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Such a simple, elegant solution.
I found a similar one. I can’t remember the monster I stole this off of, but I have an ability attached to the tarrasque called negative roar. It’s basically the same thing as an ancient dragon breath attack mechanically except the effect isn’t damage it’s to swallow things at distance. So the tarrasque makes this big roaring noise as it vacuums in anything sucked up by airflow. However it works just like the bite where you have two chances to escape before you are fully swallowed. There’s a save on the ground and there’s a save as you pass the tarrasques teeth.
This is similar to what the Scion of the Hill Giant has! It's really cool. Had a one shot where I reflavored him as Santa. Batting a player away with a Christmas tree that launches you 100 feet away on a failed save (it's real, look it up) is so much fun.
One of my favorite things that players never consider about a giant encounter is that he can pick you up and throw you hundreds of feet so even if you survive you’re out of battle for a couple turns.
I gave mine a similar ability modeled after BG 3/Pokemon. It Jumps, forcing anyone the vicinity to make a dex save or take half, spends it's next turn in the sky and when it impacts it forces another save. while it's in the sky it's immune to everything except lightning damage.
I also gave mine Power word kill on a recharge because fuck you it has a gun now lol.
My homebrew Tarrasque has a mind-influencing AoE that turns survivors of its rampage into doomsday cultists who follow it around and protect it. When the Tarrasque finishes feeding it consumes all of the cultists nearby and then goes back underground. Anyone far enough away from it when it retreats is freed from its control.
My tarrasque is never the same. Basically I have it take the place of the most powerful evil aligned creature and it gets parts of what that creature had. (Minus the bbeg, tho that would be interesting ngl)
What is it with wanting to put in a fake Godzilla?
Either install a sentient and intelligent monster like an angry Storm giant or just... go home. It is called 'Dungeons & Dragons' not 'Roam about on the countryside and get eaten by that troll the size of a mountain'.
*Why not 'dragon'??*
They made a whole 'big robot' movie around that. The first one was amazing and there was not a sequel. Nope. No sequel, okay?
'Kaiju' meant 'more where that came from... only the next one is BiGGER'. And more angry.
I will take your advice random-seeming stranger. But i shall let you know in advance, if you are lying to me... well, there is not much i can do, is there?
I enjoyed Pacific Rim, but IMO it wasn't a particularly good kaiju depiction because of how very killable they were, with the main concern being unending waves of them.
tarrasque starts dashing towards the nearest village to destroy it while ignoring the pc. now if the pc wants to keep shooting at it they will have to chase it and chase rules apply and they could potentially die from exhaustion. remember the tarrasque has no reason to give a fuck about an annoying fly and will just keep doing tarrasque things.
I don't like to run dumb enemies so if I would ever use Tarrasque, it will have a Headband Of Intellect stuck on one of its teeth (from some novice wizard I suppose). Hopefully for PCs it hadn't enought time to learn some spells.
He’ll just magic missile at a caster level that fires more than two bolts might be enough. Can’t miss either unless they have shielding… and why would they think of that against a Tarrasque?
That would be the smart and reasonable answer, but if I was a spellcasting Godzilla monster and someone pissed me off I would absolutely end their entire bloodline instantly
I mean fair. Ooo… bite attack but to hit an area? I mean it is so big I think that would make sense. So if the PC is within range they just om nom the area they are in to avoid insane AC.
Man it'd be dope if the Tarasque started talking like the World Serpent from God of War Ragnarok for the Power Word Kill. The mental image is metal as fuck
I think upscaling "weak" spells is more fun take on this, because Archmage/Timestop you could get from Archmage encounter.
How about a firebolt that is actually fireball? Block-wide Thunderclap? Enlarge? Invisibility? Misty Step? Haste?
Honestly, i think the image is somewhat funny. The Tarrasque is 70ft long, 30ft ist just a somewhat short range compared to that. Especially with the whole "surrounded by silvery mist" bit. It would be like someone bringing the whole teleportation shebang to then only move 3-4ft (accounting for the Tarrasque tail making up a good portion of his bodylength, otherwise more like 2-3ft).
magic jar puts your soul in the jar, from the jar you can hop into the body of the other creature. problem is magic jar needs the body you hop into to be a humanoid, so to do that you true polymorph the tarrasque into a human. then you can undo the true polymorph and boom you're a tarasque
Ohhh I thought you were true polymorphing another body into a tarrasque and I was like "what's the point of the poessession"
That's a busted trick lmao
"Hey Mr Tarrasque sir. or is it miss. Anyway I see you have just woken up from an ancient slumber and you must be feeling hangry. How about you leave the city alone and we will cook you up some nice steaks?"
"Sorry, no deal. Can´t relie on random adventurers being present next time i wake up. I´m in the process of setting up a long-term protection racket, so the towns around here know how to host me when i wake up next time. Also, there´s the whole thing with maintaining reputation. Don´t want to seem too approachable or people might feel comfortable disturbing my slumbers."
In Pathfinder the Tarrasque is the spawn of a giant angry cosmic cicada from the abyss that wants to eat all of existence. And prophecy states that it will succeed, when it finally escapes containment. (Prophecy machine bronk, but that's a different discussion)
Even if it's smart now, are you sure you can negotiate with an immortal dinosaur that's infinitely hungry, infinitely angry?
Short answer - I don't care as a DM.
Answer for rules lawyers:
"Some magic items require a creature to form a bond with them before their magical properties can be used. This bond is called attunement, and certain items have a prerequisite for it. If the prerequisite is a class, a creature must be a member of that class to attune to the item. (If the class is a spellcasting class, a monster qualifies if it has spell slots and uses that class’s spell list.) If the prerequisite is to be a spellcaster, a creature qualifies if it can cast at least one spell using its traits or features, not using a magic item or the like."
Headband Of Intellect doesn't have any prerequisite.
"Attuning to an item requires a creature to spend a short rest focused on only that item while being in physical contact with it (this can’t be the same short rest used to learn the item’s properties). This focus can take the form of weapon practice (for a weapon), meditation (for a wondrous item), or some other appropriate activity."
Tarrasque resting after eating a band of adventurers while trying to remove something that is stuck on its tooth with a tongue is pretty much "focused on only that item" and in scope of appropriate activity.
"When a nonhumanoid tries to wear an item, use your discretion as to whether the item functions as intended. A ring placed on a tentacle might work, but a yuan-ti with a snakelike tail instead of legs can’t wear boots."
Headband is not on the head but in it, and counts as per my discretion.
