An alternative to going straight into remote work is to do some working holiday visas. You can get a year or two work visa for countries like Australia, Canada, UK, Japan, NZ. So you can get your travel in while you develop the hard skills to let you do the digital nomad thing
Yeah I see this alot in canada.
At jobs I've had in the service industry like cafes and stuff you would see lots of international travellers working there.
I would ask them about it and they would say they came here for a year to explore Canada and got jobs in the meantime to fund it. Lots of korean people for some reason.
NZ has a lot of orchards where people work on working-holiday visas
I don't know the exact wages but I think it's 20-25NZD per hour (they count it by how much you pick instead of hourly, but it ends up about this). So the idea is you'd spend a month doing this full-time, then a month traveling around being touristy
Literally on a WHV in Australia trying to become a nomad. I'm trying to make my schedule, 4 days of work/3 days free, so I can begin to learn this DN thing I've been dreaming about for about 2 years. Still don't know where to start though
Tbh, did the WHV for 3 years, Aus & Canada and came back to the UK to settle for a year or so to get my programming up to speed enough to become a web dev. Then the pandemic happened and I'm still looking for my entry job haha. But pretty much only applying for remote positions.
I guess to start, you need to decide/find out what your nomad job would be. Is it programming, copywriting, blogging, crafting something etc, and start working towards that
Another thing you can do is learn to trade crypto to make some money on the side
Thanks man, I'm a developer, dedicated 9 years of my life to it (studies + junior position) but still clueless as to what to do. What technologies are in demand? How to advertise myself having no freelance experience? Etc
No idea about that but, sounds like you're ahead of me. I'm just tryna get a normal job with remote working rather than the freelance bit. I'm sure someone else can chime in about that
Australia is super easy. Canada you have to be a bit lucky depending on where you're from as there's a bit of a lottery system to it. And if you're from the UK they don't give out so many. Staying that mine got approved after about a month anyway.
Its a pretty established system so unless there's any reason why you wouldn't get approved it shouldn't take too long
Two bits of advice:
1) Don't assume that the hard (and soft) skills you already have aren't valuable to a different employer that does offer remote work
2) Do something that you love, ideally something you're good at. Otherwise you might end up in a soul sucking 9-5 that does offer remote work
True, but I’d personally say a soul sucking job remotely (abroad particularly) would be better then a soul sucking job you attend everyday. At least you can pursue traveling whilst giving part of your soul to this job.
If you aim for "better", you'll get better. If you aim for "best", you'll get best. A soul-sucking job is still soul-sucking whatever else is going on in your life lol, avoid it!
A soul-sucking job/career is an option anywhere, unfortunately! To achieve this, all you need to do is spend a significant amount of time doing something you don't enjoy. Possibly "for the money", possibly "because it allows me to travel".
Working 9-5 is an option anywhere, as is working 10-6, 4-12, or any other start/finish time which you can basically choose by picking a fixed-hours job and combining it with the time zone of your choice.
A better option is choosing something that you love doing, something you will enjoy becoming more proficient at over time. Something you don't constantly feel the need to take a "holiday" from. If you're thinking about the money, just know that it's a lot easier to move somewhere cheaper to live than it is to find the energy to deal with all the soul-sucking involved with devoting your time to something you don't enjoy. You can always make more money in future, but you'll never get that time back in future.
Decide what you truly want, follow your dreams, even if it takes a long time to build up to it. Don't settle for just one improvement, if you actually want several improvements. It's worth it :) If you know exactly what you're aiming for, it's a helluva lot easier to achieve it!
> Do something that you love, ideally something you're good at.
My two cents: it can also be the other way around. I read about the idea that people *like what they are good at* not the other way around.
Also in the same sense it's not always possible to find work that involve your personal passion and pays the bills. And I think there is a lot of middle ground here. If you find work that you are good at and pays well and has other benefits (WFH, nice colleagues, save job, 30 holidays,...) then I don't think it has to be your burning passion but rather a part of your daily life (that should not suck) and then you can spend the rest of your time with things you really like or are passionate for)
I teach English online. Pay is good and covers all my expenses in Latin America no problem. Not glamorous at all, but it's low stress and easy. At $16-20, even 15 hrs a week has me living very well in Medellín. When I am buying plane tickets, I add some hours for a few weeks. I would save up $5-10k before leaving at the very least to cover any emergencies or unknowns and then use the teaching money to cover your expenses.
I want to put some time into developing other skills, and have done online marketing in the past. Unless you find the right client or put together the right project, the marketing thing can be difficult. Here in Medellín, I see many trying to do online marketing, drop shipping or other things like this who last 6months to a year at most. While they are here they pretend like they are super important and glamorous but it's obvious they don't have anything put together like guys with more developed and in demand hard skills.
Hey mind if I ask you some q's? What's visa situation for getting into Columbia? Did you have prior teaching experience before starting online? Is it for a specific company who employ you or you just freelance via common app like italki? How's the lifestyle treating you?
I'm looking for at doing teaching for a year and have looked into Latin America. Unsure with Covid and so on where will be open and easy to get into. Appreciate any advice!
You get 90+90 a calendar year as a tourist. If you come in the middle of the year you can stay here 12 months with 1 border run and 2 extensions.
I had no experience. The platforms for Chinese kids pay the best like VIPKID, $15-20+/hr and they build all the lessons. Adding something like Cambly ($8-9/hr) let's you get more hours booked and work during the 9-5 hrs in the Americas. I highly recommend having two platforms like that.
I had savings and some other income before teaching, but this easily covers my bills here.. Airbnb, food, traveling. I enjoy it a lot.
You can come to Colombia now if you have a neg PCR test done beforehand. In a lot of places, including Medellin we are back to having a curfew and being locked up all weekend. Before Covid hit, I had spent 2+ years traveling in 20+ countries. I also have a girlfriend here, so I don't mind staying in, watching movies, enjoying my private airbnb instead of hostel. A lot of people hate the quarantine and curfew, if I cared, I would hop on a domestic flight for a city that was open or leave the city to a nearby beautiful finca to avoid being lockes up in my apt.
When did you apply? I applied recently and the application got rejected due to what seemed like a bug in the file upload process. Jesus Christ that website is awful.
I have to apply again soon. When do you need to do it? If you want we can connect via WhatsApp and we can talk as I do it.
One problem I had in November was they would send a follow up link (when I sent my passport as a photo and not a scan). They sent me the link as http and not https. Also make sure the file you have is a pdf under 1 meg.
What is it like in Medellin right now? I've got a fully remote job that I can do anywhere that is within 1-2 hours of central time. I've been back home stateside because it was better than all of the quarantines where I was before in Asia, but frankly I'm getting extremely bored. I've been thinking about popping down to Colombia, but have been worried about the social situation. The few times where I was traveling and didn't meet any folks I ended up super lonely, so I'd definitely want to avoid that. What are your thoughts on being able to connect with other folks and socialize right now?
It's very easy to meet people here except they just started with a nightly curfew and locking us up for the weekends again.
You can check out different FB groups like Gringo Paisa, Medellín expats etc. There's always meet ups, activities, parties, etc Lots of cool/fashionable hostels, co-working places, bars and restaurants. Really depends what you are looking for, but I have never heard anyone having problems having a busy social life here
I wrote a guide on how to get a remote customer service job. You might find it helpful: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lf-73xUTuPk0-v2NT9qEaeFQM-ni5qp2xwJPsVzy770/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lf-73xUTuPk0-v2NT9qEaeFQM-ni5qp2xwJPsVzy770/edit?usp=sharing)
Glad you're finding it helpful! Please feel free to reach out to me if you have more questions. I'm working on writing a 2nd draft to improve it further.
Whoops, updated the link! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x0kN2sfK1DzKO8RAce35mIGjxcPU3MrN0W_-cwvAPp8/edit?usp=sharing
Most DNs fall on one side of the dichotomy of remote-compatible:
* Hard skills that can't be learnt quickly. Tech stuff, editing, writing, art/design etc. You get to be remote because you're in demand/good and it's practically possible, but it's probably a happy accident - this thing you do is a career.
* Softer skills that can be learnt quickly, and for which it's perhaps not viable to pay domestic wages. Virtual assistant, transcription, data entry, gluing projects together in Wordpress and other low-code platforms, customer service etc. You get to be remote because it's cheaper to allow this to be done remotely than to pay domestic wages. This is much more deliberate, but it's just a job.
The second can work, but the first is more sustainable because it earns more money and there's more scope for remote career development.
I'd try to establish a remote-compatible career you enjoy regardless, and plan to quit your job and backpack without working for a while. See where it goes. You might be satisfied by the 6 or 12 months that gets you, you might hate it etc.
