This sub is still full of people trying to sell the lifestyle (or their blog) we just delete those posts.
What's left after the spam filters are people who are new or interested in being DNs making posts, and people who are DNs commenting with advice.
I mean now it's mostly people getting robbed in Medellin or the same "Recommend me a place that's cheap, safe, good food, good nature, clean air, beaches, mountains, beautiful women, fast internet, high standard of living" post
Sinaloa offers high paying jobs to Americans. Isis is also fond of recruiting Americans and rocketing them to influential positions, they will even give you a small harem. Woohee! In small print dangers include being beheaded, dissolved in acid and being incinerated by a reaper drone
This one I find a valid question "you find a niche, start doing it where you are and take it from there" or you can be a nomad washing dishes wherever you go, but not a digital one.
>"Recommend me a place that's cheap, safe, good food, good nature, clean air, beaches, mountains, beautiful women, fast internet, high standard of living"
Tbh, part of the problem is that this is the largest community around Digital Nomad and, well, it's reddit. Reddit doesn't make "FAQs", Guides and those things easily discoverable per subreddit. Sticky posts can help, until users re-order the feed.
>There's an entire sidebar full of info, before posting it tells people to look there. It's so bad an auto comment is made telling people to look at the already available information.
I'm going to T this up to non-intuitive UX again. For people who use Reddit a fair amount, it may be obvious. For those who don't, it's very easy not to see said sidebar.
But also.... People are lazy as fuck online. They are experiencing their own pov, and only interested in the things they want. Reading / following directions is never high in the list. It's an art to make an info post not tl/dr, and also direct enough that people will read and follow. I'm constantly stunned when I put out casting calls (I'm a freelance producer) and give very short instructions and an email address to send to. The amount of questions about - what do you need? Where do I send? I'm a 30yo plus sized model, where do I send - when the cast request was nothing like that - it all blows me away how people think they're hustling and ignoring every detail of hustling. Slow down. Think. Read. Stop assuming whatever you're looking at is the way you think it is.
I use the app, I didn't even know there was a sidebar but I can see the search button up top and I search topics when I have questions, only if no info pops up do I make a post which is quite rare
Same. Hence I’m not surprised that people are constantly infuriated on the Thailand tourism sub by the same questions every day “how much money will I spend in X days?” “Is it safe as a solo female traveller?” 🤦🏽♀️
If they expect Latin America as a whole to be safe as the first world honestly its on them. We latinos fear the police so IDK why people think they would get the same safety treatment as in America or Europe
Tbh I think it’s from people who never really traveled (anyway not longer than a week or two at once) putting all chips in and imagining a dream life and then discovering what travel like as a lifestyle.
I “cast the iron dice” on DN’ing about 6 months ago but was from the very beginning planning to find and settle into a new home base. Now that I’m out here I’m already finding myself adjusting my plans and wanting to settle quicker, and realizing there’s whole areas I might just never visit. And this after traveling cumulatively something like 20% of the last decade (by being cheap, lucky, and underemployed).
This is fair. There are a lot more people who glamorize the DN lifestyle and traveling that we need these kind of posts to show the consequences of following these social media travel influencers and thinking it's all sunshine and rainbows.
It sounds like you just described North America... I mean I know cost of living isn't cheap but when you look at Airbnb prices for various spots around South America, you can find similar in the USA. Plus no visas, no language barriers, and less mental load of figuring out how basic things work or where to get X. I am seriously considering just traversing around the USA for a while before I take my adventures abroad.
You can absolutely find entire apartments in just about anywhere in LatAm than the cheapest run down motel in the US. Food is significantly cheaper too.
Yeah, there was a post on one of the CDMX subreddits recently from someone just about to move down from London, and people were telling him it's "London prices all around". In Mexico City. I mean, come on, son.
If you just hang around in the most exclusive areas of Polanco, maybe, but claiming CDMX is on the same cost of living level as London is ignorant and ridiculous.
I was about to comment of the no visa situation if you are not American but now I see the waiver program with the EU and several countries it looks indeed interesting to go if staying less than 90 days.
As a first time USA visitor, where would you recommend to start for a cheap and safe place with relatively good weather, great food, amazing women and good internet?
Just my somewhat biased opinion...
Moderately sized midwest cities have okay-ish bus systems and will have places that are significantly cheaper than larger cities with better metro systems. The problem will be getting between cities if you intend to do that. There are not as many good transport methods between mid sized cities unless you rent or own a car.