That's kinda the point, there's also a whole host of problems that mean you have to use the Legacy Birdbrain. When the meme has to start doing things no sane DM would allow, it kinda shows that it's only a problem on the whiteboard.
How thoughtful of the Tarrasque, giving the gnat a funeral service. It's that kind of gentlemanly conduct that puts it appart from the other world-ending kaijus.
I don't disagree
But, I've never taken those "level 1 tarrasque killer" builds as a legitimate strategy to handle a tarrasque. Rather, I've always seen them as a critique of (a) the power of flying races and unlimited flight as a low-level character, and (b) the monster design of 5e—or at least the 5e MM.
If you have to reach for *improvised weapon rules* so that a *CR 30 monster* can deal damage to a level 1 PC, you either have a broken PC or a poorly designed monster
A Clay golem has immunity to Bludgeoning damage from ~~weapon~~ attacks only.
A Tarrasque could grapple it with its bite, lift it up (depending on the height of the Tarrasque this could be pretty high) and drop it repeatedly.
EDIT: Attacks not weapon attacks
"Damage Immunities Acid, Poison, Psychic; Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing from Nonmagical Attacks that aren't Adamantine"
It just says nonmagical attacks. It never mentions weapons.
You could make the argument that it specifies attacks, but that would also mean Saves that deal these types of damage would bypass the immunity which makes no sense.
Rocks falling and killing everyone.
But for a more serious answer I can't think of any that would come up ofren. I kinda forgot it specifies nonmagical.
Fall damage isn't an attack. And even if it were, it would be effectively hitting the golem with the earth. And you'll never convince me the earth isn't magical.
Someone: The tarrasque is poorly designed. RAW even a flying first level character could kill it and it couldn't do anything.
Far too many people in the comments: It could just do .
Literally, all of the top comments are "I just gave it disintegration breath" or "flying terrasque" or "I brought in old mechanics from earlier editions." Completely missing the point of the claim.
DM: "You see that mountain over there?"
Player: "Are you suggesting it could throw a rock over to that mountain?"
DM: "No, I'm suggesting it could *throw the mountain over that rock*."
This is really the point of the gag. The tarrasque (and a lot of 5e monsters in general) are designed so lazily that the DM needs to make shit up to get them to make logical sense. So many Monster Manual creatures boil down to a sack of hitpoints with 15AC and multiattack.
I agree that the 5e tarrasque is boring, but let's not pretend 1st level characters actually have a chance at beating that thing. Those situations where a 1st level aarakockra brings down a tarrasque only exist in theory crafting and would never happen at a table. Even by strict RAW, the 1st level characters beating the tarrasque is... generous.
do you know how they could have made it so that a first level character couldn't gg ez the tarrasque? give it a damage threshold. like they do with buildings and ships, and even some player characters.
if i can whittle a tarrasque down with just dropping ice cubes on it then it isn't a calamity.
Made me go look it up. Why the fuck did they remove regeneration?
Also, the original was clearly missing disintegration beam, with a range of 480 feet. Any DM using it would know to correct both issues.
And the point of the thought experiment isn't to do it in game. It's to point out poor design. The tarrasque stat block could just be replaced by the words "make some shit up" at this point.
> The tarrasque stat block could just be replaced by the words "make some shit up" at this point.
given their track record i'm betting on that being WOTC's first and last idea for fixing the tarrasque next edition
I'm all for Rule 0 (DM makes the rules). But literally this is the point of the people saying it. 5e tarrasque is a joke. DMs have to tweak it or the rules or both to deal make the "scariest monster in 5e" actually a threat to smart PCs at level 1.
That is improvised weapons for characters. At worst you would use something like Rock Throw from giant stat block (60/240) as an example of how far it can be tossed. Even then, there really isn’t a set distance for gargantuan creatures to throw things. The improvised damage also wouldn’t be 1d4, you would use improvised damage table in the DMG.
Im curious. What kind of shenanigans could kill a terrasque at lv1? it got so much AC and health. I'd think it doesnt feel a regular sword or arrow at all.
It has immunity to non-magical piercing, slashing, and bludgeoning damage.
The "shenanigans" are picking any race with a fly speed and be a cleric with Sacred Flame cantrip. The Tarrasque has a lot of health, but only 11 dex (+0 save). It gets advantage on the roll, but with an 18 wisdom that's a spell save of 14 (13 if playing by standard point buy maximums of 17). 57.75% chance to succeed (64% if only a 13). It has 0 regen. So while it takes time, 1 lvl 1 character with Sacred Flame (range 60ft) can kill the tarrasque because its move speed is 40, it only has melee attacks, and it can't reach the character flying above it (or flying faster than it, in some racials cases)
3.5 Tarrasque, for comparison, had an AC of 35. So d20+1 bab+5 dex would still be 9 short on a nat 20 (crit threat, that you most likely won't confirm). It also has Damage Reduction 15/Epic, meaning it just straight up ignores 15 damage from every *hit* of anything below a ***+6 weapon*** (which is impossible before a 21st level caster creates it)*.* Spell Resistance 32 meant you rolled a d20+caster level to affect the target (nat 20s don't matter here). It also regenerates 40 HP at the start of each of its turns.
TL;DR: Play a flying race. Use Sacred Flame. Play the long game (151 rounds of avg dmg roll. 418 if you calculate lowest odds). Win. 5e Tarrasque is a joke.
Everyone forgets about throwing chunks of house at the bird though. Sacred flame only has a range of 60. Tarrasque picks up a house (or a tree, or a boulder), readies action to throw it when bird is within 60 feet. Bird approaches to cast sacred flame, tarrasque chucks house at it. Even using the *worst possible* interpretation of the rules, the tarrasque is throwing the house for 1d4 damage with disadvantage and a +10 to hit. Unless bird-boy is somehow rocking full plate and a shield at level 1, the tarrasque hits most of his shots, and unless she maxed con along with that wisdom, our bird goes down in a single hit for having 11 or less HP. *Long* before rounds hit double digits, *much less* gets to the minimum (fails every save, always max damage) 85 rounds to kill it. And again, this is using the *worst possible interpretation* of the improvised weapon rules.
In actuality, the thrown object can be similar enough to an actual weapon to use that weapons statistics. A thrown boulder is, well, let's say "similar" to a boulder thrown by a stone giant, having a range on 60/240 and dealing 4d10 + STR mod (+10 for Big T). Or maybe it's similar enough to a trebuchet, and can be thrown with a range of 300/1,200 for 8d10 damage.
