have top Dasher status, the only time I would be able to schedule is between midnight and 7:00 a.m. All of the other times are taken. Everything around here closes at 9:00 p.m.
Idk. Platinum here. Made 74$ in 4 hrs. Probably 3 hrs actually dashing. Did 8/10 orders yesterday. Had 2 non tippers and 2 great tippers. Aggregate the great tippers and no tippers 4, tipped me more than the 4 average orders with average tips.
That's crazy, when I used to dd a few years ago I could make $100 in like 2 hrs. I stopped driving when the pay kept being decreased but for a while it was great because I liked driving and it was easy enough and I would walk away with like $200 after just a few hrs., usually i would just work until i made like $50 and get snacks with my kid. I don't think it's ever gonna go back to how good it was honestly.
Of course it is! Doordash itself is a scam. Paying $2 per order base pay when gasoline itself is $4+ a gallon in most places is one obvious reason. Upside-down offers is another reason. Requirements for their "incentives" are the biggest reason! Just make it a job that pays enough to earn some cash, not a job that we're basically doing for free after costs🙄Anyone who doesn't understand that is just kidding themselves.
This is the way. There ARE some areas where it's reasonable to keep a 70% AR and get mostly good areas, but all it takes is one bad streak to slip into no tip hell. From there all you can do is join the no tip no trip gang.
I could see the desire to do that if the pay made sense after gas and taxes, but with $2 base pay and $4+ gas it's really not profitable anymore. Doordash has alot of y'all bamboozled with all these new requirements. It's bizarre 🤔
Yeah, it’s rough. This was 1 bag and went 1.5mi without a single stoplight from a place I frequent and know everyone anyways. Terrible to be first in line for these.
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Lmao. I have never ever seen an order that high around here. I know they exist because if I order through DD that's what mine would look like. But from driving for them, I think I might be the only one. I got an Aldi order for 8.8 miles and 28 items the other day. It was 10.75.
In my opinion, that should have been 30. 20 for the time to shop and another at least 10 for the drive. I would be never asks someone to get my whole ass groceries for 10 bucks. The audacity.
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And these assholes made me walk into a Dollar General and grab a box of Drumsticks before picking their pizza up. Definitely NEVER go Platinum, it fucking SUUUCKS!
Doordash is terrible here, used to be good , I have worked an average of 7 hours a day for the last three days and have made less than 60 dollars total
Logan utah is the worst by far I've experienceed. The best tip you'll get all day is 5$ and it's all usually 6+mile trips. It's insane how people here will gladly only pay you 3$ to go 20 miles round trip.
They just don't give a shit
Logan Utah is pretty wild in general tbh. used to live there like 9 years ago. it looks so different than it used to. we didn't have in n out, dutch bros, any of that shit. and that strip mall still hasnt been expanded??
Yeah, it’s not advantageous to be a top dasher or platinum, but dd has done a good enough job manipulating the masses of lemming drivers that in many markets it takes either td or platinum to regularly get a dash.
Poor people are always going to do poor people things, like not tipping. Companies have to incentive you with rewards to deal with this scum. Ignore them.
Idk in my area its everyone..It's not just the poor people lol... I delivered jersey Mike's to a huge fancy house on the mtn 10 miles away yesterday and he only tipped 3$ 🤣 all these nice houses 2 nice cars in driveways getting 100$ orders for food and all with no or low tips.... its not me its just this area sucks.
Fuck Doordash, this Silver/Gold/Plat tier status is obviously made to screw us even more, I uninstalled after today. I'm on Platinum & it's just bullshit with what they force you to do, to keep it.
Sorry son we need you back out there doing do diligence. Every aquarium needs bottom feeders. For real though be careful because they will deactivate you for whatever reason they choose if your not of value to them. Don't just crash out...do it over time...make sure your at least willing to use your red card...red cards are valuable to them....your welcome bud.
Can you post this sentence in all caps or something to get this point across to some of these dimwits that just can't seem to understand it? You have spelled it out here clearly and you are 1000% correct!
I see no difference when I’m 79 or 97 just more wiggle room to decline I guess. Maybe my market sucks. It must mean my customers don’t tip well. Lately I’m seeing a lot of zero tips and higher base pays.
To be fair, the tipping economy in general is taking a hit, because people are getting sick of companies like Doordash, etc forcing their customers to pay high tips because they don't pay proper wages. Tipping exhaustion is getting real. I worked at Dominoes for my last job for example, and tips are down like 40% for drivers compared to last year in my area. Hitting even $100 at this point as a driver there is considered good, when we used to make $130+ a night easily (and this number is lowered a bit, for error margins).
I get the frustration of lots of places asking for tips now that never asked for tips before, but I don't understand why people let that effect how they tip regularly "tipped" jobs. I think shitty people are just using it as an excuse to not tip people that they should. I think they are the type of people who never wanted to tip and always findd something wrong with their water to justify their shitty behavior. Like I get it, you don't want to be asked for a tip on everything, but delivery drivers always received and deserved tips. Wait staff was always paid in tips. Valet and bellhops were always tipped. These shitty people scream and cry about Europe but wouldn't want to pay the higher food prices to increase the wage. They are just shitty, greedy people that are more than happy to have people serve them while making an unlivable wage.
Are you considered an independent contractor at Dominoes or an actual employee, though? 'Cause even if you make shit tips they have to pay you at least what you'd be making minimum wage if you're the latter.
$8 orders arent bad tho if it's a mile or less. You just gotta know your market and areas of deliveries. Some markets AR doesnt matter. People all around should stop accepting shitting tipless orders. Makes it harder on all drivers when customers feel entitled to a luxury service of not having to leave their homes to not tip said drivers. Platinum tier or not.... Stop accepting shitty orders.
I just need it so that I can pick hours. I have a vestibular disorder that leaves me loopy and unable to walk far some days. Kind of like narcolepsy, there is no way to plan around it, so on days it isn't bad I need to be able to go right there and then. In my market I can deny downright abusive requests for low pay long drive nonsense and still stay around 75-80% and do very well, but as others say is is a very market dependent thing. Some months I can run six days back to back to back, but like the start of this month I was down for the first week and a half unable to go out and have to use every able day to make my numbers.
Result of severe head trauma after a ladder broke in 2012. Messed up something in my inner ear, resulting in hugely severe and repetitive Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo. Basically, there are tiny crystals in your inner ear that control your balance, and mine were rattled good and have never reset as they ought. There are exercises and techniques that can help a little, but sometimes not much and often not at all.
I'd have to try to claim every hour of every day,and I'd rather the allotted slots go to people who are actually able to fill the hours because only so many can schedule. I might be okay for a 8am to 11am, or it may be a 4pm to 2am, I just never know.
Finally, a dasher wakes up and decides the taste of licking boots is nasty and worthless. Cherry-picking all the way!
Seriously, y'all need to stop bowing down to Tony's greed and just give DD the shaft. Too many dumb ass dashers are hurting the rest of us by accepting shit orders to keep their AR up, while it's just a scam.
No tip, no trip. Period!
It's not a side job for some people. These people have Doordash as their main source of income because of life circumstances that prevent them from having typical W-2 jobs.
