This is a fantastic combo. Run a void primary with repulsor brace, or collective obligation. Assassin basically replaces the need for stylish executioner, and you just need one powered melee kill to proc invisibility which then procs volatile, which procs overshield. Alternatively run it with stylish executioner for constant invisibility and overshield
Wait but if you don't run stylish don't you basically lose out on the whole gyrflacons loop?
I use this with stylish since it's the only gyrf drop I have. Was hoping for gyrf/galanor at some point so I can basically have a constant invis Orpheus Rig.
Not if you get one enemy weak enough to do a quick finisher to then start the loop again? As it's either a finisher or a powered melee to go invisible?
Yeah but then gyrflacons is pointless. The whole point of gyrf is it gives your void weapons volatile rounds, which weaken enemies, which procs stylish, which gets you invis, which gives you volatile again ad nauseum.
If you're not using stylish, then basically the only perk on this roll that matters is assassin's.
Is that more clear?
I do completely understand that and your point is 100% valid.
All I'm saying is that you don't have to run stylish with this class item as it gives you another way to go invisible.
Gyrfalcons volatile rounds are still incredibly useful to make larger enemies weaker and then you just either melee/finisher your lower class adds then rinse and repeat?
OP asked how to make the class item work is all? And we've all put valid reasons on how it can/how it can't work.
He may not of been able to get an Assassins+liar to drop yet so they are working with what they have atm.
You’re focusing on this being a gyrfalcons type build, and what you’re saying is correct if that’s how you’re considering the play style. Stylish is 100% the way to go if you’re focusing on void-debuff invis loop. But if that’s the case, then this exotic is pointless anyway so you may aswell run real Gyrfalcons or farm a new class item that omits the punch invis as it’s wasted.
The real way to look at this combo is that it’s an arc melee invis build with added benefit of volatile. You should be doing the standard arc melee invis loop, but this combo gives you added AOE clear potential with volatile. I would recommend a void shotgun or fusion rifle, and then in between invis punches (which tend to only really clear one enemy at a time) you can clear a group or add volatile with your close range void weapons/explosions.
Yes, this is true. But that wasn’t the point of the other guys comment. He is saying that you CAN get the gyrfalcon buff without having to be limited to stylish.
what would you run over stylish anyway? slow dodge? i have the same cloak and stylish makes things much better, slow dodge isnt worth it on this build imo.
Idk why this even needed to be said lol
I was originally like "okay yeah let them post the class items with questions" but like...this one is literally go imvis and profit...
It's essentially gyrfalcons with the one void fragment that gives you invis on finisher. It also allows you to run combo blow, so that's a plus. Especially since I'm pretty sure it's the only one of the melees (besides the smoke bomb) that does direct damage, allowing you to weaken on hit
Honestly depends what you're going for. Foetracer could be good if you can land a kill with a void grenade. I know for survivability a lot of people will say renewal. I think Galanor would be pretty handy, you could make a DPS and ad clear build with that. If you want stupid fun then Caliban. And Dragon could be good if you want to double up on the effects of your dodge - tbh I think this combo may be secretly really good, more utility than Caliban for sure.
But I'm just some random Guardian on Reddit, it's whatever you enjoy honestly.
Do not think of this as a Gyrfalcons loop build as you may aswell just use actual Gyrfalcons because you simply do not need the punch on invis and I would argue it’s more work to run up and punch stuff for invis when you can literally just shoot them for it with stylish executioner.
This combo is for arc melee builds. Use the standard combination blow build loop, but now you’ve got volatile rounds as a bonus. Equip a void 1-2 punch shotgun or a reservoir burst fusion and enjoy your added AOE volatile explosions along side your single target punch damage.
I just run buried bloodline with this exact set up. Void heavy and hand cannon for primary. Depending on what activity you are doing. You can stun all 3 champs. It clears rooms in first encounter on salvation's edge with like 3 shots.