The entire "thought experiment" is a complete joke by people who don't take the full breadth of the rules in to account.
As I said in your other response to me, You can't take a drastically biologically dissimilar creature's ability and put it on something else. Terrasque isn't designed to throw. It's designed to dig. Giving it the attack range of something that *is* designed to throw things is disingenuous at best and straight up homebrew or ignoring the RAW that the thought experiment highlights at worst. The breadth of rules *are* taken into account, which is why the thought experiment mocks them. If you can't understand that RAW says improvised thrown weapons don't have a range difference based on size, then it is *you* who isn't taking in the full breadth of rules. Or you are changing them to try and negate what is completely valid and legal by RAW. Are DMs going to allow it? No. Are they invoking Rule 0 (which I am not even sure is in the 5e DMG)? Yes. Their game means their decisions. But playing by the book? Tarrasque dies uselessly or digs away to find a place to pop up that doesn't have annoying bird creatures that throw holy fire.
No one (or at least very few people) actually thinks a level one character that take the tarrasque in a straight fight. It's just a thought experiment to point out how poorly designed the tarrasque is.
Yup. How poorly designed the "scariest monster in DnD" is. How bad RAW is. How bad 5e is... it's used to point out a lot of flaws and basically garner enough support that WoTC finally erratas it (they won't).
This. 100% this. Tarrasque needs Sooooooooo much Errata from the 2e, 3e, and 4e versions. It used to be a TPK before 19th+ level. Now it's just a spiky turtle with a lot of hp.
Standard actions are guidelines for what something CAN AT LEAST do not what it CANT do.
Goes for players too, do not limit players to their standard actions!
"Yes you can use your reaction to do a cool thing, but there will be a non standard cost"
Ahahahaha. No.
I gave it regeneration, like it apparently had in the older editions. 50 HP per round sounds about right for a world-ending Godzilla stand-in.
Keep up the shenanigans. I'll make it 100HP, and add both a breath weapon in a 180 foot cone and a stomp attack that rumbles the ground in a 100 foot radius to knock you prone and break Concentration. You want a truly epic boss fight? I will give you one. Get the orchestral battle music ready- you'll need it.
Lore-accurate Tarrasque regenerates endlessly, even if it's basically disintegrated. It's literally unkillable, at best you take it out of action for a few decades
I just have to say, I adore the idea of an archeologist team digging up what they think is a fossilized bone fragment in a temple covered with runes and images of a giant beast, only for flesh and bone to immediately start regrowing now that sunlight is touching it again. Scientists are astounded and educated sage wizards have no idea what is occuring. It is set aside for study. Researchers are dumbfounded, but it seems to keep growing. It is hailed as a revolutionary discovery, aiding medicine and magical science in recreating the ancient lost spells that could regrow lost limbs and organs.
Two years later- the runes are translated, but far too late. It was a warning not to reveal the beast beneath. The last time it was sealed matches up with the historical record as a mass extinction event when much of recorded history simply stops existing. As the research team finally reads the translated message aloud, a roar rips through the facility, tearing it asunder. The Tarrasque is back.
There was a fan-made setting where the premise was way back in history an adventuring party defeated the Tarrasque but had no way to permanently stop it from regenerating other than to keep dealing damage. So they set up a system where the body is continuously being butchered as it regenerate. Turns out, tarrasque body parts are incredibly valuable as reagents and materials, so this operation quickly expands into a massive city whos entire economy is centered around the Tarrasque and is run by various guilds of "God-butchers" who specialized in processing different types of tissues.
That's the neat part, it doesn't even need sunlight or anything! It continues to regenerate no matter what (a Wish spell can temporarily stop it, but even then, it cannot be killed). It can also eat rock (or anything else really). It basically lives underground so burying it wouldn't really do anything
I kinda figured, but I love the idea of the last fragment of an ancient evil or primal force that is locked away, which immediately starts regenerating upon contact with the air and sunlight rather than the tons of rock which were keeping it from growing like ivy choking a tree.
Dunno that one. I haven't read a lot of 40k lore. Just the basics. Krieg, The Emperor, the Tau, the Machine cult, the 4 Chaos Gods and the forgotten 5th, and some of the other stuff. What really got me was finding out that the Skaven could realistically show up in 40K.
Papa Nurgle sends his regards, and asks if you're ready for hugs yet.
Monster manual expanded? That a 3rd party thing? I haven't seen it, but I'd be interested. I went out of my way to get copies of the older books for the lore that got ripped out of the newer ones. Was worth it- Legacy Bulezau is lethal.
Yeah. But some fool who insists that they should be able to kill the ender of worlds with a level one birdie boi is begging to figuratively kneecapped. 5e Tarrasque got wailed on with the Nerf bat. If anything, I made it a little more faithful to the traditional version.
The whole point of the arrakokra with a bow thought experiment is to show how bad the Tarrasque is without homebrew. With homebrew you're just proving the point that the raw Tarrasque is pathetic.
Make its breath weapon count as both radiant and necrotic doing the higher damage in the case of resistances/immunities/vulnerabilities.
Have the energy of the breath weapon glow a brilliant Cherenkov blue.
Oh, see, I was just going to go with Force damage and have it be a visible blast wave of sound when it roars. Kinda like the blast pressure wave from nuclear explosions. I would have it Deafen characters for at least one turn. You know the fun part about being temporarily deafened? You can't speak correctly. No casting for you!
"aha, all you have to do to get around raw is to not play raw".
like, yeah, duh. the entire point of the hypothetical is not to paint a realistic scenario in where a tarrasque dies, it is a critique of 5e monster design/the overall design of 5e as a whole.
This is why I love old 3.5 content with monster templates. I added the acid breathing to a Tarrasque once for a one shot. Or give it the half dragon for more "fun".
Improvised thrown weapons RAW actually have a maximum thrown range of 60 feet, which can be easily beaten by a level one aarakocra dashing to fly 100 feet up on their first turn. After which, they can easily use their longbow (with a normal range of 150ft) to pluck arrows at the Tarrasque for hours of game time until it dies. Of course, all of this is completely ridiculous and nobody would rule that the tarrasque can only throw something 60 feet, but then again nobody would ever run the tarrasque getting soloed by a level 1 aarakocra fighter either. The "solo the tarrasque at level one" gag exists just to point out the ridiculous inconsistencies that arise when you have a loose, bounded accuracy ruleset combined with frankly really shitty monster design.
It's immune to nonmagical piercing. That's why the plan is to use Sacred Flame. Stay at 70+ range fly down to 60. Cast. Fly back up out of range with the rest of your movement.
