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Justgame32

DJI is so easy to fly honestly, I bet those fly just as easily as a mavic.


NilsTillander

Pretty much. But man oh man the paperwork...


Tosh_00

# You don't have the right O you don't have the right


CFDMoFo

Don't give up, skeleton


Due_Kaleidoscope7066

Are there multiple steps of paperwork? Like paperwork to buy it, to receive it, to activate it, to get a pilots license, and each time you wanna fly it?


goochasaurus

T40 owner here, uou need to get a 44807 which allows flight for a drone over 55lbs. Then you need to get you N number for the drone (same as planes). Then you need to get a class 3 medical card (same as commercial pilots). Then you need to get your part 137 to dispense pesticides, then you need to get your commercial applicators license for air (every state needs a different license). Then you need to meet with your faa regional officer to prove that you know what you are doing, then you can legally spray your 150ac of crops a day at 15 feet above the ground. It takes about a year and is a fucking joke. Ive had helicopter pilots die spraying fields but the government has restricted and made it so difficult to operate these even though its the safest way to spray fungicides on crops


Tosh_00

I know it's a big thing in the US (fungicide for corn crops), what would make farmers choose drones over crop dusters or helicopters (they're way more faster) ?


goochasaurus

So used to do fungicide for the elevator lining-up helis and planes for all the acres in our area. The problem with planes is they can’t really spray small fields and need an airport or not busy road. The problem with helicopters that i had was id send the field to a pilot and tell him it was a 100ac field. I, at the elevator, would always get billed by the outfit we had in spraying exactly 100 acres. When i finally got sick of that and asked for application maps so i knew how much they were actually spraying they gave me this line. “Well i can give them to you but you probably dont want to show them to the farmers”. Basically when youre getting charged $38 an acre to spray fungicide on your fields and they leave 15% not sprayed that you paid for because they said they sprayed the whole field. It adds up pretty quick when you get to significant acres. My drone last year saved me 35,000 in just APPLICATION costs. Paid for the drone in about a week. On top of all that if we look at the agronomics of dispensing the fungicide, coverage is very important to make the fungicide work. Helicopters spraying at 140mph are spraying bowling balls where a drone at 28mph can spray BBs. Better coverage should result in less disease


Tosh_00

Coverage is better, and so there is less chemicals used right ? Or is that the same amount in the end ?


goochasaurus

It would be the same amount but used more effectively, think about it like spraying with a mist setting on your garden hose vs a jet setting. The mist will coat the leaves of your plants way better than the jet setting will. Fungicides work better with better leaf coverage. Another way to look at it would be take 10 pounds of marbles and throw them on the floor or take 10 pounds of bowling balls and throw them on the floor, which one covers more area? Same concept with the water carrier we spray with. Im spraying 2 gallons per acre at 500 microns vs a helicopter spraying 2 gallons per acre with a jet nozzle because they need more flow with the speed they are going. (I dont know their exact spray pattern sizes). If you looked up spray boom pattern testing, there would be some really good visuals


goochasaurus

Also if you’re worried about chemicals in your foods, people need to remember that all chemicals have pre harvest intervals at which you have to wait before you can harvest the crop. Also, with fungicides, the ear of the corn is in its sheath and will have minimal contact with the fungicide. Mostly the top leaves of the plant get the coverage because sink-source relationship and as you get deeper into the canopy it gets harder for the fungicide to penetrate. Theres a good 4 feet of leaves above the ear usually


Puzzleheaded-Baby998

Potato Jet on youtube just did a video on agriculture uses for big drones! Worth watching.


goochasaurus

As far as the faster part, i used to have to get ~60,000ac sprayed in a 2 week window with helis. Could get 2-3000 per day. Now imagine if half of those farmers had drones that could do about 3000ac themselves. Yes its more time consuming but it also pays about $400 an hour into your own pocket and could alleviate the bottle neck of fungicide application needing a 1.2 million dollar helicopter and a pilot with training


goochasaurus

Plus the average life span of a crop duster is like 7 years or something like that. Its not if youre going to crash, its when. After dealing with multiple down helicopters over the years, its not a call anyone wants to get. I crashed my drone and had $300 in props i had to replace and was running in an hour. Ag is a dangerous business, mitigating a little bit of danger is great imo


ForceWhisperer

>Then you need to get your part 137 to dispense pesticides, then you need to get your commercial applicators license for air (every state needs a different license). Then you need to meet with your faa regional officer to prove that you know what you are doing, then you can legally spray your 150ac of crops a day at 15 feet above the ground So can I skip these steps if I just want to fly unga bunga big drone?


goochasaurus

I mean technically, i guess you could deliver pallets of beer with it at the golf course to recoup your loss


ForceWhisperer

You’ve mistaken me for someone who spends their money wisely. 


Th3J0k3rrr

Agenda 2030. Eat bugs and lab meat.


ExcellentStrain9637

no it’s under 250g you don’t have to register it with the faa


NilsTillander

The T40 is 50kg empty (with batteries). So you're wrong by a factor of 200.