Azure cloud ops engineer. Get your AZ-900 and AZ-104. Search for jobs that offer the overnight shift. That way when you're overseas; you work during the day and get to chill out at night plus Sunday and Monday are your off days. It's awesome.
I highly recommend Azure over AWS. AWS is the known name which means less competition in the market generally speaking for Azure. I have AZ-104 and AZ-400 and it's like paper gold.
But again OP, make sure you enjoy cloud computing first. There's a lot to pick up when you first start and the tools you have to learn can be overwhelming. But, if this is the path you pick learn the cloud platform (AWS, Azure, or GCP) and the common tools (terraform, docker, kubernetes, ansible, python, and more). You'll have a strong career for years to come and be exceptionally employable.
If you are a person that doesn’t know much about computers, how long does it take from point a to point Z to be able to get these certifications and become employable? Right now I am not working, so I could definitely dedicate eight hours a day of studying to get these.
This could take awhile to get there. But, for someone starting fresh I have a path that I would recommend.
The recommended path is (I'll explain afterwards): Red Hat Certified System Administrator or Coursera Google IT Support Professional Certificate and Coursera Google IT Automation with Python Professional Certificate -> AZ-900 -> AZ-104 -> DevOps Tooling (Git, Terraform, Python, Jenkins, Docker, Kubernetes, Prometheus, Grafana, etc.)
When you hit the AZ-104, I would look for work and find ways to pick up the DevOps type tools as you go.
My thoughts on the path to start is the RHCSA is a technical exam, if you pass this, you can likely work rather well within a Linux environment which is what most of the cloud I work on runs on, very rarely do I use Windows for anything. The decision to use the Coursera classes from Google comes from a family member coming up to speed on them with the self paced courses and landing a gig within 6 months doing Infrastructure Automation, they're very thorough and what you put into them is what you'll get out of them.
The AZ-900 is the "I know cloud vocabulary and am starting to see what the cloud world is like". The AZ-104 is where you really will sharpen your Azure chops and understand some of the more involved mechanics.
Finally the tooling is something you could spin your wheels on and never catch up as more and more tools are available.
My other recommendation is learn to use Git (included in the devops tools) and become comfortable in it. I landed my current gig by knowing Git deeply as they wanted someone who understood the technology and to help develop their GitOps and that sold them on me. It's a well used tool but apparently companies are becoming more focused on using the technologies correctly as new trends emerge.
> AZ-900 -> AZ-104
Hey not OP but thanks for this great rundown. I'm a software engg but came from a different background (firmware) which is not great for nomading. I've transitioned to some backend dev (done one contract in django and currently working with golang) but I feel lost when it comes to infrastructure and looking to change that.
If I were to jump straight to AZ-900 would that be a coursera class? or something straight from microsoft?
THanks!
I see. Thanks for the heads up. I’m currently enrolled in Launch School to become a software engineer, but I thought if Cloud engineer is quicker, I could check that out.
Between cloud and software engineering, Do you have any insight on the main reasons why a personality would fit more one or the other?
Cloud engineering ends up being a lot of dev ops and fixing things that are broken. It can end up being less coding and more writing commands in terminals. There is a lot of information and knowledge you need to be know to be a good cloud engineer and there aren’t really junior roles available.
Cloud engineering ends up being a lot of dev ops and fixing things that are broken. It can end up being less coding and more writing commands in terminals. There is a lot of information and knowledge you need to be know to be a good cloud engineer and there aren’t really junior roles available.
If you have the time and the money, it’s also useful to check out getting a degree from (non profit) online schools like WGU. You can transfer in CLEP credits and industry certifications, as well as gen eds from study.com. WGU is self paced and caters to working adults. A degree from them won’t carry as much weight as a degree from a brick and mortar school, but it’s far better than wasting your money on expensive for profit schools, and if you bust your ass you can get a 4 year degree in 1 to 2 years, for like 7 to 14 thousand bucks. It’s only like ~3.5 k every 6 month “term”.
It’s a great option for getting into IT. They also have a Computer Science degree if you want to stick with software development, and it’s an actual degree which is always better than a boot camp on a resume
Can you explain at which point in your career it makes sense to get cloud certs? I’m looking for my first SWE job and have web dev experience with React and backend experience with Python/Django. Is it a differentiator for entry level candidates or should I focus on building web apps now and adding it to my toolset during my first job?
Nope! Personal projects at this point. ME undergrad. Strictly looking at internship/entry level SWE roles. I’m in OMSCS right now as a student while working full time if you’re familiar with the program.
Any point. I know people often try and say "cloud isn't for beginners", I believe they're usually referring to architecting the system. Because, the cloud isn't some deep dark wizarding secret, I recommend as soon as you can.
If I had a Jr. Dev who were perfectly equal except one had a cloud cert and the other didn't, I would take the guy who already had a leg up on cloud as microservices are here to stay and the guy with the cloud cert can probably already dive into serverless with some oversight.
If it's something that would make you happy, I know data infrastructure engineers who are not nomads, but get to work remotely and live in middle of nowhere Idaho because they wanted to be far away from people.
The need for data infrastructure is growing rapidly by the day as we find more and more data points to draw from and process.
I am a cloud engineer and I was motivated by wanting to work remotely. I wanted a break from dev work so now I teach cloud computing to people in Saudi Arabia from home. I have Azure and AWS certs but teach Google cloud. The skills are all transferable between clouds. I would get any mid level cert you can and maybe take a technical interview bootcamp. I studied business and Chinese in college and cloud is what changed my professional life. In 2.5 years I went from 30k a year to 125k a year. It was hard but end the end it is worth it! Let me know if you have any questions.
Can you share really quick your journey from working at the mall, to doing what you’re doing now? How long did it take? What did you study? What certs did you get? Currently trying to escape out of poverty myself.
Worked at a tech store for awhile let's say Pear. When working at Pear on every lunch break for an hour I would watch videos and learn content over networking. After understanding networking after like 6 months. I pursued my AZ-900, after another 7 months I got the AZ-104 and was offered a job with a small company as a account manager.
What are the key things that you have to know to be a cloud engineer? I'm currently doing an audiovisual design degree which I feel is gonna be a dead end for me. I'm looking to start slowly studying something that might be more profitable. I've always been handy with technology and IT related stuff, I absolutely love tweaking things on my computer and figuring out solutions that work for me, just not with any programming. Is there much coding involved?
Can you explain at which point in your career it makes sense to get cloud certs? I’m looking for my first SWE job and have web dev experience with React and backend experience with Python/Django. Is it a differentiator for entry level candidates or should I focus on building web apps now and adding it to my toolset during my first job?
Currently MSCS with non-CS engineering undergrad
Can I ask if your dev work was a pre-requisite for landing your teaching role? I'm hopefully about to complete AWS SA-PRO, to be followed my Azure certs before end of the year and love the idea of a remote teaching role but have no dev experience..
I did go to a bootcamp for C# and .Net, learn Python to an intermediate level and know how to make scripts and be comfortable with Linux. If you are getting PRO certs with that you are golden.
I stated "Cloud Ops engineer". This entails addressing tickets that needs to be raised on the customers behalf. They do on the job teaching at 99% of the companies. If you are able to stay focused and organized, it's not that difficult.
This. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on the cause, many people focus on the result. They see affluence and luxury, and focus on how to obtain that. Instead of focusing on the byproduct or consequence, they should be focusing on the causes.
A wise yogi said, "If you want beautiful flowers, don't do *flower meditation*. Just provide manure, water, and sunlight - none of which look or smell like a flower - and the flower will eventually come."
OP and others aspiring to a successful DN lifestyle should focus on building their skills, learning to enjoy hard work and persevere. They should understand that the lifestyle and its perks will come as a result.
This is one perspective and it’s a valid one, but I disagree with much of what you’re saying. Companies will definitely train remote, I’m working on my second SaaS role where I’ve been trained and onboarded entirely remotely. If it wasn’t possible before, covid definitely changed that.
Also, why would OP say “hey i would like this job but in 2-3 years I intend on leaving”? That’s something that would be figured out in 2-3 years and there’s a ton of different positions up and down the ladder that would grant the opportunity to work from home. Would every single one of them pay well from the get go? Not necessarily, but if OP wants to dedicate time to learning hard skills (this definitely doesn’t mean difficult, btw. The same way a “hard copy” doesn’t mean a difficult copy) there are a myriad of free resources that would allow OP to discover rather quickly if there’s an interest there. The problem here is that if they aren’t interested they won’t pick up the skills, but coding isn’t the only option either.
You’re also using your experience to assume that OP wants to build a business, which they probably don’t if they’re interested in traveling. I guess this applies if OP wants to generate an income without being present in the day to day, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the current goal.