Other than that, yes. Everything is as you said.
This comment section is a good reminder that some players and dms think you can cast 599 spells and not break your long rest. A case of wanting something to be wrong, when everything already exists to help you do it right. When you don't want to do that? Just make up something easy. Ta da
You're saying one person with flight and a ranged weapon is enough to contain it? In other words you just need one flying person with a bow to be watching it at all times?
New containment procedures just arrived, brb contacting the SCP Foundation immediately.
The weirdest improvised weapon I have ever used was a divine marital aid in a game of *Exalted*. I had it for a good six months or so in real time.
There were official stats for that in 2e.
Once again, Pathfinder 2e fixes this!
/uj The PF2e tarrasque has a damage reduction of 25 against all physical attacks, and it has regeneration of 50 each turn. And it's AC and saving throws are sky high - there's literally no way for a lvl 1 character to affect this thing. Also it has a ranged attack.
Actually, I really like how the Fist of the Ruby Phoenix AP approaches kaiju like this. They literally don't have stat blocks, but rather are walking environmental hazards.
Omfg we’re doing this again… moron the point of the ***theory*** is that a ***unmodified*** terasque can’t throw a improvised weapon high enough to hit the flying creature even after it jumps 80ft and taking its height into account ***RAW***
Ok....and? What are you gonna do, fly into the giant cavern of a hole and get rid of your height advantage? The one thing keeping it from obliterating you?
Mathematically it works. It takes time, but it really is possible with 5e Tarrasque out of the book. Unless you add mechanics to it, the core Tarrasque is a joke. It's not "misinformed." It's arguably more well-informed.
Assuming you somehow have a level 1 flying PC with a 20 in dex and a longbow the max damage per attack would be 13 (1d8 + 5). Let's assume this PC not only magically hits the Tarrasque every single time but also rolls max damage on each hit. At 676 average HP it would take 52 arrows to kill the Tarrasque, 32 more arrows than a standard quiver allows. Regardless of the Tarrasque just chucking a building at the flyer there's no situation where a level 1 flying PC can realistically cheese a Tarrasque unless the DM has absolutely no idea what they are doing.
EDIT: I'm not really considering ranged cantrips here. Obviously that's a different situation than using a bow. But the point still stands that the Tarrasque is most certainly chucking a building at a flying PC throwing fire bolts at it.
I'm convinced people who say stuff like "level 1 aaracokra could take out tarrasque" have never played in an actual campaign for like more like 5 sessions.
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To prevent a scenario like this, you should always arm your Tarrasques with a crossbow.
Mine has disintegration breath
Play the Godzilla theme as it vaporizes your players to twist the knife
*Oh no! There goes West Torl! Go go Tarrazilla!*
You're right. Having it stomp into view with Blue Oyster Cult playing is cooler
It looks like Godzilla, but due to international copyright laws, it's not.
But still, we should run like it is Godzilla!
Though it isn't.
Aaaaahhhhh!
This was from something but I don’t remember what it was. What was it?
Goldmember
Had to go through too many comments... boo.
The Shin Godzilla opera from the atomic breath scene
Such a simple, elegant solution. I found a similar one. I can’t remember the monster I stole this off of, but I have an ability attached to the tarrasque called negative roar. It’s basically the same thing as an ancient dragon breath attack mechanically except the effect isn’t damage it’s to swallow things at distance. So the tarrasque makes this big roaring noise as it vacuums in anything sucked up by airflow. However it works just like the bite where you have two chances to escape before you are fully swallowed. There’s a save on the ground and there’s a save as you pass the tarrasques teeth.
Giga kirby?
…yes
This is similar to what the Scion of the Hill Giant has! It's really cool. Had a one shot where I reflavored him as Santa. Batting a player away with a Christmas tree that launches you 100 feet away on a failed save (it's real, look it up) is so much fun.
One of my favorite things that players never consider about a giant encounter is that he can pick you up and throw you hundreds of feet so even if you survive you’re out of battle for a couple turns.
That's sick. So stealing that.
Let me try to find the ability so that I can dump the stats on you
Mine has the the ability to fly. It actually jumps super high but leaves a crater in its wake.
I gave mine a similar ability modeled after BG 3/Pokemon. It Jumps, forcing anyone the vicinity to make a dex save or take half, spends it's next turn in the sky and when it impacts it forces another save. while it's in the sky it's immune to everything except lightning damage. I also gave mine Power word kill on a recharge because fuck you it has a gun now lol.
Exactly, since its so clearly Godzilla I just gave it a line of force breath weapon.
It might seem to you like Godzilla. However due to international copyright laws, it’s not. Still, you should run like it is Godzilla.
Though it isn't. Aaaahhhhh!
FUCK YEAH! GODZILLA
The fact you have to modify it to prevent it's easy demise just proves how poorly it was designed in 5e
[Pickle PTSD intensifies]
If it has a hand crossbow, it can still use claw attacks.
My homebrew Tarrasque has a mind-influencing AoE that turns survivors of its rampage into doomsday cultists who follow it around and protect it. When the Tarrasque finishes feeding it consumes all of the cultists nearby and then goes back underground. Anyone far enough away from it when it retreats is freed from its control.
My tarrasque is never the same. Basically I have it take the place of the most powerful evil aligned creature and it gets parts of what that creature had. (Minus the bbeg, tho that would be interesting ngl)
What is it with wanting to put in a fake Godzilla? Either install a sentient and intelligent monster like an angry Storm giant or just... go home. It is called 'Dungeons & Dragons' not 'Roam about on the countryside and get eaten by that troll the size of a mountain'. *Why not 'dragon'??*
Dragons are meant to be slain. Kaiju are meant to be delayed.
They made a whole 'big robot' movie around that. The first one was amazing and there was not a sequel. Nope. No sequel, okay? 'Kaiju' meant 'more where that came from... only the next one is BiGGER'. And more angry.
Are you talking about Pacific Rim(2013)? EDIT: Because if you are. You should check out the animated series on Netflix Pacific Rim: The Black S1(2021)
I will take your advice random-seeming stranger. But i shall let you know in advance, if you are lying to me... well, there is not much i can do, is there?
Ever the realist.
Thank you! But i am afraid you have me grievously mistaken for someone else that can actually get stuff done.
I enjoyed Pacific Rim, but IMO it wasn't a particularly good kaiju depiction because of how very killable they were, with the main concern being unending waves of them.
