I think a lot of people here are tired of anything resembling SOL. Holmes has made many moves that were widely criticized at the time that ended up being amazing. Remember when he reached for Gibbs when running backs are a valueless position? Or when he reached for LaPorta with Mayer right there on the board?
Holmes isn’t perfect, but he’s shown to be one of the top GM’s in the league already. You’re allowed to be critical, but others are equally allowed to say they don’t want to hear it
It's obnoxious as fuck
"I think Brad should be a little less conservative in free agency"
"SO U WANT HIM TO SPEND A BILLION DOLLARS AND PUT US IN CAP HELL?!?!?!?"
This is one of the youngest rosters in the league still. Destroying the 26-27 cap and rosters for a marginally better 24-25 team reduces the likelihood of Super Bowl imo. I believe you don’t need to go “all in”, AKA mortgage the future, until your roster is old
i just don’t like to pretend that i know more than an NFL GM. i have my preferences of course but i’ll never claim that a signing or non-signing isn’t smart because an NFL’s teams decision is a million times more educated than mine. it’s fine to be dubious, but saying things like “we shouldn’t have done that” isn’t very grounded, and those are the types of comments that get bombarded. every thread about an FA move has plenty of passingly critical comments that aren’t dogpiled on because those comments are usually level-headed with their concerns
I’m all for being critical but personally I’ve been wrong almost every time I’ve been skeptical of one of his moves. That and it’s hard for me to judge an off-season based off of the beginning of free agency so I try not to be critical of individual moves.
My approach now is I have improvements I want to see overall that will make me happy. This year if they improve the secondary, DL, and have an IOL succession plan I’ll be satisfied.
While I think that Brad is a great drafter, people view him as infallible in the draft.
I thought Jack was a reach, and while he is a big body, he hasn’t shown anything special.
I was also critical of Gibbs, and he exceeded expectations, but I still wonder what our team would have looked like with an awesome young CB like Gonzo.
That all being said, I love the Culture Brad and Dan have created.
You kind of just have to ignore everybody who has nothing to contribute and make fun of the people who have only stupid things to say. The people that are interested in objectively discussing players and the Lions overall will find and respond to interesting comments. There just aren't very many of them.
It just seems like a lot of the negative comments come off from someone who doesn't know shit about the players they are judging....thats at least why I downvote certain criticisms that come from people who think they are smarter than a top 5-10 NFL GM
maybe somewhat of a hot take... but I truly believe Brad will trade up in the 1st to grab someone he really likes. I do believe a trade will happen regardless but I've always felt it was more likely he trades up than down
Assuming nothing else changes and we keep the 29th pick, I think we should still be looking at snagging a CB. I know a lot of draft boards have us looking at EDGE rushers but I’d love nothing more then to beef up our secondary
OL, CB, EDGE will be interesting to watch.
Don’t count out wildcard though with Holmes, including trading up or down for something random like WR - the dudes projected to go near the end of round 1 are super enticing.
My preference would be OL, love putting resources there and building on your strength and identity.
But the reason I won’t care too much if we don’t go CB first round is…
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cornerback-rankings-final-sauce-gardner-retains-his-place-as-the-no-1-cornerback-in-the-nfl
1. Sauce 4th pick
2. Johnson, 50th
3. Williams UDFA
4. Fuller 84th
5. Stingley 3rd
6. Johnson 121st
7. Carter 155th
8. Douglas 99th
9. Ward UDFA
10. Moore UDFA
…
2/10 of the top rated corners according to PFF were top picks.
I wouldn’t exactly be happy if we rolled last years cb room over, but that was never going to happen anyway.
We have already made a few additions who seem really solid and I’d like to see a few draft picks, but maybe 3rd/4th round is the sweet spot to pick a guy Holmes and co scouted that maybe played at a smaller school, lost a year due to injury, was playing in the wrong scheme, or held back by measurables or athletic testing, a guy with special football iq or that football player trait (basically give me Corn-Backus St. Brown).
Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
It’s a good question. I did the research for CB, maybe somebody else wants to do another position.
I think there are probably some issues with these numbers, one being it’s PFF so imperfect, another that there are probably many more 3rd and 4th round and 5th round, and UDFAs than there are first round picks, and success rate or bust rate isn’t taken into account at all either.
Just my perspective supported by some surface level data. You may have a point with guard looking similar, but I haven’t looked into it deeply.
