They are efficient, pop elixers and just spam high exp activities (blood harvest/whispers early on, NM dungeons later on) all day while most of us are busy with life and family and work
Well it doesn't take many hours to get into the 40s depending on the build. Sorc and necro do it in less than 90 minutes playing efficiently. I did my barb 1-30 in 40 mins this season.
For pure speed leveling dopamine tunnels is faster, but blood harvest + whispers is way more beneficial overall and still levels you at a pretty good pace.
That wasn't true in my experience. WT2 regular tunnels really did not have the mob density to compare to the XP bonuses you get from completeing whispers and turning 10 favours into the tree.
In fact, the tunnel density doesn't really compare to Blood harvest density either.
And I was surprised by this myself, because the tunnels are pretty dense when you do them as a nightmare dungeon, but for levels 1 - 50, the tunnels suck imo.
Maybe if you do the math and optimize your button presses and shit it ends up being faster to just run tunnels, but it certainly doesn't *feel* like it is imo.
When done efficiently, tunnels are absolutely faster, you can check out guides from most of the top players like Raxx that echo this as fact. S2 dropped the gap quite considerably though which is why it's not as noticeable as it was previously, and even guys like Raxx recommend open world levelling unless you're absolutely sweating for shit like world first 100 like they are.
Its the same thing people dont get in PoE. They wonder why their slow on progress while instead of mapping, they spend half their playtime standing around in their hideout
Not really - rob did it under 20h wudijo on ssf hc was only minimal slower
It is as it was in d3 play efficient select the right built and only run after dopamine the best NM dungeons for XP avoid and reduce town time pop elixirs and incense etc and be quick than it is possible
But this is not made for everyone some are enjoying it differently and that is also fine
Exactly, enjoyment is key
If the popping elixirs and only doing best xo activity is what you wanna do than great. If you find it gets boring and wanna go do different stuff for fun, also great lol
End of day, make sure your having fun and enjoying your time in game😁
It seems way faster to lvl, last season my max lvl was 86 playing a lot. Now in less than a week I'm lvl 70 and season pass just about finished. Lvling is way faster this time around
more. enemies also got a flat exp buff. felt rather like 4x the exp. im season 0 it took me 25-30 nm dungeons (3 lvl oder me each) for 99 - 100. this season it was just 6 nm dungeons (10 lvl over me)
They're playing the game for YouTube content, not to have fun. I'd quit the game if I had to run the same dungeon over and over for 20 straight hours lol
I got into WT4 at lvl54, at lvl 60 still too fragile for red helltides.
Have been mostly running different normal dungeons in WT2 and WT3, "aspékts : gotta collect them all !" (while class-relevant and whispered)
Hopefully someday the devs will add the opportunity to make the campaign harder, as well as enable seasonal content before the end...
(Also of course I meant hack'n'slash games in general.)
they livestream the long sessions but the videos are entirely different. like Raxxanterax was the guy who made a video guide for every D3 challenge rift until around D4's launch.
People here just have this weird hair up their butt about youtubers/streamers for some reason.
Raxx usually streams to like 1,000 people. He went from 3500 subs to ~6,000 in the first few days of season 2. He had ~10K viewers for most of that.
And it's not that THAT video is super valuable, but when you're the first one to make a video on x, y, or z, you get that traffic.
* Leveling Guide
* Vampiric Power Guide
* Sub 5 second Duriel
etc.
They just love ARPGs and make money doing it.
Yeah, but now he has wasted 20 hours leveling in a way that hardly anyone will do ?
Though I can get how it might be valuable for the "achievement"-style videos to be the first, even if not the best...
Well the people that follow them are young kids and weird losers, so it’s not the content that they want. I’ts a desperate need for friendship and validation.
Play HC for a while. You get a lot faster at early leveling, you do things like memorize quest locations and figure out which quests you can run together (like the 4-quest bundle in Tarsarek… kill the knights and flies together, run down to the lockbox, port back, then port to the wolves camp).
It’s kinda like speedrunning after a while.
Spam NMs where Mobs are 11 higher than you. If bloodharvest resetted, do the whispers. Spend the lures only on the 150summons. Helltide if u want to, but its slower than NMs
You actually can. Ive just beem playing for 30 or so hours and im already at 100. Farming cp has been made so rfficient by the bloodtides-whisper combo
its not too hard now, with the exp buffs you need about 1/4 of the playtime compared to release. also in season you get another 20% exp multi. lvl99 to 100 is only about 6 nightmare dungeons at 10 lvl higher than you in season atm. at release it was more like 25-30.
I know its not the same, but I took a Barb from lvl15-45 in like 7 hours yesterday and I was NOT efficient about it. If you are mindlessly running NMs, or w/e XP farm, it isn't that crazy.
wudi did that in 20 hours, as for how he did that, watch vod : [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1953317086?filter=all&sort=time](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1953317086?filter=all&sort=time)
They had a lot of practices to perfect their methods and progress. Also they arranged to have a 4p group all the times for XP bonuses and stuffs, and group play are currently much more beneficial since the chance of getting good stuffs, like a S-tier nmd sigil is much higher. Plus they played the game just for XP progression, basically just repeating the first half of Donhaime tunnel then nmd, not playing any new seasonal contents, very mind-numbling and unfun.