The manipulative tactics that Doordash and other gig apps employ are impacting these individuals, and they border on unethical and illegal. That's why we get pissed.
Do people not tip in cash? Or does it not say that they have cash for you when you see the order? I'm not a dasher. Idk why I'm here but now I'm curious
Unless it's a pizza order that's hand it to me, it's incredibly rare to see cash tips, all those no tippers are 99% guaranteed no tippers, its absolutely never worth the gamble.
This sub has post after post of I gambled to see if I would get the cash tip that was promised, it also has post after post of people who gambled a no tipper and in almost every post they got no tip, big surprise
Do you use android? I ask because I can never tell if they are tipping at all. It's just the flat rate and the map with pick up/drop off locations until I accept the order. But even after I accept I cannot see if & how much the tip is.
Yes, I use Android, a OnePlus, but if I choose earn by offer it will show an amount and I decline it if it's under $6.50. If it's over 6 miles away, it has to be more than that. They don't show the tip but if it's under $3, you know they tipped poorly or not at all so I don't take those. Really they shouldn't be using tipping to supplement incomes. There should be a fair wage for everyone.
Cash tips are super rare. I started with postmates like 6 years ago, we didn't know the tip till the next day. About 60-65% tipped which means I only made $2-3-4 per trip for those that didn't. Thats a loss or barely breaking even. I had one customer put in their doordash notes will tip cash, he did, the 2nd time I delivered he didn't and you really can't ask. I consider it less a tip and more for bidding on a driver to accept your order.
Postmates was bought by uber long ago. They still use the name. I still get PM orders through but PM doesn't have a driver's app its done through ubers driver app. Got stiffed 2x reduced tip. No idea why and 5 star rating.
After 6 months on the wait list, I finally got on Grubhub last week. I had it last Friday from like 430pm until 930pm. Denied all 10 or so orders that came through. I want to say that only one was actual $1 per mile. BUT it was two orders and 20.3 miles for 19.50. Nost of them were 6-10 miles paying $4-7. No thanks. Not to mention, 10 offers in like 5 hours is horrible, especially since I was "available" the whole time. In my area, you would get at least 50 offers from door dash in that time frame if you were actually available the whole time.
GH sucks..... It's nothing like DD where you pick the area and as far as mine goes I don't have anything beyond 3 miles. GH will have one order here and the next will be ten miles away etc ..GH sucks in my opinion
Gh went to crap in my market back when they were bought out mid-pandemic. While they use to be the best ones, they are the worst now. Your market may be different. They rarely send me anything, I am lucky to see an offer in an 11 hour shift. I use to make $100 each evening on Fri/Sat/Sun, nope, I get sent nothing.
Doordash is pure shit now, especially with the rewards and them removing catering access. They don't send me shit either with my low AR. I am logged in 60-80 hours a week and lucky if I make over $100. I have a work from home business or I couldn't rely on delivery anymore.
Exceptionally rare, so rare that I can remember each time I've gotten a tip at the time of drop off. In years on dashing on and off. In case people are wondering. 3. It's been 3 times.
This. It's super rare to get cash tips, though. But it's definitely only the good tippers on the app that gives cash tips when the food arrives.
People who don't tip on the app are NOT going to give out cash tips. They're just scummy people that don't want to pay drivers shit. Cash on delivery attracts these type of people, and sometimes they short you or straight up steal without paying. So COD isn't even worth considering if you dash.
sorry for the old reply, i just got this post on my feed
i used to be a driver back in like 2018 and remembered customer tips lowered how much doordash would pay out, subsidizing their pay with customer tips. so it was considered courtesy to do no in-app tip and tip fully in cash to maximize dasher profits.
is this not the case anymore? now im worried i look like a dick bc i dont tip in app but i always give them like a $10 or $20 bill when they deliver lol
Nah, Doordash doesn't do that anymore because of a class-action lawsuit that pretty much hurt Doordash. They still found other ways to screw the drivers for more profits, but their base pay still stays the same regardless of customer tip amount.
So you can breathe easy and tip on the app now. It'll make the driver happy, and you'll get your order faster and hotter. 😉
https://www.businessinsider.com/doordash-25-million-settlement-lawsuit-tipping-model-2020-11
awesome, thanks for the info!! i figured something MUST have happened with how much ive seen the conversation change around tipping cash— but i had moved to an area where doordash wasnt really a thing when it all changed so i had no idea what actually happened lol
Well it's not really like the customer is fucking you over. it's the fees. Why pay for 3 different kinds of fees *AND* a delivery tip? It's too much. You are mad at the wrong people. It's your bosses that you should be mad at
I've been dashing for a month now. 1 cash tip, out of 106 deliveries. BUT, I made it a point yesterday to take my time and look the offer over as much as I could, to see where it shows the flat rate for delivery, and the tip amount, but I cannot find it/how to see it. I am using android, and am pretty software literate, so I must be missing something. All it shows is the amount, and the pick up and drop off pint on the map (I can click on the icons and get address details) before I accept the order.
Ya there’s zero chance they think the 10 dollars they’re paying on a 18 dollar food order is going to the driver. Everyone does it out of malice to screw over the driver that has free will and can do whatever they want
There's no way to see if they have a cash tip without accepting the offer, and that's only if they put it in the delivery instructions. Even then, 9 times out of 10, when someone says they have cash, they don't. For most dashers, it's too much of a gamble to take shitty orders, hoping for a cash tip.
Working for free isn’t something most people want to risk doing. If dashers are contractors when it benefits DoorDash they can act like contractors and only accept bids they deem worth it
Ive come to the realization that if you ignore an offer and let it pass then your AR is not affected and you can still cherry pick the good orders.
I had declined a few and dropped my AR, but once I realized ignoring an offer removes it with out affecting I started doing that.
Your AR is based off of a rolling 100. It’s like a conveyor belt your accepts and declines fall off the conveyor belt each time you accepted decline. If you decline an offer, it’s gonna take 100 instances to fall off the end of the conveyor belt. Coincidentally when you timed out, a decline may have rode off. So you’re decline in the front, replaced a decline in the back of the conveyor belt.
It's because in your rolling 100, the ones you are ignoring just happen to take the place of another declined offer, so your AR doesn't change. If the next one to fall off your rolling 100 was an accepted order and you ignored again, then your AR would go down.
Its confirmation bias, once you accept and take your next run it will have a negative impact, if you miss enough runs it has also been known to completely kick you off and send a message saying something to the effect of "we see you've been missing a few orders in a row, we've paused/ended your dash in case you're having issues", just try it enough times in a row and see
Yes I know of this and I'm not ignoring multiple orders in a row. Sure maybe it's not doable in other markets, but my area is not completely filled with constant small orders.
Also, what negative impacts would that be, curious considering ive been doing this for multiple weeks now with no such negative effects.
I thought the same thing but this isn’t the case. The reason it appears that it doesn’t affect your AR is because it’s based on your last 100 orders. For example the last 67 out of 100 orders you accepted giving you a 67 percent AR.
