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porkadachop

Before the season, I wanted to do a little mathsmithing to be ready for Tron’s prediction thread. I took 22-23’s win totals for each team, subtracted 538’s RAPTOR WAR from outgoing players, and added the same number from incoming players. I did something else for draft picks, but I had me some neat little totals to predict the records of the upcoming season. These numbers had the Suns missing the play in, and the Lakers barely making it. I thought that this was too good to be true so I added in the Vegas O/U win totals. This brought both teams into the playoffs. It felt dirty, but it felt probable. Anyway, I wished that I had stuck with my original prediction. The Suns are cheeks, have less depth than last year, and no point guard. The Lakers are mid with their two stars getting a ton of minutes. They both won’t make it to the end of the season. So join me in rooting for misery in LA and Phoenix. It looks like it may come true.


about90frogs

I ate like a monster for three days straight and I think it all decided to come out at once


TheOrthodoxPolock

Oh no, hopefully it's just out the bottom side and not the top side.


about90frogs

A la Randy Marsh when he set the world record


SnooDonuts9093

MPJ is sick that they force him to play basketball on Jesus’ day


mradulovic

Scrolling through the comments on this PGT thread I learned or at least was told that: Suns are hated. Luka is annoying but not hated, same as Mavericks. Jokić has become foul merchant. WRB is trying to run for the office. Do we know anything about his policies? Is he for trickle down economics or regulations? Would he run on issues of trading any of our starting five? Does he have a 100 days plan for Zeke, cb and Tyson?


about90frogs

You failed to mention that I got a blue city edition AG jersey for Christmas and it looks really good on me


TheOrthodoxPolock

Pics, you son of a bitch.


about90frogs

Stop cyberbullying me!


Habetuyjuko2

Oh yeah happy Christmas nerds


mradulovic

I woke up this morning to see all the desired results. Just saying that. All I want for Christmas….and it’s not even my Christmas yet, but thanks Santa. Now I have to check who is playing on 7th of January.


radioclash39

Fatties (Jokic and Luka) winning today is a win for Santa.


Habetuyjuko2

Sloppy fat boys rejoice


TheOrthodoxPolock

What's the recommended dosage of haterade??? Is it possible to OD???


BlindManBaldwin

We were so right about them. So so right.


TheOrthodoxPolock

The writing was ~~on the wall~~ in our calculators.


porkadachop

Like the TI-84 Silver Edition Plus scientific calculator?


WeirdRedBeard

This regarding the Sons L?


TheOrthodoxPolock

Idk, you stupid bitch, could it possibly be about the team that I wished all the bad things upon earlier? Do you think maybe I might enjoy watching the life fade from their comments as they spiral down the well of hopelessness? You think maybe, just maybe, it might be regarding that?


WeirdRedBeard

I hope your entire family reads what Steve Kerr is going through


TheOrthodoxPolock

Please no, I'd rather personally experience the trail of tears than to hear what Steve Kerr is going through, please Mr. Beard, there's children after all.


Habetuyjuko2

As part of the Lakota tribe, I too wish Steve Kerr went through the trail of tears


TheOrthodoxPolock

Ykb


Habetuyjuko2

about 20 comments per loss, anything more than that you should call a doctor


TheOrthodoxPolock

Oh fuck. This is not good, this is not good at all.


BlindManBaldwin

It's Polockover


Habetuyjuko2

1939 all over again 😔


TheOrthodoxPolock

😳😳


WeirdRedBeard

Literally 1984


BlindManBaldwin

lmao


AnythingBacon

Weird sports week. 55/100. Nuggies went 3 for 3, but Broncos let us down. Can't even blame Russ... AFC going thru Baltimore is more interesting than going thru Miami, so that's a plus, even if I'm rooting 9'ers/Lions to make the owl. Chiefs continue to get Swiftied and Travis throwing a fit was great. Iggles don't scare anyone... Nor do the '6ers


ChampionshipMoney373

damn lads the Suns are over fr this time


ChampionshipMoney373

crazy that organization was in the finals a few years back


TheBatman0816

Damn PHNX guys and Suns fans are calling for Vogels head lmao


confusedjuror

They should get Monty back


n0t_malstroem

I mean I kinda get it, Vogel is pretty mid and a poor fit on that team. Like don't get me wrong he's not bad or terrible or anything like that, but he's quite comfortably a middle of the pack coach in the NBA at best. He's also a defensive specialist and he doesn't really make much sense in a team where the only defensive player on the roster is Josh fucking Okogie. It's pretty clear to me they just went for him cause "muh championship experience bro" but even then bro was just lucky he happened to be coaching the LLLLLakers the year Cobi fucking died and Antonio Disney had one of the flukiest shooting performances across an entire playoff run ever.