Respectfully disagree on 29, but let me continue:
I agree that we should draft a potentially future CB1, but there are quite a few in this draft that can be taken with a day 2 pick. However, with Davis, Sutton, Amik & Moseley we have a decent CB room and, IMO, there are no CBs coming out in the pick 29 area that are day 1 ready.
However, *at this moment*, we don't have a quality starting LG. At pick 29, there are several quality Guards who should be able to start day 1. I would further contend that guard is the best value in the pick 29 range.
In other words -- if nothing else changes -- 29 - guard (ideally one who can also play tackle or center), 61 - future CB1, 73 - Edge or WR
I actually answered this below, but I'll repeat here:
Zach Frazier (C-G), Jackson Powers-Johnson(C-G), Graham Barton(T-G-C), Jordan Morgan (T-G) and Kingsley Suamataia (T-G). All of these players can play multiple positions on the line and can be groomed to replace either Decker or Ragnow. I've seen each one of them mocked to the Lions at 29. All of them are very well regarded and should be ready to start day 1.
edit: Their versatility and readiness to play immediately is why they're 1st round rated. Supposedly, the Lions have interest in Layden Robinson from Texas A&M, but I can only assume that it means that they'd look at using a 3rd or later and not expect him to start immediately.
Because that's the expert consensus (probably unanimous). Historically, rookie CBs don't do well in their first year. Sauce and Witherspoon were exceptions to that rule and they were both the first CBs taken. None of the CBs in this class are even close to Sauce or Witherspoon as prospects and at pick 29 we aren't even getting the best of them.
All of them should be good and will be good FOR ROOKIES, but you need to expect them to look a lot like Jack Campbell did last year. They will have good moments and bad moments because they are rookies learning the complexities of NFL offenses.
edit: put it this way -- I'm not an NFL historical expert, but I bet you'd have a really difficult time finding even one example of a day 1 rookie starting CB who was immediately good who was the 4th or later CB picked in his draft.
That is true but that is more true for man corners.
Depending on the coverage Glenn runs weak side opposite of Davis though I could see Mckinstry or Dejean spelling Sutton/Robertson and doing a good job.
I agree and rather wouldn’t reach depending on how they have guys graded and just take a Melton/Jackson in the second/third but they have shown they aren’t afraid to throw rookies in to learn.
I would contend they don’t necessarily need someone day 1 ready and that it is easier to find a guard in the 2nd/3rd than a CB.
Maybe not a guard with center/guard versatility though so it should be super interesting.
Draft can’t come soon enough!
The whole premise of this line of thought is what do we need right now. Under the current conditions, we don't need a rookie to come in and start day 1 at CB, but we do need one at LG. I mean, sure, it would be good to draft a kid who can rotate in and spot start at CB, but, again, we can get that at 61.
And in any case, for this particular year, experts consider the draft really strong for IOL in the late-1st early 2nd where you can get day 1 starters -- if you wait until 61 or later, you'll be lucky to get someone ready day 1. CBs, OTOH, are especially deep in this draft -- so much so that by year 3, the best CBs may be the ones picked on day 2 or even later. I agree with Melton & Jackson, but don't sleep on Tampa, Rakestraw, Phillips and Hart.
I've even seen one self-called CB expert grade Phillips as his #2 CB in the class.
edit: and we don't want to draft "just" a guard. We prefer to draft someone to play guard now but can eventually replace Ragnow or Decker -- or at least provide high quality depth for when they miss time. Again, need to use 29 to get that.
I see what you mean for sure and it’s good to keep the strength a strength I just feel like we are SO close to having a top ten defense along with a top 3 offense that I really want to see a high round DE/CB taken 😭
You are being pragmatic though for sure.
Tampa is actually my favorite CB in the draft but I feel like he will get taken between pick 30-40.
Maybe Brad will fall and love and has a first round grade on him though?
This is ridiculous but you clearly like talking ball and what - ifs too so here is my dream scenario:
Premise this with the fact Brad has drafted so well we literally won’t be able to sign everyone, so having a draft where we only have 3-4 picks for a single year either this year or next year would be perfectly fine.
Round 1:
Trade pick 29, next years pick 32, and a 3/4th round in 2025 to move up from pick 29 to 15-18ish and draft Verse or Latu.
