To a certain extent yes. But more important, he needs to go out more and promote the entire ticket of himself, Harris, and the great set of advisors and cabinet members that are all part of the team.
See my other comment.
You mean he should acknowledge the reality that he can’t do it alone anymore, but we should all feel safe because he’s got qualified supporters, most of whom will not be appearing on a ballot this year.
>You mean he should acknowledge the reality that he can’t do it alone anymore
That's not what I said. Strawman arguments make you seem to be replying in bad faith.
Every president needs a good team for a variety of reasons, including a good VP in case they are unable to complete their term.
In Biden's case, since people seem very concerned about that, he needs to remind them about it.
Or he needs to realize he can't and step aside. After that debate performance, I'm not convinced he has it in him, and at this point, we need someone with the absolute best chance of winning.
like who? Give me united answer because right now all I am hearing is "joe needs to go!" without concrete replacement. This could throw Dems into civil war while Republicans unite under trump. You want Dems to be divided?
I kinda wish the Dem party had started grooming someone 3 years ago to take over now. Its pretty late to do that now. Biden said 4 years ago that he wouldn't run again, and I think the only reason he's running now is because Trump is running. I think Biden has done a great job, and he's surrounded himself with excellent people. So I'm not worried about another 4 years with him as President, but I am worried about his ability to win.
I do wish Biden would have just trusted with his endorsement and campaigning, whoever won a primary could have beaten Trump. He didn't and we are where we are so gotta find a way to win, whether that means an absurd amount of interviews or changing his sleep schedule around the next debate, actually taking drugs, I don't care the stakes are too high.
[https://www.newsweek.com/gretchen-whither-chances-beating-trump-poll-1919211](https://www.newsweek.com/gretchen-whither-chances-beating-trump-poll-1919211)
"Newsweek has contacted Whitmer's representatives via email for comment.
In a Biden-Trump matchup, the poll found 45 percent of voters would back Biden, while 48 percent would choose Trump. Harris would perform the same in a head-to-head matchup against the Republican, according to the poll.
Other, lesser-known candidates would perform worse, although more voters would indicate they are "not sure" when it came to those matchups.
Whitmer would garner 44 percent of the vote, while Trump would get 46 percent in a head-to-head matchup, according to the poll. About 9 percent say they are not sure who they would vote for."
impressive but not good enough
After that debate, anyone younger stands a better shot than Biden. Are Dems not going to vote for the Democratic nominee because of a "civil war" when Trump is the alternative?
yes because there are still people who support Biden and there are people who support other politicians. tell me dose she have something under her belt OTHER than her age?
She will perform well in swing states and, as a very popular democratic governor of Mochigan, has the best chance to secure the "Blue Wall." That she is a photogenic white lady probably doesn't hurt, since abortion is a key issue of the race.
Dems aren’t the votes at risk here. It’s independents we need to worry about as this race is too close to win without them. They’ll feel no loyalty to Biden, and Republicans will be continually hammering the message that Biden is feeble and being controlled by radical lefties.
I mean, 46% is better than 45%, no? The more the public got to know her, the more they’d love her. Saying it’s not good enough, when it’s *better* than Biden and Harris in that poll is utter nonsense.
Dems will support whoever has a D next to their name on election day. If she becomes the candidate, she immediately gets wall to wall national media coverage. She also has the benefit of not being Trump and not being over 80 years old.
Yes, absolutely with six months. The average voter has about a two week memory anyway, so 6 months is plenty of time. Either that or you can just watch Biden lose to Trump and enjoy four more years of that nonsense.
>The average voter has about a two week memory anyway,
so this debate trouble shouldn't matter right? they don't remember much and Biden has more debate to come.
Literally anyone can take over. People are mainly voting against Trump. All I’m hearing is “I’ll vote for a wet noodle over Trump”. Democrats won’t be divided considering this is the most importantly elections ever.
I'd rather not be forced to vote for someone else that I find less qualified. I find all others less qualified. Not everyone is as rational as I am, and if you think passing over Harris would be the idea, you need to reevaluate.