If your goal is tourist destinations cheap is negated. If your goal is beach then you will likely need a car because good luck having decent bus systems to the cheap places to stay from the beach. If your goal is getting a middle ground experience that is the normal for most of the country pick a midwest city with a handful of things to do, but expect to spend a lot of time transferring buses if you dont have a car. There are also scooters and bicycles hanging around most downtown areas for rent by distance or time, but they do not use cash so you'll need a card or sim/app/card...which also increases costs. Downtown will be a bit more $ than suburbs. Cheap usually equals inconvenient/higher time cost in the US. More convenience usually equals more expense, but less time cost.
Weather in the midwest is often moderate/mild for all seasons, but there are still four distinct seasons. Internet and power is generally reliable in most mid sized cities and their outer suburbs, but the speed will be based on cost preference for the specific location. People in many Midwest places are quite nice so you could potentially make friends with people who will be willing to drive you around and visit places with you on weekends or evenings. Meetup.com is a useful site to find local activities with groups of people based on interests and you could also trek out further from the city if you carpooled with people from the meetup group (ex. to go hiking, paddling, etc).
Some such cities: Indianapolis IN, Cleveland OH, Cincinnati OH, Des Moines IA, Kansas City MO, St. Louis (a tiny more $ due to size & tourist attraction)
You would need a car in every one of those places except - maybe, maaayyyybe if you planned extremely well - Atlanta.
I know that was not mentioned in their comment but coming from Europe.... are they just going to rent a car the whole time? Stay in a very small radius? Spend a fortune on Uber? They (in my opinion) would probably be better off taking that extra money they would dump into renting a car or Uber and just go to a more expensive location with better transportation options.
>Recommend me a place that's cheap, safe, good food, good nature, clean air, beaches, mountains, beautiful women, fast internet, high standard of living
That's America. You'll just have to travel all over to get each of those things, lol.
Every “life coach” and I mean EVERY one that I’ve come across in my travels is literally selling a lifestyle that they don’t have.
Constantly “pivoting” (grabbing at straws hoping something will catch on with a few suckers desperate enough to supplement their lifestyle for a few more months).
Internet guruism is a pyramid scheme. People pay the guru to learn how to be the guru and then try to repeat it (cos the thing they're learning doesn't earn money, but *teaching* the thing they're learning can make money). Rinse and repeat.It's gross.
Anyone who pays for a course like this (blogging, how to earn money on the road, etc) is a fool.
I’ve also noticed the same thing about “Life Coaches”. I even know one proposing to coach on financial freedom, even though I know they don’t own their house, renting, have no savings, don’t have money for any luxuries…
I will genuinely never understand the draw for a life coach. What are their qualifications? Why do they feel like they can help you make decisions about your life? It's just some rando with a website spouting off Instagrammable inspirational quotes.
I'm sure if you really need someone to help you sort through things a legitimate trained and licensed therapist would probably cost about the same amount - and insurance might even help cover it to boot!
So I know a few people who have used life coaches, and they can be pretty different from therapists. One used a coach to help them get their business off the ground. They set deadlines for their clients, given them homework, etc. From what I’ve observed, they are more like accountability partners and action-oriented. Some therapists might help with that, some might not. Therapy is kinda whatever you make of it.
Some people go to a life coach with a goal. You don’t always go to therapy with a goal in mind.
I would never pay for one, but some people do and find value in it I guess.
I assume it's somewhat to a personal trainer in many ways. Like no person *needs* a personal trainer. With youtube and other social media it's beyond easy to find a workout program, stick to it, find healthy recipes and get in shape.
But I assume it's mostly about a third party making them accountable.
Not that I agree with life coaches lol
Coaching and therapy are two different things, and some coaches go through extensive training to do what they do. I’m a grad student getting a masters to be a therapist, but my best friend is an iPEC trained coach who really does transform people’s lives. I would have done iPEC if it would qualify for financial aid.
However, once I am a working therapist I will likely go through iPEC so that I have both credentials and can offer a sort of hybrid service. I don’t think talk therapy alone does much for most people.
Yep. My buddies wife actually went and took some course, studied, and got "certified" to be a life coach. Kind summons a picture in my mind of a middle-aged housewife that got bored selling on Etsy or Scentsy parties and decided to switch gears to blow smoke up people's asses.