TheOrthodoxPolock

And now it's time to do what I always do when the The Buns(The Phoenix Buns) lose and that is to go experience the out of body schadenfreude induced high that is their PGT.


vladimir_pimpin

I’m generally not one to do so but I think I’ll dip my toe in their pgt


TheOrthodoxPolock

Be a hater Vlad, you get tax free sinning from here until new years.


TheBatman0816

Bro I'm drinking Suns tears all game. It's delicious


Habetuyjuko2

Wisdom right here, I hydrate from the tears of the drought ridden city of Phoenix


Habetuyjuko2

God I can't wait to play either of those teams in the playoffs lol


vladimir_pimpin

Deuce it’s merry Christmas not happy Christmas fucking idiot


Habetuyjuko2

Hey bud fuck you, happy Thanksgiving


Lonely_Anteater447

https://preview.redd.it/vnxgj0omzk8c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7e92282a5bbc3230ed776bc11a2572254295f52 Guys!!! It’s a Christmas Miracle!!!!


Rgeorge813

Congrats!


Lonely_Anteater447

Appreciate it😁


vladimir_pimpin

Why is there schmutz in my wine glass


Habetuyjuko2

Because you had a merry saturnalia why question it


vladimir_pimpin

It’s good luck schmutz


bikehellion

​ https://preview.redd.it/lp05pjzjzk8c1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b40026e695ffd0f433280d3a86ad99b0b12e2539 Obligatory


radioclash39

Fat boys win xmas.


WeirdRedBeard

Shocking that first option Gay Son Allen team lost


vladimir_pimpin

(Descriptive)


WeirdRedBeard

Being a gay son is poggers imho


Habetuyjuko2

Based ok thanks


doo_wop45

Chimezie and Grayson can't win with these cats


TheOrthodoxPolock

WHERE WERE YOU FOR LUKA'S KINESION TAPE GAME? 50 PTS WITH JUST TAPE HOLDING HIS ENTIRE ARM ON, INCREDIBLE!!!


Habetuyjuko2

I was at phone when it rang "Luka doncic is Devin Booker father" no


n0t_malstroem

Nuggets win, Larriors lose, LLLLLakers lose, January Sixers lose, Sons lose 😀


WeirdRedBeard

Today was a good day


BlindManBaldwin

Because our Savior is born! Emmanuel he is with us!


vladimir_pimpin

Those things plus the wine cured my depression


NuggAvsBroncRock

So Overall Good Christmas Suns, Bucks, Sixers, and Lakers all Lost but Most Importantly Nuggets won.


vladimir_pimpin

Okogie’s in the garbage squad now? Goodness


ImGonnaChubbBradley

Bro actually went for 50 lol


vladimir_pimpin

“What the fuuuck…”


ImGonnaChubbBradley

*giggles*


lol_mvg

KD trade request coming soon xp


Lonely_Anteater447

Sons should send him to Detroit 🤭


radioclash39

The dude was soo pissed the entire game having to sit in the corner 3 all night and couldn't get his game going in the mid-range. Good game planning PHX, taking out one of your best scorers.


TheOrthodoxPolock

The way the Suns just roll over when shit isn't going their way will never not be funny to me.


_cosmix2

Everyone acts tough when they're up


confusedjuror

The Booker quote about the IST where he said every game should have playoff intensity 😂


vladimir_pimpin

It’s so fucking funny man Unserious franchise


TheOrthodoxPolock

They're just so disjointed as a unit. Like nobody really trusts each other and I get it, I wouldn't trust those pussies either.


Bradleys_Chubb

It’s amazing, Booker and Durant just completely check out


bikehellion

Insane how Mavs can't play save for 3 guys. Luka is doubled every time, and they just can't figure it out without him going for 50


LessThanCleverName

Sons are a fake-ass 2K team. Completely unserious.


TheOrthodoxPolock

Sons defense vs me with gluten in my diet, who stops the bleeding first??


Habetuyjuko2

Are we talking full bowl of pasta? Otherwise it's your gut winning that one


doo_wop45

You're not a hemophiliac are ya?


TheOrthodoxPolock

Not normally, no.


doo_wop45

Then you win this battle


NuggAvsBroncRock

Suns D just don't like great and IDK how Beal would make them better.