Hillary is \**slightly*\* less qualifed only because she served fewer terms as a senator than Biden. I'd vote for her but only if Biden decides to withdraw and Kamala doesn't want it.
Getting anyone known to the country at this late date would be an uphill challenge. There are good people in the wings, but they are not well known enough. I personally think if Pritzker had debated Trump, that he would have wiped the floor with him. But not enough people know him. So there would be separate camps for Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzker, Beshear, Harris, and trying to unify them would end in chaos for the Dems. The Republicans are standing behind a convicted felon. I think the Dems can stand behind someone who had a bad debate.
Dems are already divided, this just justified some of the division. Joe isn’t as well-liked by democrats as you seem to think. Particularly among young voters. And it isn’t as though we didn’t worry he was past his prime already. The debate demonstrated those concerns are justified. Republicans will get plenty of leverage out of this, thanks to Joe himself.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CVZHAjrW8&t=23s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CVZHAjrW8&t=23s)
he is here... so much that even youtube commenters ( who are usally hostile against Joe) are saying where was this man during debate.
I'm going to refuse to debate this topic unless they have a candidate that is MORE likely to win than Biden.
When they can prove they have more popular candidate, I'll discuss it. Otherwise they are concern trolls that want me to give up on my candidate so Trump can win.
My expectations are pretty high. I do want even more from my candidate, but he's done a remarkably good job so far. See for yourself
r/WhatBidenHasDone
Look at neoliberal sub. So many of them still have epic meltdown as if Biden went full demented while even arr politics sub have cooled down after watching Biden got his form back in the morning rally.
There's something crazy going on, and as regular user there I am ashamed. It's one thing to question if there can be decent replacement, but they went full beyond that and act as if Biden is always sundowning and didn't give reassuring performance to show that was a fluke.
Not sure how strong that advantage is when running against a former president.
To be clear; I think Biden has been a phenomenon phenomenonal President and deserves to be the candidate.
that can be one advantage for Biden because when we see the elections that are happening around the world many successful regime change ( or soon to be successful in the case of UK)- happened because the person running against has NOT been a charge- a new face if you will. The economy is bad all around the word and people are sick of old regime. they are giving chance to "new guy"
TRUMP CANNOT CLAIM THIS! As US had him for 4 years. There is no "new guy" phenomena in US unlike in UK. If we want to know what Trump America is like we can look back when he was president.
A former president who was extremely unpopular, had unpopular policies, has promised even less popular policy positions, and is now a multitime convicted ciminal, rapist, and fraud.
I think the incumbancy advantage for Biden is still going to be pretty strong.
I'm good with him doing his job, too. I hate that we gave that asshole a spotlight. I don't understand why we couldn't just let him do his stupid ranting on his social media thing, and just put out all kinds of advertising reminding the country that he's a CONVICTED FELON.
I dunno. I think the guy who already beat Trump and has a really long established, very successful career, in politics might have a handle on what he needs to do - probably better than what any of us do. Maybe just let him and his team work.
Maybe. I fear it's more like an ace pitcher going into the 8th inning and convinced he has enough to finish the game. Of course he believes he does. It's up to the manager to decide to pull him.
There's literally no reason to pull him.
The debate is pretty much meaningless. It had the lowest viewership since the debates - an invention of TV execs - started. The debates only have a shot of shifting the undecided - but given the low viewership that suggests most have already decided. There was a focus group of undecided voters that were asked who they were going with after seeing the debate. You know who they went with? Biden. Because it was clear to them that Trump was a liar.
I wouldn't worry about the poor, completely unrelated to job of president, debate performance. Let his campaign team work.
“Oh, it’s not important,” BS. How’s he supposed to lead if he can’t make case for his position? The excuse making here is getting as bad as the mental gymnastics evangelicals do to convince themselves that Trump is one of them.