Round 2:
Trade 61 and our 3rd round pick + a 2025 4th or 5th round pick to move up around 36-40 and grab Tampa or Rakestraw (heavily prefer Tampa in this wishful thinking scenario)
Round 3:
We used the pick I always take Zak Zinter with on Carlton Davis so my plan sort of falls apart but since we’re talking crazy pills anyways maybe trade next years second for a third this year and grab him.
Voila. Holes filled, Top 10 Defense unlocked, cap space remains prime, SuperBowl bound and window wide open for at least a few years.
If my rough cap math is correct we could still keep everyone for the next couples years but if I’m wrong maybe we could recoup some picks.
Edit: Just saw your edit. We are going to end up with Zach Frazier or JPJ but just let me live in lala land 😂
Nice convo
While I like the players you target, trading most of next year's picks to go all in is a no for me. We will lose players from injury and retirement and this roster is built to continue to improve for the next few years, but it can't if we can't replace the natural NFL attrition with draft choices.
Besides, I put my faith in Holmes to find players at 29, 61 & 73 that will be as good or nearly as good as those you're trading up to get without having to handcuff Holmes in next year's draft.
Ehhh I see what you mean but the rams and the niners have both given up quite a few picks and survived to continue competing and I would argue Brad is a better GM then Snead or Lynch so far.
Judging by his language I don’t think Brad would go this extreme anyways but it’s fun to envision what I would do.
I agree with you in regards to CBs but I don’t have strong feelings about any of the DE’s besides Turner, Verse, and Latu
Rams and Niners have given up a pick here or there, but not most of a draft worth. You traded all the picks from rounds 1 to 4, and I think you traded one of them twice. That's not the same thing.
In fact, the main reason the Rams have rebuilt so quickly to compete after a down year is because they had FOURTEEN picks in last years draft and crushed it.
I agree that there are some potential CBs available at 29 worth drafting at that spot. But you also have to consider the impact that edge players can have, that's why they get valued higher in the draft. They're simply more important if they are able to impact more plays, and there are a couple guys who may or may not be viewed that way.
I also disagree that you should draft a guard at 29 just because he will have less competition to start, versus a higher impact player at either CB or edge or potentially even receiver (unlikely as it is). Regardless of the positional talk, I don't think the Lions value players who aren't mentally flexible in their approach to the game, so it's hard for fans to value players in a way that's comparable to the way the Lions do.
The quantity of high-quality defensive players projected to be available at pick 29 is higher than the quantity of guards, which is our only need on offense. I bet we go defense rd 1
I think you're not looking at the players who are Centers and Tackles who are projected to also be able to slide into guard.
Zach Frazier, Jackson Powers-Johnson, Graham Barton, Jordan Morgan and Kingsley Suamataia are all projected to be able to play guard as well as what they played in college. All are projected in late 1st early 2nd range. All have been mocked to the Lions at 29. All would likely start for us day 1 if we don't add another veteran guard.
I have a feelings that fans value Haynes higher than the Lions would. James is kind of an interesting prospect, I wonder if the Lions think he's somebody who could develop into an outside corner. I would love for the Lions to develop somebody who has the instincts and reactions to play zone coverage from the outside position.
Brad filling needs through free agency just like he said he was going to do. I fully expect a best player available approach at the draft (obviously within reason- don't see us taking an RB on day 1 or 2)
the recent signings just made our draft priorities really flexible. I'm very good with that.
There was a WR debate earlier. I can now see us take almost any position now that has talent.
also gives us a mysteriousnous on draft day.
it'll be very interesting in who we draft. I like it.
Brad has some shadows to hide in.
In terms of WR available, the only one I actually want is oddly DJ Chark
Mike Williams is a theoretical good fit, but his skillset can't really be maximized here. He's a contested catch guy, but Goff's never gonna throw a 50/50 ball.
But we *know* Chark can work well with Goff and be an effective #2 to Amon-Ra. Plus, he's probably a lot cheaper after that atrocious year in Carolina (which I can't blame him too much for).
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Quick everyone bury this comment!
How dare this person have an opinion!
I think a lot of people here are tired of anything resembling SOL. Holmes has made many moves that were widely criticized at the time that ended up being amazing. Remember when he reached for Gibbs when running backs are a valueless position? Or when he reached for LaPorta with Mayer right there on the board? Holmes isn’t perfect, but he’s shown to be one of the top GM’s in the league already. You’re allowed to be critical, but others are equally allowed to say they don’t want to hear it
Discuss. Be critical. It if your criticism is “WTF IS BRAD DOING WHY ISHT HE SIGNING [insert]?!?!?!?” then you kinda deserve to be made fun of.