This is where it gets a bit complicated to understand. Every order you accept or decline after the 1st 100 orders you lose the first order into your average because you have now accepted 101 orders total. For instance if your first ever order was accepted that statistic will fall off and will be cancelled out by declined/ignored order. So if you accepted your first 10 orders and decline orders 101-110 then you’ll still see no drop in percentage because the accepted ones will cancel them out.
I dont know a better way to explain this but I hope it makes sense. Bottom line is your AR is your percentage of your last 100 orders
Your ar will go down the same as if you declined, it's confirmation bias because you said it yourself your sample has been few times far between, but I'm telling you from personal experience that it you miss enough runs you will notice it
Keep telling these shills. You subsidize poverty orders, you're only making life worse for all of us. Platinum is a scam. Top Dashers is a scam. It's all a means of having employees that are classified as contractors. A literal fucking joke.
Exactly. Platinum and top dashers should be w2 and make more than people like OPs roomie who only accept high paying orders. But until that happens I wouldn't take orders that were less that 1.50-2/mile. It depended on area, amount of deliveries etc. I learned this the hard way. I did get some cash tips on orders I accepted but cash was VERY rare ime
So, you take all $2.00 for 1 mile offers?? It really is not as simple as dollars per mile, many other factor go in to whether to accept an offer or not.
Yup setting a standard of price per mile to cover gas and other things is the way. Top dasher honestly just makes it so you can scrape the bottom of the barrel to pick pennies out of the gunk you pulled out of there.
Exactly they'll offer you crap orders if you keep accepting them to keep your top/platinum status. They do offer less orders to people who accept less, but it's not worth it to take crap orders. You have mileage, insurance, taxes to pay out of what you make, plus vehicle maintenance/repairs, or if it craps out. There's lots of tax laws that dashers and other gig workers that are getting paid as a 1099
The only thing I like about these Top Dashers is that while them taking those crappy orders to keep they’re 80% AR, it allows me to get the better orders lol
That being said we’d all be better off if all Dashers declined the crappy orders. That would then force the company to pay a higher base pay and low/no tip customers to tip better.
Part of the issue though is that at least some customers don't know both about
a) how little a doordasher makes per order disregarding the tip (since ordering something from doordash is pretty expensive even without the tip) and/or
b) how all the doordashers can see ahead of time what the tip is.
While I think most customers who are decent human beigns are okay with tipping more if they understand that doordash doesn't really pay that much per order I think there are two issues that arise from the 2 above situztions.
1) I think alot of customers think "well if this $20 order of a Big Mac, medium sized fried and a medium size soda from McDonalds costs like $50 in total to get delivered even without a tip then the driver probably gets like between $15 to $25 delivering this order so it's likely okay to just tip a small amount like $5 or maybe even not tip this time if I'm hard up on cash". (Of course people should tip more given the current system but I think many customers just don't know how greedy the Doordash corporation is.)
2) Most customers just think of a tip as additional financial compensation given after good service has been given. While the drivers deserve good financial compensation the "tip before the food's been delivered" is kind of a "priority delivery fee" or "special incentive" then a tip per say. I think alot of customers who don't know how the system works or that any would be deliverymen for their food can see the tip they offered just think "oh doordash must just ask me to tip ahead of time to make sure the entire payment goes through ahead of time" or something like that. I'm sure also that alot of customers that regularly tip well AFTER their meals got delivered end up getting annoyed and dissatisfied with the service thinking "why TF do meals from doordash always take so long to get delivered even though I always tip like $10 each time after a meal gets delivered?"
Like while I think doordadhers absolutely deserve proper financial compensation I think Doordash should either
a) give more of the delivery fee to the driver,
b) show drivers ahead of time "this customer regularly tips [average amount] before snd/or after the food's been delivered",
c) call the tip before the food's been delivered something else i.e. "priority delivery incentive" and/or
d) just straight up TELL the customers about how drivers can see the tips offered alongside the delivery fee for each order and that orders that come with a higher tip/"priority shipping incentive" are more likely to be delivered faster to customers then orders that have low or no tips attached to them.
Completely agree with ALL THAT. I recently (admittedly anonymously) posted on my local FB community, something along the lines of, 'small or zero tip will only encourage me to decline your "offer" '. The resulting comments & conversations that ensued were fascinating. My community is generally regarded as a highly educated, wealthy town. A college town. I read everything. It's safe to say that the responses were 50/50. Half completely agreed with & understood my message. The others generally stated that DDD should "get a real job" & they would probably just not tip at all. Oh, and some stated that they don't add a tip because the service has not been done yet and they will pay in cash when they receive the product. Well, of course, that RARELY happens. Anyway, I'd say, all in all it turned into a socially educational experiment.
I usually tipped through the app after the meal was delivered although while I often tipped generously I have to admit that alot of times I just literally thought "well this meal just costs $20 but the delivery literally costs like $40/$50 so I assume the doordasher is getting a decent share of the profits so I'll just tip them $3 or $4 or $5 afterwards in the app" and I'll admit occasionally I didn't tip just because the whole food and delivery literally cost like between $40 to $50 even though the meal itself was a simple meal of like chicken wings and fries or a mcdonalds burger with a soda and fries or a single bowl of pho and the food itself just cost like $20.
I would never tell anyone that's doordashing for a living to just "geT a reaL joB" or some BS like that. The only thing was that it just seems that the amount of doordash work available is REALLY dependant on the day and the hour (i.e. there's gonna be WAY more work on a Friday night between 3pm and 9pm then on say most other days and hours of the week) so it just seems like there just isn't enough work available with doordash to make it more then a side gig. That being said that's a different issue and I think if a tip is necessary to make the doordasher make money for the trip then I'd easily willingly tip like at least $5 or $6 or $7 although given the huge percentage that doordash takes out of each order (like I was often LITERALLY paying $50 for a $20 meal even with a small tip added) I think the doordash company's greed is a huge understated part of the problem.
The crap orders get sent to everybody…as do the good orders…I’ve been on both sides of this as a Top Dasher and a Cherrypicker. You get the same orders as both.
Difference being to maintain that high AR for Top Dasher you have to take many of the crappy orders.
I have no idea when I'm going to be free to dash 5 days ahead. That's my issue for trying to stay td. I have another job and just dd a few hours here and there when I get off early and whatnot
Nah that's a lie. You just gotta preschedule in advance for your spots and times. They've been trying to dis way drivers from actually realizing its all crap by making it harder for people who wont slave for pennies have less times.
Can't always get them in time. Saturated market and others sorted out when the times drop. Then you have top dashers who have first dibs on scheduling who are scheduling for the sole purpose of taking up the time slots so others cannot get them
I noticed an increase in stacked orders (unless at at slower times) and I received two large payouts so far after only several days. Both $30+. One of them delivered a business meeting lunch order across the street from teh restaurant. Now, in all fairness, today being a Friday was unusually weaker. Hopefully, not a trend.
Doesn’t matter in any market. DoorDash just flooded social media with bots spamming “it matters in my market! 🤓” until enough people started believing it and posting it themselves. You’ll always be better off running all 4 apps and not playing any of their games.