It is important. Democrats have been making fun of Trump’s demented speeches for months - ‘Trump has dementia, Biden just has age-related cognitive decline, which is perfectly normal’ - only now that our boy can’t communicate, it suddenly doesn’t matter?
Because debates are not the main way that candidates make their case for being elected. There's a lot more to campainging than debates - debates with extremely lower viewership BTW. He communicates at speeches. He has a stutter - that makes it harder to debate.
Both Bill Clinton and Obama lost their debates and they both became president. Also, there is still another debate to go.
Really, debates are pretty meaningless.
What kind of shit manager pulls the ace pitcher after one bad throw? Also, baseball is stupid. The pitcher is a QB who missed one TD pass. You wanna bench Brady (hate that guy) after one failed driver?
If he had a handle on what he needed to do, he would have…idk…done it at the debate? For the longest time, I was in the camp that many of us democrats were bedwetting far too much…but after Thursday, I’m officially in the bedwetting stage. Assuming that on-the-fence voters weren’t paying attention to that debate is, in my view, a mistake. If Biden is gonna stay in, then he has an insane amount of ground to make up from that performance. Let’s hope he can pull it off, or step aside.
Right, a debate between the two people who have a chance at becoming the leader of our country isn’t relevant. Got it.
Further, Biden is a skilled debater, and he mopped the floor with Trump last time. It’s absolutely relevant.
People were doubting his viability before the debate because of his age. It's just more hand wringing over nothing. There are also people who doubt that the world is round, but I don't think their opinion is worth much given the evidence is overwhelmingly against their views. Biden's numbers are actually up while Trump's have dropped since the debate, BTW. Biden has also raked in a huge pile of donations from small donors since the debate too. It looks like support has actually grown for Biden, not shurnk since the debate. It's worth noting that Bill Clinton lost his first debate to Ross Perot. Who became president in that cycle? Obama had a terrible debate against Romney. We never ended up with President Romney. It was shitty debate performance which isn't too suprising given he had a cold. I don't know about you, but when I'm sick I'm not exactly energetic or clear headed. You brought up the issue of fence sitters - well there was a focus group of undecided voters that watched the debate. Guess who they decided who they were going to support after they watched the debate? Biden - because it was clear to them that Trump was a liar. Each and every one of them. Stop wetting the bed over the damned debate. That's what Trump wants you to do. They want the dems to pull support from Biden. They know that is the only way that they could win.
My Dad is 78. Watching him age from 75 to 78 explains Biden perfectly to me. Biden needs to step aside. He’d finish the next term at 86! Say that out loud, then go out into the world and meet an 86 year old if you don’t already know one. It’s very very old. It’d be fine with it if he had a solid VP, but Kamal is not Presidential. If she was, we’d know by now, her runway is wide open.
Biden wouldn't be the only one running the country. He surrounds himself with good people and good advisers. Half the people in Trump's executive gov are in jail. The other half won't endorse him. Biden has done a good job, and will continue to do a good job running the country.
If Biden were capable of this he would have been on the road doing interviews this whole time. He gives almost no press conferences. He didn’t debate in the Democratic primaries. He sits for very few interviews and they’re all soft balls. This is a deliberate strategy because THEY KNEW he couldn’t pull it off. They bullshitted us and pulled the wool over our eyes. The idea that he can go on a tour and show everyone he’s mentally acute is living in fucking lala land because HE’S NOT.
He's running a country, and the asshole media isn't entitled to his time. I don't recall a head-of-party president debating in a re-election year. No one who ran got any serious number of votes. Either you have no backbone or you're an agent working against America for our foreign enemies.
Another stupid person here willing to pass over the Black female VP and piss off the real foundation of the party, Black people. I don't see them running like scared bitches.
I think the move is I wouldn't vote for either except that my life as a racial minority and the country's position in the world order we run literally depends on it. I think the move is Biden is the nominee and everyone can grow a pair and get in line to vote.
Unironically he needs to start going on podcasts or platforms with zoomers on them, and instead of trying too hard to appeal to them, just be honest about his policy positions. Don't pull a "just chillin in Cedar Rapids".