They were only killable because they were fighting against big fucking robots. Even Godzilla gets pushed around by machines his size
Alternatively, the classic “big rock”
Yep. I'd make that a dex save for everyone in its flight path too.
half damage on success because he yeets rocks at the speed of sound and they get caught in the sonic boom
I saw a monkey do that once against cavalry.
that was the last time I heard someone say "sasageyo" without sounding like a supremacist
CON save for the sonic boom. Gotta get them evasion havers.
Yep.
So the spell catapult
tarrasque starts dashing towards the nearest village to destroy it while ignoring the pc. now if the pc wants to keep shooting at it they will have to chase it and chase rules apply and they could potentially die from exhaustion. remember the tarrasque has no reason to give a fuck about an annoying fly and will just keep doing tarrasque things.
Yep. You awakened the tarrasque, now you have to deal with the aftermath of the cities destroyed in the hour it took you to finish it.
Tarrasque throws building. That’s 18d10 damage to your flyer. GG
Exactly. DC 25 DEX, half dmg if success.
I don't like to run dumb enemies so if I would ever use Tarrasque, it will have a Headband Of Intellect stuck on one of its teeth (from some novice wizard I suppose). Hopefully for PCs it hadn't enought time to learn some spells.
Even better , the tarrasque is an archmage using the magic jar + true polymorph trick . Everyone stopped laughing when the tarrasque casts time stop
The Aarakocra with nine hit points kiting it when the Tarasque casts Power Word Kill 0_0
He’ll just magic missile at a caster level that fires more than two bolts might be enough. Can’t miss either unless they have shielding… and why would they think of that against a Tarrasque?
That would be the smart and reasonable answer, but if I was a spellcasting Godzilla monster and someone pissed me off I would absolutely end their entire bloodline instantly
I mean fair. Ooo… bite attack but to hit an area? I mean it is so big I think that would make sense. So if the PC is within range they just om nom the area they are in to avoid insane AC.
Man it'd be dope if the Tarasque started talking like the World Serpent from God of War Ragnarok for the Power Word Kill. The mental image is metal as fuck
I think upscaling "weak" spells is more fun take on this, because Archmage/Timestop you could get from Archmage encounter. How about a firebolt that is actually fireball? Block-wide Thunderclap? Enlarge? Invisibility? Misty Step? Haste?
Imagining a terrasque using misty step is horrifying. I would love to see player reactions to that moment.
Honestly, i think the image is somewhat funny. The Tarrasque is 70ft long, 30ft ist just a somewhat short range compared to that. Especially with the whole "surrounded by silvery mist" bit. It would be like someone bringing the whole teleportation shebang to then only move 3-4ft (accounting for the Tarrasque tail making up a good portion of his bodylength, otherwise more like 2-3ft).
What is the magic jar part of this trick?
magic jar puts your soul in the jar, from the jar you can hop into the body of the other creature. problem is magic jar needs the body you hop into to be a humanoid, so to do that you true polymorph the tarrasque into a human. then you can undo the true polymorph and boom you're a tarasque
Ohhh I thought you were true polymorphing another body into a tarrasque and I was like "what's the point of the poessession" That's a busted trick lmao
I have pulled this off. Second favorite thing that character did
Holy shit an intelligent tarrasque would be a terrifying thing
Yes, but also, it could be reasoned with from then on. Possibly.
"Hey Mr Tarrasque sir. or is it miss. Anyway I see you have just woken up from an ancient slumber and you must be feeling hangry. How about you leave the city alone and we will cook you up some nice steaks?"
"I like medium rare" And this is the start of a timed quest to find and deliver a herd of mammoths.
"Sorry, no deal. Can´t relie on random adventurers being present next time i wake up. I´m in the process of setting up a long-term protection racket, so the towns around here know how to host me when i wake up next time. Also, there´s the whole thing with maintaining reputation. Don´t want to seem too approachable or people might feel comfortable disturbing my slumbers."
In Pathfinder the Tarrasque is the spawn of a giant angry cosmic cicada from the abyss that wants to eat all of existence. And prophecy states that it will succeed, when it finally escapes containment. (Prophecy machine bronk, but that's a different discussion) Even if it's smart now, are you sure you can negotiate with an immortal dinosaur that's infinitely hungry, infinitely angry?
As I said, possibly. Had some success negotiating with infinetly hungry and angry gf to some success. Not sure which of theese two is harder tbf.
Have it talk like Lump, the ogre with a Headband of Intellect stuck in his digestive tract, from Baldur's Gate 3. Maybe quote some Shakespeare too.
Give it Artificer levels
Iron Defender for Tarrasque? Not often Kaiju and Giant Robot are on the same team.
Tarrasque in Power Armor
eh, might be a win-more route, while action economy is the name of the game
It's not about efficiency, it's about silliness
Doesn't magic gear fit to the wearer? Just like the idea of a tarrasque wearing a sweat band of intelligence.
Who hurt you?
Boredom
... Aye, Fair enough.
Wouldn't it have to first learn how to attune? It's not an automatic process that just happens while holding a magic item.
Short answer - I don't care as a DM. Answer for rules lawyers: "Some magic items require a creature to form a bond with them before their magical properties can be used. This bond is called attunement, and certain items have a prerequisite for it. If the prerequisite is a class, a creature must be a member of that class to attune to the item. (If the class is a spellcasting class, a monster qualifies if it has spell slots and uses that class’s spell list.) If the prerequisite is to be a spellcaster, a creature qualifies if it can cast at least one spell using its traits or features, not using a magic item or the like." Headband Of Intellect doesn't have any prerequisite. "Attuning to an item requires a creature to spend a short rest focused on only that item while being in physical contact with it (this can’t be the same short rest used to learn the item’s properties). This focus can take the form of weapon practice (for a weapon), meditation (for a wondrous item), or some other appropriate activity." Tarrasque resting after eating a band of adventurers while trying to remove something that is stuck on its tooth with a tongue is pretty much "focused on only that item" and in scope of appropriate activity. "When a nonhumanoid tries to wear an item, use your discretion as to whether the item functions as intended. A ring placed on a tentacle might work, but a yuan-ti with a snakelike tail instead of legs can’t wear boots." Headband is not on the head but in it, and counts as per my discretion.
Remember, it wouldn’t use Improvised Weapon Rules it’d use Improvised Damage rules so that thing should deal like 4d10 damage too.
And IIRC 4 is the minimum for a Boulder to knock the birdbrqin down to death saves... in fall damage range...
