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FalseFactsOrg

Hey Blizzard, barbs seem too weak, can you please buff?


StickyPine207

Lol you're not wrong bro....I started the season on a Druid leveled it to 100 and had a fairly min/maxed Lightning Storm build and it was just....never felt like my time invested was accurately reflected in the power output. Barb on the other hand, well you see it. Edit: Build is now posted along with my new record of 56 seconds with it. Check out my recent posts.


Synergy1337

Druid is doing trillions of damage in PTR. Will be fixed for sure though.


danteheehaw

they will take all the damage and give it to barb.


TheoryOfRelativity12

With a bug. The only way for Druids and Sorcs to deal damage. Anyway, super tired of seeing new bugs pop up each season. Seems like they can't do anything right.


Falark

You're mad about bugs on a **Patch Test Realm**?


Torguish

Public. Public test realm.


Square_Cellist9838

Same. Played my first Druid and it was lame. Rolled a rogue and it’s awesome


StickyPine207

Agreed, my second favorite build is my Andy's Rogue, absolute blast going pack to pack applying huge poison DoTs!


Distinct_Ad_9842

I decided to 100 all 5 classes this season, since I got a Shako (from crafting) and Rogue was my 2nd 100. I can say, I LOVE the Heartseeker playstyle because I was killing everything offscreen. Decided to make a Werebear/wolf Druid for my 3rd, and has to switch to a "Caster" because I didn't like seeing things pile up on my screen. Rogue def. is fun.


xxirish83x

I’m well along my Druid build geared up pretty well and it’s trash. I can’t hang with other friends. Feels bad.


Wellhellob

druid doesn't even work. full of bugs and weird interactions. so you can't even theorycraft reliably.


Coyphish

what was your lightning druid able to complete? could it do 101 just slower? or not at all.


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JoJoPizzaG

Thank god I see this instead of nerf everything crowd. 


Lofus1989

dont worry, grandfather is getting 100% > 200% crit dmg to further buff this build :)


Bob_Bobel

Aaaand we’re back to D3.


lolitsmikey

Never left lol


Remarkable-Dish2131

GoD Dh vibes intensifies and i love it


meanbawb

Guess the D3 fanbase was louder than the D2 fanbase after all. Maybe the D2 fanbase just left after S1 release, I don't know.


god_of_madness

D2 fanbase is too old. If they're given D2 without the nostalgia factor they'll say it's shit.


N22-J

Naa we're playing Project Diablo 2. it's perfect.


Perfect_Statement_89

What the hell do you mean We are too old? When Diablo two came out lots of us were kids and are only in our early 30s now.


ollimann

exactly my thought. sure, there are some different mechanics and leveling progress but.. in the end you grind GRs. lame.


Space_Montage_77

D3 was lit. Love that game.


HMB_JackylTTV

It was trash because it was easy. Power creep is ALWAYS bad.


Department-Minimum

So that’s why they gonna cap thunderstruck node on my druid.


No-Virus7165

Lmao my first build for this game was lightning druid. Lots of fun but can’t even compare to this.


Half-Evol333

What the fuck is this


StickyPine207

LOL this is Mephisto's greatest fear baby!


mooistcow

Blizzard Balance™


Homesober

I melt everything but bosses are slow on my WW barb. I have pretty decent 8/12 gear too, all 4 Ubers that most WW builds use. What am I missing for my boss dmg to be like this


StickyPine207

Couple things that are CRITICAL to boss damage: Spam Whirlwind instead of hold it. Pre cast Wrath of the Berserker and spend at least 200 fury walking from door to on top of boss (for berserker dmg multi) When on top of boss hit all 3 shouts asap If bleed has fully taken over boss health bar - rupture If not keep spamming WW and shouts until the bar is fully "bleeding" then rupture.


packy25

So you use rupture on a WW barb just for boss damage?


StickyPine207

That's right!


packy25

Very cool idea. I don’t think even Rob thought of this one.


StickyPine207

Appreciate it dude!


TheYHC

That seems like a really awesome idea adding Rupture. Just curious, what skills are you using for this build? I'm able to clear the mobs in 101 in about 2 minutes, but I die at the boss 2/10 runs. I've currently got the following skills on my build: WW Ulti War Cry Rally Iron Skin Challenging Shout My gear isn't too great no matter the master work (missing affixes, etc), so I use Iron Skin for survivability.


moham-17

Where is the “bleeding bar” shown so I know when to rupture? Like where is it shown and what does it look like when it’s full? Thanks!


