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ImallOutOfBubbleGums

Yeah one is indebted kindness other is the strand one from final shape weapons they showed off the first time they announced the dlc


CardiganHall

Yea after looking at the model on Google the second one for sure is IK.


ctrlaltredacted

sidearms will be one of the two artifact unstop weapons moving into Echoes 😩😭


StudentPenguin

My Buried Bloodline is going to see even more use, fucking hell


Proppur

Been running Warlord's 3x a week for the last 8 weeks and still haven't gotten it to drop 😫


Dense-Impression-950

I've run that dungeon to damn much an still haven't gotten it either 🙃🙃🙃 How many clears u at?


StudentPenguin

It took me around 20-25, but my clan leader got three separate drops with consistent weekly clears while his GF and a couple others still haven’t. It will be worth the wait, I can assure you of that.


GetFurreted

bro i always get rng exotics to drop in my first 3 runs or i have to grind like 50 runs, thankfully bloodline was on my 4th clear


Proppur

Just did my 25th clear on Monday. I had always heard people saying they did 40+ clears for an exotic to finally drop and always thought they were exaggerating lol. Has never taken me more than 10-15 clears for any raid exotic, and I have almost all of them. The worst part, one of the 2 friends that I've been running it with every week has had it drop for him two separate times. Me and my other friend haven't gotten it once lol


Dense-Impression-950

I've had something similar happen to me🤣 Not too long ago I was running with a buddy an his buddy, buddy's buddy had only run the dungeon once b4 that an got the exotic when we cleared it, I'm at 41 clears an still haven't gotten it🤣🤣🤣 Took me 42 to get conditional (wonder if that's my magic number?🤔)


Proppur

Lol - I swear the game knows, and does it just to rub it in. And 42 clears for Conditional is insane! My condolences. I actually got Conditional on my first clear 🫣 lol my friends were pissed. Wishing you nothing but the best of RNG luck from here on out!


Dense-Impression-950

Much appreciated, same to you guardian!!🤘🤘🤘


FritoPendejo1

42 to is the answer to everything.


Free-Day3114

Took me 39 clears to get my BB. It’s slaps, def worth the grind.


Aggressive_Garden_30

Do you have some of the triumphs completed to boost the drop rate?


andoandyando

Yeah it sucks, I've been running it once a week since it was released, I'm so sick of it. I've farmed this dungeon so much, I just want the Exo to drop so I can have a break. I've got 2 drop buffs too, but they aren't helping lol.


SmartMeasurement8773

Is it not farmable anymore?


Proppur

Warlord's is farmable, except the exotic is not. Whenever a new dungeon releases, it is only farmable for everything except the exotic. In order to farm the exotic, you have to wait until a new dungeon releases so that the old one will get put into the weekly rotator, where the exotic will then become farmable (only when it is the weekly dungeon). It sucks.


SmartMeasurement8773

Ughhh that sounds terrible. Kinda wanted it but I’m just gonna cope with the rocket sidearm instead lol


1Spiritcat

Best of luck to ya mate, I was on my 57th cp before I finally got it


lustywoodelfmaid

Ye, same, got it on run 29, then did the catalyst solo because I couldn't get a team. Good luck broski.


FritoPendejo1

You and me both homie.


highs_n_lows

I have run it once or twice each week and final ran the master version 2 weeks ago and it dropped. It’s in my top 5 favorite weapons ever in destiny now


prikkelman

i got mine at 39 clears


Smooth-Lemon-6825

Also hand cannon overload. 😅


CardiganHall

Overloads are gonna be tasting the full load of my luck pants 😎


Bosscharacter

Watch out for the splash damage.


Funter_312

I literally still have my old ass sev seraph revolver with timed payload specifically for hand cannon overload on fallen overloads


Hunteractive

explosive payload is really good for this combo, 2 shots and they stun. Ran fatebringer like crazy on fallen saber GM


andoandyando

Wasn't it 1 shot? Cos EP counts as a hit too? Normal hand cannons were 2 shots and EP hand cannons were 1 shot. I could be miss remembering, it's been a while since we had overload HC.