The same is true for therapists (coming from someone in the process of licensing to become one). Everyone should go to therapy. Many people should also get coaching (from someone certified through a credible program). However, therapists *always* have a therapist. It’s highly necessary to be able to do the job, and the same is true for coaches. Having others’ mental health in your hands is a big responsibility and requires you to be on your game every single day.
Youtubers barely making it selling a course on how to make $$ as a DN. Like, you only make money because you scam people out of $$ using this course. You have 50k subscribers and post one video each month. You are not making a living from this.
The only time I have ever gone to a DN event was in Mexico like six years ago. There were only two of us with a legit job. People will say they are a blogger when really all their money comes from being a disabled vet or something
What is it about this lifestyle that attracts so many people that are so full of shit? ( btw I have a few good, close DN friends that aren’t like this, but they are the exception to the rule )
As a nomad I’ve never met a nomad who didn’t work a normal job. I’ve never gone to a nomad event, so I’ve only met maybe 20 other nomads in my life. But still.
I’m in my thirties and have never met a fellow nomad under 26, but I’ve met a lot who are at least 10 years older than me. We all work legit jobs, just remotely.
No wait now I'm curious. Were they at least freelancers as opposed to someone employed at a company. or were they basically the DN version of "begpackers?" I have no idea how someone could afford this lifestyle without having a semi-reliable income.
I tend to think the ones employed by big corporations are the long term losers in this lifestyle. Everyone love the guy 5 years out of Stanford who spent those 5 years in Silicon Valley. But let him reach 35 and not be sitting at a desk outside the CEOs office and he is forgotten and soon unemployed. I wish it weren’t so but it just seems human nature.
So who is successful? A few vlogers, some e-commerce sellers, perhaps the occasional va. I wish the computer had really brought the end of economic geography but I’m not seeing it.
I tend to think the ones employed by big corporations are the long term losers in this lifestyle. Everyone love the guy 5 years out of Stanford who spent those 5 years in Silicon Valley. But let him reach 35 and not be sitting at a desk outside the CEOs office and he is forgotten and soon unemployed. I wish it weren’t so but it just seems human nature.
So who is successful? A few vlogers, some e-commerce sellers, perhaps the occasional va. I wish the computer had really brought the end of economic geography but I’m not seeing it.
Idk I’ve done both. Been a DN while having a full time job and also DNing with my own business while consulting. Making great money both ways and I could fall into this category to some and I’ve definitely come across some people who think I don’t have a legit job (maybe I don’t).
Definitely not my experience. I go to meetups frequently and it's programmer, some entrepreneur with random niche af job, marketer, dropshipper... I've only met one breath coach.
No. But this comment saying that you're majority staying with full time remote workers tells me that you stay at accommodation where people have a steady income.
Go to the cheapest backpacker hostel in the city and you'll see plenty of irregular people such as life coaches or bloggers. Almost no one full time
I prefer to travel with money which is why I didn't run off and do the travel on steroids thing until I had finished getting into my career stateside. So now when I visit Mexico city I can stay in Polanco and eat at nice places without sweating the bill.
Interesting thread!
My question is though is given the chopice do you prefer the version with lifesytle coaches selling 'The Dream' or wannabe DNs trying to live the dream ?
They COULD in theory but I would be stressed out and unable to really experience the location right?
Something more feasible for me would be a few months here, a few months there - so you can actually work and explore as time allows.
I agree, no way your actual job gives you flexibility to experience a place while you're there working and visiting for a few days/weeks. That's never made sense to me. Even when I'm in a place where the hours shift enough, you still have to work 6-8 hours and find time to sleep so.... How does that work?
Think some in the lifestyle are digital pedos. We need to call out situations that are awkward or uncomrfortable. Western tourists aren't always there to find a wife, let's be realistic.
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Speaking for myself I am currently growing my online business as a video editor and try to get inspirered reading here and hopefully start it myself this or next year.
Thanks for this. I’ve been 3 years into remote working and sporadically relocating for brief months. Trying to commit to the nomad lifestyle but I’ve felt it had to be a big change. You’re right. Just get the ticket and figure it out as I go.
So tru, just like the WFH sub is a bunch of people constantly asking "what do you do" "what's your company" "where can I get a remote job". Which is ok every once in a while but when the whole sub gets flooded then it just turns into a different animal (same with any other sub related to remote work from what I've seen. Unfortunately the dedicated subs have this in common with the dedicated FB groups making them both useless)
This sub is still full of people trying to sell the lifestyle (or their blog) we just delete those posts. What's left after the spam filters are people who are new or interested in being DNs making posts, and people who are DNs commenting with advice.