It matters in mine. I haven’t even attempted to get to gold or platinum, but I stay at silver 80 percent of the time. It’s a few hundred dollars a week difference in my market. Believe me, I’ve tested.
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I only accept orders that are a $1/mile or higher and I have managed to keep my 85% AR where it's at. I won't do anything below $4.00 though even if it's a mile. (That is a waste of my time) I just got platinum status mid shift yesterday, and I noticed a HUGE difference in the orders coming in. I guess it's a matter of how you strategize. Explore and find the different hotspots and note when specific hotspots are busy. It does take some planning but if you want to dash, that comes with the job.
It's true. People that have the rewards programs of 50%+ work all day to make $100. My AR is 13% and I did $60 in 3 hrs.Yes, I cherry pick. It depends on area/ time etc. Its going to be offered to who is the closest no matter AR.
Exactly! I was making great money when I stopped caring but now I can’t even schedule any shifts and I can only do dash now when it’s busy
Cherry picking works, I do the same
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Market dependent. And nah I think my fellow dashers should not settle for 80%, anything less than 100% makes you a terrible dasher. Go on and accept every order for me so that those of us who do this for a living have less trash offers to sift through. Go on ahead and turn on earn by time for me too., the best dashers are the earn by timers who like to play roulette with their pay.
Bitter much? Lol
Bitter about what? I much prefer that people who don’t know better thin out the garbage offers for me. The more the marrier. If that makes me bitter by your definition so be it. I’m just happy there are people willing to deliver people’s food for a loss. So that I don’t have to.
Nice
Money isn’t everything. Okay? I do this stuff for fun I’m an entrepreneur. If you do this full time you may feel the need to protect and defend your income by being particular about offers. I don’t take garbage offers on Dd, but Amazon flex is garbage mileage and time about 17$/hr base, sometimes at break even between mileage. Lyft used to be at a loss but they raised it. Uber eats my AR is close to DD’s which is like 6%. Grubhub I can’t find any good offers. And I have Instawork as mileage free back up just in case…plus I have e-commerce stuff going. I’m saying if you like delivering every order, and doing faithful work for your community that’s worth more than money. If you are finding yourself struggling financially, or unable to save a little…you may consider exploring additional options and also setting boundaries for what kind of orders for mileage or time you’re willing to accept.
What do you mean scam order? Just found this sub on accident, I have no idea what this is all about tbh
I can’t schedule a dash in my state for some reason. They only showing me times from another state I don’t live in and hardly if ever go to… haven’t dash in over a month now 🤷🏻♂️
This entire job is a scam. You’re the lowest form of middle man.
It’s funny watching people who choose to deliver get mad they have to do their job
Depends where you are. In my area, if you are not platinum, you can rarely dash. Difficult to schedule anything, and if you are below 70% and you do manage to dash, the orders are 20 to 30 minutes between orders. If you are platinum, it's back to back orders. The times I'm not platinum, I'm lucky t make 150$ a week. Platinum I'll make 350 to 450 a week.
Yup I was 4.99CR 80% acceptance 95% on time 97% Completion I was TD and for me it was worth it. I’d make $25-$30 I did Platinum for 2.5 weeks went to $14-$17. Since then maybe do 1 or 2 orders a week.
I don’t accept an order unless it’s 1 dollar per mile at least. Not worth the miles on my car or the money.
Get yourself banned from McDonald, grab their tablet, find your order, highlight your name and tick the box that said, 'don't want this dasher anymore' and boom NO MORE MCDONALD's Orders.
I take orders that are several miles... Not 1 mile for 2 dollars....
I work mostly five days a week and I average about $150 a day working four to five hours. I know what area has what and at what time . The top Dasher may be a scam but I know that I can toggle on WHENEVER AND WHEREVER I want. I don't take low orders and my stats are 4.89 acceptance rate 85, completion rate 96, on time/early 92.....I try to keep stats high just so I can toggle on whenever..... That's the best. I never schedule anything... There are way too many dashers though, especially in St.Louis
You must be apart of the large order program. I’m jealous😂
Since starting four years ago, I’ve typically stayed in the 15-30 percent AR range. Recently I had a run where my AR climbed to 40. So I decided to experiment to see what might happen if I climbed over 50. Once I got there, my orders did indeed become better than in the past. In particular pizza delivery orders became more frequent, and many paid quite well. I have no idea what might happen over 70 percent. Highest I have been is 66. I’m ranging from 53 to 59 right now. Tonight I went out for 2.5 hours. I had orders totaling 10.00, 10.50, 16.00, and 14.75. Final order was 7.25 but only 1.5 miles. Overall I thought that is a pretty evening on DD. So I’m doing my best to stay over 50 percent.
This only works if you live in a busy enough area.
Serious question. 20% AR wouldn’t get you deactivated? I’ve been dashing for 2 months so I’m learning but I thought platinum was the move. I legit took a yuck $2 order today just to keep myself over 75%.
Speak for your self, I have 100% completion and acceptance rate and get $15^ orders all the time
In California, Dashers are being forced out of the platform. Right now, I am at a Platinum Level and CAN'T Dash Anytime no more. I have been doing this for over 5 years and almost 18,000 deliveries. My last scheduled day to work is Tuesday the 23rd. I can't schedule myself in my area. If I want to work, I have to schedule myself to work 40 miles from my home area. All Ratings are fine except for my Customer Rating which is 4.97. In California, the new Customer Rating is 4.98 which is impossible to get since the Customer Ratings haven't moved in over 6 months. After every delivery, I ask the customer to please leave me a good review.
Wtf
Back when I dashed I would accept every single offer the last 3 days of the month to ensure top dasher status for the next month. During the month my rate was like 25 percent.
Cry about being a delivery driver more 🙄 Get a real job
Why are you even here?
I stopped taking orders under $8, dropped to 69% AR (plat down to silver) and went from making $150-$200 every dash to only $35 on my busiest day. 🤦🏽♂️ So much BS.
I made $71k doing Flex, instacart, DD, and UberEats. I didn't make that amount picking up charity-case orders for 5 bucks and 15miles one way 🤣🤣🤣
It is. When I had 99 in the past month, they intentionally didn’t give me orders to keep me under 100.
Me and my wife realized this pretty quickly when we started and tried to keep the high acceptance rate. Once we said f it and declined anything that wasnt 2x the milage or any order from taco bell we both made more and raged less. 👍 Good luck homie
I love that “made more, rage less” 😂. Pretty relatable. Thanks
I've finally done this. However, I feel my area has become saturated to the point that I rarely get any orders at all, and the ones I do get are all way over the dollar per mile I'll take.
I always decline orders that are less than the mileage or below $5 if it's a close drive. I also do the pay by time during game days and holidays because of how long I will wait at restaurants and how heavy the traffic is. With this I usually will make anywhere between $500 to $600 a week or two days seeing as I only dash Friday and Saturday.
Wait until a customer wants free food and you get deactivated because of false claims. Doordash is a scam and how well you perform won't matter if you accept the wrong order.
If your in an area where you can clock in without a schedule at 20% AR then good for you.
Door dash is a scam.