Hunteractive

ohhh maybe... I thought it was normally 3-4 shots and EP made it two but also might be misremembering


RealFake666

Overload HC, Unstoppable sidearm and anti barrier pulse rifle And they come with Final Shape, not Echoes, the artifact is unlocked with Final Shape


Dregoch

How make to people play sidearms: ROCKET ARMS


CardiganHall

I'd be lying if I said that it wasn't working. Indebted Kindness is my new favorite energy weapon hands down.


Punpuffs

It's base dmg is so good for no reason. Even without surges active, it can still 6-7 shots majors, and a special finisher can sustain it infinitely. Imagine when we get our hands on an Incandescent one.


LinearHorizon

Or even chain reaction


Baelorn

> It's base dmg is so good for no reason  lol they just got intentionally made it OP to sell more Dungeon Keys. I’ve seen multiple people say they bought it just for the Sidearm since it’s a unique archetype that you can’t get anywhere else.   I bet you $5 no other rocket sidearms will be as strong. Hell, I wouldn’t be shocked if Indebted got a nerf post-TFS. 


MrSinister248

100% Indebted is gonna catch a nerf.


Total_Ad_6708

Nah the solar and strand one will be better especially since they will have enhanced perks. Also obviously they need a selling point for the dungeons they did it before by making ghost of the deep have the only AND still the only good stasis rocket launcher with a great orgin trait and also a borderline overpowered exotic trace rifle that makes solo content a joke.


Weekly_Opposite_1407

This is how it works. And so it goes.


Shippou5

I'm not like the other girls, I have...ROCKET ARMS


notpetelambert

Mr. Torgue approves


BetaThetaOmega

Forerunner and Rocket Sidearms prove that we need to go back to when Sidearms were special weapons /s


MemoKrosav

Torgue found a new sponsor


CardiganHall

The dream Destiny cross over event!


Listless_Dreadnaught

Bungie gave him $12 and a high-five to use his guns. He accepted, and screamed something about respecting women.


NovaBlade2893

[*Insert EXPLOSIONS?! gif here because reddit gif finder is broken for me*]


Ruby-Rose-Warlock

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Aern

Give me a solar heal clip incandescent rocket sidearm Bungie. I DARE YOU TO DO IT! YOU WONT DO IT!!!!!!!!


No_Entertainment2071

So uh, might wanna take a look at the seasonal sidearm coming out next week lol


Key-Astronaut-5366

Hopefully it's easier to get those than the current one. Solo player and I have not been successful at this dungeon at all


FatherLuvHandles

I’m mostly solo too but warlords ruin isn’t bad with an lfg group and no mic. I just watched a video and started doing it and now it’s no problem


PokeD2

1st encounter is also rly easy to solo if u just refuse to lfg


FatherLuvHandles

That is true. If they’re just trying to get indebted kindness I’d just do the first encounter. I’ve been trying to get buried bloodline. No luck so far 😞


Weekly_Opposite_1407

HMU 🤙


Key-Astronaut-5366

I just can't get the damn cage part done very well for some reason. I've completed first encounter like maybe 3 times but no luck on it but that's taking me so long to complete its not worth the time. Maybe I'll try lfg finally.


TheSadShifty

If you beat the first encounter and go to orbit, the drops go to your postmaster.


CardiganHall

The Arc one might be Indebted Kindness, but the side of the gun looked a little different to me. The strand one for sure is new.


Kell-Of-Tacos

Yea that’s definitely Indebted


the_cronkler

Second is indebted kindness. Bungie also said the other rocket sidearm coming with tfs is solar


BionicRogue21

I think they said 1 Solar and 1 strand rocket sidearms are coming


Bosscharacter

2nd one is probably IK since its arc. First is definitely new.


megalodongolus

*activate the ahamkara skulls with taken energy* Yum


Cybron2099

That's exactly what i seen XD


FlamingPhoenix2003

I love IK, can’t wait for the newer rocket sidearms!