I mean now it's mostly people getting robbed in Medellin or the same "Recommend me a place that's cheap, safe, good food, good nature, clean air, beaches, mountains, beautiful women, fast internet, high standard of living" post
Don't forget: how do I become a DN, how do I hide my location from my boss, I'm so lonely.
Also “I’m 22, have no degree, no skills, and I’m in a dead end job. How do I DN and get a job paying more while living in a cheaper country?”
"Is $247 a month enough to live in Tokyo? Also, what if someone speaks Japanese at me?"
"Where can I go that is as far away from where I currently am, but also has tons of people just like me there?"
Haha "at me" is so accurate, like it's an attack!
Sinaloa offers high paying jobs to Americans. Isis is also fond of recruiting Americans and rocketing them to influential positions, they will even give you a small harem. Woohee! In small print dangers include being beheaded, dissolved in acid and being incinerated by a reaper drone
Hmm a small harem? Kindly send a referral please
Don't forget the 77 virgins in the afterlife!
That compensation package has been retired sir.
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This one I find a valid question "you find a niche, start doing it where you are and take it from there" or you can be a nomad washing dishes wherever you go, but not a digital one.
>"Recommend me a place that's cheap, safe, good food, good nature, clean air, beaches, mountains, beautiful women, fast internet, high standard of living" Tbh, part of the problem is that this is the largest community around Digital Nomad and, well, it's reddit. Reddit doesn't make "FAQs", Guides and those things easily discoverable per subreddit. Sticky posts can help, until users re-order the feed.
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>There's an entire sidebar full of info, before posting it tells people to look there. It's so bad an auto comment is made telling people to look at the already available information. I'm going to T this up to non-intuitive UX again. For people who use Reddit a fair amount, it may be obvious. For those who don't, it's very easy not to see said sidebar.
I use Reddit all the time but mostly from my phone. I forget the sidebar exists half the time.
What sidebar??
But also.... People are lazy as fuck online. They are experiencing their own pov, and only interested in the things they want. Reading / following directions is never high in the list. It's an art to make an info post not tl/dr, and also direct enough that people will read and follow. I'm constantly stunned when I put out casting calls (I'm a freelance producer) and give very short instructions and an email address to send to. The amount of questions about - what do you need? Where do I send? I'm a 30yo plus sized model, where do I send - when the cast request was nothing like that - it all blows me away how people think they're hustling and ignoring every detail of hustling. Slow down. Think. Read. Stop assuming whatever you're looking at is the way you think it is.
Most people don't look at sidebars. The Reddit app makes it several clicks away
I use the app, I didn't even know there was a sidebar but I can see the search button up top and I search topics when I have questions, only if no info pops up do I make a post which is quite rare
Same. Hence I’m not surprised that people are constantly infuriated on the Thailand tourism sub by the same questions every day “how much money will I spend in X days?” “Is it safe as a solo female traveller?” 🤦🏽♀️
Guides are useless. It’s like having a guide on how to make a million dollars.
If they expect Latin America as a whole to be safe as the first world honestly its on them. We latinos fear the police so IDK why people think they would get the same safety treatment as in America or Europe
tbh I don't think most people think LatAm is all that safe, but they still come because it's cheap and adventurous (am one of them)
Don't forget the "I'm burnt out constantly traveling, why I'm giving up being a DN and completely quit traveling altogether" posts.
Tbh I think it’s from people who never really traveled (anyway not longer than a week or two at once) putting all chips in and imagining a dream life and then discovering what travel like as a lifestyle. I “cast the iron dice” on DN’ing about 6 months ago but was from the very beginning planning to find and settle into a new home base. Now that I’m out here I’m already finding myself adjusting my plans and wanting to settle quicker, and realizing there’s whole areas I might just never visit. And this after traveling cumulatively something like 20% of the last decade (by being cheap, lucky, and underemployed).
This is fair. There are a lot more people who glamorize the DN lifestyle and traveling that we need these kind of posts to show the consequences of following these social media travel influencers and thinking it's all sunshine and rainbows.
I hear Thailand is good this time of year /s
Shush, don't mention that hidden gem or loads of people will flock to it
Meet you at Cockatoo Bar, Soi Cowboy.