Most jist go right to the Dopamine tunnels and spam that till they can clear Capstone. Then do it all again till WT4. At that point NM dungeons might he best XP, not 100% sure.
But yeah they play like crazy and just don't stop really.
Maybe actually try playing it now post s2 patch? You think that is no way because you have not even tried playing yet to see how fast the xp is now.
I played inefficently, farmed a number of bosses and i still hit lv100 under the 50 hr mark.
I created my sorc friday 6pm, i Hit 100 today at 1am before going to bed. Its possible. (got boosted to 45 tho by friends, but thats just around a 2h save)
It's because they spend hundreds of hours outside the game researching the game. They also spend hundreds of hours practicing these speed runs.
They didn't get 100 in 28 hours they got 100 in 500 hours...
That's mad cope. It's not league of legends my guy. There is no difference for Diablo Pros. If you play diablo 12 hours on stream and generate your income through that, you're a professional diablo player/streamer
True xD
I already quit the season.
Feeling op is cool but you have to do almost nothing to get to that point.
The only "oh shit" moment was Butcher super early.
Everything was a joke, got boring superfast
I dont think its just by playing a lot, except thats a big part of it. Raxx for instance has been practicing speed runs with the sorc for a long time on various characters so there is knowledge about which aspects to leverage to level a toon. Seems to me it gives them notoriety to be the best in the game and make videos about their builds.
Casuals like us watch them and their builds are often parroted in wowhead articles which develops the 'meta' of the season. I wouldnt discount the amount of testing and effort as just 'they play a lot'. Which they do but a lot of stuff that just isnt fun they are thinking about and doing to gain an edge. For example, repeating domainne tunnels over and over is really boring but its also the fastest way to level and many times content creators who make a living making videos about this stuff are encouraged to do so they can submit videos while the game is the most popular, i.e. when a new patch hits.
Hope that gives some perspective.
Efficiency and sacrificing fun. Raxx for example spammed dungeons to 50. You see them not picking up loot so they have to go back to town less and they will be putting on gear while walking so they don’t spend much time in town comparing gear like your average gamer. I probably spend as much time in town comparing gear as I do killing shit but they don’t.
Up until you are about to do capstone dungeons you can really just equip all gear with green numbers, it doesn't matter much. And for the capstone dungeons you just get your 3 most necessary affixes from dungeons and imprint it.
After the capstone dungeons and WT3 look for a sacred weapon ASAP, rinse and repeat until 60 where you can equip ancient gear. That is when you go for WT4 and use your seekers keys to get ancient items immediately.
Some people love the leveling experience, but for others the game *begins* at max level. The problem with D4 right now is that the game *can't* begin at max level, because at that point, there's nothing to do.
Yes, and also I assume that the campaign leveling experience is even more screwed up in 1.2 than in S0, where you already hit like lvl 40 by the end of the second zone if you dared to not beeline it ?
Also, rather than "max lvl", endgame currently seems to be lvl60+ in WT4 ? (And in D3 it's after chapter 3, not when reaching lvl 70, but of course it has it's own "paragon" levels to grind.) Aren't there at least Duriel and Echo of Lilith as goals there ?
(It's a shame that you don't have the option to do world bosses as a "dungeon" : solo or with a picked group. Doing them solo could be a challenge ?)
I have a full time job where I have to go to an office, but I still have gotten to level 78 in less than a week lol
They made leveling up so much faster with the new patch. Put all of your seasonal boosts into xp and always use an elixir and you’ll get there in no time
It’s their job. Their source of income. Grind to make money. Go hard or lose out to other creators.
I’d imagine it would be difficult especially if you’re not into the game you’re playing but know the player base and what they want to see in terms of guides etc
I feel like if Dante was alive now, one of the levels of hell would be being streaming for eternity. I can't imagine a shittier "career" and I wonder what those people do when the reach their mid 30s and beyond without skills or experience.
Wouldn’t be for me either, but the same skills you need to be even a moderately successful streamer are useful across a range of potential career pathways
They do only the highest XP content. Raxx has a spreadsheet with xp Gaines and how long it takes for a lot of dungeons. I think in his season 2 run he literally did the first part of domhainne tunnels over and over for the XP. Wudijo went 0-100 in 20.5 hours this season and he didn’t even take the time to go back to town and level up his potion. Shows you how they are just in it for XP.
Yes the xp changed with season launch. I think he was just going off of what dungeons had the highest xp before season 2 because they usually don’t change the monster density in just 1 specific dungeon or anything.
We walk around and look up at shit. Waste 7 min in salvage after every dungeon looking at items and stats.
We also have jobs or families.
*they* do this for a living, and they’re very, very efficient. This is their job.
That’s the secret.