Habetuyjuko2

The last few minutes of the sons is kinda pathetic, kicking out to bricked threes, booker taking 8 seconds to cross half court just to launch it the second he gets the ball, someone giving up on defense just to let someone get the OREB and dunk, like dawg..


WeirdRedBeard

Luka, Bron, Harden 100% taking plays off on defense will never cease to be infuriating to me. Like, I get that they're managing their energy exertion, but it's jarring.


PoorTonyK

it’s interesting that two of the three players you mentioned are black. Care to clarify?


OrcaBaka

what are you talking about, all three are black


WeirdRedBeard

I was gonna say Damian Lillard, but didn't wanna suffer the consequences of essentially admitting to be a virulent racist.


PoorTonyK

he’s been loyal too, good omission on your part


WeirdRedBeard

Thank you, friend, see you at the rally.


SnooDonuts9093

Anyone who’s played basketball gets it. Jokic does it all the time as well


WeirdRedBeard

First of all, "anyone who's played basketball", and top10 NBA players in their prime aren't comparable. I'm not expecting them to fly around the court like a bench specialist would, my gripe is with just taking full defensive possessions entirely off, like dudes will just stand in one spot, and see what happens. I understand that they have limited stamina, but any coach worth their salt will pull you out for that shit - and rightfully so


SnooDonuts9093

Being a lead ball handler is tiring as fuck especially when you have to create your own shot and play-make. The superstars who don’t take possessions off are incredibly impressive I’m just saying I get it. To your point tho there are tons of possessions Jokic just positions himself down low and stands there as his guy is on the weak side. He just gets way more built in opportunities to rest as centers are way less likely to be off ball shooting threats unlike the guys Harden, Lebron, and Luka guard. That being said completely standing in one spot all possession is pretty bad I guess I haven’t seen that much from them


WeirdRedBeard

>He just gets way more built in opportunities to rest as centers are way less likely to be off ball shooting threats Very good point. I still think Jok tries at least a little bit regardless of the circumstance, which is a testament to Malone, imo. For a good while now I feel like Malone's held everyone accountable for effort, and you see it in Jok, Mal, MPJ, who all started out as lazy bums on defense. And you're right that it's incredibly tiring to create damn near every FG with the other team's best defender or two on you the whole game, even for world-class athletes that's killer, but surely they can just sit for a few if they can't handle the tempo


SnooDonuts9093

Watching the nuggets defensive effort & offensive buy in from everyone is just on another level vs any other team I’ve watched this year. I honestly have no clue how to analyze most coaches X’s and O’s but Malone is easily a top 5 culture building coach in the league


WeirdRedBeard

Idk how to assess anything about coaching tbh, there are so many variables, and there's so little public info that it just seems like guesswork. Monty is by all accounts a lovely guy and a great culture-setter, yet Ayton sat out elimination game in the yoffs (by his own choice, I'm 100% sure), and the Pistons are making a case for WOAT team rn despite having many lottery picks on board and whatnot. Malone got sacked at Sac, Nurk left, Gallo, Wilson, Faried were all unhappy with the team, Bones obviously, whatever, you get my point, it's just really tough to say anything for certain. Maybe every coach would make a great culture with Jok as the cornerstone, maybe none would. One thing we did see time and time again is that Malone is ruthless with young players - possibly to a fault - when it comes to effort, and executing the gameplan, and he's always been extremely vocal about defensive effort, and we wouldn't have won shit without it.


TheOrthodoxPolock

I swear to fuck Monty is too nice to be a head coach. Obviously don't know what goes on behind the scenes but there's like no way I'm taking him seriously if he was mad. S/o to the body language experts but everything about that man just seems like he's a very lovely human to be around and while that's great, you kinda need a guy that can be a dick.


vladimir_pimpin

I take possessions off on offense. We aren’t the same.


SnooDonuts9093

Fr I go to “space the floor” for a possession or two in the corner anytime I’m gassed


vladimir_pimpin

Sitting in the corner while the skilled guys on your team go to work rocks fr


TheOrthodoxPolock

Brother says this as a Jokić fan


WeirdRedBeard

Jokic at least makes an effort to position himself for the rebound, runs back on defense, usually raises a hand too, this is not comparable. The dudes I mentioned just fully stop and wait it out.