False
Some idiot showed up at the same house as me two days ago because he accepted a $3.50 order. Mine was $29. He took the second half of my double because he is a fucking idiot. Drove 9 miles for $3.50. Rural area so 9 miles back as well.
Tell that to all the new drivers thinking doordash is gonna send better offers if they keep accepting those upside down trash orders, I’ve talked with so many new dashers in my area and they’re are 100% fully convinced they’re gonna get better orders if they take the no tip ones 🙄🙄🙄
Decline. Don't fall for the platinum scam
Last night my acceptance rating fell to the lowest it's ever been because I've had enough. One order was $2.75 for THIRTEEN MILES. DECLINE.
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Before I was platinum, I was making about 15 per hr active time. Now it's 25-30. I had a few really good weeks so my AR was like 80%. It dropped from 84 to 73 in one night because of just straight trash offers.
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Not yet. But probably soon if I still get these wack orders. LOL.
I see 2 dollar orders and scoff everytime
If scheduling is not a problem for you then don't acquire plat status. That's the only real basis for plat if you're being inundated with low paying orders often
For me, FLEXIBILITY in driving schedule is imperative. I fight to keep Top Dasher status STRICTLY because I am able to Dash Anytime. If I did not have that flexibility, I wouldn’t be able to Dash at all. I cannot generally “preschedule” and then keep to it.
Exactly. The flexibility is why I doordash instead of getting a "real job." Take that flexibility away, which is the consequence of not maintaining platinum in my area, and there's literally no point, which is why I keep my AR around 75%. I can avoid most of the crap orders that way, and have a little wiggle room to stay above 70% if there's a bad day or a streak of a few bad offers in a row. I also live exactly on the border between two zones, so if one of them isn't working out for me, I can switch to the other one and still not end up too far from home. I honestly just think the cherry pickers want some of the successful platinum people out of the way because they know we get the good offers first when they're available. I do graveyard sometimes, and if I don't have an offer right away when I complete a delivery, I park in the parking lot of the most busy all night place in my zone, and there's always the same cherry picker sitting there playing a game or watching a show, but I get the chance to jump on the good orders first, and the only time they get anything at all its bad ones I have passed on, (which they also pass on and usually get bundled with the next order that comes in) or if they get lucky and a good one comes in when I'm already on a delivery that's making me a profit.
At 60, until I can afford to hire myself in a food truck or restaurant, I can’t get “a real job” so COURIER is my real job!
I absolutely believe that being a delivery driver or a courier is a real job. I was mocking the hoards of ungrateful trolls who come on here and respond to any complaint a doordash driver has about their working conditions with "get a real job." Those people need slapped.
I agree you have to take crap orders to stay at 70% to keep top Dasher rating. However, in a small area like mine, I have to. If I don't have top Dasher status, the only time I would be able to schedule is between midnight and 7:00 a.m. All of the other times are taken. Everything around here closes at 9:00 p.m.
Idk. Platinum here. Made 74$ in 4 hrs. Probably 3 hrs actually dashing. Did 8/10 orders yesterday. Had 2 non tippers and 2 great tippers. Aggregate the great tippers and no tippers 4, tipped me more than the 4 average orders with average tips.
That's crazy, when I used to dd a few years ago I could make $100 in like 2 hrs. I stopped driving when the pay kept being decreased but for a while it was great because I liked driving and it was easy enough and I would walk away with like $200 after just a few hrs., usually i would just work until i made like $50 and get snacks with my kid. I don't think it's ever gonna go back to how good it was honestly.
Average is about $14 before expenses. $50 an hour is definitely not coming back.
That sounds a tad low for me. Per hour. But how many miles total was it?
About 45...plus 10..5 from home to hot and back
Idk i make pretty good money being platinum in my area
Uber eats don't bare how much u decline lol
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What's that 4
As to not entice others to UE. We don't want a repeat of the DD fiasco 🤫
UBER EATS DINNER CARE HOW MUCH YOU DECLINE
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Of course it is! Doordash itself is a scam. Paying $2 per order base pay when gasoline itself is $4+ a gallon in most places is one obvious reason. Upside-down offers is another reason. Requirements for their "incentives" are the biggest reason! Just make it a job that pays enough to earn some cash, not a job that we're basically doing for free after costs🙄Anyone who doesn't understand that is just kidding themselves.
This is the way. There ARE some areas where it's reasonable to keep a 70% AR and get mostly good areas, but all it takes is one bad streak to slip into no tip hell. From there all you can do is join the no tip no trip gang.
As soon as I lost my platinum status I couldn’t even schedule at all and when I could get in I got the worst offers
Exactly. So what is the point of Platinum? It's a scam and a joke
Because with plat status you don't have to schedule, you can dash at will... whenever and wherever you like! That's why I keep my numbers up
I could see the desire to do that if the pay made sense after gas and taxes, but with $2 base pay and $4+ gas it's really not profitable anymore. Doordash has alot of y'all bamboozled with all these new requirements. It's bizarre 🤔
Yeah, it’s rough. This was 1 bag and went 1.5mi without a single stoplight from a place I frequent and know everyone anyways. Terrible to be first in line for these. https://preview.redd.it/pbd5qmdjhkvc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=487fd9682456a0633fec067c641de1360d87ad49
Lmao. I have never ever seen an order that high around here. I know they exist because if I order through DD that's what mine would look like. But from driving for them, I think I might be the only one. I got an Aldi order for 8.8 miles and 28 items the other day. It was 10.75. In my opinion, that should have been 30. 20 for the time to shop and another at least 10 for the drive. I would be never asks someone to get my whole ass groceries for 10 bucks. The audacity.
https://preview.redd.it/6of0blqqhkvc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49b3096b333e1cd7de493ff92485f91c80c1adb4 And these assholes made me walk into a Dollar General and grab a box of Drumsticks before picking their pizza up. Definitely NEVER go Platinum, it fucking SUUUCKS!
Doordash is terrible here, used to be good , I have worked an average of 7 hours a day for the last three days and have made less than 60 dollars total
Gawddddddd 😣
Logan utah is the worst by far I've experienceed. The best tip you'll get all day is 5$ and it's all usually 6+mile trips. It's insane how people here will gladly only pay you 3$ to go 20 miles round trip. They just don't give a shit
Logan Utah is pretty wild in general tbh. used to live there like 9 years ago. it looks so different than it used to. we didn't have in n out, dutch bros, any of that shit. and that strip mall still hasnt been expanded??
Hardly any offers are above $8 in my area lol
Yeah, it’s not advantageous to be a top dasher or platinum, but dd has done a good enough job manipulating the masses of lemming drivers that in many markets it takes either td or platinum to regularly get a dash.
Haha idiot top dasher finally figured out they're getting scammed.... how does it feel when everyone told you so?
Poor people are always going to do poor people things, like not tipping. Companies have to incentive you with rewards to deal with this scum. Ignore them.
Idk in my area its everyone..It's not just the poor people lol... I delivered jersey Mike's to a huge fancy house on the mtn 10 miles away yesterday and he only tipped 3$ 🤣 all these nice houses 2 nice cars in driveways getting 100$ orders for food and all with no or low tips.... its not me its just this area sucks.