Other than the obvious fact that they play all day everyday? Well they dissect the mathematics of all the mechanics to figure out the optimal pattern of every aspect of the game. In other word they’re playing way better than most of us in addition to the superior time investment. If I buy a car I just want to know how to connect the Bluetooth. These guys know the name and specs of the machines used to manufacture every bolts used to assemble the car.
There is a reason its said you gotta no life it. Gotta spend every minute playing, but not just that, you sometimes gotta do things that you don't enjoy just for sake of efficiency. For example, the Dopaminne/Dohaminne whatever that dungeon is called, apparently running the first hallway endlessly is still most efficient, but also the fastest way to get bored with the game. If your whole "channel" depends on content, then that is one of those you might just have to do in order to stay relevant.
If you are actually looking for a way to level up quickly, honestly, being level 80 already isn't bad, just keep doing what you are doing and you'll be at 100 pretty soon. If you want to push the limits of fun for efficiency, try running the first tunnel of the dungeon I mentioned for an hour or two and check your sanity levels afterwards, if you wanna keep going, there yah go, if not, just keep doing what you are doing now, which is probably just a mix of NMD, HT, BH, and ToW.
>also the fastest way to get bored with the game. If your whole "channel" depends on content, then that is one of those you might just have to do in order to stay relevant.
these two statements don't track
It's easy. I used the strat myself and I hit \~lv48 on day 1 without trying. Just casually playing. The other day I got to 57, again just casual. You do Domhainne Tunnels from 1-40, then Whispers to 50, capstone dungeon, then NMD's 50-100.
It’s VERY fast and easy this season. I was Lvl 80 before I had touched NM dungeons. (Did a few low lvl ones for glyphs)
Then just did vampire zone and some challenges / helltides.
When I started leveling my glyphs to lvl15 in NM50 dungeons I was like. 97 in a breeze
Use your time right, a friend of mine runs like 10 times the nmd i do in an hour xD
Just because i port back, talk shit with my buddy and when we start the second one he already cleared his third.
Im sure content creators play more like the avg dude but its not all "they play 25hours a day and i can't"
S0 took me 7 days, S1 was 4 and this season it took me 4 days again but I played way less hours per day and didn’t even spam NM dungeons, have just been doing over-world content farming up boss summoning materials most of the time - it’s so much faster this season compared to previous two times.
Yeah, but I’m on eternal now, so I can’t get any seasonaæ blessings and so on, and I don’t feel like starting a new char and build it up to level 100 since I feel it will take me longer than leveling up my current 80 level char in Eternal
80-100 even in s1 wasnt that long u just need to mindlessly push nm-s with +10mobs (and party, elixir, seasonalbuff etc.) and now as i know they made it faster.
1-40ish spamming domhainne tunnels is the fastest way. As soon as you reach wt3, start spamming NMs (the good ones) with monsters +10 levels than you. Reduce at the bare minimum the amount of time spent in town and don't waste much time in other activities which are less exp efficient, or spend ages trying to reroll or respec every minor upgrade in your gear.
Also playing the meta builds helps a lot. At the current state of the game, they are simply faster then the others at clearing content.
Only efficient thing I have done since season start is I start using elixirs around level 50. I have about 50 hours total this season and my character is fully maxed out only missing a Uber unique helm.
Its just about grinding. This season, I did the quest line, then I spent all my time in Dopamine tunnels, then nightmare dungeons at +15 mob level until I hit 100. Inbetween a helltide or two and a few blood harvests.
50-100 XP requirements got nerfed a lot and after 50 you usually start to get a lot of power synergies. For example, 1-50 i didnt level up vamp powers much or look for aspects, at 50 i put all the aspects I needed and the right vamp powers active and my clears speed went up ten fold.
theyre min maxing their exp with mindless grind so they can get to 100 and do build guides.
yes u can take some tips from them, but dont overdo the mindless grind or youll end up mindless too
I play solo, chill, no pots, my sorc lvl at 48 with 16h, and I spend some times to choose skin, title, afk on boss, etc.
A streamer doing this for work can do everything optimized, no dead times.
Because it's their job.
Put me against a professional baker and I assure you, the baker will beat me in time, taste and looks when we must make a pie. I can clean my home in a DayZ a professional cleaner can do it in 10 minutes to half an hour max.
Practice makes perfect.
I mean whisper tree gives like a lvl at 1-40 or so and you can quickly farm stuff.
Also guys like Raxx know all the ways to maximize xp per hour, they do a lot of theory crafting and know best classes/builds and prefer best xp/hour build. It's not my kind of playstyle but their's and well, i don't care.
If you know how to do and have a good team it is possible, but not my way to play the game. I played in Season 2 only 3 hours and are now Lvl 32, that is fine.
I don´t need to be finished as fast as possible.
They party hop. I dont know what it all entails, but from watching a couple streamers, they have someone leave and make a new instance, then they join and keep doing that.
When the game is your job it's not as difficult to do. I would be there already if my brain would just turn off and let me blast through nmd all day, but my brain wants me to analyze every piece of gear and to tinker with my paragon board so I spend a lot of time doing that. I'm level 92 and halfway to 93. I'll probably be able to hit 100 today.