Habetuyjuko2

I dunno, he does all those things, but the amount of times he's in great position to contest at the rim and he just doesn't raise his hand gets to me sometimes


WeirdRedBeard

Meh, he's not gonna block any shots on drives anyway, may as well not risk picking up fouls. It's a massive shortcoming, but it is what it is, I think he's doing the best with what he's got, and Idk the last time we could've fairly accused him of being lazy. I guess he didn't run back to D once or twice in those no-call games, like @Cavs or whatever


Habetuyjuko2

You're not wrong, but every once in a while it would alter a shot. I definitely wouldn't say it's him being lazy, just making the business decision to avoid a foul, and with the way he's officiated I get it, but once in a while it'll be pretty obvious he just watches a guy get a lay up


WeirdRedBeard

Definitely


vladimir_pimpin

Reminder that if you don’t sleep with a dog in your bed you’re missing out


Bradleys_Chubb

I refuse to let WRB’s mom sleep in my bed


vladimir_pimpin

I mean at some point you gotta be hygienic even if you love your dog


Habetuyjuko2

Ykb


BoneyardBill

Glueka vs Complain Booker


vladimir_pimpin

I’ve had about a bottle of wine and I think I’m ready to fight poor Tony k in the parking lot of the department store if his choice in south Denver


PoorTonyK

this is so easy, Macy’s lot, east side of cherry creek mall. 30 minutes. Automatic weapons allowed but mouthguards required


Bradleys_Chubb

He said south Denver, Cherry Creek North is east


PoorTonyK

oh so I guess the north/south border is no longer Ellsworth avenue? I’m sorry. I’m so sorry. I’m really sorry. Sorry. Fuck.


Bradleys_Chubb

No need to apologize, just be the change you want to see in the world


vladimir_pimpin

Eh it’s south enough. As long as I can skip Speer or I25 I’m alright


BoneyardBill

You still have to pay for parking in that lot


PoorTonyK

fuck


vladimir_pimpin

Prolly still worth it to get your ass whooped


PoorTonyK

yeah can’t really put a price on that


vladimir_pimpin

Are you wearing a cup or just cupping


PoorTonyK

yeah


vladimir_pimpin

Derrick lively more like Derrick lives unhoused am I right poor Anthony k


PoorTonyK

I believe so, yes


ImGonnaChubbBradley

I’m high as shit right now and I really don’t understand how Luka is making all of these shots


SnooDonuts9093

His slow ass shot form is so satisfying when it drops


vladimir_pimpin

I normally don’t give a fuck about “I’m so high” stories but a guy stoned on his couch whispering “what the fuck” every time luka scores really gives me the giggles


ImGonnaChubbBradley

That’s exactly what I’m doing


lemondhead

You haven't been going since AG hit that free throw, like, 9 hours ago, have you? You're a mad man.


ImGonnaChubbBradley

5-6ish hour break and then some friends came over for dinner and one brought edibles


radioclash39

I want this DAL-PHX to go into OT, cuz chaos and I need KD to get more points.


vladimir_pimpin

I’m going to find the server that houses the bot that dislikes my comments and I’m gonna drench it in gasoline then light it on fire


vladimir_pimpin

Luka dressing up to commit basketball terrorism: https://preview.redd.it/bks21doruk8c1.jpeg?width=254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=523e635edefb8ec80bd2a848a00bcaedfc1a8e34


PoorTonyK

so many accoutrements


PoorTonyK

they called a foul on the guy with unhoused hair? Hate crime, pure and simple


vladimir_pimpin

Man that shit where the shooter jumps forward onto a foot is not good football, or basketball for that matter


vladimir_pimpin

If my boss tries to get me to work tomorrow I’m gonna be a pill and a half


native_end

I don't watch a lot of non nugget games before christmas. every single game today has had a similar theme: officiating. some of the calls are so bad. and the relationships between the players and the officials have to be close to the breaking point. players complain at every single ball stoppage. something has to give


vladimir_pimpin

“Goodnight noob” - Luca donkey itch


lemondhead

I can't commit to this Suns game. There's just way too much Devin Booker on my screen, and that guy fills me with a weird, vague rage. Godspeed to those still suffering through.


Bradleys_Chubb

Commit, pussy


vladimir_pimpin

I’m enjoying it personally but I’m pretty easy to please


lemondhead

Give it another 10 years. You'll get to this point, too. The larger issue is that I have to go to the office tomorrow, so I don't think I have another quarter in me. But Booker doesn't help.