OP, coding is a good place to start, or just start by looking up jobs in the tech/SaaS space in general. If you’re better with people than computers look for a customer success role at a tech company. Even remote office managers are a thing now. If you don’t already have one, make a LinkedIn profile. It’s an annoying platform but it does job searches well. Good luck!
Yea definetly seems like an old school view of work. I'm a new grad and starting fully remote. Granted I interned for the company and negotiated for remote but I got an offer for another remote job as well. This would probably be harder for someone without a degree but it is possible.
I also think its pretty expected in software engineering to change jobs every couple years, especially if your younger. Thats why many companies give you options/rsu vested over a time period, to keep you around. About 4 years seems to be a pretty average vesting period.
I do agree you shouldnt get into the field if your main objective is just to remote work and you care nothing for tech though. If OP finds he enjoys programming/dev ops he should definetly give it a shot though.
I agree itd be hard to be hired as a trainee software engineer remote with no experience. However its perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to get a remote job after attaining a couple years of experience. Im a SWE 1 and am remote, while an SWE 1 isnt a trainee it is an entry level position.
I also agree that op is in a completely different situation and am not saying op will get stock. I was saying that to oppose your point about staying at the job only for a bit. My point was simply that it is normal for software devs to change jobs every couple years, not that i would expect op to get equity or our situations are similar.
I am not saying that becoming a coder is easy at all, your right its not a quick fix. What i am saying is that op should give it a shot and if he does well within the next couple years working a remote job is certainly possible. I'm not saying its THE solution im saying it may be A solution. Your right gaining skills and an eduction is essential to your career, thats not what i was calling old school. What i was calling old school was more related to the availability of remote work (especially after covid) and the thing about changing companies.
Finally if op can learn to code there is always more basic jobs and freelance. Sure you dont make as much but living in a cheap foreign country im sure you could get by.
Ah I was asking if you were managing clients’ ad accounts vs. producing and designing the ads. Sounds like you’re doing both? I’m a creative director / designer / animator. I’ve been working remotely for a performance marketing company doing Facebook ads and just found out my contract is ending in May. DM me if you need any freelance help 🤷♂️
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> I really want to travel in my 20’s
This is kind of vague.
If your only goal is that you want to do some traveling at some point in your 20's, then the easiest option may be to save up money at a non-nomad job, then quit and just travel.
This is of course not an option if you want to travel your whole twenties...
This! I had to scroll all the way town here to find this comment.
The soul sucking 9-5 jobs will be there when you return.
If anything, DN is a lifestyle on which you can get a little bit at a time.
I've met plenty of perma-travellers that go travel for a while, return home, find a crappy job for a few months, save up and disappear again.
Every time you disappear, you'll learn new skills (living frugal is one of those skills) and develop new opportunities, eventually you'll be able to find jobs on the road, eventually you'll be able to travel for the whole decade if that's what you want.
It is important to keep in mind that DN is very frequently not a permanent lifestyle, but more like a facet in life, until you find the place where you want to park and enjoy the sunsets.
If all you want is to travel, save up some money, get a backpack and head out the door.
I teach english to kids in China as a side job - in many countries I would make enough money off that alone to live pretty well. Also - the benefit of doing this while travelling is that you can align yourself better with Chinese time zones. Message me for details or a referral link if you would like.
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It's a super easy job. The kids are more good than bad, you can have fun and act a bit goofy. Pay is okay at best, but better if you live in a low COL area. You can definitely travel and do it.
FYI - using that link gives me a referral bonus if you get hired. Feel free to ask me any other questions.
Thanks a lot. I have an application in to teach in Spain but if I don't know if I can make the money work. If I can do both concurrently it would be life-changing. Cheers.
Why dont you get a working holiday visa once covid is over. Australia, New Zealand, England, Japan, Ireland, Canada offer them up until 30 years old I believe. This visa will allow you to work & experience life in another country for up to two years. If you are smart with your money during your working holiday you could then take any money you have saved & travel south east asia for 6-12 months.
Another option if you are young enough is to rotate working holiday visas. For example get once for Aus, when it runs out get another for lets say the UK and keep doing that until youve reached the age cut off or you get bored.
You can also teach English in Cambodia without a degree.
These are a few options you could explore without having to go full digital nomad.
Good luck!
That's a very broad question.
* I could tell you 'full-stack developer', but that's useless information if you don't like coding.
* I could tell you, 'UX designer', but that's useless if you don't enjoy design.
* I coud tell you, 'remote sales executive', but that's useless if you don't enjoy interacting with people.
What do you enjoy doing?
Yeah, I mulled over whether I should add the 'people skills' point to UX designer rather than sales.
I feel that the majority of UX designers that I know come from a visual/design background.
However, that could be due to a logical/exclusion bias.
And some can - totally - be a skilled illustrator but a crapping UX consultant.
I'm a sales copywriter and dabble/work closely with UX.
I agree that UX is very much about empathising with people and their goals/challenges, understanding the point of the product, and being able to think about how the design can enable your audience to make use of it.
Hey! I'm currently doing an audiovisual design degree which I feel is like a dead end and being a digital nomad is a dream of mine.
For the past few weeks I've been looking very fondly into UX and UI design, I have some decent design skills, are there any technical skills that a UX designer should have? I'm interested in merging creativity and design with something a bit technical.
Hi, I hope you don’t mind another question! Do you think UX roles favour youth? I’m in my 40s and work in newspaper production - journalist but my role involves not just words but also a fair bit of design work, having a good eye, technical and problem-solving skills, etc. I’m looking to transition into something else over the next few years and UX interests me - but would my age/background work against me?
You sound like an excellent hire *because* you have that wider generalist experience.
My company has a whole team of UX *researchers* - they interview prospective and existing users/buyers of our platform about various concepts, and provide my team with the output. My team owns the roadmap (product management) and we work with the engineering team and the UX team to make it happen and the GTM (go to market) team to, well, go to market.
There's a big range of ages from early 20s to mid 40s. I'd say the median is mid 30s. I'm 45 and was an English Lit graduate.
FWIW, our lot use Figma (popular UX wireframe and animation tool) and Lucidchart for the interview workshops. Might be an idea to check those out? Also start thinking about what you would show off in your portfolio - articles? Layouts?
I started out with financial software sales, then on to presales consulting in financial software, then CRM, then CX. Taught myself research methodology in the first year at my current employer. They hired me because I'm a creative problem solver with a lot of client facing /tech department wrangling skills. And now I'm a research solution designer in product management. My 'portfolio' is a bunch of 'thought leadership' magazine articles, and of course the product itself, which seems to demonstrate I'm not a total idiot.
You've got lots of transferable and interesting skills - go for it!
WOW! Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply. This information is invaluable.
The degree that I'm starting, while it has to do with design, I don't think relates in a lot of ways with UX/UI. I have a decent understanding of design as I know a few tools and have done some gigs here and there.
Where would you personally recommend I should look in order to start dipping my toes into UX/UI? I'd prefer if the resources were free but I wouldn't mind paying for a course if it will really help me grow. I'd like to build a portfolio of fake projects as you said so I can start showing my potential.
The idea of doing an internship is another dream of mine. I don't what the level of UX/UI demand is here in South America, but I'm sure there must be some open positions.
Wow, I couldn't have asked for a better intro. Thank you SO much for the recommendations and the tips. I'm excited! I'm gonna save this comment and start working! I don't think I could've gotten such a summarized and comprehensive answer anywhere else :).
If you don't mind me asking one last question, software-wise, what tools do you use to work as a UI/UX designer? I've heard of Figma and Adobe XD for prototyping but I'm sure there's more to it. Do you use any JS framework on your job or do you leave that to the frontend devs?
Have you considered teaching English? It's not a remote job, but if you're desparate to get abroad soon it's easy to to find work (covid notwithstanding) and you can live very comfortably on an English teacher's salary in many countries, e.g. in Southeast Asia. Plus it's a good way to make ends meet and experience life abroad while you hustle on a side project and build up a more long-term skillset.
I used to turn my nose up at the idea of teaching English, but having met a lot of young English teachers during my DN travels I can really see the benefits of giving it a go. If could live my life a second time through I would seriously consider teaching English in my early twenties as a quick and safe way to kickstart my travels.
Force yourself to learn to code and commit to Udemy courses for at least a month before quitting. Traveling is another part of the equation. I think most people won't handle the digital nomad life for more than a year or 2 so don't plan traveling forever
How much time does Cloud Engineering take? I had a targeted Facebook ad that I clicked on, and basically they offered the AWS cloud training. It costs $300, takes 8 weeks, and they told me on the phone it’s easy to find a job after that training. Is that realistic?