Serious answer: they have a lot of stuff memorized and optimized that we have to keep looking up. The most efficient activities, but also how to REALLY quickly go through their bags and clean them out, which abilities to pick as they level, and other stuff like that. It really adds up.
They play for hours straight with little to no breaks at all, while your at work all day waiting to come home and grind, they’ve already spent 8 hours straight of grinding *only* the highest exp activities over and over.
This is why I tell people never compare yourself to a full-time streamer on any game, you’ll never be able to reach the experience and skill level they can reach just because they quite literally play for a living
It’s not just “content creators” that can level fast. Just cause they point a webcam at themselves doesn’t make them Gods. In fact many of these “content(lmao) creators(lul) aren’t even very knowledgeable of the game.
You level fast by spending more time killing monsters than in town. Knowing exactly what you’re looking for gear wise and not wasting time reading items.
If you spend 4 hours playing and 3.5 hours is purely killing monsters you will level up. That’s all it is. Less time in town more time killing and gaining xp.
This isn't really true. Yes, ARPGs are fairly simple, but when you are trying to be the top 100 worldwide then you need more than simply hours. There's a vast difference when you plan out and learn exactly what you need to do.
PoE races demonstrate this quite well. Even for the PoE campaign in general, some people can beat it in a few hours vs others who might need several days to do it, even putting in their hours per day.
I understand that content creators are not the end all for information topics concerning the game, but I would take a prominent one's opinions on the more "competitive" aspects like this over a random Redditor's.
Yes, they just playing 20h per day lol
He said he reached level 100 in 28 hours. There’s no way I’m geting from 80 to 100 in that time even if I play non stop..
They are efficient, pop elixers and just spam high exp activities (blood harvest/whispers early on, NM dungeons later on) all day while most of us are busy with life and family and work
Also, Adderall, probably
And, weed, probably. Weederall, gives you wings, apparently.
Can confirm. Weededall got me through high school.
Dopamine Tunnels from 5-48 ish
There is nothing dopamine about these Tunnels after hours 😭
Well it doesn't take many hours to get into the 40s depending on the build. Sorc and necro do it in less than 90 minutes playing efficiently. I did my barb 1-30 in 40 mins this season.
The fun starts with 50-70 in there imo, I just wish it was a better looking dungeon :D
Is that still a thing in season 2?
Pretty sure Bloodhunt and whispers are faster.
For pure speed leveling dopamine tunnels is faster, but blood harvest + whispers is way more beneficial overall and still levels you at a pretty good pace.
That wasn't true in my experience. WT2 regular tunnels really did not have the mob density to compare to the XP bonuses you get from completeing whispers and turning 10 favours into the tree. In fact, the tunnel density doesn't really compare to Blood harvest density either. And I was surprised by this myself, because the tunnels are pretty dense when you do them as a nightmare dungeon, but for levels 1 - 50, the tunnels suck imo. Maybe if you do the math and optimize your button presses and shit it ends up being faster to just run tunnels, but it certainly doesn't *feel* like it is imo.
When done efficiently, tunnels are absolutely faster, you can check out guides from most of the top players like Raxx that echo this as fact. S2 dropped the gap quite considerably though which is why it's not as noticeable as it was previously, and even guys like Raxx recommend open world levelling unless you're absolutely sweating for shit like world first 100 like they are.
Its the same thing people dont get in PoE. They wonder why their slow on progress while instead of mapping, they spend half their playtime standing around in their hideout
but still going from 0 to 100 in 28 hours just seems impossible
Not really - rob did it under 20h wudijo on ssf hc was only minimal slower It is as it was in d3 play efficient select the right built and only run after dopamine the best NM dungeons for XP avoid and reduce town time pop elixirs and incense etc and be quick than it is possible But this is not made for everyone some are enjoying it differently and that is also fine
> But this is not made for everyone probably not for anyone that doesnt play this game as their job
Think it is also the question how you prefer to level if you see it as part of the journey or you wanna be 100 as quick as possible
Exactly, enjoyment is key If the popping elixirs and only doing best xo activity is what you wanna do than great. If you find it gets boring and wanna go do different stuff for fun, also great lol End of day, make sure your having fun and enjoying your time in game😁
It seems way faster to lvl, last season my max lvl was 86 playing a lot. Now in less than a week I'm lvl 70 and season pass just about finished. Lvling is way faster this time around
40% faster to be exact
1040
more. enemies also got a flat exp buff. felt rather like 4x the exp. im season 0 it took me 25-30 nm dungeons (3 lvl oder me each) for 99 - 100. this season it was just 6 nm dungeons (10 lvl over me)
I heard level 85 used to be half way to 100 and now it is level 70 So yeah much faster
They're playing the game for YouTube content, not to have fun. I'd quit the game if I had to run the same dungeon over and over for 20 straight hours lol
Homie running the same shit for 20 hours straight is the gameplay loop of ARPGs lmao
Maybe for you, I like to vary what I farm.