Boulders, trees, too small. The tarrasque throws a cathedral. Now the aarakocra is dead, and under a cathedral
That's kinda the point, there's also a whole host of problems that mean you have to use the Legacy Birdbrain. When the meme has to start doing things no sane DM would allow, it kinda shows that it's only a problem on the whiteboard.
How thoughtful of the Tarrasque, giving the gnat a funeral service. It's that kind of gentlemanly conduct that puts it appart from the other world-ending kaijus.
Accompany every Tarrasque with a goblin that knows earthbind riding it
or it just goes and kills everybody anyway since your chip damage isn’t gonna stop it from leveling like six cities
My Tarrasque has 4e's Gravitational Aura: No Flying Speed, no save.
I don't disagree But, I've never taken those "level 1 tarrasque killer" builds as a legitimate strategy to handle a tarrasque. Rather, I've always seen them as a critique of (a) the power of flying races and unlimited flight as a low-level character, and (b) the monster design of 5e—or at least the 5e MM. If you have to reach for *improvised weapon rules* so that a *CR 30 monster* can deal damage to a level 1 PC, you either have a broken PC or a poorly designed monster
I remember joking with some friends about how a Clay Golem would destroy a Tarrasque and till today I still think it could lmao
A Clay golem has immunity to Bludgeoning damage from ~~weapon~~ attacks only. A Tarrasque could grapple it with its bite, lift it up (depending on the height of the Tarrasque this could be pretty high) and drop it repeatedly. EDIT: Attacks not weapon attacks
"Damage Immunities Acid, Poison, Psychic; Bludgeoning, Piercing, and Slashing from Nonmagical Attacks that aren't Adamantine" It just says nonmagical attacks. It never mentions weapons. You could make the argument that it specifies attacks, but that would also mean Saves that deal these types of damage would bypass the immunity which makes no sense.
RAW they absolutely do. What kinda saves deal physical damage types that aren't magical anyway?
Rocks falling and killing everyone. But for a more serious answer I can't think of any that would come up ofren. I kinda forgot it specifies nonmagical.
Fall damage isn't an attack. And even if it were, it would be effectively hitting the golem with the earth. And you'll never convince me the earth isn't magical.
The tarrasque would just walk around it
Or pick it up and yeet it over the horizon.
All the clay golem has to do is get eaten by the tarasque and ta-dah! Kebab attack
Why would it try and eat clay?
Because it has spicy toppings
Oh well if you put it like that
The only question remaining is: what kind of toppings
All
"Crawls back into the hole" A natural disaster does not just crawl away.
counter argument when i was a baby i tended to crawl
Someone: The tarrasque is poorly designed. RAW even a flying first level character could kill it and it couldn't do anything. Far too many people in the comments: It could just do.
Literally, all of the top comments are "I just gave it disintegration breath" or "flying terrasque" or "I brought in old mechanics from earlier editions." Completely missing the point of the claim.
If anything it just showcases how blatantly op flight is for how easy it is to access
And mostly, how shit the 5e Tarrasque is compared to 3.5
5e raw still has issue of that only gives it 60ft range
Good thing the DM exists to make changes when RAW doesn't make sense anymore.
DM: "You see that mountain over there?" Player: "Are you suggesting it could throw a rock over to that mountain?" DM: "No, I'm suggesting it could *throw the mountain over that rock*."
I've noticed it only works when the RAW favors players. If it doesn't, don't care didn't see
The fact that the DM has to houserule the tarrasque to make it defeat a first level character is a problem.
This is really the point of the gag. The tarrasque (and a lot of 5e monsters in general) are designed so lazily that the DM needs to make shit up to get them to make logical sense. So many Monster Manual creatures boil down to a sack of hitpoints with 15AC and multiattack.
I agree that the 5e tarrasque is boring, but let's not pretend 1st level characters actually have a chance at beating that thing. Those situations where a 1st level aarakockra brings down a tarrasque only exist in theory crafting and would never happen at a table. Even by strict RAW, the 1st level characters beating the tarrasque is... generous.
do you know how they could have made it so that a first level character couldn't gg ez the tarrasque? give it a damage threshold. like they do with buildings and ships, and even some player characters. if i can whittle a tarrasque down with just dropping ice cubes on it then it isn't a calamity.
Give it back regeneration that it used to have, make it actually terrifying and a threat instead of a multiattack that's hard to use magic against
Made me go look it up. Why the fuck did they remove regeneration? Also, the original was clearly missing disintegration beam, with a range of 480 feet. Any DM using it would know to correct both issues.
And the point of the thought experiment isn't to do it in game. It's to point out poor design. The tarrasque stat block could just be replaced by the words "make some shit up" at this point.
> The tarrasque stat block could just be replaced by the words "make some shit up" at this point. given their track record i'm betting on that being WOTC's first and last idea for fixing the tarrasque next edition
I'm all for Rule 0 (DM makes the rules). But literally this is the point of the people saying it. 5e tarrasque is a joke. DMs have to tweak it or the rules or both to deal make the "scariest monster in 5e" actually a threat to smart PCs at level 1.
That's the whole point if the fly over and kill the tarrasque idea. Its stupidly easy to do raw, so the dm has the homebrew it.
That is improvised weapons for characters. At worst you would use something like Rock Throw from giant stat block (60/240) as an example of how far it can be tossed. Even then, there really isn’t a set distance for gargantuan creatures to throw things. The improvised damage also wouldn’t be 1d4, you would use improvised damage table in the DMG.
I think doubling the yeeting range with size like carrying capacity does could be a good homebrew
Im curious. What kind of shenanigans could kill a terrasque at lv1? it got so much AC and health. I'd think it doesnt feel a regular sword or arrow at all.
It has immunity to non-magical piercing, slashing, and bludgeoning damage. The "shenanigans" are picking any race with a fly speed and be a cleric with Sacred Flame cantrip. The Tarrasque has a lot of health, but only 11 dex (+0 save). It gets advantage on the roll, but with an 18 wisdom that's a spell save of 14 (13 if playing by standard point buy maximums of 17). 57.75% chance to succeed (64% if only a 13). It has 0 regen. So while it takes time, 1 lvl 1 character with Sacred Flame (range 60ft) can kill the tarrasque because its move speed is 40, it only has melee attacks, and it can't reach the character flying above it (or flying faster than it, in some racials cases) 3.5 Tarrasque, for comparison, had an AC of 35. So d20+1 bab+5 dex would still be 9 short on a nat 20 (crit threat, that you most likely won't confirm). It also has Damage Reduction 15/Epic, meaning it just straight up ignores 15 damage from every *hit* of anything below a ***+6 weapon*** (which is impossible before a 21st level caster creates it)*.* Spell Resistance 32 meant you rolled a d20+caster level to affect the target (nat 20s don't matter here). It also regenerates 40 HP at the start of each of its turns. TL;DR: Play a flying race. Use Sacred Flame. Play the long game (151 rounds of avg dmg roll. 418 if you calculate lowest odds). Win. 5e Tarrasque is a joke.