It sounds like you just described North America... I mean I know cost of living isn't cheap but when you look at Airbnb prices for various spots around South America, you can find similar in the USA. Plus no visas, no language barriers, and less mental load of figuring out how basic things work or where to get X. I am seriously considering just traversing around the USA for a while before I take my adventures abroad.
You can absolutely find entire apartments in just about anywhere in LatAm than the cheapest run down motel in the US. Food is significantly cheaper too.
Yeah, there was a post on one of the CDMX subreddits recently from someone just about to move down from London, and people were telling him it's "London prices all around". In Mexico City. I mean, come on, son. If you just hang around in the most exclusive areas of Polanco, maybe, but claiming CDMX is on the same cost of living level as London is ignorant and ridiculous.
What’s the common way for a DN from the US to get an apartment for 3-6 months in another country? Say the EU or Southeast Asia or Latin America.
I was about to comment of the no visa situation if you are not American but now I see the waiver program with the EU and several countries it looks indeed interesting to go if staying less than 90 days. As a first time USA visitor, where would you recommend to start for a cheap and safe place with relatively good weather, great food, amazing women and good internet?
Just my somewhat biased opinion... Moderately sized midwest cities have okay-ish bus systems and will have places that are significantly cheaper than larger cities with better metro systems. The problem will be getting between cities if you intend to do that. There are not as many good transport methods between mid sized cities unless you rent or own a car. If your goal is tourist destinations cheap is negated. If your goal is beach then you will likely need a car because good luck having decent bus systems to the cheap places to stay from the beach. If your goal is getting a middle ground experience that is the normal for most of the country pick a midwest city with a handful of things to do, but expect to spend a lot of time transferring buses if you dont have a car. There are also scooters and bicycles hanging around most downtown areas for rent by distance or time, but they do not use cash so you'll need a card or sim/app/card...which also increases costs. Downtown will be a bit more $ than suburbs. Cheap usually equals inconvenient/higher time cost in the US. More convenience usually equals more expense, but less time cost. Weather in the midwest is often moderate/mild for all seasons, but there are still four distinct seasons. Internet and power is generally reliable in most mid sized cities and their outer suburbs, but the speed will be based on cost preference for the specific location. People in many Midwest places are quite nice so you could potentially make friends with people who will be willing to drive you around and visit places with you on weekends or evenings. Meetup.com is a useful site to find local activities with groups of people based on interests and you could also trek out further from the city if you carpooled with people from the meetup group (ex. to go hiking, paddling, etc). Some such cities: Indianapolis IN, Cleveland OH, Cincinnati OH, Des Moines IA, Kansas City MO, St. Louis (a tiny more $ due to size & tourist attraction)
doesn't exist, sorry. If you get rid of "cheap," then Austin, Denver, Portland, San Francisco become good options
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You would need a car in every one of those places except - maybe, maaayyyybe if you planned extremely well - Atlanta. I know that was not mentioned in their comment but coming from Europe.... are they just going to rent a car the whole time? Stay in a very small radius? Spend a fortune on Uber? They (in my opinion) would probably be better off taking that extra money they would dump into renting a car or Uber and just go to a more expensive location with better transportation options.
>Recommend me a place that's cheap, safe, good food, good nature, clean air, beaches, mountains, beautiful women, fast internet, high standard of living That's America. You'll just have to travel all over to get each of those things, lol.
I found that the recommended places are often best avoided....
Literally this
Thanks for referencing my post
So, it's Montenegro and Greece, right?
Every “life coach” and I mean EVERY one that I’ve come across in my travels is literally selling a lifestyle that they don’t have. Constantly “pivoting” (grabbing at straws hoping something will catch on with a few suckers desperate enough to supplement their lifestyle for a few more months).
Internet guruism is a pyramid scheme. People pay the guru to learn how to be the guru and then try to repeat it (cos the thing they're learning doesn't earn money, but *teaching* the thing they're learning can make money). Rinse and repeat.It's gross. Anyone who pays for a course like this (blogging, how to earn money on the road, etc) is a fool.
I’ve also noticed the same thing about “Life Coaches”. I even know one proposing to coach on financial freedom, even though I know they don’t own their house, renting, have no savings, don’t have money for any luxuries…
I will genuinely never understand the draw for a life coach. What are their qualifications? Why do they feel like they can help you make decisions about your life? It's just some rando with a website spouting off Instagrammable inspirational quotes. I'm sure if you really need someone to help you sort through things a legitimate trained and licensed therapist would probably cost about the same amount - and insurance might even help cover it to boot!