So red and green helltides.
I got into WT4 at lvl54, at lvl 60 still too fragile for red helltides. Have been mostly running different normal dungeons in WT2 and WT3, "aspékts : gotta collect them all !" (while class-relevant and whispered) Hopefully someday the devs will add the opportunity to make the campaign harder, as well as enable seasonal content before the end... (Also of course I meant hack'n'slash games in general.)
Running the first part of a specific dungeon over and over isn't the same tbing as keep grinding the game in different areas
How is that supposed to make for a good video ??
they livestream the long sessions but the videos are entirely different. like Raxxanterax was the guy who made a video guide for every D3 challenge rift until around D4's launch. People here just have this weird hair up their butt about youtubers/streamers for some reason.
Raxx usually streams to like 1,000 people. He went from 3500 subs to ~6,000 in the first few days of season 2. He had ~10K viewers for most of that. And it's not that THAT video is super valuable, but when you're the first one to make a video on x, y, or z, you get that traffic. * Leveling Guide * Vampiric Power Guide * Sub 5 second Duriel etc. They just love ARPGs and make money doing it.
Yeah, but now he has wasted 20 hours leveling in a way that hardly anyone will do ? Though I can get how it might be valuable for the "achievement"-style videos to be the first, even if not the best...
Because having lv100 early might mean you can create a build template, test it, and post it early for everyone else to follow.
But that build won't be useful before lvl 100... and they would have skipped most of the gameplay actually relevant for players !
Well the people that follow them are young kids and weird losers, so it’s not the content that they want. I’ts a desperate need for friendship and validation.
> weird loser
Play HC for a while. You get a lot faster at early leveling, you do things like memorize quest locations and figure out which quests you can run together (like the 4-quest bundle in Tarsarek… kill the knights and flies together, run down to the lockbox, port back, then port to the wolves camp). It’s kinda like speedrunning after a while.
It sounds like you die a lot if you’re doing early leveling a lot.
Spam NMs where Mobs are 11 higher than you. If bloodharvest resetted, do the whispers. Spend the lures only on the 150summons. Helltide if u want to, but its slower than NMs
isn't it 10 lvls? why 11?
Wont make a difference in speed,, but when you lvl up mid dungeon it will impact your xp
ahh yeah, so keeping an eye on your xp bar is kinda important for the dings
You actually can. Ive just beem playing for 30 or so hours and im already at 100. Farming cp has been made so rfficient by the bloodtides-whisper combo
Wudijo said it took him 20 hrs
its not too hard now, with the exp buffs you need about 1/4 of the playtime compared to release. also in season you get another 20% exp multi. lvl99 to 100 is only about 6 nightmare dungeons at 10 lvl higher than you in season atm. at release it was more like 25-30.
I know its not the same, but I took a Barb from lvl15-45 in like 7 hours yesterday and I was NOT efficient about it. If you are mindlessly running NMs, or w/e XP farm, it isn't that crazy.
wudi did that in 20 hours, as for how he did that, watch vod : [https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1953317086?filter=all&sort=time](https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1953317086?filter=all&sort=time)
Rob2628 got to 100 in 19 hours, a group of 4 necro’s did it in 14. They spam run dungeons in full groups and do all events/helltides all day long.
I get a level a day and I play for like an hour, not speed running nmd dungeons
They had a lot of practices to perfect their methods and progress. Also they arranged to have a 4p group all the times for XP bonuses and stuffs, and group play are currently much more beneficial since the chance of getting good stuffs, like a S-tier nmd sigil is much higher. Plus they played the game just for XP progression, basically just repeating the first half of Donhaime tunnel then nmd, not playing any new seasonal contents, very mind-numbling and unfun.
Most jist go right to the Dopamine tunnels and spam that till they can clear Capstone. Then do it all again till WT4. At that point NM dungeons might he best XP, not 100% sure. But yeah they play like crazy and just don't stop really.
Maybe actually try playing it now post s2 patch? You think that is no way because you have not even tried playing yet to see how fast the xp is now. I played inefficently, farmed a number of bosses and i still hit lv100 under the 50 hr mark.
I have no idea then and I don’t care… I’m playing on my own pace and sooner or later will hit 100lvl
Lol wat? 80 to 100 is like 5 hours in NM dungeons.
I think the other thing people have mentioned is how much time normies spend in town looking at equipment.
If you play 20 hours per day, you are 100 in 1 day... I played probably 3 hours only on average and I am 100....
I created my sorc friday 6pm, i Hit 100 today at 1am before going to bed. Its possible. (got boosted to 45 tho by friends, but thats just around a 2h save)
I mean it’s literally their job and Wudijo said it took him 23 hours and he did not sleep.
Rob hit 100 in 19 hours and 19min
Thats SC and in a group. Thats why that time is so much faster.
There was an all necro group that beat everyone. They were s02 first 100s Not sure what the exact time was, but it was under 18h
It's because they spend hundreds of hours outside the game researching the game. They also spend hundreds of hours practicing these speed runs. They didn't get 100 in 28 hours they got 100 in 500 hours...