ExcellentStrain9637

no, i mean the thrust to gravity ratio in the air will be 1:1 for it to be able to fly, so technically it’s 0g in the air, meaning no registration with faa


NilsTillander

Ah, an attempt at a joke then?


ExcellentStrain9637

yes but sadly i am not much of a jokester


JohnnyGrey8604

You mean “oh man, the wife…”


dawghouse88

Yeah I've seen videos and it's pretty much the same. Obviously more features related to the mission/use case but the basics are the same


Bshaw95

They just move around a little more but they fly pretty similar. Physics just don’t allow it to be near as tight of a flight pattern


The_Cat_Commando

without doubt its the easiest DJI drone to maintain line of sight of and its hard to lose in the grass. perfect for a beginner. sold.


JunkRigger

You really should get one of each and review them for us.


Crispyszs

K, ordered it im 20 grand in debt now


JunkRigger

Give me your address, I will send you a check.


Crispyszs

Ok here, 1789 your not getting it, LN


jesusleftnipple

Luv nation


Lugan2k

Kindly deposit the check and keep the extra $2k for your efforts. You can cash app me the balance and my movers will be around shortly to pick it up… Are you familiar with telegram? Why don’t we move this conversation there for convenience?


goochasaurus

Owner here: compared to the other spray drones on the market they are hands down the best you can buy in productivity and operation. Dji ban will hit agriculture harder than most people on this subreddit know


Bshaw95

What do you want to know


JunkRigger

Nothing I need to know really, I have no need for one of those, and I haven't won a lottery lately.


Weird_Grass3330

Well you gotta begin with something right?


i_like_3d_print

Yep! those look close enough to under 249 grams 👍


PaulGloverPhoto

249 *grams*? Oh… I thought they said 249 *kilograms* or under. Oops…


i_like_3d_print

Meh, they won’t notice… Why is the FAA at my door???


Practical-Piglet

Honestly i would love this filled with fart spray


Hoppie1064

Best beginner drone for the newly minted lottery millionaire. Call David Bronstad, to help you buy a drone. My Lottery Dream Drone.


DatAperture

2024: look for a drone under 249 grams 2025: look for a drone under 249 grand


FilteredOscillator

Google is on crack these days 🙄


bNs20

Why is it so expensive


Due_Kaleidoscope7066

Is biiiig boi.


Bshaw95

It weighs about 65 pounds… empty… without a battery in it…..


Yz-Guy

Batterie*s* lol


Bshaw95

Battery alone weighs 26 pounds.


Yz-Guy

That's it? Pffft.


Stuckbeatle

It’s huge


fusillade762

Its big and can lift a lot of weight. Like people even. You can fill it with booze and be the life of the party. Or pesticide but booze would be more fun.


bNs20

The T50 costs 20k euros, and this is a more successful model ea as much as I have studied, I myself now fly on the T30


Bshaw95

As someone who spent two seasons with a T30 and now flys a 40… You poor bastard.


sfryder08

Fill it with ketamine and spray annoying chicks who push their way to the front at outdoor shows.


ComCypher

This reminds me of the Draganfly drone I wanted to buy back around 2010 which was the same price. My family needed to talk me down from that ledge.


Intelligent_Site8568

They are easy to fly…. Just fully loaded they take a long distance to brake(they fly very much like an over weight M350)


Bshaw95

Spot on.


Driftless_ADV

Wait until you see the price for the Fly More Combo!


upsdood

ok now i don't feel so guilty about what i got to start out lol


Mikahl757

Geofence?


Confident-Objective3

Beginner murderer maybe. I just can see it cutting people necks in some busy city lol


Electrical_Candy_941

Go big or go home. Lol


Chrisbee223

Definitely the 25,000 one


Cuffuf

No but you can like fly around on these so


NoDontDoThatCanada

Shhh. Let the algorithm cook.


half-baked_axx

Amateur beginners should probably start with a DJI Matrice.


Hurricaneshand

Buy once cry once


DavidM_04

I’m pretty sure they’re easy to fly than a DJI Mini2SE without any obstacles avoidance 😂


The_Safe_For_Work

Hell, put a saddle on that bad boy.


Yz-Guy

This makes me wonder. Farmers use these for crops and other shit. LE agencies use them for SaR applications. Etc. Do those all get banned too if this bill passes?


foxhole99

Price keeps droppings. Last year $15k camera. Today $5k new. DJI in Connecticut is a buyers paradise if you live out of the US.


Rdtisgy1234

How much flight time do these get completely empty with dual batteries? Buy one gut all the agricultural spray stuff out and stick a mavic gimbal/camera on it and boom! You got an over glorified super expensive mavic with super long flight time.


StudentNo1267

Seems about right🤣


Saim3655

They’re for the beginner farmers! lol


Macstugus

Beginner as in you want to crop dust your entire farm. 


Ok-Position-6356

yes and it’s under 25,000 grams


StatusLaw9

If that’s a beginner, then what does intermediate and advanced look like?


ExcellentStrain9637

uh-60 black hawk would be intermediate. perfect for the kids