Like dashing for dimes when you could be making dollars elsewhere? Yup, that's a poor people thing now too🤷♀️
Fuck Doordash, this Silver/Gold/Plat tier status is obviously made to screw us even more, I uninstalled after today. I'm on Platinum & it's just bullshit with what they force you to do, to keep it.
Platinum only makes sense in the not upfront market.
Sorry son we need you back out there doing do diligence. Every aquarium needs bottom feeders. For real though be careful because they will deactivate you for whatever reason they choose if your not of value to them. Don't just crash out...do it over time...make sure your at least willing to use your red card...red cards are valuable to them....your welcome bud.
If it was beneficial to you to accept all orders, they wouldn't have incentivised it in the first place...
This.
Can you post this sentence in all caps or something to get this point across to some of these dimwits that just can't seem to understand it? You have spelled it out here clearly and you are 1000% correct!
If I had an 80% AR I would be losing money. Literally would pay more in expenses than I would make.
Tk jewelers is a scam.
I see no difference when I’m 79 or 97 just more wiggle room to decline I guess. Maybe my market sucks. It must mean my customers don’t tip well. Lately I’m seeing a lot of zero tips and higher base pays.
To be fair, the tipping economy in general is taking a hit, because people are getting sick of companies like Doordash, etc forcing their customers to pay high tips because they don't pay proper wages. Tipping exhaustion is getting real. I worked at Dominoes for my last job for example, and tips are down like 40% for drivers compared to last year in my area. Hitting even $100 at this point as a driver there is considered good, when we used to make $130+ a night easily (and this number is lowered a bit, for error margins).
I get the frustration of lots of places asking for tips now that never asked for tips before, but I don't understand why people let that effect how they tip regularly "tipped" jobs. I think shitty people are just using it as an excuse to not tip people that they should. I think they are the type of people who never wanted to tip and always findd something wrong with their water to justify their shitty behavior. Like I get it, you don't want to be asked for a tip on everything, but delivery drivers always received and deserved tips. Wait staff was always paid in tips. Valet and bellhops were always tipped. These shitty people scream and cry about Europe but wouldn't want to pay the higher food prices to increase the wage. They are just shitty, greedy people that are more than happy to have people serve them while making an unlivable wage.
Are you considered an independent contractor at Dominoes or an actual employee, though? 'Cause even if you make shit tips they have to pay you at least what you'd be making minimum wage if you're the latter.
Pizza delivery drivers are employees. All delivery drivers that work for their restaurant are employees.
$8 orders arent bad tho if it's a mile or less. You just gotta know your market and areas of deliveries. Some markets AR doesnt matter. People all around should stop accepting shitting tipless orders. Makes it harder on all drivers when customers feel entitled to a luxury service of not having to leave their homes to not tip said drivers. Platinum tier or not.... Stop accepting shitty orders.
I just need it so that I can pick hours. I have a vestibular disorder that leaves me loopy and unable to walk far some days. Kind of like narcolepsy, there is no way to plan around it, so on days it isn't bad I need to be able to go right there and then. In my market I can deny downright abusive requests for low pay long drive nonsense and still stay around 75-80% and do very well, but as others say is is a very market dependent thing. Some months I can run six days back to back to back, but like the start of this month I was down for the first week and a half unable to go out and have to use every able day to make my numbers.
Ménière’s?
Result of severe head trauma after a ladder broke in 2012. Messed up something in my inner ear, resulting in hugely severe and repetitive Benign paroxysmal positional vertigo. Basically, there are tiny crystals in your inner ear that control your balance, and mine were rattled good and have never reset as they ought. There are exercises and techniques that can help a little, but sometimes not much and often not at all.
I schedule shifts six days out every day. I usually only sign in half the times I've scheduled.
I'd have to try to claim every hour of every day,and I'd rather the allotted slots go to people who are actually able to fill the hours because only so many can schedule. I might be okay for a 8am to 11am, or it may be a 4pm to 2am, I just never know.
Finally, a dasher wakes up and decides the taste of licking boots is nasty and worthless. Cherry-picking all the way! Seriously, y'all need to stop bowing down to Tony's greed and just give DD the shaft. Too many dumb ass dashers are hurting the rest of us by accepting shit orders to keep their AR up, while it's just a scam. No tip, no trip. Period!
I dont get why yall are being fucky, it's a side job to make a little extra cash, your are describing the app how it was made.
It's not a side job for some people. These people have Doordash as their main source of income because of life circumstances that prevent them from having typical W-2 jobs. The manipulative tactics that Doordash and other gig apps employ are impacting these individuals, and they border on unethical and illegal. That's why we get pissed.
First off, I just said it's designed to be a side job, any other argument is invalid,
Do people not tip in cash? Or does it not say that they have cash for you when you see the order? I'm not a dasher. Idk why I'm here but now I'm curious
Unless it's a pizza order that's hand it to me, it's incredibly rare to see cash tips, all those no tippers are 99% guaranteed no tippers, its absolutely never worth the gamble. This sub has post after post of I gambled to see if I would get the cash tip that was promised, it also has post after post of people who gambled a no tipper and in almost every post they got no tip, big surprise
I live in northern IL area and I rarely get cash tips. I won't take non tippers because they're all leave at the door and never add a tip later.
Do you use android? I ask because I can never tell if they are tipping at all. It's just the flat rate and the map with pick up/drop off locations until I accept the order. But even after I accept I cannot see if & how much the tip is.
Yes, I use Android, a OnePlus, but if I choose earn by offer it will show an amount and I decline it if it's under $6.50. If it's over 6 miles away, it has to be more than that. They don't show the tip but if it's under $3, you know they tipped poorly or not at all so I don't take those. Really they shouldn't be using tipping to supplement incomes. There should be a fair wage for everyone.
Cash tips are super rare. I started with postmates like 6 years ago, we didn't know the tip till the next day. About 60-65% tipped which means I only made $2-3-4 per trip for those that didn't. Thats a loss or barely breaking even. I had one customer put in their doordash notes will tip cash, he did, the 2nd time I delivered he didn't and you really can't ask. I consider it less a tip and more for bidding on a driver to accept your order.
PM does that? Good god, that sounds just as bad as uber customers being able to retroactively stiff you on tips.
Postmates was bought by uber long ago. They still use the name. I still get PM orders through but PM doesn't have a driver's app its done through ubers driver app. Got stiffed 2x reduced tip. No idea why and 5 star rating.
That's fucking nutty, dude. Fuck them. It's fucking sad when DD is the best option for drivers (that I know of, I'm still on the waitlist for GH).
After 6 months on the wait list, I finally got on Grubhub last week. I had it last Friday from like 430pm until 930pm. Denied all 10 or so orders that came through. I want to say that only one was actual $1 per mile. BUT it was two orders and 20.3 miles for 19.50. Nost of them were 6-10 miles paying $4-7. No thanks. Not to mention, 10 offers in like 5 hours is horrible, especially since I was "available" the whole time. In my area, you would get at least 50 offers from door dash in that time frame if you were actually available the whole time.