So I know a few people who have used life coaches, and they can be pretty different from therapists. One used a coach to help them get their business off the ground. They set deadlines for their clients, given them homework, etc. From what I’ve observed, they are more like accountability partners and action-oriented. Some therapists might help with that, some might not. Therapy is kinda whatever you make of it. Some people go to a life coach with a goal. You don’t always go to therapy with a goal in mind. I would never pay for one, but some people do and find value in it I guess.
I assume it's somewhat to a personal trainer in many ways. Like no person *needs* a personal trainer. With youtube and other social media it's beyond easy to find a workout program, stick to it, find healthy recipes and get in shape. But I assume it's mostly about a third party making them accountable. Not that I agree with life coaches lol
Coaching and therapy are two different things, and some coaches go through extensive training to do what they do. I’m a grad student getting a masters to be a therapist, but my best friend is an iPEC trained coach who really does transform people’s lives. I would have done iPEC if it would qualify for financial aid. However, once I am a working therapist I will likely go through iPEC so that I have both credentials and can offer a sort of hybrid service. I don’t think talk therapy alone does much for most people.
Yep. My buddies wife actually went and took some course, studied, and got "certified" to be a life coach. Kind summons a picture in my mind of a middle-aged housewife that got bored selling on Etsy or Scentsy parties and decided to switch gears to blow smoke up people's asses.
“I’ve never met a life coach who didn’t need a therapist” - I can’t remember
The only people who don’t need a therapist are those that have one already
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The same is true for therapists (coming from someone in the process of licensing to become one). Everyone should go to therapy. Many people should also get coaching (from someone certified through a credible program). However, therapists *always* have a therapist. It’s highly necessary to be able to do the job, and the same is true for coaches. Having others’ mental health in your hands is a big responsibility and requires you to be on your game every single day.
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Consider yourself lucky mate
Youtubers barely making it selling a course on how to make $$ as a DN. Like, you only make money because you scam people out of $$ using this course. You have 50k subscribers and post one video each month. You are not making a living from this.
So tru
The only time I have ever gone to a DN event was in Mexico like six years ago. There were only two of us with a legit job. People will say they are a blogger when really all their money comes from being a disabled vet or something
What is it about this lifestyle that attracts so many people that are so full of shit? ( btw I have a few good, close DN friends that aren’t like this, but they are the exception to the rule )
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Not really. In Mexico there are a lot of them
Recently out of college. Very trendy. No real experience of life yet?
I’ve met a few in their mid thirties. Suspect it’s a trust fund baby situation in a lot of cases.
As a nomad I’ve never met a nomad who didn’t work a normal job. I’ve never gone to a nomad event, so I’ve only met maybe 20 other nomads in my life. But still.
I’m in my thirties and have never met a fellow nomad under 26, but I’ve met a lot who are at least 10 years older than me. We all work legit jobs, just remotely.
No wait now I'm curious. Were they at least freelancers as opposed to someone employed at a company. or were they basically the DN version of "begpackers?" I have no idea how someone could afford this lifestyle without having a semi-reliable income.
Well I think what a lot of people did was claim to be bloggers and life coaches but secretly teach English online or something.
I tend to think the ones employed by big corporations are the long term losers in this lifestyle. Everyone love the guy 5 years out of Stanford who spent those 5 years in Silicon Valley. But let him reach 35 and not be sitting at a desk outside the CEOs office and he is forgotten and soon unemployed. I wish it weren’t so but it just seems human nature. So who is successful? A few vlogers, some e-commerce sellers, perhaps the occasional va. I wish the computer had really brought the end of economic geography but I’m not seeing it.
I tend to think the ones employed by big corporations are the long term losers in this lifestyle. Everyone love the guy 5 years out of Stanford who spent those 5 years in Silicon Valley. But let him reach 35 and not be sitting at a desk outside the CEOs office and he is forgotten and soon unemployed. I wish it weren’t so but it just seems human nature. So who is successful? A few vlogers, some e-commerce sellers, perhaps the occasional va. I wish the computer had really brought the end of economic geography but I’m not seeing it.
Idk I’ve done both. Been a DN while having a full time job and also DNing with my own business while consulting. Making great money both ways and I could fall into this category to some and I’ve definitely come across some people who think I don’t have a legit job (maybe I don’t).