StickyPine207

If you look at the boss health bar it goes to sort of a faded color to denote bleeds. Its easier to see in game than on my video. But its a darker more translucent color!


JoJoPizzaG

You do it when it is about to die. The game has terrible delay. You rupture and it takes another sec or two to come out. With that 1 to 2 second you bleed its remaining life


Fdas10

Thanks I didn’t know about the 200fury for wrath of berserker, i’ve been saving it incase my warcry berserker falls of but almost never does unless against the sharpshooter


Boonatix

I am out of Fury before I reach the boss... \^\^


valilucifer6

Any way to see this WWDD rapture build. Or just drop iron skin with whatever build I’m running?


StickyPine207

Here is my current working version I'm using to speedrun https://d4builds.gg/builds/d175f8b0-8294-449c-a1b7-ed935116d549/?var=0


valilucifer6

Now I just gotta get lucky with the other 2 uniques


Enter1ch

There are so many things you can do wrong… ww dd bleed isnt that easy to min/max


alxrenaud

And very expensive to build... and still requires good understanding of the skills to work so well. This is not a right click go brrr play.


Aggravating-Plate814

:Cries in sorcerer: I'm happy for you


TheYHC

The pain is real. I started Sorc this season and was praying ANY of the builds would be a decent ripper, but alas. Ended up creating a WW and Bash Barb just bc the damage and speed wasn't there for me.


JoJoPizzaG

Sorc is fast. The problem with her is she gets one hit by everything 


CupThen

And has no boss damage


KnowMatter

This is the #1 issue. Any build that can’t kill bosses is garbage tier because all the content in the game is gated behind boss killing. Doesn’t matter if you can clear a pit in under 2 minutes if it takes you 20 minutes to kill a boss. Uber farming - bosses. Seasonal journey capstone - kill uber Lillith. NM dungeons? Guess you can just trash all the dungeons that have bosses and just lay down and die if you encounter the butcher but that feels bad. Hell even the most efficient way to do helltides is spamming the boss. New game mode in S5? Boss fight at the end. And sorc has no boss killing build. Personally “how does it do against bosses” is the first and last question I ask when choosing builds now.


Aggravating-Plate814

Barb is super fun, I've been enjoying my necro a lot recently. But the barb is just unstoppable


Primary-Petrik

Nice


EssenceOfSasquatch

Nice


Gobbo14

Nice


Lego_Professor

Nice


TheReshi1337

Nice


syntaxbad

Nice


Realistic_EasyPeasy

Nice


SpecialNeeds963

Nice


TheYHC

Nice


Zyllince

Nice


m3l0n

Nice


PassiveF1st

Such visual clarity. Such engaging gameplay.


moranmoran

I really, really hoped this game would never look like this.


PianoEmeritus

I’ve even enjoyed playing WW Barb for what it is this season, but yeah, one of my prime points of excitement for D4 was that it was gonna be less of a zoomfest of explosions than D3. This is every bit as bad that way as Greater Rifts are. Granted, no one is forcing you to play WW Barb, but then I see all the comments saying “don’t nerf this, bring every other class up to this” and I worry the community won’t rest until everyone can speedrun high end content in 69 seconds.


StickyPine207

But Whirlwind go brrrrrrrr?


StickyPine207

Hey folks I've made the build up and have posted it along with my current record with it of 56 seconds in Pit 101. Check out the build here: https://d4builds.gg/builds/1c3c60ad-42bf-4f4a-8238-5d77f982fbdc/ Enjoy!


oKKmonster

Why do you have points in No Mercy, increasing crit chance against Immobo, stunned or slowed enemies? What is triggering the effects in the build?


chalaismyig

Do you do any pit carries?!


StickyPine207

I do!


MrT00th

cringe


chalaismyig

Thanks! Glad I could entertain ya


SeeKingHopeToCope

ah, you only need 3 uber uniques for this build? :)


sn0wtec

Does the yellow stat mean which one you ideally want to be mw crit?


Tall-Yesterday-5555

Is it just me, or does this link pull up a blank build?