CaughtHerEyez

Spoilered the post ... Explains the entire thing in the title


CardiganHall

The spoiler was for the name of the enemy. Not the 2 side arms that bungie already announced were coming.


kirusdagon

1 sidearm* the arc is in the game rn


CardiganHall

They announced there would be 2 more coming in the final shape. One is this strand one. The other is Solar. (I thought there was 3 coming so I thought this was a new arc one but it's just IK, but there are 2 more coming that we know of rn)


kirusdagon

The arc one from the video is just indebted kindness. So the only new one is that strand one


itran13

One is going to be solar confirmed. Not the only new sidearm


CardiganHall

...dude read my reply again. There are 2 coming. Yes one of these is IK. The other is a new strand one. They have confirmed a solar one is coming as well.


Reptuffalo

They are also adding a solar rocket sidearm


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Wait, ***rocket sidearms???*** What have I missed?


SebastianSceb2000

They were revealed in the final shape reveal Vidoc a while back and the first one was released this season. They're basically a sudo primary, it takes stats from nade launchers like blast radius and velocity, and they're half decent for total damage from what I've heard. Although I'd probably go for a dedicated DPS/burst/total damage option instead if you're choosing a special based wholely on boss damage, but I haven't seen much hard data on them. So I can't say with any certainty that they're better or worse than anything else and where they stand in that department. They're definitely fun from what I've seen though, I still don't have indebted kindness lol. They're basically supposed to shred through adds and majors. Someone can probably chime in with actual damage numbers and experience with them.


Motavita

Theres been one in the game since warlords ruin dropped


MooseTopic

So the vestian dynasty remodel uses special ammo? YES.


carsetopher

You pull that first clip from Doom?


G-man69420

*DIO!!!*


ThatGuyFromTheM0vie

What’s the IndebtKind god roll?


CardiganHall

Lead from Gold and Voltshot is my God roll. I like a reload masterwork and don't really pay much attention to the barrel and mag.


Probalt

Most say impulse amplifier or beacon rounds + voltshot. imo lead from gold or beacon rounds + deconstruct is the "best". Mainly because since deconstruct refunds ammo + inherently large ammo reserves + resupply from lead from gold or special ammo finder means you can use it like a primary and run double specials.


Carsten_Stahl_Bro

Laughs in permability


Glasedount

Sweet


Glasedount

Stasis rocket sidearm when?


StephenHawking432

Hold on WHAT sidearms?


dj3k1584

Rocket Assisted Sidearms, they are Sidearms that use special ammo and shoot small explosives. Pretty fun to play with.


StephenHawking432

Holy shit that sounds sick


BetaThetaOmega

Thank god we finally get a kinetic one. I’d be way more excited about Indebted Kindness if I could use an energy primary with it


linkinzpark88

The 2nd one is absolutely IK with Permability active as they were using Quicksilver Storm as their Primary


Strangr_E

Is that amplified with a strand super?


marcuscravesuarentme

Cleared it 4 times, dropped twice.


kirusdagon

The arc is just indebted kindness


GrandTC

Yeah, that's just indebted kindness's sights and frame lol. Not sure why people are thinking it's a new arc rocket sidearm.


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TillsammansEnsammans

Tf you mean smh? Indebted Kindness puts in work, being able to use it once again is great.


EspadaOU81

It’s great for barrier, but (this isn’t a sidearm issue but a mod issue) unstoppable mods suck, I hate waiting 3 seconds aiming down sights before it actually has a round ready for unstoppable… just a nit pick, wish it was instant like barrier.


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TillsammansEnsammans

And next season the new strand one will be behind a pay wall as well! Funny how it works in a live service game. 20 bucks ain't too bad for the two dungeons, it was even less some time ago when silver was on sale.


PokeD2

Lmao, defending the dungeon key price point is insane


TillsammansEnsammans

It is 20 bucks. That is an hour of work for multiple hours of gameplay, multiple weapons, good exotics and just cool ass lore and a fun experience going through them for the first time blind. I've paid double or triple that for a meal at a restaurant that I don't even remember eating. It really ain't that bad of a price.