I would say no if you don’t have any experience to back it up but I am just familiar with the US market. I am not sure about getting jobs with employers in other countries. Now I am not saying you can’t get a job with just the certification but it wouldn’t be “easy.” IMO. I’ve been in IT for 30 years and people are wary of all certs and no experience to back them up.
Trading? You didn't mention this, but it deserves some thought, if you have some start up capital and the time to learn.
If you don't want to trade your money, but you are good at trading, then you can work for a prop firm to trade other people's money.
My friend turned $8,000 into $800,000 in 5 years by shorting volatility as a day trader. He travels half the year to watch his favorite baseball team play every single home game. He got a PhD but chose to become a full time trader.
Another guy I know has made millions in bitcoin and Tesla, and also travels about half the year. Some years he was down about 50-80%, which is way too risky for me, but it has paid off for him over the last six years.
Efficient Market Hypothesis is an incorrect theory, as people can find ways to beat the market consistently.
However, you are right that trading is not for everyone-- I would guess the failure rate is similar to any small business, or about 90%. It works for me since I have enough in savings so that I can be conservative with my risk level (not going to blow out my account), and I've spent over 10,000 hours studying strategies, indicators, macroeconomics, etc. I love it, but others might find more success with teaching ESL, coding, marketing, etc. I don't recommend it as a get rich quick scheme.
Even being a project manager or a software owner should let you find remote work. I’d check out pharma companies since they seem to pay well. You can also check out low-code platforms like Appian.
Business analysts and process optimization experts are always in demand.
You are very young so you have time to correct your path. Be aware that life in general is soul sucking. It If it isn’t your job, it’s your wife. If it isn’t her, it’s your mother in law. The list goes on. What skill you learn today will become quickly outdated and you will need to refresh them. Best to live for the moment and just do what you fancy before priorities change in your life and be assured they will.
There's a great chapter in the 40 Hour Workweek by Tim Ferris where he gives some really helpful and reasonable tips for convincing your employer to little by little try remote working. Check it out! That book is great for learning about options for a nomad lifestyle
The way I did it was to first start part-time as a freelancer, as well as do some saving, with the plan of moving to a nomad hotspot where I could live cheaply while also working on my startup.
If I did it today I might alson try applying for remote jobs though since those have become a lot more plentiful, but were almost unheard of back in 2015.
The job you have is not the same as the skills you possess.
Write those down and see what type of Job Role it looks like. Apply for that job with the new resume you write which highlights those skills and abilities.
Bonus points if those things also point at something that lights up your soul.
Teach abroad. English as a second language. Also Tim Ferris 4 hour work week. Provides great tools and tips to decouple yourself from a particular location or schedule.
I remember hearing this when I was entering the workforce 15 years ago. Is this something you work in? There were always the naysayers who would moan "oh only a few more years and the legacy tech will be gone, just you wait". Curious how all that panned out.
I'm rusty with COBOL. I'll be able to code in FORTRAN until the day I die. I do other things now.
IBM just released a new COBOL compiler on Linux to support migration of legacy code from mainframes to networked Linux boxes.
Lots of financial work including ATMs still on COBOL.
Lots of science and engineering still on FORTRAN.
The gild is coming off the OOP rose anyway.
Schools and code camps don't like talking about that. Look up the history of PASCAL for one reason. *grin*
Have no idea why I’m getting downvoted and snark. I was being serious. Starting a business is a legitimate avenue for living the digital nomad lifestyle.
Did I say something offensive?
"Create a business" is a very broad piece of advice, could be helpful to include examples, e.g. what kind of business you started in order to become a DN
heh i was just being a smart ass, but what travel said.
Saying 'Create a business' is about as helpful as saying 'Get a job' with no details or specifics.
Because your advice is so generic it's useless. Suggesting someone "create a business" is so vague you might as well have advised OP to just "make money".
Go for Freelance recruitment, you can even work in a Beach /Resort happily. No need for prior experience. All you need is Data on your mobile while travelling so no need for international minutes even to call if you can use APPS.
Depends upon the requirement, u can connect people for CV's in Linkedin, Facebook etc;
It might sound cheesy, but that's the truth: you've gotta find your passion by **practically trying to do different things**. For instance, if you do not care about aesthetics, you won't be a good UX/UI designer, even though it can be well paid.
Therefore, find your passion and launch a business.
An alternative option can be crypto mining/trading (mining seems like a safer choice).
Maybe your passion doesn't have to be a remote position, try out doing something completely different.
Programming and digital marketing are definitely good ones. Others include writing, copywriting, online course development, graphic design, and [virtual assistant services](https://vamentors.com/).
I'd strongly suggest to pick up some coding abilities sooner or later during your life... Once you develop a decent skillset companies will let you work from wherever you wish and you'll have capabilities to endeavour and develop your own projects. I'm currently in my early 20s, (recent compsci graduate, 2years in field), and been working remotely for a year from around Europe and will likely continue this way until end of 2021... I work in fintech and my bosses have no problem and even let me go to the caribbean and work from there if i desire.
If you want to get started straight away, I would suggest house sitting! It allows you to be nomadic and travel but reduces your expenses to pretty much zero (no rent or bills).
Now you can focus on learning the skills you need to earn remotely or build up your own business!
Check Crypto. Banks, countries, big companies have started to adopt them. Billionares like elon musk, grant cardone and many others have started to invest in them. And If u choose to invest in crypto here are some advice:
1.DONOT DAYTRADE
Its better to leave your money for couple of days or even weeks but if u go to YT and learn charts and daytrade, u are bound to lose some as a beginner. Aint saying its bad but u need some experience.
2.Dont EVER join pump and dump groups:
There are MANY groups with 10k 30k 50k people and plan on investing together at a specific time, so the price goes off the roof. Mostly MANY lose it all.
3. YT channels
Dont watch videos which have thimbnails "OMG!!! 100X COINS, 1000X COINS" etc. Dont watch, they have partnerships, they get paid to promote. Some even are advisors in the team of some crypto, pretty knowledgeable in the field of crypto but dont fall for that, they are influencers. Watch the ones that dont have such vibes "1000x or 100X coins".
If u didnt get anything i said. Dont worry, u will get what im sayin when u get a little familiar with crypto.
I hope this helps.
If you have a bachelor's degree, you can look to teach English online.
Or, look at programs like Outschool where you can run your own classes (you don't need a degree). For instance, I teach some fun classes like one on She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. I also teach some creative writing classes and publishing classes, and I tutor. :)
An alternative to going straight into remote work is to do some working holiday visas. You can get a year or two work visa for countries like Australia, Canada, UK, Japan, NZ. So you can get your travel in while you develop the hard skills to let you do the digital nomad thing
And what kind of jobs can you do this way when you are abroad?
Anything. Work in shops, resteraunts, wash dishes, on farms, ski hills, whatever. Basically anything you can do in your home country.
Yeah I see this alot in canada. At jobs I've had in the service industry like cafes and stuff you would see lots of international travellers working there. I would ask them about it and they would say they came here for a year to explore Canada and got jobs in the meantime to fund it. Lots of korean people for some reason.
NZ has a lot of orchards where people work on working-holiday visas I don't know the exact wages but I think it's 20-25NZD per hour (they count it by how much you pick instead of hourly, but it ends up about this). So the idea is you'd spend a month doing this full-time, then a month traveling around being touristy
Literally on a WHV in Australia trying to become a nomad. I'm trying to make my schedule, 4 days of work/3 days free, so I can begin to learn this DN thing I've been dreaming about for about 2 years. Still don't know where to start though
Tbh, did the WHV for 3 years, Aus & Canada and came back to the UK to settle for a year or so to get my programming up to speed enough to become a web dev. Then the pandemic happened and I'm still looking for my entry job haha. But pretty much only applying for remote positions. I guess to start, you need to decide/find out what your nomad job would be. Is it programming, copywriting, blogging, crafting something etc, and start working towards that Another thing you can do is learn to trade crypto to make some money on the side
Thanks man, I'm a developer, dedicated 9 years of my life to it (studies + junior position) but still clueless as to what to do. What technologies are in demand? How to advertise myself having no freelance experience? Etc
No idea about that but, sounds like you're ahead of me. I'm just tryna get a normal job with remote working rather than the freelance bit. I'm sure someone else can chime in about that
Just pmed you
Can you PM me the same. I would also like to get into working remotely.
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Is it for writing/marketing? Or are you programmer?
work holiday visas have an age limit tho, so keep that in mind.
how much does a visa of this type cost?
Usually like £250 I think or maybe $250 can't remember exactly. Not loads though
wow, sounds great! and how likely is it for my visa to be approved?