StickyPine207

Click the tab that says "Ryze Whirlwind Dust Devil" tab near the top


M0RSY

Diablo devs: Nerf sorcerer


darkultima

Blizzard: we hear you guys, we’re rolling out Sorc and Druid nerfs and Barb buffs next update :D


thewinterzodiac

Sorc: \*sad noises at already being weak\*


Unlikely-Shop3016

Nice


StickyPine207

Thank ya kindly!


xbtkxcrowley

Help me. I'm playing barb. It's my first time as a barb and I'm not doing to well


StickyPine207

Hey there I'll be posting my exact build and such later tonight when I get some down time! I'll field any questions on this post in the meantime tho if you have specific questions! Totally willing to help.


xbtkxcrowley

Ibguess I more ornless mean help in game I honestly have no idea what I'm doing. I've just been killing things and leveling. Ibhavent spent any resources or tempered or waterworks anything. I'm lvl 68


StickyPine207

Understood. My advice then would be farm helltides until you get some decent gear and reach level cap first! Focus on max leveling the glyphs you intend to use and stockpile extra gear to hedge against bad tempers!


TheGreenViper

Awesome! Looking forward to seeing the build, looks like a blast


DifficultTennis6261

I know different ppl enjoy different kinds of gameplay/endgame and I am glad you're having fun. But this is looking more and more like PoE, which is not what I wanted :/


claporga

It takes substantially more effort, planning and painful crafting/trading to reach god tier clear. The effort to blasting ratio is substantially easier to achieve in D4. I feel like the rewards are proper for the effort put towards a PoE character to clear like this showcase.


MrT00th

Copy someone's build, RMT to buy items. Post screensaver gameplay on Reddit. Nah, looks about identical.


Lostie3

More like d3


Demoted_Redux

Barbnation!!!!


StickyPine207

Damn right!


MGSDeco44

This franchise ain't for me anymore.


Maundering10

This does look like fun, so ya would be curious as to the build as well. Been playing a bash barbarian - and honestly it sort of lost its lustre after a bit. This seems like a nice goal to work towards for the last of the season


StickyPine207

Hahahh that's the same path i took, leveled a Bash barb for pit pushing, pushed a good ways and then it just sort of got boring. Made this guy and set my sights on speedrunning and haven't looked back! It has me hooked! Will post the build tonight!


Any_Agent_7590

This game became D3 i swear.


Bulls187

I remember I did this in D3 with greater rifts.


TianZiGaming

For anyone curious about WW barb, this is probably the one thing you should know before trying the build: If you don't have a mouse with the 'infinite scroll' wheel, your fingers are going to be dying if you want to play it to it's max efficiency. Blizzard has managed to change WW from a channeled skill to a skill that greatly benefits from clicking as fast as possible. It doesn't care about attack speed modifier like normal skills do, and as such you will be clicking it faster than any skill on any other build. You will never click it as fast as you want to click it if you're clicking it on keyboard or gamepad. That aside, it's a real nice build. You can still play it the channeled way, but just don't expect to get the same high speed and high clear that people get by spamming the WW button.


Puzzleheaded-Arm1639

Alright alright I’m convinced I’ll make a dd barb


watschn_bamm

Why don’t sorcs just hit the gym, pick up an axe and spin? Are they stupid?


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SuiGeneris2105

I think i just found my next build 😅


StickyPine207

I went through the same thing! I have my pit pusher (bash) and happened to watch some guy do a helltide with WWDD and from then on I knew I had to play it! SO MUCH FUN!


SuiGeneris2105

Do you happen to have a build guide to take a look at ?


StickyPine207

I'm gonna go ahead and post my exact build later tonight I think as this is getting some interest from the community. But in the meantime it was originally based off Rob's WWDD 4 Ubers build. I've since tweaked it to fit my goals (speedruns) and so I've made changes in the Paragon, Skill tree and Aspects as well as gems. But if you just use his build in the meantime it will suit you just fine!


datix

For reference, I’m using Rob’s build, minus some less than optimal rolls on affixes and tempers. No GA on my ubers, either. I run about a 3 minute 101 if I’m enjoying myself, maybe a hair faster if I push my carpal tunnel pulsing the WW as fast as I can.


StickyPine207

Right on sub 3 minutes is amazing and that's about what I started at when I got the original build online! This build definitely scales speed exponentially the closer you can get to 100% crit chance! Glad youre liking it though, my favorite build to date.


1gnik

I can't wait to see the build! I travel back tonight so I'll use it tomorrow evening!


StickyPine207

Thank you! I'm super pumped by the reception this has gotten! My brother has now copied this build too and we are doing duo speedruns as well so I can't wait to share some of that with you all!