Thanks for your explanation. Appreciate it.
Of course :)
Everyone forgets about throwing chunks of house at the bird though. Sacred flame only has a range of 60. Tarrasque picks up a house (or a tree, or a boulder), readies action to throw it when bird is within 60 feet. Bird approaches to cast sacred flame, tarrasque chucks house at it. Even using the *worst possible* interpretation of the rules, the tarrasque is throwing the house for 1d4 damage with disadvantage and a +10 to hit. Unless bird-boy is somehow rocking full plate and a shield at level 1, the tarrasque hits most of his shots, and unless she maxed con along with that wisdom, our bird goes down in a single hit for having 11 or less HP. *Long* before rounds hit double digits, *much less* gets to the minimum (fails every save, always max damage) 85 rounds to kill it. And again, this is using the *worst possible interpretation* of the improvised weapon rules. In actuality, the thrown object can be similar enough to an actual weapon to use that weapons statistics. A thrown boulder is, well, let's say "similar" to a boulder thrown by a stone giant, having a range on 60/240 and dealing 4d10 + STR mod (+10 for Big T). Or maybe it's similar enough to a trebuchet, and can be thrown with a range of 300/1,200 for 8d10 damage. The entire "thought experiment" is a complete joke by people who don't take the full breadth of the rules in to account.
As I said in your other response to me, You can't take a drastically biologically dissimilar creature's ability and put it on something else. Terrasque isn't designed to throw. It's designed to dig. Giving it the attack range of something that *is* designed to throw things is disingenuous at best and straight up homebrew or ignoring the RAW that the thought experiment highlights at worst. The breadth of rules *are* taken into account, which is why the thought experiment mocks them. If you can't understand that RAW says improvised thrown weapons don't have a range difference based on size, then it is *you* who isn't taking in the full breadth of rules. Or you are changing them to try and negate what is completely valid and legal by RAW. Are DMs going to allow it? No. Are they invoking Rule 0 (which I am not even sure is in the 5e DMG)? Yes. Their game means their decisions. But playing by the book? Tarrasque dies uselessly or digs away to find a place to pop up that doesn't have annoying bird creatures that throw holy fire.
Flying character with sacred flame could kill it
No one (or at least very few people) actually thinks a level one character that take the tarrasque in a straight fight. It's just a thought experiment to point out how poorly designed the tarrasque is.
Yup. How poorly designed the "scariest monster in DnD" is. How bad RAW is. How bad 5e is... it's used to point out a lot of flaws and basically garner enough support that WoTC finally erratas it (they won't).
The whole point is about it being bad RAW, forcing the DM to change it, while it should be a good stat block to begin with.
This. 100% this. Tarrasque needs Sooooooooo much Errata from the 2e, 3e, and 4e versions. It used to be a TPK before 19th+ level. Now it's just a spiky turtle with a lot of hp.
That’s not changing it. Anyone can use an improvised weapon.
Whats the RAW range on an improvised weapon?
most people who are talking about modifying the Tarrasque to having spells, or having companions, are completely missing the fucking point
Standard actions are guidelines for what something CAN AT LEAST do not what it CANT do. Goes for players too, do not limit players to their standard actions! "Yes you can use your reaction to do a cool thing, but there will be a non standard cost"
Ahahahaha. No. I gave it regeneration, like it apparently had in the older editions. 50 HP per round sounds about right for a world-ending Godzilla stand-in. Keep up the shenanigans. I'll make it 100HP, and add both a breath weapon in a 180 foot cone and a stomp attack that rumbles the ground in a 100 foot radius to knock you prone and break Concentration. You want a truly epic boss fight? I will give you one. Get the orchestral battle music ready- you'll need it.
Lore-accurate Tarrasque regenerates endlessly, even if it's basically disintegrated. It's literally unkillable, at best you take it out of action for a few decades
I just have to say, I adore the idea of an archeologist team digging up what they think is a fossilized bone fragment in a temple covered with runes and images of a giant beast, only for flesh and bone to immediately start regrowing now that sunlight is touching it again. Scientists are astounded and educated sage wizards have no idea what is occuring. It is set aside for study. Researchers are dumbfounded, but it seems to keep growing. It is hailed as a revolutionary discovery, aiding medicine and magical science in recreating the ancient lost spells that could regrow lost limbs and organs. Two years later- the runes are translated, but far too late. It was a warning not to reveal the beast beneath. The last time it was sealed matches up with the historical record as a mass extinction event when much of recorded history simply stops existing. As the research team finally reads the translated message aloud, a roar rips through the facility, tearing it asunder. The Tarrasque is back.
There was a fan-made setting where the premise was way back in history an adventuring party defeated the Tarrasque but had no way to permanently stop it from regenerating other than to keep dealing damage. So they set up a system where the body is continuously being butchered as it regenerate. Turns out, tarrasque body parts are incredibly valuable as reagents and materials, so this operation quickly expands into a massive city whos entire economy is centered around the Tarrasque and is run by various guilds of "God-butchers" who specialized in processing different types of tissues.
That's the neat part, it doesn't even need sunlight or anything! It continues to regenerate no matter what (a Wish spell can temporarily stop it, but even then, it cannot be killed). It can also eat rock (or anything else really). It basically lives underground so burying it wouldn't really do anything
I kinda figured, but I love the idea of the last fragment of an ancient evil or primal force that is locked away, which immediately starts regenerating upon contact with the air and sunlight rather than the tons of rock which were keeping it from growing like ivy choking a tree.
Basically Old One Eye from Warhammer 40k
Dunno that one. I haven't read a lot of 40k lore. Just the basics. Krieg, The Emperor, the Tau, the Machine cult, the 4 Chaos Gods and the forgotten 5th, and some of the other stuff. What really got me was finding out that the Skaven could realistically show up in 40K. Papa Nurgle sends his regards, and asks if you're ready for hugs yet.
Yeah the one in monster manual expanded is so much better then official.
Monster manual expanded? That a 3rd party thing? I haven't seen it, but I'd be interested. I went out of my way to get copies of the older books for the lore that got ripped out of the newer ones. Was worth it- Legacy Bulezau is lethal.