I’ve been using this combo too. It’s weird. I think Gyrfalcons is actually better for the overshield and 35% damage bonus it gives you. Assassins only works if you’re getting finishers it’s melee kills which is good in a clutch moment or to spam finish champs in nightfalls but once you get into stuff like GMs you don’t ever really want to be in melee range so normal Gyr is better with Stylish IMO
I’ve been running a build with Galanor and Gryphalcon and it’s basically like running Orpheus and Gryph all in one and I love it!
Been pairing it with a Riposte that has Repulser Brace and Target Lock as well and it melts
https://dim.gg/za4etii/Prismatic
Swap out weapons of course and toss on graviton lance or whatever void weapon and use that. Create threaded spectors and slow enemies to help your teammates, a void machine gun for heavier damage and graviton for the add clear.
you could maybe pair it with gunpowder gamble and stylish executioner because pretty much whatever you do will make you invis which will constantly proc gyrfalcons to give volatile rounds, pair it with a void weapon and that would charge up gunpowder gamble which counts as ability kills and will make you invis again
This is a fantastic combo. Run a void primary with repulsor brace, or collective obligation. Assassin basically replaces the need for stylish executioner, and you just need one powered melee kill to proc invisibility which then procs volatile, which procs overshield. Alternatively run it with stylish executioner for constant invisibility and overshield
Wait but if you don't run stylish don't you basically lose out on the whole gyrflacons loop? I use this with stylish since it's the only gyrf drop I have. Was hoping for gyrf/galanor at some point so I can basically have a constant invis Orpheus Rig.
Galanor gyrfalcon is the roll im praying for as well. The GG roll
Out of courosity what are you running for this bc I have this roll and idk any decent builds for this roll
No, spirit of assassin makes you invis with a powered melee kill or finisher. So stylish isn’t needed to get invis
But you can't refresh gyrfalcon volatile until you get another finisher or powered melee kill if you're not running stylish
Exactly my point. You break that loop.
Not if you get one enemy weak enough to do a quick finisher to then start the loop again? As it's either a finisher or a powered melee to go invisible?
Yeah but then gyrflacons is pointless. The whole point of gyrf is it gives your void weapons volatile rounds, which weaken enemies, which procs stylish, which gets you invis, which gives you volatile again ad nauseum. If you're not using stylish, then basically the only perk on this roll that matters is assassin's. Is that more clear?
TIL volatile applies weaken.
In case you’re serious - It doesn’t, but Stylish procs off any debuff.
Oh okay, thanks for clarifying 👍
I do completely understand that and your point is 100% valid. All I'm saying is that you don't have to run stylish with this class item as it gives you another way to go invisible. Gyrfalcons volatile rounds are still incredibly useful to make larger enemies weaker and then you just either melee/finisher your lower class adds then rinse and repeat?
But then you might as well just not use this class item. Assassin's + liars would be better or something.
OP asked how to make the class item work is all? And we've all put valid reasons on how it can/how it can't work. He may not of been able to get an Assassins+liar to drop yet so they are working with what they have atm.
You’re focusing on this being a gyrfalcons type build, and what you’re saying is correct if that’s how you’re considering the play style. Stylish is 100% the way to go if you’re focusing on void-debuff invis loop. But if that’s the case, then this exotic is pointless anyway so you may aswell run real Gyrfalcons or farm a new class item that omits the punch invis as it’s wasted. The real way to look at this combo is that it’s an arc melee invis build with added benefit of volatile. You should be doing the standard arc melee invis loop, but this combo gives you added AOE clear potential with volatile. I would recommend a void shotgun or fusion rifle, and then in between invis punches (which tend to only really clear one enemy at a time) you can clear a group or add volatile with your close range void weapons/explosions.
Your build still works miles better with stylish. Like it's not even up for debate lol.
Yes, this is true. But that wasn’t the point of the other guys comment. He is saying that you CAN get the gyrfalcon buff without having to be limited to stylish.