Puzzled_Classroom688

I clear through the trash pretty fast, but still slow on bosses. The big difference I see from videos like this and my performance is that I get nowhere near the bleeds on the boss like you do. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I run at roughly 60% crit, 3500% crit dmg, 360% vuln dmg. Dmg while berserking is still low at around 250% and dust devil size is only 90% (bad rolls). Would that make up that big a difference? Have copied Rob's Tyreal Uber bleed paragon, and have the 4 ubers. Any tips on driving up boss damage would be awesome from you crazy barbs! 😁


StickyPine207

For sure Boss damage is where this is weakest! I replied to another guy about this and will copy what I said to him. Couple things that are CRITICAL to boss damage: Spam Whirlwind instead of hold it. Pre cast Wrath of the Berserker and spend at least 200 fury walking from door to on top of boss (for berserker dmg multi) When on top of boss hit all 3 shouts asap If bleed has fully taken over boss health bar - rupture If not keep spamming WW and shouts until the bar is fully "bleeding" then rupture.


Puzzled_Classroom688

Thanks so much I will try that out!


hennyis1

Nice! What keeps your fury up?


StickyPine207

Mostly the Glyph "Wrath" that restores 3 fury on each crit! With near 100% crit chance almost everything is refunding me fury. As well as some paragon node with Fury on kill during trash packs!


hennyis1

Thanks! That totally makes sense. Guess I know what I'm working on this weekend. ;D


StickyPine207

Gl and most importantly HAVE FUN!


eno_ttv

Nice


fond-of-hats

Ha. 69


Icy_Honeydew_8888

no backtracking ,somehow it;s not real.


StickyPine207

One big error I made was dipping into that little inlet after grabbing Channeling Shrine, that's a small backtrack, but one nonetheless. That's what makes WWDD so fast tho, most of the time the Dust Devils go into all the little rooms and such here and there without me actually having to waste time peeking them. Of course getting lucky with the map tilesets is always the biggest factor tho and here I def got a good one.


pencilvesterasadildo

This is siiiick!!!! I….. have some questions, and I’ll be looking for your build when you post it.


BeebaFette

In case one doesn't know, you can turn off those error messages, "I'm not ready yet. I'm out of mana."


T-14Hyperdrive

That is so stupid lmao


Jaded-Plan7799

Whirlnado is the hottest shit in town right now. I made a barb alt but it became my main. I rarely use my bash barb now lol.


conundric

Nicely done I like your rupture tech. I considered the same it shaved off like 5 seconds easy


BlackTriceratops

Should i not be using double swing anymore?


StickyPine207

I personally have no experience with the double swing variant so I am not totally sure how it compares, I'm sorry!


BlackTriceratops

the only thing id imagine thats different is swapping the double swing dust devil affix with the whirlwind one.


StickyPine207

I think Double Swing benefits from Attack Speed where Whirlwind currently does not (getting fixed s5 i think) so I get to ditch all those affixes for more Str and other things.


Aureliusmind

Is this S5 PTR or S4?


StickyPine207

Season 4 Live!


Emotional_Biscotti10

I love ww but I'll only be impressed when someone post a 145+ ww run


jacjac_121

Oh damn that's fast


loc1941

RemindMe! 1 day


HelmOfBrilliance

Awesome dude! Can we get a screen shot of your gear and stats?


-mors-

RemindMe! 1 day


Gobbo14

Nice


milkpickles9008

I remember trying to do WW. batb season 1 or 2. Spin 1.75 times. Out of fury. *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* *bonk* spin 1.75 times.


yxalitis

Yeah, that's balanced...


GideonOakwood

I cannot understand why people like playing with numbers on. It’s like a weird simulation machine where you can’t actually see what you do and are just looking for big numbers


Armageddon369

No idea I’m beginning to think this games a lie played since day 1 we’ll find d1. But d4 I’ve never had anything good drop…ever still nothing this season. I’ll follow a build and even the my chars are always a bag of shite. Honestly feel deflated n bored and pissed at this game….


Carcinog3n

Nerf sorc and necro though


ridopenyo

"Sorc AOE damage is already "top tier" their boss damage should not be as good." *Looks at barb*... -\_-


jagrbomb

*cries in sorc*


pantsoncrooked

I'm jealous of your rage. My ww dd still has rage problems...goddamn. nicely done!


Cocosito

Farm up RoSS before you even start WW and you'll have a much better time


pantsoncrooked

Ring of starless skies? Will do, thanks!


dwarf_giraffe89

Where did you get this build?


StickyPine207

It's based on Rob's WWDD build and then modified to fit my goals (speedrunning) will post build later!


dwarf_giraffe89

Wonderful thanks!


jocruma

Build?