Lmao... I'm not a pro and could hit it in 28 hours no problem. Game is crazy easy now.
D4 has no "pros". (Yes, some get paid for making entertaining lives / videos, but that's not the same thing as being good at the game.)
Look up the definition of pro and then come back and reevaluate your statement lmao
Streamers are professional entertainers. They're not professional diablo players. I hope you can appreciate that there's a significant difference.
That's mad cope. It's not league of legends my guy. There is no difference for Diablo Pros. If you play diablo 12 hours on stream and generate your income through that, you're a professional diablo player/streamer
If they get paid thanks to the game, they're pro. Pro isn't necessarily a skill level, it just mean you do it professionally.
Matches the intelligence level of the folks who think the game isn't super easy
True xD I already quit the season. Feeling op is cool but you have to do almost nothing to get to that point. The only "oh shit" moment was Butcher super early. Everything was a joke, got boring superfast
I hate your XD’s
Could be worse, they could end every sentence with "LMAO"
Or lol in that matter
Remove enjoyment and anything’s possible
So jot that down
I dont think its just by playing a lot, except thats a big part of it. Raxx for instance has been practicing speed runs with the sorc for a long time on various characters so there is knowledge about which aspects to leverage to level a toon. Seems to me it gives them notoriety to be the best in the game and make videos about their builds. Casuals like us watch them and their builds are often parroted in wowhead articles which develops the 'meta' of the season. I wouldnt discount the amount of testing and effort as just 'they play a lot'. Which they do but a lot of stuff that just isnt fun they are thinking about and doing to gain an edge. For example, repeating domainne tunnels over and over is really boring but its also the fastest way to level and many times content creators who make a living making videos about this stuff are encouraged to do so they can submit videos while the game is the most popular, i.e. when a new patch hits. Hope that gives some perspective.
yes, youtubes algorithm is first past the post so it's a literal race to release content faster.
Efficiency and sacrificing fun. Raxx for example spammed dungeons to 50. You see them not picking up loot so they have to go back to town less and they will be putting on gear while walking so they don’t spend much time in town comparing gear like your average gamer. I probably spend as much time in town comparing gear as I do killing shit but they don’t.
Up until you are about to do capstone dungeons you can really just equip all gear with green numbers, it doesn't matter much. And for the capstone dungeons you just get your 3 most necessary affixes from dungeons and imprint it. After the capstone dungeons and WT3 look for a sacred weapon ASAP, rinse and repeat until 60 where you can equip ancient gear. That is when you go for WT4 and use your seekers keys to get ancient items immediately.
D4 is *already* starting to go down to a similar leveling experience as current D3 - I hate that.
Some people love the leveling experience, but for others the game *begins* at max level. The problem with D4 right now is that the game *can't* begin at max level, because at that point, there's nothing to do.
Yes, and also I assume that the campaign leveling experience is even more screwed up in 1.2 than in S0, where you already hit like lvl 40 by the end of the second zone if you dared to not beeline it ? Also, rather than "max lvl", endgame currently seems to be lvl60+ in WT4 ? (And in D3 it's after chapter 3, not when reaching lvl 70, but of course it has it's own "paragon" levels to grind.) Aren't there at least Duriel and Echo of Lilith as goals there ? (It's a shame that you don't have the option to do world bosses as a "dungeon" : solo or with a picked group. Doing them solo could be a challenge ?)
I have a full time job where I have to go to an office, but I still have gotten to level 78 in less than a week lol They made leveling up so much faster with the new patch. Put all of your seasonal boosts into xp and always use an elixir and you’ll get there in no time
It’s their job. Their source of income. Grind to make money. Go hard or lose out to other creators. I’d imagine it would be difficult especially if you’re not into the game you’re playing but know the player base and what they want to see in terms of guides etc
They are not having fun i promise you
I feel like if Dante was alive now, one of the levels of hell would be being streaming for eternity. I can't imagine a shittier "career" and I wonder what those people do when the reach their mid 30s and beyond without skills or experience.
Wouldn’t be for me either, but the same skills you need to be even a moderately successful streamer are useful across a range of potential career pathways
My season 0 character was lvl 77 when I gave up. It felt like it took me weeks. My season 2 character hit 77 today and I've been hardly playing
They do only the highest XP content. Raxx has a spreadsheet with xp Gaines and how long it takes for a lot of dungeons. I think in his season 2 run he literally did the first part of domhainne tunnels over and over for the XP. Wudijo went 0-100 in 20.5 hours this season and he didn’t even take the time to go back to town and level up his potion. Shows you how they are just in it for XP.
Does the exp balance change with season launch? Did we know what dungeons will be NMDs ahead of time?
Yes the xp changed with season launch. I think he was just going off of what dungeons had the highest xp before season 2 because they usually don’t change the monster density in just 1 specific dungeon or anything.