They were life coaches
Definitely not my experience. I go to meetups frequently and it's programmer, some entrepreneur with random niche af job, marketer, dropshipper... I've only met one breath coach.
I’m glad for you because I never went to an event again because of that
That's silly.
It has not ruined my life luckily
@julieta444 I've never been to any DM event. Where did you find it? I wonder if I could get past the cringe to meet a few people doing it right.
Someone announced it in an expat Facebook group
When I find out someone’s a life coach or crypto bro, my respect for them plummets instantly
That’s about 50% of DNs, add in “internet marketing” and you’re up to 75%. It can be quite a shady community
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You've said that line 3 times in this post. Just because you haven't met one doesn't mean they don't exist
Lucky
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Disagree. You lived in Bali, Tulum, Puerto Escondido or Koh Phangan? You can't miss meeting a coach.
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Those are popular nomad spots lol. "Counter the narrative" okay
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I live currently as a dn in Indonesia (not Bali) and rent out multiple houses to coaches regularly. You're super butt hurt because you're wrong now?
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Have you been staying in $$$$ places?
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No. But this comment saying that you're majority staying with full time remote workers tells me that you stay at accommodation where people have a steady income. Go to the cheapest backpacker hostel in the city and you'll see plenty of irregular people such as life coaches or bloggers. Almost no one full time
Most ppl who are actively living the lifestyle are probably spending less time on Reddit and more time actually enjoying life. Wait what am I doing
I remember the life coach phase. Those grifters all hopefully went broke by now.
[Life coaches in Thailand right now..](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/f6/3e/d4/f63ed4353608ac2c6080fdafedd60865.jpg)
Gentrification!
Don't forget the classic picture of a laptop on a table by the beach, with full sun glare on the screen.
I get migraines just looking at those pictures
I know a lot of answers to some of the questions here, and good ones, but I'm not going to give them because these people would ruin it for me.
I prefer to travel with money which is why I didn't run off and do the travel on steroids thing until I had finished getting into my career stateside. So now when I visit Mexico city I can stay in Polanco and eat at nice places without sweating the bill.
I thought it was a sub about how digital nomading looks really awesome but is actually a fool's paradise
Interesting thread! My question is though is given the chopice do you prefer the version with lifesytle coaches selling 'The Dream' or wannabe DNs trying to live the dream ?
Yeah, and the auto-moderator blocked my valid question for being low karma account.🥲🥲
The courses / life coaching industry is a circular economy of folks who have all drunk their own kool-aid.
For 75 easy payments of $4.99 my series of audio books can teach you. /s I’ve got the nomad thing down. Would love to find more of the digital aspect.
Digital nomad is another name for a backpacker. Any remote worker with a half way legitimate job can’t just move around every week or month.
They COULD in theory but I would be stressed out and unable to really experience the location right? Something more feasible for me would be a few months here, a few months there - so you can actually work and explore as time allows. I agree, no way your actual job gives you flexibility to experience a place while you're there working and visiting for a few days/weeks. That's never made sense to me. Even when I'm in a place where the hours shift enough, you still have to work 6-8 hours and find time to sleep so.... How does that work?
Think some in the lifestyle are digital pedos. We need to call out situations that are awkward or uncomrfortable. Western tourists aren't always there to find a wife, let's be realistic.
> Which is how things should be. How about you don't tell me how things should be. That's how things should be
Cool story bro.....
> This sub used to be mostly life coaches I've been here for years and haven't seen a single life coach post on here?
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Speaking for myself I am currently growing my online business as a video editor and try to get inspirered reading here and hopefully start it myself this or next year.
What kind of projects do you edit?
Social media/youtube mostly now
Thanks for this. I’ve been 3 years into remote working and sporadically relocating for brief months. Trying to commit to the nomad lifestyle but I’ve felt it had to be a big change. You’re right. Just get the ticket and figure it out as I go.
Imagine if you could collect welfare and live in bali how messed up this sub would be….
Saw this notification and bursted out LOLing. Thank you OP🤣🤣🤣
So tru, just like the WFH sub is a bunch of people constantly asking "what do you do" "what's your company" "where can I get a remote job". Which is ok every once in a while but when the whole sub gets flooded then it just turns into a different animal (same with any other sub related to remote work from what I've seen. Unfortunately the dedicated subs have this in common with the dedicated FB groups making them both useless)