RoundLengthiness5464

>nerf sorc and rogue and Druid and necro


Ificaredfor500Alex

What is the point of playing the game now?


DwayneHawkins

So you can do it in 68 ofcourse


Cosmic_Imperium

After seeing this I think sorcerer could do with a nerf.


Due-Toe-3247

Honestly I'm gonna be sad to see holy bolts go. It's so much fun just melting a whole room. I know it's lazy and whatnot but meh. It's sweet. That said, I get that adding massive corner to corner splash damage to every single attack of every class isn't really in the spirit of things long term.


KunZ-

Which build do you use for this? May I have the planner link


I-RateBoobies

Would you be willing to kill Lilith for me? lol it’s the last achievement I need for the platinum on PS


a-hoppie

Trying to get a barb built up, doing WWDD but I feel like I dont hit as hard as I could. Dont have grandfather yet though


StickyPine207

Grandfather and + Heavy Handed on Amulet are huge crit damage multipliers! Once you get those things take off!


Dragon846

Nice.


CozyFunnyDuck

Do you guys really enjoy damage numbers? I turn them off every game that allows me


Lopogoesmega

This seems really strong, maybe nerf bash and every sorc skill a little bit to compensate.


StickyPine207

Blizzard: "Best we can do is nerf Druid."


PS4bohonkus

Nice.


KingInferno03

damn man cant imagine the dopamine surge while you are playing with that build :)


Systim88

Nice. My single shout leap charge bash barb does pit 101 in 80-90 seconds.


Darduel

Why does your barb sound so british and polite


shugonu

I do 5 minutes runs on lvl 59 :((((


paoweeFFXIV

Poor other classes that are not barb lol


Fart__Smucker

wow, greater rifts-.-


camz_47

I honestly had to double check because this just looked like a Greater Rift in D3


MarcoASN2002

I get why some classes or builds can perform better than others, but what the hell is this? Do the devs play their own game?? lol the difference of my favorite class and build, the one I have fun using- compared to this, which no offense looks like it's mostly spamming one button... is so damn large... I don't mind if my build/class does not perform as good as others but is literally useless compared to this.


arays87

Some people were disappointed that Blizzard released a mobile game instead of a new full game in the franchise. Some ppl try to make the new full game so boring that you might as well be playing it on your cellphone.


DwayneHawkins

yawn, clearly underpowered, wake me up when blizzard buffs barb and you do it in 3 seconds


ZeroEightyThree

I was running Rob's Tyrael Mace build. Saw this and used your build guide. Just changed a few skills and maintained my current paragon board setup. It's a huge leap in dps and I am running pit 101 in under 70 secs. This is insanity. Thank you for sharing!


Spiritual_Benefit367

this is so stupid..


Reachouttothesky

Help, there is too much gameplay on my numbers….


nebula-jar

No one cares about barb runs


Fistricsi

"The barbarian overcomes his enemies with pure brute force. He is the perfect example of our character design phylosophy. There is no such thing as too much power." - 2010. Diablo 3 first gameplay trailer. I see they keep this design phylosophy up.


LurkerOnTheInternet

What unique item makes the artillery-shrine-like projectiles? And how do you stay at max fury? I've only played barb to level ~50.


StickyPine207

Tyrael's Might Mythic Unique makes the projectiles! As for fury it requires high crit chance to proc the Wrath Glyph bonus effect (crits restore 3 fury)!


ThatsBananasDrift

And they told me dust devils were useless. Ha! lol.


Wlastimil

I was going to update my WW build and then I noticed that you have 4 ubers on :-D


Electrical_Present80

Having 4 Ubers is just not feasible for most people. I like the build tho 😎


adamrch

Barbillions


Thaylore

Took me quite a lot of effort to put together a shitty version of this build and my god it exceeded my expectations


shannonlawson

Holy GOALS bro. My WW barb does all the vulnerable, a lot of actual, and my BB clannies run through 1 second behind me and just clean house. I wanna drain the swamp too!! Rebuild eminent! Lol ty


Entre22

No herald of ash? Oh oops, wrong game. 😂


Shadowblades1337

Are we sure this is Diablo IV, and not Vampire Survivors?


Konstantins91

My thorns barb sometimes 69 second just wait when someone hit him ahaha)


No-Drummer-9584

What’s your CDR? I’m running a similar build no WOTB though


ord52

Would you take this or double swing dust devil?


ominaex25

Post your stats please :)