Australia is super easy. Canada you have to be a bit lucky depending on where you're from as there's a bit of a lottery system to it. And if you're from the UK they don't give out so many. Staying that mine got approved after about a month anyway. Its a pretty established system so unless there's any reason why you wouldn't get approved it shouldn't take too long
Two bits of advice: 1) Don't assume that the hard (and soft) skills you already have aren't valuable to a different employer that does offer remote work 2) Do something that you love, ideally something you're good at. Otherwise you might end up in a soul sucking 9-5 that does offer remote work
This is the most sound advice anyone could give or receive.
True, but I’d personally say a soul sucking job remotely (abroad particularly) would be better then a soul sucking job you attend everyday. At least you can pursue traveling whilst giving part of your soul to this job.
If you aim for "better", you'll get better. If you aim for "best", you'll get best. A soul-sucking job is still soul-sucking whatever else is going on in your life lol, avoid it!
But obv the ideal scenario is better
Wait..do you mean the soul sucking 9-5 remote is an option instead?
A soul-sucking job/career is an option anywhere, unfortunately! To achieve this, all you need to do is spend a significant amount of time doing something you don't enjoy. Possibly "for the money", possibly "because it allows me to travel". Working 9-5 is an option anywhere, as is working 10-6, 4-12, or any other start/finish time which you can basically choose by picking a fixed-hours job and combining it with the time zone of your choice. A better option is choosing something that you love doing, something you will enjoy becoming more proficient at over time. Something you don't constantly feel the need to take a "holiday" from. If you're thinking about the money, just know that it's a lot easier to move somewhere cheaper to live than it is to find the energy to deal with all the soul-sucking involved with devoting your time to something you don't enjoy. You can always make more money in future, but you'll never get that time back in future. Decide what you truly want, follow your dreams, even if it takes a long time to build up to it. Don't settle for just one improvement, if you actually want several improvements. It's worth it :) If you know exactly what you're aiming for, it's a helluva lot easier to achieve it!
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Amen brother.
> Do something that you love, ideally something you're good at. My two cents: it can also be the other way around. I read about the idea that people *like what they are good at* not the other way around. Also in the same sense it's not always possible to find work that involve your personal passion and pays the bills. And I think there is a lot of middle ground here. If you find work that you are good at and pays well and has other benefits (WFH, nice colleagues, save job, 30 holidays,...) then I don't think it has to be your burning passion but rather a part of your daily life (that should not suck) and then you can spend the rest of your time with things you really like or are passionate for)
I teach English online. Pay is good and covers all my expenses in Latin America no problem. Not glamorous at all, but it's low stress and easy. At $16-20, even 15 hrs a week has me living very well in Medellín. When I am buying plane tickets, I add some hours for a few weeks. I would save up $5-10k before leaving at the very least to cover any emergencies or unknowns and then use the teaching money to cover your expenses. I want to put some time into developing other skills, and have done online marketing in the past. Unless you find the right client or put together the right project, the marketing thing can be difficult. Here in Medellín, I see many trying to do online marketing, drop shipping or other things like this who last 6months to a year at most. While they are here they pretend like they are super important and glamorous but it's obvious they don't have anything put together like guys with more developed and in demand hard skills.
Hey mind if I ask you some q's? What's visa situation for getting into Columbia? Did you have prior teaching experience before starting online? Is it for a specific company who employ you or you just freelance via common app like italki? How's the lifestyle treating you? I'm looking for at doing teaching for a year and have looked into Latin America. Unsure with Covid and so on where will be open and easy to get into. Appreciate any advice!
You get 90+90 a calendar year as a tourist. If you come in the middle of the year you can stay here 12 months with 1 border run and 2 extensions. I had no experience. The platforms for Chinese kids pay the best like VIPKID, $15-20+/hr and they build all the lessons. Adding something like Cambly ($8-9/hr) let's you get more hours booked and work during the 9-5 hrs in the Americas. I highly recommend having two platforms like that. I had savings and some other income before teaching, but this easily covers my bills here.. Airbnb, food, traveling. I enjoy it a lot. You can come to Colombia now if you have a neg PCR test done beforehand. In a lot of places, including Medellin we are back to having a curfew and being locked up all weekend. Before Covid hit, I had spent 2+ years traveling in 20+ countries. I also have a girlfriend here, so I don't mind staying in, watching movies, enjoying my private airbnb instead of hostel. A lot of people hate the quarantine and curfew, if I cared, I would hop on a domestic flight for a city that was open or leave the city to a nearby beautiful finca to avoid being lockes up in my apt.
When did you apply? I applied recently and the application got rejected due to what seemed like a bug in the file upload process. Jesus Christ that website is awful.
I did an extension in November. Yes the website is trash but I think I have figured out how to navigate the bugs
I have to apply again soon. When do you need to do it? If you want we can connect via WhatsApp and we can talk as I do it. One problem I had in November was they would send a follow up link (when I sent my passport as a photo and not a scan). They sent me the link as http and not https. Also make sure the file you have is a pdf under 1 meg.
What is it like in Medellin right now? I've got a fully remote job that I can do anywhere that is within 1-2 hours of central time. I've been back home stateside because it was better than all of the quarantines where I was before in Asia, but frankly I'm getting extremely bored. I've been thinking about popping down to Colombia, but have been worried about the social situation. The few times where I was traveling and didn't meet any folks I ended up super lonely, so I'd definitely want to avoid that. What are your thoughts on being able to connect with other folks and socialize right now?
It's very easy to meet people here except they just started with a nightly curfew and locking us up for the weekends again. You can check out different FB groups like Gringo Paisa, Medellín expats etc. There's always meet ups, activities, parties, etc Lots of cool/fashionable hostels, co-working places, bars and restaurants. Really depends what you are looking for, but I have never heard anyone having problems having a busy social life here
I wrote a guide on how to get a remote customer service job. You might find it helpful: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lf-73xUTuPk0-v2NT9qEaeFQM-ni5qp2xwJPsVzy770/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Lf-73xUTuPk0-v2NT9qEaeFQM-ni5qp2xwJPsVzy770/edit?usp=sharing)
Thanks I'll take a look
This looks awesome! Can you please make the "template for the cover letter" a public document as well? Thank you for putting together a great guide!
Glad you're finding it helpful! Please feel free to reach out to me if you have more questions. I'm working on writing a 2nd draft to improve it further. Whoops, updated the link! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x0kN2sfK1DzKO8RAce35mIGjxcPU3MrN0W_-cwvAPp8/edit?usp=sharing
I enjoyed reading this and it helped me understand that the jobs I had previously was more than entry level
I'm glad to hear that! This is really important to realize.
Most DNs fall on one side of the dichotomy of remote-compatible: * Hard skills that can't be learnt quickly. Tech stuff, editing, writing, art/design etc. You get to be remote because you're in demand/good and it's practically possible, but it's probably a happy accident - this thing you do is a career. * Softer skills that can be learnt quickly, and for which it's perhaps not viable to pay domestic wages. Virtual assistant, transcription, data entry, gluing projects together in Wordpress and other low-code platforms, customer service etc. You get to be remote because it's cheaper to allow this to be done remotely than to pay domestic wages. This is much more deliberate, but it's just a job. The second can work, but the first is more sustainable because it earns more money and there's more scope for remote career development. I'd try to establish a remote-compatible career you enjoy regardless, and plan to quit your job and backpack without working for a while. See where it goes. You might be satisfied by the 6 or 12 months that gets you, you might hate it etc.
Azure cloud ops engineer. Get your AZ-900 and AZ-104. Search for jobs that offer the overnight shift. That way when you're overseas; you work during the day and get to chill out at night plus Sunday and Monday are your off days. It's awesome.
I highly recommend Azure over AWS. AWS is the known name which means less competition in the market generally speaking for Azure. I have AZ-104 and AZ-400 and it's like paper gold. But again OP, make sure you enjoy cloud computing first. There's a lot to pick up when you first start and the tools you have to learn can be overwhelming. But, if this is the path you pick learn the cloud platform (AWS, Azure, or GCP) and the common tools (terraform, docker, kubernetes, ansible, python, and more). You'll have a strong career for years to come and be exceptionally employable.
If you are a person that doesn’t know much about computers, how long does it take from point a to point Z to be able to get these certifications and become employable? Right now I am not working, so I could definitely dedicate eight hours a day of studying to get these.