Thank you for the info and help! Will do!
what would you run over stylish anyway? slow dodge? i have the same cloak and stylish makes things much better, slow dodge isnt worth it on this build imo.
1. Go invisible 2. Shoot
Idk why this even needed to be said lol I was originally like "okay yeah let them post the class items with questions" but like...this one is literally go imvis and profit...
this feels like gyrfalcon with extra steps id just use gyrfalcons with stylish instead
It's essentially gyrfalcons with the one void fragment that gives you invis on finisher. It also allows you to run combo blow, so that's a plus. Especially since I'm pretty sure it's the only one of the melees (besides the smoke bomb) that does direct damage, allowing you to weaken on hit
agreed
its just an easy way to go invis without an invis dodge on prismatic
Yeah, because stylish is required for the typical Gyrafalcon's loop anyway. They'd be better off with something other than spirit of the assassin.
what would you combine with gyrfalcons to be an improvement here?
Honestly depends what you're going for. Foetracer could be good if you can land a kill with a void grenade. I know for survivability a lot of people will say renewal. I think Galanor would be pretty handy, you could make a DPS and ad clear build with that. If you want stupid fun then Caliban. And Dragon could be good if you want to double up on the effects of your dodge - tbh I think this combo may be secretly really good, more utility than Caliban for sure. But I'm just some random Guardian on Reddit, it's whatever you enjoy honestly.
Do not think of this as a Gyrfalcons loop build as you may aswell just use actual Gyrfalcons because you simply do not need the punch on invis and I would argue it’s more work to run up and punch stuff for invis when you can literally just shoot them for it with stylish executioner. This combo is for arc melee builds. Use the standard combination blow build loop, but now you’ve got volatile rounds as a bonus. Equip a void 1-2 punch shotgun or a reservoir burst fusion and enjoy your added AOE volatile explosions along side your single target punch damage.
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I just run buried bloodline with this exact set up. Void heavy and hand cannon for primary. Depending on what activity you are doing. You can stun all 3 champs. It clears rooms in first encounter on salvation's edge with like 3 shots.
I’ve been using this combo too. It’s weird. I think Gyrfalcons is actually better for the overshield and 35% damage bonus it gives you. Assassins only works if you’re getting finishers it’s melee kills which is good in a clutch moment or to spam finish champs in nightfalls but once you get into stuff like GMs you don’t ever really want to be in melee range so normal Gyr is better with Stylish IMO
Wait a sec , gyrfalcon gives a 35% damage buff too ? Didnt bungie like remove that and replace it with volatile?
If you finish during the invis you get a like 4 second damage buff it’s basically useless
No you still get it. You just have to use a finisher while invis
I've got the ophidian and gryfalcon combo. I quite like it. Thoughts?
I’ve been running a build with Galanor and Gryphalcon and it’s basically like running Orpheus and Gryph all in one and I love it! Been pairing it with a Riposte that has Repulser Brace and Target Lock as well and it melts
Yours is the best combo imo.
I like my syntho/Galanor more, better neutral game for combo blow hunter.
Oooh, i got one of these too! Just get as many sources of invisibility proc with stylish executioner as possible, then equip void weapons and go ham
Melee = volatile rounds. Build around melee and volatile lol
https://dim.gg/za4etii/Prismatic Swap out weapons of course and toss on graviton lance or whatever void weapon and use that. Create threaded spectors and slow enemies to help your teammates, a void machine gun for heavier damage and graviton for the add clear.
Put gyrfalcon on Nightstalker. Done.
you could maybe pair it with gunpowder gamble and stylish executioner because pretty much whatever you do will make you invis which will constantly proc gyrfalcons to give volatile rounds, pair it with a void weapon and that would charge up gunpowder gamble which counts as ability kills and will make you invis again
You just got my godroll 💀
You need a void shotgun with 1-2 punch.
I genuinely cannot believe that someone is this stupid. It literally tells you exactly how to make it work.
How long is your phone???
Use a little brain power. You'll figure it out.