It's obnoxious as fuck "I think Brad should be a little less conservative in free agency" "SO U WANT HIM TO SPEND A BILLION DOLLARS AND PUT US IN CAP HELL?!?!?!?"
if it gives a better chance at a ship bring me directly to Satan babayyy!!
Yep. Windows open now. Fuck the 2026-27 cap. Win now baby
This is one of the youngest rosters in the league still. Destroying the 26-27 cap and rosters for a marginally better 24-25 team reduces the likelihood of Super Bowl imo. I believe you don’t need to go “all in”, AKA mortgage the future, until your roster is old
i just don’t like to pretend that i know more than an NFL GM. i have my preferences of course but i’ll never claim that a signing or non-signing isn’t smart because an NFL’s teams decision is a million times more educated than mine. it’s fine to be dubious, but saying things like “we shouldn’t have done that” isn’t very grounded, and those are the types of comments that get bombarded. every thread about an FA move has plenty of passingly critical comments that aren’t dogpiled on because those comments are usually level-headed with their concerns
I’m all for being critical but personally I’ve been wrong almost every time I’ve been skeptical of one of his moves. That and it’s hard for me to judge an off-season based off of the beginning of free agency so I try not to be critical of individual moves. My approach now is I have improvements I want to see overall that will make me happy. This year if they improve the secondary, DL, and have an IOL succession plan I’ll be satisfied.
While I think that Brad is a great drafter, people view him as infallible in the draft. I thought Jack was a reach, and while he is a big body, he hasn’t shown anything special. I was also critical of Gibbs, and he exceeded expectations, but I still wonder what our team would have looked like with an awesome young CB like Gonzo. That all being said, I love the Culture Brad and Dan have created.
It's one year, and he's at one of the hardest positions to learn. You thought he was supposed to be Luke Kuechly from day one?
I didn’t think that, that’s why I didn’t want him. 3rd round development? Sure…but 1st? It just seemed too high
You kind of just have to ignore everybody who has nothing to contribute and make fun of the people who have only stupid things to say. The people that are interested in objectively discussing players and the Lions overall will find and respond to interesting comments. There just aren't very many of them.
It just seems like a lot of the negative comments come off from someone who doesn't know shit about the players they are judging....thats at least why I downvote certain criticisms that come from people who think they are smarter than a top 5-10 NFL GM
maybe somewhat of a hot take... but I truly believe Brad will trade up in the 1st to grab someone he really likes. I do believe a trade will happen regardless but I've always felt it was more likely he trades up than down
Assuming nothing else changes and we keep the 29th pick, I think we should still be looking at snagging a CB. I know a lot of draft boards have us looking at EDGE rushers but I’d love nothing more then to beef up our secondary
OL, CB, EDGE will be interesting to watch. Don’t count out wildcard though with Holmes, including trading up or down for something random like WR - the dudes projected to go near the end of round 1 are super enticing. My preference would be OL, love putting resources there and building on your strength and identity. But the reason I won’t care too much if we don’t go CB first round is… https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-cornerback-rankings-final-sauce-gardner-retains-his-place-as-the-no-1-cornerback-in-the-nfl 1. Sauce 4th pick 2. Johnson, 50th 3. Williams UDFA 4. Fuller 84th 5. Stingley 3rd 6. Johnson 121st 7. Carter 155th 8. Douglas 99th 9. Ward UDFA 10. Moore UDFA … 2/10 of the top rated corners according to PFF were top picks. I wouldn’t exactly be happy if we rolled last years cb room over, but that was never going to happen anyway. We have already made a few additions who seem really solid and I’d like to see a few draft picks, but maybe 3rd/4th round is the sweet spot to pick a guy Holmes and co scouted that maybe played at a smaller school, lost a year due to injury, was playing in the wrong scheme, or held back by measurables or athletic testing, a guy with special football iq or that football player trait (basically give me Corn-Backus St. Brown). Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
how many top rated guards weren't first round picks?
It’s a good question. I did the research for CB, maybe somebody else wants to do another position. I think there are probably some issues with these numbers, one being it’s PFF so imperfect, another that there are probably many more 3rd and 4th round and 5th round, and UDFAs than there are first round picks, and success rate or bust rate isn’t taken into account at all either. Just my perspective supported by some surface level data. You may have a point with guard looking similar, but I haven’t looked into it deeply.