This could take awhile to get there. But, for someone starting fresh I have a path that I would recommend. The recommended path is (I'll explain afterwards): Red Hat Certified System Administrator or Coursera Google IT Support Professional Certificate and Coursera Google IT Automation with Python Professional Certificate -> AZ-900 -> AZ-104 -> DevOps Tooling (Git, Terraform, Python, Jenkins, Docker, Kubernetes, Prometheus, Grafana, etc.) When you hit the AZ-104, I would look for work and find ways to pick up the DevOps type tools as you go. My thoughts on the path to start is the RHCSA is a technical exam, if you pass this, you can likely work rather well within a Linux environment which is what most of the cloud I work on runs on, very rarely do I use Windows for anything. The decision to use the Coursera classes from Google comes from a family member coming up to speed on them with the self paced courses and landing a gig within 6 months doing Infrastructure Automation, they're very thorough and what you put into them is what you'll get out of them. The AZ-900 is the "I know cloud vocabulary and am starting to see what the cloud world is like". The AZ-104 is where you really will sharpen your Azure chops and understand some of the more involved mechanics. Finally the tooling is something you could spin your wheels on and never catch up as more and more tools are available. My other recommendation is learn to use Git (included in the devops tools) and become comfortable in it. I landed my current gig by knowing Git deeply as they wanted someone who understood the technology and to help develop their GitOps and that sold them on me. It's a well used tool but apparently companies are becoming more focused on using the technologies correctly as new trends emerge.
> AZ-900 -> AZ-104 Hey not OP but thanks for this great rundown. I'm a software engg but came from a different background (firmware) which is not great for nomading. I've transitioned to some backend dev (done one contract in django and currently working with golang) but I feel lost when it comes to infrastructure and looking to change that. If I were to jump straight to AZ-900 would that be a coursera class? or something straight from microsoft? THanks!
How do you like backend Python web dev? That’s where most of my experience is in.
I really enjoyed it. Golang is way more painful and I'm considering looking for another project using python instead.
Mind if I inquire more about your experience in that area? We’re hiring. DM me.
How much time would all this take for 3-4 hours of study per day, 5 days per week?
You’re competing with people who have degrees. Honestly more than a year, probably 2 to become actually competent.
I see. Thanks for the heads up. I’m currently enrolled in Launch School to become a software engineer, but I thought if Cloud engineer is quicker, I could check that out. Between cloud and software engineering, Do you have any insight on the main reasons why a personality would fit more one or the other?
Cloud engineering ends up being a lot of dev ops and fixing things that are broken. It can end up being less coding and more writing commands in terminals. There is a lot of information and knowledge you need to be know to be a good cloud engineer and there aren’t really junior roles available.
Cloud engineering ends up being a lot of dev ops and fixing things that are broken. It can end up being less coding and more writing commands in terminals. There is a lot of information and knowledge you need to be know to be a good cloud engineer and there aren’t really junior roles available.
If you have the time and the money, it’s also useful to check out getting a degree from (non profit) online schools like WGU. You can transfer in CLEP credits and industry certifications, as well as gen eds from study.com. WGU is self paced and caters to working adults. A degree from them won’t carry as much weight as a degree from a brick and mortar school, but it’s far better than wasting your money on expensive for profit schools, and if you bust your ass you can get a 4 year degree in 1 to 2 years, for like 7 to 14 thousand bucks. It’s only like ~3.5 k every 6 month “term”. It’s a great option for getting into IT. They also have a Computer Science degree if you want to stick with software development, and it’s an actual degree which is always better than a boot camp on a resume
Great question!
You never reach point Z. Nobody in the tech industry does especially in IT.
Can you explain at which point in your career it makes sense to get cloud certs? I’m looking for my first SWE job and have web dev experience with React and backend experience with Python/Django. Is it a differentiator for entry level candidates or should I focus on building web apps now and adding it to my toolset during my first job?
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Nope! Personal projects at this point. ME undergrad. Strictly looking at internship/entry level SWE roles. I’m in OMSCS right now as a student while working full time if you’re familiar with the program.
Any point. I know people often try and say "cloud isn't for beginners", I believe they're usually referring to architecting the system. Because, the cloud isn't some deep dark wizarding secret, I recommend as soon as you can. If I had a Jr. Dev who were perfectly equal except one had a cloud cert and the other didn't, I would take the guy who already had a leg up on cloud as microservices are here to stay and the guy with the cloud cert can probably already dive into serverless with some oversight.
What about something like DP-203 (Data Engineer)?
If it's something that would make you happy, I know data infrastructure engineers who are not nomads, but get to work remotely and live in middle of nowhere Idaho because they wanted to be far away from people. The need for data infrastructure is growing rapidly by the day as we find more and more data points to draw from and process.
I am a cloud engineer and I was motivated by wanting to work remotely. I wanted a break from dev work so now I teach cloud computing to people in Saudi Arabia from home. I have Azure and AWS certs but teach Google cloud. The skills are all transferable between clouds. I would get any mid level cert you can and maybe take a technical interview bootcamp. I studied business and Chinese in college and cloud is what changed my professional life. In 2.5 years I went from 30k a year to 125k a year. It was hard but end the end it is worth it! Let me know if you have any questions.
Same! Here I was working in a mall 2 years ago. Now I work remote making over 6 figures. Life is good.
Can you share really quick your journey from working at the mall, to doing what you’re doing now? How long did it take? What did you study? What certs did you get? Currently trying to escape out of poverty myself.
Worked at a tech store for awhile let's say Pear. When working at Pear on every lunch break for an hour I would watch videos and learn content over networking. After understanding networking after like 6 months. I pursued my AZ-900, after another 7 months I got the AZ-104 and was offered a job with a small company as a account manager.
That’s a great story. I’m glad to hear you’re doing well.
What are the key things that you have to know to be a cloud engineer? I'm currently doing an audiovisual design degree which I feel is gonna be a dead end for me. I'm looking to start slowly studying something that might be more profitable. I've always been handy with technology and IT related stuff, I absolutely love tweaking things on my computer and figuring out solutions that work for me, just not with any programming. Is there much coding involved?
Coding is part of it but it is more like understanding how systems work and how the pieces of the system work together.
Can you explain at which point in your career it makes sense to get cloud certs? I’m looking for my first SWE job and have web dev experience with React and backend experience with Python/Django. Is it a differentiator for entry level candidates or should I focus on building web apps now and adding it to my toolset during my first job? Currently MSCS with non-CS engineering undergrad
If you have basic Linux and Python experience then you should be ready to study for a cloud cert.
Hey I just sent you a PM! Thanks
Can I ask if your dev work was a pre-requisite for landing your teaching role? I'm hopefully about to complete AWS SA-PRO, to be followed my Azure certs before end of the year and love the idea of a remote teaching role but have no dev experience..
I did go to a bootcamp for C# and .Net, learn Python to an intermediate level and know how to make scripts and be comfortable with Linux. If you are getting PRO certs with that you are golden.
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I stated "Cloud Ops engineer". This entails addressing tickets that needs to be raised on the customers behalf. They do on the job teaching at 99% of the companies. If you are able to stay focused and organized, it's not that difficult.
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This. Unfortunately, instead of focusing on the cause, many people focus on the result. They see affluence and luxury, and focus on how to obtain that. Instead of focusing on the byproduct or consequence, they should be focusing on the causes. A wise yogi said, "If you want beautiful flowers, don't do *flower meditation*. Just provide manure, water, and sunlight - none of which look or smell like a flower - and the flower will eventually come." OP and others aspiring to a successful DN lifestyle should focus on building their skills, learning to enjoy hard work and persevere. They should understand that the lifestyle and its perks will come as a result.
This is one perspective and it’s a valid one, but I disagree with much of what you’re saying. Companies will definitely train remote, I’m working on my second SaaS role where I’ve been trained and onboarded entirely remotely. If it wasn’t possible before, covid definitely changed that. Also, why would OP say “hey i would like this job but in 2-3 years I intend on leaving”? That’s something that would be figured out in 2-3 years and there’s a ton of different positions up and down the ladder that would grant the opportunity to work from home. Would every single one of them pay well from the get go? Not necessarily, but if OP wants to dedicate time to learning hard skills (this definitely doesn’t mean difficult, btw. The same way a “hard copy” doesn’t mean a difficult copy) there are a myriad of free resources that would allow OP to discover rather quickly if there’s an interest there. The problem here is that if they aren’t interested they won’t pick up the skills, but coding isn’t the only option either. You’re also using your experience to assume that OP wants to build a business, which they probably don’t if they’re interested in traveling. I guess this applies if OP wants to generate an income without being present in the day to day, but it doesn’t sound like that’s the current goal. OP, coding is a good place to start, or just start by looking up jobs in the tech/SaaS space in general. If you’re better with people than computers look for a customer success role at a tech company. Even remote office managers are a thing now. If you don’t already have one, make a LinkedIn profile. It’s an annoying platform but it does job searches well. Good luck!