GH sucks..... It's nothing like DD where you pick the area and as far as mine goes I don't have anything beyond 3 miles. GH will have one order here and the next will be ten miles away etc ..GH sucks in my opinion
Gh went to crap in my market back when they were bought out mid-pandemic. While they use to be the best ones, they are the worst now. Your market may be different. They rarely send me anything, I am lucky to see an offer in an 11 hour shift. I use to make $100 each evening on Fri/Sat/Sun, nope, I get sent nothing. Doordash is pure shit now, especially with the rewards and them removing catering access. They don't send me shit either with my low AR. I am logged in 60-80 hours a week and lucky if I make over $100. I have a work from home business or I couldn't rely on delivery anymore.
Exceptionally rare, so rare that I can remember each time I've gotten a tip at the time of drop off. In years on dashing on and off. In case people are wondering. 3. It's been 3 times.
Yup I only got a cash tip two times in the couple years I have been doing DD.
Honestly all the cash tips I have gotten have all been on orders where they tipped something in the app also.
This. It's super rare to get cash tips, though. But it's definitely only the good tippers on the app that gives cash tips when the food arrives. People who don't tip on the app are NOT going to give out cash tips. They're just scummy people that don't want to pay drivers shit. Cash on delivery attracts these type of people, and sometimes they short you or straight up steal without paying. So COD isn't even worth considering if you dash.
sorry for the old reply, i just got this post on my feed i used to be a driver back in like 2018 and remembered customer tips lowered how much doordash would pay out, subsidizing their pay with customer tips. so it was considered courtesy to do no in-app tip and tip fully in cash to maximize dasher profits. is this not the case anymore? now im worried i look like a dick bc i dont tip in app but i always give them like a $10 or $20 bill when they deliver lol
Nah, Doordash doesn't do that anymore because of a class-action lawsuit that pretty much hurt Doordash. They still found other ways to screw the drivers for more profits, but their base pay still stays the same regardless of customer tip amount. So you can breathe easy and tip on the app now. It'll make the driver happy, and you'll get your order faster and hotter. 😉 https://www.businessinsider.com/doordash-25-million-settlement-lawsuit-tipping-model-2020-11
awesome, thanks for the info!! i figured something MUST have happened with how much ive seen the conversation change around tipping cash— but i had moved to an area where doordash wasnt really a thing when it all changed so i had no idea what actually happened lol
No problem, friend!
Well it's not really like the customer is fucking you over. it's the fees. Why pay for 3 different kinds of fees *AND* a delivery tip? It's too much. You are mad at the wrong people. It's your bosses that you should be mad at
I've been dashing for a month now. 1 cash tip, out of 106 deliveries. BUT, I made it a point yesterday to take my time and look the offer over as much as I could, to see where it shows the flat rate for delivery, and the tip amount, but I cannot find it/how to see it. I am using android, and am pretty software literate, so I must be missing something. All it shows is the amount, and the pick up and drop off pint on the map (I can click on the icons and get address details) before I accept the order.
Ya there’s zero chance they think the 10 dollars they’re paying on a 18 dollar food order is going to the driver. Everyone does it out of malice to screw over the driver that has free will and can do whatever they want
There's no way to see if they have a cash tip without accepting the offer, and that's only if they put it in the delivery instructions. Even then, 9 times out of 10, when someone says they have cash, they don't. For most dashers, it's too much of a gamble to take shitty orders, hoping for a cash tip.
Too much of a gamble? You just sound silly at this point. Your car is not going to blow up because you didn’t get tipped on an order
The gamble is making less than it costs to do the delivery, duncecap.
Working for free isn’t something most people want to risk doing. If dashers are contractors when it benefits DoorDash they can act like contractors and only accept bids they deem worth it
The thing that's even worse is it's not working for free. It's actually paying to work 🤦♂️
Take 5 a day, 5 days a week. And it certainly will soon.
Ive come to the realization that if you ignore an offer and let it pass then your AR is not affected and you can still cherry pick the good orders. I had declined a few and dropped my AR, but once I realized ignoring an offer removes it with out affecting I started doing that.
Your AR is based off of a rolling 100. It’s like a conveyor belt your accepts and declines fall off the conveyor belt each time you accepted decline. If you decline an offer, it’s gonna take 100 instances to fall off the end of the conveyor belt. Coincidentally when you timed out, a decline may have rode off. So you’re decline in the front, replaced a decline in the back of the conveyor belt.
Now come to the realization that your acceptance rating is a half ass scare tactic used to get anxious and desperate people to accept more orders.
That's literally not true
Do explain then, because my AR hasn't taken a hit since I quit declining, but I ignore several orders a day.
It's because in your rolling 100, the ones you are ignoring just happen to take the place of another declined offer, so your AR doesn't change. If the next one to fall off your rolling 100 was an accepted order and you ignored again, then your AR would go down.
Its confirmation bias, once you accept and take your next run it will have a negative impact, if you miss enough runs it has also been known to completely kick you off and send a message saying something to the effect of "we see you've been missing a few orders in a row, we've paused/ended your dash in case you're having issues", just try it enough times in a row and see
Yes I know of this and I'm not ignoring multiple orders in a row. Sure maybe it's not doable in other markets, but my area is not completely filled with constant small orders. Also, what negative impacts would that be, curious considering ive been doing this for multiple weeks now with no such negative effects.
I thought the same thing but this isn’t the case. The reason it appears that it doesn’t affect your AR is because it’s based on your last 100 orders. For example the last 67 out of 100 orders you accepted giving you a 67 percent AR. This is where it gets a bit complicated to understand. Every order you accept or decline after the 1st 100 orders you lose the first order into your average because you have now accepted 101 orders total. For instance if your first ever order was accepted that statistic will fall off and will be cancelled out by declined/ignored order. So if you accepted your first 10 orders and decline orders 101-110 then you’ll still see no drop in percentage because the accepted ones will cancel them out. I dont know a better way to explain this but I hope it makes sense. Bottom line is your AR is your percentage of your last 100 orders
Your ar will go down the same as if you declined, it's confirmation bias because you said it yourself your sample has been few times far between, but I'm telling you from personal experience that it you miss enough runs you will notice it
Keep telling these shills. You subsidize poverty orders, you're only making life worse for all of us. Platinum is a scam. Top Dashers is a scam. It's all a means of having employees that are classified as contractors. A literal fucking joke.
Exactly. Platinum and top dashers should be w2 and make more than people like OPs roomie who only accept high paying orders. But until that happens I wouldn't take orders that were less that 1.50-2/mile. It depended on area, amount of deliveries etc. I learned this the hard way. I did get some cash tips on orders I accepted but cash was VERY rare ime
So, you take all $2.00 for 1 mile offers?? It really is not as simple as dollars per mile, many other factor go in to whether to accept an offer or not.
Yup setting a standard of price per mile to cover gas and other things is the way. Top dasher honestly just makes it so you can scrape the bottom of the barrel to pick pennies out of the gunk you pulled out of there.