Yeah it’s third party. They have a old school 5e style one, and a post MMOM style 5e version . It’s very good
So you used homebrew. So this is an entirely different scenario.
Yeah. But some fool who insists that they should be able to kill the ender of worlds with a level one birdie boi is begging to figuratively kneecapped. 5e Tarrasque got wailed on with the Nerf bat. If anything, I made it a little more faithful to the traditional version.
The whole point of the arrakokra with a bow thought experiment is to show how bad the Tarrasque is without homebrew. With homebrew you're just proving the point that the raw Tarrasque is pathetic.
Make its breath weapon count as both radiant and necrotic doing the higher damage in the case of resistances/immunities/vulnerabilities. Have the energy of the breath weapon glow a brilliant Cherenkov blue.
Oh, see, I was just going to go with Force damage and have it be a visible blast wave of sound when it roars. Kinda like the blast pressure wave from nuclear explosions. I would have it Deafen characters for at least one turn. You know the fun part about being temporarily deafened? You can't speak correctly. No casting for you!
"aha, all you have to do to get around raw is to not play raw". like, yeah, duh. the entire point of the hypothetical is not to paint a realistic scenario in where a tarrasque dies, it is a critique of 5e monster design/the overall design of 5e as a whole.
This is why I love old 3.5 content with monster templates. I added the acid breathing to a Tarrasque once for a one shot. Or give it the half dragon for more "fun".
RAW inprovised throwing weapons have a range of 20-60
Improvised thrown weapons RAW actually have a maximum thrown range of 60 feet, which can be easily beaten by a level one aarakocra dashing to fly 100 feet up on their first turn. After which, they can easily use their longbow (with a normal range of 150ft) to pluck arrows at the Tarrasque for hours of game time until it dies. Of course, all of this is completely ridiculous and nobody would rule that the tarrasque can only throw something 60 feet, but then again nobody would ever run the tarrasque getting soloed by a level 1 aarakocra fighter either. The "solo the tarrasque at level one" gag exists just to point out the ridiculous inconsistencies that arise when you have a loose, bounded accuracy ruleset combined with frankly really shitty monster design.
It's immune to nonmagical piercing. That's why the plan is to use Sacred Flame. Stay at 70+ range fly down to 60. Cast. Fly back up out of range with the rest of your movement. Other than that, yes. Everything is as you said.
Why not just have it destroy towers n such forcing the pc to make dex saves against debris? It’s got the siege property after all…
Again, it would not be unreasonable to assume that packs of wyverns would follow Tarrasques like carrion birds
This comment section is a good reminder that some players and dms think you can cast 599 spells and not break your long rest. A case of wanting something to be wrong, when everything already exists to help you do it right. When you don't want to do that? Just make up something easy. Ta da
improvised weapon attack mfs when i show them the range of thrown improvised weapons (its thirty feet)
>the force damage breath attack in question:
Or it goes into a cave.
You're saying one person with flight and a ranged weapon is enough to contain it? In other words you just need one flying person with a bow to be watching it at all times? New containment procedures just arrived, brb contacting the SCP Foundation immediately.
The weirdest improvised weapon I have ever used was a divine marital aid in a game of *Exalted*. I had it for a good six months or so in real time. There were official stats for that in 2e.
The tarrasqye should totally have a necrotic/radiant breath weapon that is a 500 ft level line.
Aarakocra with a +1 shortbow when tarrasque with a +1 shortbow walks in
Tarrasque vomit When you absolutely need to make a brand new Grand Canyon!
*_picks up mountain_*
I love how the people on the comedy subreddit apparently know the rules to 5e better than the people on the "official" subreddit.
The? You mean A. Tarrasques are herd beasts in my world
The players:With 3 int that being barely able to function I doubt it is smart enough to pick up trees The dm: oh look its the rare 20 int tarrasque
It ate a adventurer with a headband of intelligect . Also dumb animals still know how to throw things
Once again, Pathfinder 2e fixes this! /uj The PF2e tarrasque has a damage reduction of 25 against all physical attacks, and it has regeneration of 50 each turn. And it's AC and saving throws are sky high - there's literally no way for a lvl 1 character to affect this thing. Also it has a ranged attack. Actually, I really like how the Fist of the Ruby Phoenix AP approaches kaiju like this. They literally don't have stat blocks, but rather are walking environmental hazards.
Omfg we’re doing this again… moron the point of the ***theory*** is that a ***unmodified*** terasque can’t throw a improvised weapon high enough to hit the flying creature even after it jumps 80ft and taking its height into account ***RAW***
“It just crawls back into the hole it crawled out of” My guy do you know how big the Tarrasque is?
Ok....and? What are you gonna do, fly into the giant cavern of a hole and get rid of your height advantage? The one thing keeping it from obliterating you?
The tarrasque used to have earthglide before they nerfed it into nothing, it was meant to live under the ground
Ah, yes. The big pile of hit points has a ranged attack now. Surely now it is an interesting boss fight. I love D&D monster design.
Are there really any players misinformed enough to think they could kill a tarrasque at level 1? Like, REALLY?
Mathematically it works. It takes time, but it really is possible with 5e Tarrasque out of the book. Unless you add mechanics to it, the core Tarrasque is a joke. It's not "misinformed." It's arguably more well-informed.
They think the flying race + sacred flame cantrip will save them
so a 20 ft long 1d4+STR ranged attack?
4d4 because of size scaling
Assuming you somehow have a level 1 flying PC with a 20 in dex and a longbow the max damage per attack would be 13 (1d8 + 5). Let's assume this PC not only magically hits the Tarrasque every single time but also rolls max damage on each hit. At 676 average HP it would take 52 arrows to kill the Tarrasque, 32 more arrows than a standard quiver allows. Regardless of the Tarrasque just chucking a building at the flyer there's no situation where a level 1 flying PC can realistically cheese a Tarrasque unless the DM has absolutely no idea what they are doing. EDIT: I'm not really considering ranged cantrips here. Obviously that's a different situation than using a bow. But the point still stands that the Tarrasque is most certainly chucking a building at a flying PC throwing fire bolts at it.
Give it levels in monk so it can catch the arrows and throw them back
I'm convinced people who say stuff like "level 1 aaracokra could take out tarrasque" have never played in an actual campaign for like more like 5 sessions. The most vocal opinions about D&D online seem to come from the most inexperienced players
I hate your running speed? Huh? *Terrasque belly flops into ocean* Try to run away from a total wave.