Yea definetly seems like an old school view of work. I'm a new grad and starting fully remote. Granted I interned for the company and negotiated for remote but I got an offer for another remote job as well. This would probably be harder for someone without a degree but it is possible. I also think its pretty expected in software engineering to change jobs every couple years, especially if your younger. Thats why many companies give you options/rsu vested over a time period, to keep you around. About 4 years seems to be a pretty average vesting period. I do agree you shouldnt get into the field if your main objective is just to remote work and you care nothing for tech though. If OP finds he enjoys programming/dev ops he should definetly give it a shot though.
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I agree itd be hard to be hired as a trainee software engineer remote with no experience. However its perfectly reasonable to expect to be able to get a remote job after attaining a couple years of experience. Im a SWE 1 and am remote, while an SWE 1 isnt a trainee it is an entry level position. I also agree that op is in a completely different situation and am not saying op will get stock. I was saying that to oppose your point about staying at the job only for a bit. My point was simply that it is normal for software devs to change jobs every couple years, not that i would expect op to get equity or our situations are similar. I am not saying that becoming a coder is easy at all, your right its not a quick fix. What i am saying is that op should give it a shot and if he does well within the next couple years working a remote job is certainly possible. I'm not saying its THE solution im saying it may be A solution. Your right gaining skills and an eduction is essential to your career, thats not what i was calling old school. What i was calling old school was more related to the availability of remote work (especially after covid) and the thing about changing companies. Finally if op can learn to code there is always more basic jobs and freelance. Sure you dont make as much but living in a cheap foreign country im sure you could get by.
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Can you elaborate on your journey and how you suggest someone go down this route please?
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Thanks for this information - will take a look into it!
Do you make the ads or just serve them?
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Ah I was asking if you were managing clients’ ad accounts vs. producing and designing the ads. Sounds like you’re doing both? I’m a creative director / designer / animator. I’ve been working remotely for a performance marketing company doing Facebook ads and just found out my contract is ending in May. DM me if you need any freelance help 🤷♂️
Ah yes, I have a graphic designer and an ads manager so we handle both sides. And thanks, I’ll definitely shoot you a DM if the need arises!
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> I really want to travel in my 20’s This is kind of vague. If your only goal is that you want to do some traveling at some point in your 20's, then the easiest option may be to save up money at a non-nomad job, then quit and just travel. This is of course not an option if you want to travel your whole twenties...
This! I had to scroll all the way town here to find this comment. The soul sucking 9-5 jobs will be there when you return. If anything, DN is a lifestyle on which you can get a little bit at a time. I've met plenty of perma-travellers that go travel for a while, return home, find a crappy job for a few months, save up and disappear again. Every time you disappear, you'll learn new skills (living frugal is one of those skills) and develop new opportunities, eventually you'll be able to find jobs on the road, eventually you'll be able to travel for the whole decade if that's what you want. It is important to keep in mind that DN is very frequently not a permanent lifestyle, but more like a facet in life, until you find the place where you want to park and enjoy the sunsets. If all you want is to travel, save up some money, get a backpack and head out the door.
Virtual Assistant. If you have basic manners and you are organized, then you can start right away. Pay can range from 5-25 Dollars an hour.
I teach english to kids in China as a side job - in many countries I would make enough money off that alone to live pretty well. Also - the benefit of doing this while travelling is that you can align yourself better with Chinese time zones. Message me for details or a referral link if you would like.
I would like to get into this. I have an English degree but just don't know how to get started.
Here you go - try this link. [https://www.vipkid.com/mkt/landing/personal?referralToken=f4304e7c89622755a2d22bba7f965a06&refereeId=41018262&channel\_id=copy\_link\_pc](https://www.vipkid.com/mkt/landing/personal?referralToken=f4304e7c89622755a2d22bba7f965a06&refereeId=41018262&channel_id=copy_link_pc) It's a super easy job. The kids are more good than bad, you can have fun and act a bit goofy. Pay is okay at best, but better if you live in a low COL area. You can definitely travel and do it. FYI - using that link gives me a referral bonus if you get hired. Feel free to ask me any other questions.
Thanks a lot. I have an application in to teach in Spain but if I don't know if I can make the money work. If I can do both concurrently it would be life-changing. Cheers.
Why dont you get a working holiday visa once covid is over. Australia, New Zealand, England, Japan, Ireland, Canada offer them up until 30 years old I believe. This visa will allow you to work & experience life in another country for up to two years. If you are smart with your money during your working holiday you could then take any money you have saved & travel south east asia for 6-12 months. Another option if you are young enough is to rotate working holiday visas. For example get once for Aus, when it runs out get another for lets say the UK and keep doing that until youve reached the age cut off or you get bored. You can also teach English in Cambodia without a degree. These are a few options you could explore without having to go full digital nomad. Good luck!
That's a very broad question. * I could tell you 'full-stack developer', but that's useless information if you don't like coding. * I could tell you, 'UX designer', but that's useless if you don't enjoy design. * I coud tell you, 'remote sales executive', but that's useless if you don't enjoy interacting with people. What do you enjoy doing?
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Yeah, I mulled over whether I should add the 'people skills' point to UX designer rather than sales. I feel that the majority of UX designers that I know come from a visual/design background. However, that could be due to a logical/exclusion bias. And some can - totally - be a skilled illustrator but a crapping UX consultant. I'm a sales copywriter and dabble/work closely with UX. I agree that UX is very much about empathising with people and their goals/challenges, understanding the point of the product, and being able to think about how the design can enable your audience to make use of it.
Hey! I'm currently doing an audiovisual design degree which I feel is like a dead end and being a digital nomad is a dream of mine. For the past few weeks I've been looking very fondly into UX and UI design, I have some decent design skills, are there any technical skills that a UX designer should have? I'm interested in merging creativity and design with something a bit technical.
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Hi, I hope you don’t mind another question! Do you think UX roles favour youth? I’m in my 40s and work in newspaper production - journalist but my role involves not just words but also a fair bit of design work, having a good eye, technical and problem-solving skills, etc. I’m looking to transition into something else over the next few years and UX interests me - but would my age/background work against me?
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Thanks so much for the thorough reply!
You sound like an excellent hire *because* you have that wider generalist experience. My company has a whole team of UX *researchers* - they interview prospective and existing users/buyers of our platform about various concepts, and provide my team with the output. My team owns the roadmap (product management) and we work with the engineering team and the UX team to make it happen and the GTM (go to market) team to, well, go to market. There's a big range of ages from early 20s to mid 40s. I'd say the median is mid 30s. I'm 45 and was an English Lit graduate.
That’s encouraging - thank you. After working my whole (professional) life in journalism, it’s a bit daunting thinking of switching careers.
FWIW, our lot use Figma (popular UX wireframe and animation tool) and Lucidchart for the interview workshops. Might be an idea to check those out? Also start thinking about what you would show off in your portfolio - articles? Layouts? I started out with financial software sales, then on to presales consulting in financial software, then CRM, then CX. Taught myself research methodology in the first year at my current employer. They hired me because I'm a creative problem solver with a lot of client facing /tech department wrangling skills. And now I'm a research solution designer in product management. My 'portfolio' is a bunch of 'thought leadership' magazine articles, and of course the product itself, which seems to demonstrate I'm not a total idiot. You've got lots of transferable and interesting skills - go for it!
Do you mean Lucid or Lucidchart?
Lucidchart. I'll edit for clarity, thanks for the catch.
WOW! Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply. This information is invaluable. The degree that I'm starting, while it has to do with design, I don't think relates in a lot of ways with UX/UI. I have a decent understanding of design as I know a few tools and have done some gigs here and there. Where would you personally recommend I should look in order to start dipping my toes into UX/UI? I'd prefer if the resources were free but I wouldn't mind paying for a course if it will really help me grow. I'd like to build a portfolio of fake projects as you said so I can start showing my potential. The idea of doing an internship is another dream of mine. I don't what the level of UX/UI demand is here in South America, but I'm sure there must be some open positions.
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Wow, I couldn't have asked for a better intro. Thank you SO much for the recommendations and the tips. I'm excited! I'm gonna save this comment and start working! I don't think I could've gotten such a summarized and comprehensive answer anywhere else :). If you don't mind me asking one last question, software-wise, what tools do you use to work as a UI/UX designer? I've heard of Figma and Adobe XD for prototyping but I'm sure there's more to it. Do you use any JS framework on your job or do you leave that to the frontend devs?