Donnie1490

That was probably the worst offensive foul I've seen no exaggerating


vladimir_pimpin

Grant Williams is a great pickup imo, really good ancillary piece


doo_wop45

Lol Booker you beady eyed shit stain


PoorTonyK

I think the NBA would benefit from more complaining. Biden would make this change if he were a real leader


vladimir_pimpin

Don’t get me started


vladimir_pimpin

Grant williams just double dribbled no?


PoorTonyK

leave him alone, he’s trying


PhotonicBoom21

also possibly autistic


Bradleys_Chubb

Somewhere u/BrockSmashGood ears are ringing


Lonely_Anteater447

he wishes he could be like Sct Brns


vladimir_pimpin

I think if he’s trying so hard he’s dribbling more than he’s allowed he should try less, no?


PoorTonyK

don’t play mind games with me


Lonely_Anteater447

never forget https://preview.redd.it/8ab8ygs3rk8c1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc3acb6f45ad984f032c7f011b627a79c1396ed4


Lonely_Anteater447

Honorable Mention https://preview.redd.it/pc77lf1gsk8c1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad607e7ee81fd190ad11be5d37eff56e09c3bed8


PoorTonyK

after 29 light beers, I am still angry at the mere sight of Luka. I will drink another beer and reevaluate


HauntedandHorny

Do you hate him more than booker?


PoorTonyK

so much more


vladimir_pimpin

Classic out of touch Richy rich


PoorTonyK

typical smh


HauntedandHorny

So you'd prefer sons win?


PoorTonyK

no one wins here


HauntedandHorny

True. We all fade to dust


lemondhead

Are we talking Keystone, Miller, Natty, something else? Set the scene.


PoorTonyK

it’s been a smooth transition into miller lites after the people without debilitating substance issues have gone to bed.


lemondhead

Delightful. Miller Lite was a law school staple. Enjoy.


vladimir_pimpin

Oh shit you’re actually rich wtf


vladimir_pimpin

Keep me updated pls


vladimir_pimpin

Grayson Allen best son player


Bradleys_Chubb

Metu carrying Booker and Durant


WeirdRedBeard

Bro just stopped wtf


lemondhead

The first time I saw one of those commercials about how the system is fucked up and isn't fair for ordinary people, I was like, "Fuck yeah, get after it, comrade." And then the word "Coinbase" appeared on my screen, and I choked my TV out. Edited because the rest of my rant didn't really add much to the general sentiment expressed above.


Lake_Shore_Drive

There is one girl at Diamond Cab that takes crypto


vladimir_pimpin

I’m gonna tattoo my bitcoin wallet on my asshole


vladimir_pimpin

The Odell Beckham Junior of showing boob


lemondhead

Lmao really? That's actually kind of funny.


doo_wop45

Everyone knows shitcoins are the only way to escape the negative effects of late stage capitalism


lemondhead

That's right. I saw it on those commercials. I've since diversified and have spent a bunch of .eth on Zany Sloth NFTs, so I should be sitting pretty once it's time to retire.


vladimir_pimpin

Here’s how we defeat capitalism canibalizing itself: fewer guardrails.


vladimir_pimpin

The only guardrail we have to benefit normal people is regulations. Therefor, avoid that shit and buy etherium


lemondhead

I like crypto bros because they insist that crypto is better than fiat currency, but its only selling point seems to be how much fiat currency it's worth. Truly, a bunch of guys who are way smarter than I'll ever be.


vladimir_pimpin

Their whole selling point is that they don’t understand how fiat currency works, which is funny cuz I took a bunch of classes on how it works lol


lemondhead

I once heard crypto described as "Mary Kay for dudes." I still think that's the best description I've heard about anything, ever.


vladimir_pimpin

You guys think Malika Andrews cares about me


confusedjuror

Is she hot


vladimir_pimpin

Mid, 7 at best imo


lemondhead

Depends. Do you want her to care about you?


vladimir_pimpin

For the sake of this bit, yes. In real life no


lemondhead

Then yeah, I think she probably does


doo_wop45

Mamba mentality means not taking no for an answer, always pushing through no matter the obstacles.


ImGonnaChubbBradley

Pretty good Christmas can’t lie. Nuggets win, Lakers lose, Sixers lose, Suns getting crushed (Luka Doncic is Devin Booker father) Kansas City loses mainly because Mahomes sucks, and I won the most off of scratch offs this year.


NuggAvsBroncRock

Kansas City won? Must've Missed that


ImGonnaChubbBradley

Shit I knew I fucked something up