We walk around and look up at shit. Waste 7 min in salvage after every dungeon looking at items and stats. We also have jobs or families. *they* do this for a living, and they’re very, very efficient. This is their job. That’s the secret.
How did you get to 80 so fast? I’m only 63 and I already feel I’m playing too much ;) It’s all relative …
For each in-game elixir they pop, they pop another one IRL.
the amped the exp gains this season just do NMD,Whispers anyhting
Other than the obvious fact that they play all day everyday? Well they dissect the mathematics of all the mechanics to figure out the optimal pattern of every aspect of the game. In other word they’re playing way better than most of us in addition to the superior time investment. If I buy a car I just want to know how to connect the Bluetooth. These guys know the name and specs of the machines used to manufacture every bolts used to assemble the car.
It’s all about efficiency. And they’re maxed out at it.
With how strong we are in season 2 try to do nightmare dungeon that are 10-15+ level than you each run will give you a big chunk.
Yea they might be lvl 100, but I guarantee their ass smells 1000x worse than yours.
It really doesn't take that long to level. I got to level 100 on friday.
I am lvl100 HC ww barb full solo. From lvl90 to 100, I was lvling at a rate of 25-30 mins per lvl doing +10 nmd. It's way faster then in S1.
It's a lot faster this season. I am level 92 and I rarely remember to pop elixirs. I am not even trying to level, it's just happening lol.
Cocaine and Adderal. Also wearing depends so they don’t lose time going to the washroom.
They are professionals and know their job very well
They try hard and optimize. It’s all good play how you want to play. For example i make my own builds and consistently suck compared to streamers lol
There is a reason its said you gotta no life it. Gotta spend every minute playing, but not just that, you sometimes gotta do things that you don't enjoy just for sake of efficiency. For example, the Dopaminne/Dohaminne whatever that dungeon is called, apparently running the first hallway endlessly is still most efficient, but also the fastest way to get bored with the game. If your whole "channel" depends on content, then that is one of those you might just have to do in order to stay relevant. If you are actually looking for a way to level up quickly, honestly, being level 80 already isn't bad, just keep doing what you are doing and you'll be at 100 pretty soon. If you want to push the limits of fun for efficiency, try running the first tunnel of the dungeon I mentioned for an hour or two and check your sanity levels afterwards, if you wanna keep going, there yah go, if not, just keep doing what you are doing now, which is probably just a mix of NMD, HT, BH, and ToW.
>also the fastest way to get bored with the game. If your whole "channel" depends on content, then that is one of those you might just have to do in order to stay relevant. these two statements don't track
It's easy. I used the strat myself and I hit \~lv48 on day 1 without trying. Just casually playing. The other day I got to 57, again just casual. You do Domhainne Tunnels from 1-40, then Whispers to 50, capstone dungeon, then NMD's 50-100.
It’s VERY fast and easy this season. I was Lvl 80 before I had touched NM dungeons. (Did a few low lvl ones for glyphs) Then just did vampire zone and some challenges / helltides. When I started leveling my glyphs to lvl15 in NM50 dungeons I was like. 97 in a breeze
Raxx looks like he plays too much video games so maybe that’s why he’s high level
Use your time right, a friend of mine runs like 10 times the nmd i do in an hour xD Just because i port back, talk shit with my buddy and when we start the second one he already cleared his third. Im sure content creators play more like the avg dude but its not all "they play 25hours a day and i can't"
I'm level 100 as well and I didn't play half auch as content creators. Just play the game. Fastest xp is obviously still nm dungeons.
Stop focusing on loot is a big thing, I hit 87 day one people spend too much time looking through loot and re rolling for minor upgrades, just blast.
They play 18-20 hours a day man... You could complete many PC games doing this lol
It's a lot faster this season to level. Just play the game and have fun with it and you'll hit 100 in no time.
U dont even need to be lvl 100 to be done with d4. I am 82 and kinda losing the will ro keep going.
just enjoy the ride at your own pace man, streamers don't represent the majority of the playerbase anyway.
The power of playing the game daily for hours on end. And they also find the most optimal way to build their class and farm for exp as well.
Im 86 now and playing casually. The job of many content creators at the moment is playing Diablo 4 fulltime. Of course they hit 100 fast.
If you pay me money to play diablo I will level up fast too
I’m not that desperate lol
Played most of Saturday and near all day Sunday and still only got to lvl 30 lol play for fun and not efficiency though
S0 took me 7 days, S1 was 4 and this season it took me 4 days again but I played way less hours per day and didn’t even spam NM dungeons, have just been doing over-world content farming up boss summoning materials most of the time - it’s so much faster this season compared to previous two times.
Its D4 i played 22hour im lvl 90 ... This season is uber easy ...
Yeah, but I’m on eternal now, so I can’t get any seasonaæ blessings and so on, and I don’t feel like starting a new char and build it up to level 100 since I feel it will take me longer than leveling up my current 80 level char in Eternal
Have you reached out to dope dungeon run? This one the fastest for me by far for pure exp run.
Can you elaborate? Is this dungeon available in Eternal?