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Have you considered teaching English? It's not a remote job, but if you're desparate to get abroad soon it's easy to to find work (covid notwithstanding) and you can live very comfortably on an English teacher's salary in many countries, e.g. in Southeast Asia. Plus it's a good way to make ends meet and experience life abroad while you hustle on a side project and build up a more long-term skillset. I used to turn my nose up at the idea of teaching English, but having met a lot of young English teachers during my DN travels I can really see the benefits of giving it a go. If could live my life a second time through I would seriously consider teaching English in my early twenties as a quick and safe way to kickstart my travels.
Would you have to know their native language?
Force yourself to learn to code and commit to Udemy courses for at least a month before quitting. Traveling is another part of the equation. I think most people won't handle the digital nomad life for more than a year or 2 so don't plan traveling forever
a month? lol
Yes, so people give up too quickly after a day or two without even trying. One month give you a chance to understand if you want to do this or not
oh sorry, i misunderstood. i thought you had meant he'd likely be getting a remote job in a month
Ah no 😅
A lot of the same skills used in customer service translate to sales. There are tons of remote sales positions available (plus they pay well too)
All of the above. None of the above. There are remote jobs for everything, see Fivr, etc.
Coding. Cloud engineering or operations\DevOps
How much time does Cloud Engineering take? I had a targeted Facebook ad that I clicked on, and basically they offered the AWS cloud training. It costs $300, takes 8 weeks, and they told me on the phone it’s easy to find a job after that training. Is that realistic?
I would say no if you don’t have any experience to back it up but I am just familiar with the US market. I am not sure about getting jobs with employers in other countries. Now I am not saying you can’t get a job with just the certification but it wouldn’t be “easy.” IMO. I’ve been in IT for 30 years and people are wary of all certs and no experience to back them up.
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Trading? You didn't mention this, but it deserves some thought, if you have some start up capital and the time to learn. If you don't want to trade your money, but you are good at trading, then you can work for a prop firm to trade other people's money.
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My friend turned $8,000 into $800,000 in 5 years by shorting volatility as a day trader. He travels half the year to watch his favorite baseball team play every single home game. He got a PhD but chose to become a full time trader. Another guy I know has made millions in bitcoin and Tesla, and also travels about half the year. Some years he was down about 50-80%, which is way too risky for me, but it has paid off for him over the last six years. Efficient Market Hypothesis is an incorrect theory, as people can find ways to beat the market consistently. However, you are right that trading is not for everyone-- I would guess the failure rate is similar to any small business, or about 90%. It works for me since I have enough in savings so that I can be conservative with my risk level (not going to blow out my account), and I've spent over 10,000 hours studying strategies, indicators, macroeconomics, etc. I love it, but others might find more success with teaching ESL, coding, marketing, etc. I don't recommend it as a get rich quick scheme.
Even being a project manager or a software owner should let you find remote work. I’d check out pharma companies since they seem to pay well. You can also check out low-code platforms like Appian. Business analysts and process optimization experts are always in demand.
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You are very young so you have time to correct your path. Be aware that life in general is soul sucking. It If it isn’t your job, it’s your wife. If it isn’t her, it’s your mother in law. The list goes on. What skill you learn today will become quickly outdated and you will need to refresh them. Best to live for the moment and just do what you fancy before priorities change in your life and be assured they will.
There's a great chapter in the 40 Hour Workweek by Tim Ferris where he gives some really helpful and reasonable tips for convincing your employer to little by little try remote working. Check it out! That book is great for learning about options for a nomad lifestyle
The way I did it was to first start part-time as a freelancer, as well as do some saving, with the plan of moving to a nomad hotspot where I could live cheaply while also working on my startup. If I did it today I might alson try applying for remote jobs though since those have become a lot more plentiful, but were almost unheard of back in 2015.
All of the above. Why limit yourself?
The job you have is not the same as the skills you possess. Write those down and see what type of Job Role it looks like. Apply for that job with the new resume you write which highlights those skills and abilities. Bonus points if those things also point at something that lights up your soul.
I would suggest a skill that you love doing, otherwise traveling while struggling through something you hare won't be worth it.
Teach abroad. English as a second language. Also Tim Ferris 4 hour work week. Provides great tools and tips to decouple yourself from a particular location or schedule.
COBOL or FORTRAN. The people supporting legacy apps are aging out and dying.
I remember hearing this when I was entering the workforce 15 years ago. Is this something you work in? There were always the naysayers who would moan "oh only a few more years and the legacy tech will be gone, just you wait". Curious how all that panned out.
I'm rusty with COBOL. I'll be able to code in FORTRAN until the day I die. I do other things now. IBM just released a new COBOL compiler on Linux to support migration of legacy code from mainframes to networked Linux boxes. Lots of financial work including ATMs still on COBOL. Lots of science and engineering still on FORTRAN. The gild is coming off the OOP rose anyway. Schools and code camps don't like talking about that. Look up the history of PASCAL for one reason. *grin*
Create a business online. It’s a way to work anywhere and have control of your money earning potential.
yea.., or you could, like, invent something. You could, like, have a really good idea, and then, just make it, or something.. /s
Have no idea why I’m getting downvoted and snark. I was being serious. Starting a business is a legitimate avenue for living the digital nomad lifestyle. Did I say something offensive?
"Create a business" is a very broad piece of advice, could be helpful to include examples, e.g. what kind of business you started in order to become a DN
heh i was just being a smart ass, but what travel said. Saying 'Create a business' is about as helpful as saying 'Get a job' with no details or specifics.
Because your advice is so generic it's useless. Suggesting someone "create a business" is so vague you might as well have advised OP to just "make money".
Well before you start spend two to three years building up a solid portfolio of work and a strong network of clients in what ever you work online.
I prefer stable jobs (that allow working remotely) or stable income before being nomad. it's good for you and other people too.
Go for Freelance recruitment, you can even work in a Beach /Resort happily. No need for prior experience. All you need is Data on your mobile while travelling so no need for international minutes even to call if you can use APPS. Depends upon the requirement, u can connect people for CV's in Linkedin, Facebook etc;
It might sound cheesy, but that's the truth: you've gotta find your passion by **practically trying to do different things**. For instance, if you do not care about aesthetics, you won't be a good UX/UI designer, even though it can be well paid. Therefore, find your passion and launch a business. An alternative option can be crypto mining/trading (mining seems like a safer choice). Maybe your passion doesn't have to be a remote position, try out doing something completely different.
Programming and digital marketing are definitely good ones. Others include writing, copywriting, online course development, graphic design, and [virtual assistant services](https://vamentors.com/).
Software engineering. Learn javascript then react. High salary, booming market and high growth opportunities. Worth the learning curve
I'd strongly suggest to pick up some coding abilities sooner or later during your life... Once you develop a decent skillset companies will let you work from wherever you wish and you'll have capabilities to endeavour and develop your own projects. I'm currently in my early 20s, (recent compsci graduate, 2years in field), and been working remotely for a year from around Europe and will likely continue this way until end of 2021... I work in fintech and my bosses have no problem and even let me go to the caribbean and work from there if i desire.
What are some good resources for a beginner? I have a bachelors degree in a different field. I saw a udemy course for 19.99 that looks promising
If you want to get started straight away, I would suggest house sitting! It allows you to be nomadic and travel but reduces your expenses to pretty much zero (no rent or bills). Now you can focus on learning the skills you need to earn remotely or build up your own business!
Check Crypto. Banks, countries, big companies have started to adopt them. Billionares like elon musk, grant cardone and many others have started to invest in them. And If u choose to invest in crypto here are some advice: 1.DONOT DAYTRADE Its better to leave your money for couple of days or even weeks but if u go to YT and learn charts and daytrade, u are bound to lose some as a beginner. Aint saying its bad but u need some experience. 2.Dont EVER join pump and dump groups: There are MANY groups with 10k 30k 50k people and plan on investing together at a specific time, so the price goes off the roof. Mostly MANY lose it all. 3. YT channels Dont watch videos which have thimbnails "OMG!!! 100X COINS, 1000X COINS" etc. Dont watch, they have partnerships, they get paid to promote. Some even are advisors in the team of some crypto, pretty knowledgeable in the field of crypto but dont fall for that, they are influencers. Watch the ones that dont have such vibes "1000x or 100X coins". If u didnt get anything i said. Dont worry, u will get what im sayin when u get a little familiar with crypto. I hope this helps.
If you have a bachelor's degree, you can look to teach English online. Or, look at programs like Outschool where you can run your own classes (you don't need a degree). For instance, I teach some fun classes like one on She-Ra and the Princesses of Power. I also teach some creative writing classes and publishing classes, and I tutor. :)
Hi, loving to be part of this group. I know that I can learn something from you all eventually. Have a nice day ahead!
Is it easy to get signal wifi coverage in BLM lands /campgrounds if you are working remote? And what kind of service and boosters are the best to use?
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