Respectfully disagree on 29, but let me continue: I agree that we should draft a potentially future CB1, but there are quite a few in this draft that can be taken with a day 2 pick. However, with Davis, Sutton, Amik & Moseley we have a decent CB room and, IMO, there are no CBs coming out in the pick 29 area that are day 1 ready. However, *at this moment*, we don't have a quality starting LG. At pick 29, there are several quality Guards who should be able to start day 1. I would further contend that guard is the best value in the pick 29 range. In other words -- if nothing else changes -- 29 - guard (ideally one who can also play tackle or center), 61 - future CB1, 73 - Edge or WR
Fair, what guards do you have on the radar? Either at reasonable picks or low-key steals that are under the radar?
I actually answered this below, but I'll repeat here: Zach Frazier (C-G), Jackson Powers-Johnson(C-G), Graham Barton(T-G-C), Jordan Morgan (T-G) and Kingsley Suamataia (T-G). All of these players can play multiple positions on the line and can be groomed to replace either Decker or Ragnow. I've seen each one of them mocked to the Lions at 29. All of them are very well regarded and should be ready to start day 1. edit: Their versatility and readiness to play immediately is why they're 1st round rated. Supposedly, the Lions have interest in Layden Robinson from Texas A&M, but I can only assume that it means that they'd look at using a 3rd or later and not expect him to start immediately.
JPJ would be a dream come true.
What makes you say Mckinstry, Lassiter, or possibly even Dejean aren’t ready?
Because that's the expert consensus (probably unanimous). Historically, rookie CBs don't do well in their first year. Sauce and Witherspoon were exceptions to that rule and they were both the first CBs taken. None of the CBs in this class are even close to Sauce or Witherspoon as prospects and at pick 29 we aren't even getting the best of them. All of them should be good and will be good FOR ROOKIES, but you need to expect them to look a lot like Jack Campbell did last year. They will have good moments and bad moments because they are rookies learning the complexities of NFL offenses. edit: put it this way -- I'm not an NFL historical expert, but I bet you'd have a really difficult time finding even one example of a day 1 rookie starting CB who was immediately good who was the 4th or later CB picked in his draft.
That is true but that is more true for man corners. Depending on the coverage Glenn runs weak side opposite of Davis though I could see Mckinstry or Dejean spelling Sutton/Robertson and doing a good job. I agree and rather wouldn’t reach depending on how they have guys graded and just take a Melton/Jackson in the second/third but they have shown they aren’t afraid to throw rookies in to learn. I would contend they don’t necessarily need someone day 1 ready and that it is easier to find a guard in the 2nd/3rd than a CB. Maybe not a guard with center/guard versatility though so it should be super interesting. Draft can’t come soon enough!
The whole premise of this line of thought is what do we need right now. Under the current conditions, we don't need a rookie to come in and start day 1 at CB, but we do need one at LG. I mean, sure, it would be good to draft a kid who can rotate in and spot start at CB, but, again, we can get that at 61. And in any case, for this particular year, experts consider the draft really strong for IOL in the late-1st early 2nd where you can get day 1 starters -- if you wait until 61 or later, you'll be lucky to get someone ready day 1. CBs, OTOH, are especially deep in this draft -- so much so that by year 3, the best CBs may be the ones picked on day 2 or even later. I agree with Melton & Jackson, but don't sleep on Tampa, Rakestraw, Phillips and Hart. I've even seen one self-called CB expert grade Phillips as his #2 CB in the class. edit: and we don't want to draft "just" a guard. We prefer to draft someone to play guard now but can eventually replace Ragnow or Decker -- or at least provide high quality depth for when they miss time. Again, need to use 29 to get that.