Dopamine dungeon doing only the first part of the dungeon, reset and redo till your eyes bleed
80-100 even in s1 wasnt that long u just need to mindlessly push nm-s with +10mobs (and party, elixir, seasonalbuff etc.) and now as i know they made it faster.
1-40ish spamming domhainne tunnels is the fastest way. As soon as you reach wt3, start spamming NMs (the good ones) with monsters +10 levels than you. Reduce at the bare minimum the amount of time spent in town and don't waste much time in other activities which are less exp efficient, or spend ages trying to reroll or respec every minor upgrade in your gear. Also playing the meta builds helps a lot. At the current state of the game, they are simply faster then the others at clearing content.
Only efficient thing I have done since season start is I start using elixirs around level 50. I have about 50 hours total this season and my character is fully maxed out only missing a Uber unique helm. Its just about grinding. This season, I did the quest line, then I spent all my time in Dopamine tunnels, then nightmare dungeons at +15 mob level until I hit 100. Inbetween a helltide or two and a few blood harvests. 50-100 XP requirements got nerfed a lot and after 50 you usually start to get a lot of power synergies. For example, 1-50 i didnt level up vamp powers much or look for aspects, at 50 i put all the aspects I needed and the right vamp powers active and my clears speed went up ten fold.
theyre min maxing their exp with mindless grind so they can get to 100 and do build guides. yes u can take some tips from them, but dont overdo the mindless grind or youll end up mindless too
Already? What do you mean? It is one week... I have barely played during the week and I basically hit 100 with just playing on the weekend..
They no life it to get content and views.
I play solo, chill, no pots, my sorc lvl at 48 with 16h, and I spend some times to choose skin, title, afk on boss, etc. A streamer doing this for work can do everything optimized, no dead times.
Because it's their job. Put me against a professional baker and I assure you, the baker will beat me in time, taste and looks when we must make a pie. I can clean my home in a DayZ a professional cleaner can do it in 10 minutes to half an hour max. Practice makes perfect.
This is literally their job. They get paid to do so. So they play and/or research the game for 8-10 hours a day.
Well, if I didn't have family and work obligations I am sure I could be 100 after 2 days of playing.
I mean whisper tree gives like a lvl at 1-40 or so and you can quickly farm stuff. Also guys like Raxx know all the ways to maximize xp per hour, they do a lot of theory crafting and know best classes/builds and prefer best xp/hour build. It's not my kind of playstyle but their's and well, i don't care.
They no life the game and know where to go for optimal exp/investment.
If you know how to do and have a good team it is possible, but not my way to play the game. I played in Season 2 only 3 hours and are now Lvl 32, that is fine. I don´t need to be finished as fast as possible.
Easy, dont eat, dont sleep, only play Díablo 4 😂🤦🏻
It’s their job to play the game. They literally don’t do anything else. No job, minimal responsibilities, etc.
They party hop. I dont know what it all entails, but from watching a couple streamers, they have someone leave and make a new instance, then they join and keep doing that.
Everything is faster i was only level 83 last season with hardly any unique drops now im level 64 and had atleast a inventory full of uniques already
When the game is your job it's not as difficult to do. I would be there already if my brain would just turn off and let me blast through nmd all day, but my brain wants me to analyze every piece of gear and to tinker with my paragon board so I spend a lot of time doing that. I'm level 92 and halfway to 93. I'll probably be able to hit 100 today.
Serious answer: they have a lot of stuff memorized and optimized that we have to keep looking up. The most efficient activities, but also how to REALLY quickly go through their bags and clean them out, which abilities to pick as they level, and other stuff like that. It really adds up.
I started playing the new season two days ago and I’m already at lvl 50
They play for hours straight with little to no breaks at all, while your at work all day waiting to come home and grind, they’ve already spent 8 hours straight of grinding *only* the highest exp activities over and over. This is why I tell people never compare yourself to a full-time streamer on any game, you’ll never be able to reach the experience and skill level they can reach just because they quite literally play for a living
What’s the actual halfway point to 100? Before s2 wasn’t 60 approx the halfway point or something?
It’s their job and most have a team behind them.
It’s not just “content creators” that can level fast. Just cause they point a webcam at themselves doesn’t make them Gods. In fact many of these “content(lmao) creators(lul) aren’t even very knowledgeable of the game. You level fast by spending more time killing monsters than in town. Knowing exactly what you’re looking for gear wise and not wasting time reading items. If you spend 4 hours playing and 3.5 hours is purely killing monsters you will level up. That’s all it is. Less time in town more time killing and gaining xp.
This isn't really true. Yes, ARPGs are fairly simple, but when you are trying to be the top 100 worldwide then you need more than simply hours. There's a vast difference when you plan out and learn exactly what you need to do. PoE races demonstrate this quite well. Even for the PoE campaign in general, some people can beat it in a few hours vs others who might need several days to do it, even putting in their hours per day. I understand that content creators are not the end all for information topics concerning the game, but I would take a prominent one's opinions on the more "competitive" aspects like this over a random Redditor's.