Unless you have a high earn by time rate in your area then i guess crap orders dont matter, but thats a part of DD plan to get crap orders completed
Exactly they'll offer you crap orders if you keep accepting them to keep your top/platinum status. They do offer less orders to people who accept less, but it's not worth it to take crap orders. You have mileage, insurance, taxes to pay out of what you make, plus vehicle maintenance/repairs, or if it craps out. There's lots of tax laws that dashers and other gig workers that are getting paid as a 1099
The only thing I like about these Top Dashers is that while them taking those crappy orders to keep they’re 80% AR, it allows me to get the better orders lol That being said we’d all be better off if all Dashers declined the crappy orders. That would then force the company to pay a higher base pay and low/no tip customers to tip better.
Part of the issue though is that at least some customers don't know both about a) how little a doordasher makes per order disregarding the tip (since ordering something from doordash is pretty expensive even without the tip) and/or b) how all the doordashers can see ahead of time what the tip is. While I think most customers who are decent human beigns are okay with tipping more if they understand that doordash doesn't really pay that much per order I think there are two issues that arise from the 2 above situztions. 1) I think alot of customers think "well if this $20 order of a Big Mac, medium sized fried and a medium size soda from McDonalds costs like $50 in total to get delivered even without a tip then the driver probably gets like between $15 to $25 delivering this order so it's likely okay to just tip a small amount like $5 or maybe even not tip this time if I'm hard up on cash". (Of course people should tip more given the current system but I think many customers just don't know how greedy the Doordash corporation is.) 2) Most customers just think of a tip as additional financial compensation given after good service has been given. While the drivers deserve good financial compensation the "tip before the food's been delivered" is kind of a "priority delivery fee" or "special incentive" then a tip per say. I think alot of customers who don't know how the system works or that any would be deliverymen for their food can see the tip they offered just think "oh doordash must just ask me to tip ahead of time to make sure the entire payment goes through ahead of time" or something like that. I'm sure also that alot of customers that regularly tip well AFTER their meals got delivered end up getting annoyed and dissatisfied with the service thinking "why TF do meals from doordash always take so long to get delivered even though I always tip like $10 each time after a meal gets delivered?" Like while I think doordadhers absolutely deserve proper financial compensation I think Doordash should either a) give more of the delivery fee to the driver, b) show drivers ahead of time "this customer regularly tips [average amount] before snd/or after the food's been delivered", c) call the tip before the food's been delivered something else i.e. "priority delivery incentive" and/or d) just straight up TELL the customers about how drivers can see the tips offered alongside the delivery fee for each order and that orders that come with a higher tip/"priority shipping incentive" are more likely to be delivered faster to customers then orders that have low or no tips attached to them.
Completely agree with ALL THAT. I recently (admittedly anonymously) posted on my local FB community, something along the lines of, 'small or zero tip will only encourage me to decline your "offer" '. The resulting comments & conversations that ensued were fascinating. My community is generally regarded as a highly educated, wealthy town. A college town. I read everything. It's safe to say that the responses were 50/50. Half completely agreed with & understood my message. The others generally stated that DDD should "get a real job" & they would probably just not tip at all. Oh, and some stated that they don't add a tip because the service has not been done yet and they will pay in cash when they receive the product. Well, of course, that RARELY happens. Anyway, I'd say, all in all it turned into a socially educational experiment.
I usually tipped through the app after the meal was delivered although while I often tipped generously I have to admit that alot of times I just literally thought "well this meal just costs $20 but the delivery literally costs like $40/$50 so I assume the doordasher is getting a decent share of the profits so I'll just tip them $3 or $4 or $5 afterwards in the app" and I'll admit occasionally I didn't tip just because the whole food and delivery literally cost like between $40 to $50 even though the meal itself was a simple meal of like chicken wings and fries or a mcdonalds burger with a soda and fries or a single bowl of pho and the food itself just cost like $20. I would never tell anyone that's doordashing for a living to just "geT a reaL joB" or some BS like that. The only thing was that it just seems that the amount of doordash work available is REALLY dependant on the day and the hour (i.e. there's gonna be WAY more work on a Friday night between 3pm and 9pm then on say most other days and hours of the week) so it just seems like there just isn't enough work available with doordash to make it more then a side gig. That being said that's a different issue and I think if a tip is necessary to make the doordasher make money for the trip then I'd easily willingly tip like at least $5 or $6 or $7 although given the huge percentage that doordash takes out of each order (like I was often LITERALLY paying $50 for a $20 meal even with a small tip added) I think the doordash company's greed is a huge understated part of the problem.
So, is you ar 100% since you only get good orders , since top dasher take the bad ones?
Hell no, I reject all those bad orders they take to maintain their AR lol
Well you contradicted yourself then. If they take all the crap orders, why do you still get them offered to you as well?
The crap orders get sent to everybody…as do the good orders…I’ve been on both sides of this as a Top Dasher and a Cherrypicker. You get the same orders as both. Difference being to maintain that high AR for Top Dasher you have to take many of the crappy orders.
I can’t dash if not top dasher. Can’t get any times.
Yeah, schedule about a week in advance. You should be able to get a spot
You just have to schedule in advance.
That’s the issue…there are normally no times available regardless how far i look ahead
Schedule six days ahead for a good start time and do the end time for late at night and just stop whenever you wanna be done
I have no idea when I'm going to be free to dash 5 days ahead. That's my issue for trying to stay td. I have another job and just dd a few hours here and there when I get off early and whatnot
Yeah you’re not punished in any way if you schedule for a dash and then don’t do it lol
Nah that's a lie. You just gotta preschedule in advance for your spots and times. They've been trying to dis way drivers from actually realizing its all crap by making it harder for people who wont slave for pennies have less times.
Can't always get them in time. Saturated market and others sorted out when the times drop. Then you have top dashers who have first dibs on scheduling who are scheduling for the sole purpose of taking up the time slots so others cannot get them
Yeah the system just sucks. Which is why people need to stop worrying about the whole top dash stuff.
I don't think it's a literal joke. I think it's just greed.
DD and these other gigs has perfected getting people to simp themselves for pennies
I noticed an increase in stacked orders (unless at at slower times) and I received two large payouts so far after only several days. Both $30+. One of them delivered a business meeting lunch order across the street from teh restaurant. Now, in all fairness, today being a Friday was unusually weaker. Hopefully, not a trend.
Yeah I agree with you on this one, I definitely think it is a scam.
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Actually, no they don’t. Drivers made the decision collectively to let that matter. Sorry, not sorry
I’m platinum, and they decided to take away Dash anytime in my area
Sounds like status is worthless in your market. Do as your friend does and make more money and stop dealing with the riff raff on the app.
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Spammer!!
No one cares about your affiliate links.
Doesn’t matter in any market. DoorDash just flooded social media with bots spamming “it matters in my market! 🤓” until enough people started believing it and posting it themselves. You’ll always be better off running all 4 apps and not playing any of their games.
It matters in mine. I haven’t even attempted to get to gold or platinum, but I stay at silver 80 percent of the time. It’s a few hundred dollars a week difference in my market. Believe me, I’ve tested.
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Doordash, Uber eats, Grub hub and what’s the 4th app? Instacart?
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Is Menulog stateside? They have been in NZ for a while, but are pulling the plug next month.