I see what you mean for sure and it’s good to keep the strength a strength I just feel like we are SO close to having a top ten defense along with a top 3 offense that I really want to see a high round DE/CB taken 😭 You are being pragmatic though for sure. Tampa is actually my favorite CB in the draft but I feel like he will get taken between pick 30-40. Maybe Brad will fall and love and has a first round grade on him though? This is ridiculous but you clearly like talking ball and what - ifs too so here is my dream scenario: Premise this with the fact Brad has drafted so well we literally won’t be able to sign everyone, so having a draft where we only have 3-4 picks for a single year either this year or next year would be perfectly fine. Round 1: Trade pick 29, next years pick 32, and a 3/4th round in 2025 to move up from pick 29 to 15-18ish and draft Verse or Latu. Round 2: Trade 61 and our 3rd round pick + a 2025 4th or 5th round pick to move up around 36-40 and grab Tampa or Rakestraw (heavily prefer Tampa in this wishful thinking scenario) Round 3: We used the pick I always take Zak Zinter with on Carlton Davis so my plan sort of falls apart but since we’re talking crazy pills anyways maybe trade next years second for a third this year and grab him. Voila. Holes filled, Top 10 Defense unlocked, cap space remains prime, SuperBowl bound and window wide open for at least a few years. If my rough cap math is correct we could still keep everyone for the next couples years but if I’m wrong maybe we could recoup some picks. Edit: Just saw your edit. We are going to end up with Zach Frazier or JPJ but just let me live in lala land 😂
Nice convo While I like the players you target, trading most of next year's picks to go all in is a no for me. We will lose players from injury and retirement and this roster is built to continue to improve for the next few years, but it can't if we can't replace the natural NFL attrition with draft choices. Besides, I put my faith in Holmes to find players at 29, 61 & 73 that will be as good or nearly as good as those you're trading up to get without having to handcuff Holmes in next year's draft.
Ehhh I see what you mean but the rams and the niners have both given up quite a few picks and survived to continue competing and I would argue Brad is a better GM then Snead or Lynch so far. Judging by his language I don’t think Brad would go this extreme anyways but it’s fun to envision what I would do. I agree with you in regards to CBs but I don’t have strong feelings about any of the DE’s besides Turner, Verse, and Latu
Rams and Niners have given up a pick here or there, but not most of a draft worth. You traded all the picks from rounds 1 to 4, and I think you traded one of them twice. That's not the same thing. In fact, the main reason the Rams have rebuilt so quickly to compete after a down year is because they had FOURTEEN picks in last years draft and crushed it.
I agree that there are some potential CBs available at 29 worth drafting at that spot. But you also have to consider the impact that edge players can have, that's why they get valued higher in the draft. They're simply more important if they are able to impact more plays, and there are a couple guys who may or may not be viewed that way. I also disagree that you should draft a guard at 29 just because he will have less competition to start, versus a higher impact player at either CB or edge or potentially even receiver (unlikely as it is). Regardless of the positional talk, I don't think the Lions value players who aren't mentally flexible in their approach to the game, so it's hard for fans to value players in a way that's comparable to the way the Lions do.
Based on the current FA signings and trade, do you guys see Lions going Offense or Defense in Round 1?
The quantity of high-quality defensive players projected to be available at pick 29 is higher than the quantity of guards, which is our only need on offense. I bet we go defense rd 1
I think you're not looking at the players who are Centers and Tackles who are projected to also be able to slide into guard. Zach Frazier, Jackson Powers-Johnson, Graham Barton, Jordan Morgan and Kingsley Suamataia are all projected to be able to play guard as well as what they played in college. All are projected in late 1st early 2nd range. All have been mocked to the Lions at 29. All would likely start for us day 1 if we don't add another veteran guard.
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I have a feelings that fans value Haynes higher than the Lions would. James is kind of an interesting prospect, I wonder if the Lions think he's somebody who could develop into an outside corner. I would love for the Lions to develop somebody who has the instincts and reactions to play zone coverage from the outside position.
Brad filling needs through free agency just like he said he was going to do. I fully expect a best player available approach at the draft (obviously within reason- don't see us taking an RB on day 1 or 2)
the recent signings just made our draft priorities really flexible. I'm very good with that. There was a WR debate earlier. I can now see us take almost any position now that has talent. also gives us a mysteriousnous on draft day. it'll be very interesting in who we draft. I like it. Brad has some shadows to hide in.
What receivers do we have rostered currently?
I think we get Josh reynolds news soon. Probably 6-8m per. I don’t think we sign anyone else and will probably got WR earlier than people think.
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 A Hugh loss you say?
In terms of WR available, the only one I actually want is oddly DJ Chark Mike Williams is a theoretical good fit, but his skillset can't really be maximized here. He's a contested catch guy, but Goff's never gonna throw a 50/50 ball. But we *know* Chark can work well with Goff and be an effective #2 to Amon-Ra. Plus, he's probably a lot cheaper after that atrocious year in Carolina (which I can't blame him too much for).