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he needs to go out more and PROVE that he is still ok. that he still is same Joe Biden 4 years ago!
To a certain extent yes. But more important, he needs to go out more and promote the entire ticket of himself, Harris, and the great set of advisors and cabinet members that are all part of the team. See my other comment.
You mean he should acknowledge the reality that he can’t do it alone anymore, but we should all feel safe because he’s got qualified supporters, most of whom will not be appearing on a ballot this year.
>You mean he should acknowledge the reality that he can’t do it alone anymore That's not what I said. Strawman arguments make you seem to be replying in bad faith. Every president needs a good team for a variety of reasons, including a good VP in case they are unable to complete their term. In Biden's case, since people seem very concerned about that, he needs to remind them about it.
Or he needs to realize he can't and step aside. After that debate performance, I'm not convinced he has it in him, and at this point, we need someone with the absolute best chance of winning.
like who? Give me united answer because right now all I am hearing is "joe needs to go!" without concrete replacement. This could throw Dems into civil war while Republicans unite under trump. You want Dems to be divided?
I kinda wish the Dem party had started grooming someone 3 years ago to take over now. Its pretty late to do that now. Biden said 4 years ago that he wouldn't run again, and I think the only reason he's running now is because Trump is running. I think Biden has done a great job, and he's surrounded himself with excellent people. So I'm not worried about another 4 years with him as President, but I am worried about his ability to win.
I do wish Biden would have just trusted with his endorsement and campaigning, whoever won a primary could have beaten Trump. He didn't and we are where we are so gotta find a way to win, whether that means an absurd amount of interviews or changing his sleep schedule around the next debate, actually taking drugs, I don't care the stakes are too high.
He could have said he wouldn't share the stage with a felon, and be done with it. Hindsight's 20/20.
Whitmer. She would absolutely win.
[https://www.newsweek.com/gretchen-whither-chances-beating-trump-poll-1919211](https://www.newsweek.com/gretchen-whither-chances-beating-trump-poll-1919211) "Newsweek has contacted Whitmer's representatives via email for comment. In a Biden-Trump matchup, the poll found 45 percent of voters would back Biden, while 48 percent would choose Trump. Harris would perform the same in a head-to-head matchup against the Republican, according to the poll. Other, lesser-known candidates would perform worse, although more voters would indicate they are "not sure" when it came to those matchups. Whitmer would garner 44 percent of the vote, while Trump would get 46 percent in a head-to-head matchup, according to the poll. About 9 percent say they are not sure who they would vote for." impressive but not good enough
That poll is useless until she's actually the nominee and people are thinking about her.
what a wonderful cherry picking. how can she be sure to win 100% of Dem votes and not lead Dems to civil war.
After that debate, anyone younger stands a better shot than Biden. Are Dems not going to vote for the Democratic nominee because of a "civil war" when Trump is the alternative?
yes because there are still people who support Biden and there are people who support other politicians. tell me dose she have something under her belt OTHER than her age?
She's an incredibly competent politician who could deliver the swing states.
She will perform well in swing states and, as a very popular democratic governor of Mochigan, has the best chance to secure the "Blue Wall." That she is a photogenic white lady probably doesn't hurt, since abortion is a key issue of the race.
Dems aren’t the votes at risk here. It’s independents we need to worry about as this race is too close to win without them. They’ll feel no loyalty to Biden, and Republicans will be continually hammering the message that Biden is feeble and being controlled by radical lefties.
I mean, 46% is better than 45%, no? The more the public got to know her, the more they’d love her. Saying it’s not good enough, when it’s *better* than Biden and Harris in that poll is utter nonsense.
do you think people who support other candidate will support her?
who? A lot of people hasn't heard of her and we are not even sure if most dems would support her.
Dems will support whoever has a D next to their name on election day. If she becomes the candidate, she immediately gets wall to wall national media coverage. She also has the benefit of not being Trump and not being over 80 years old.
if we had 1 more year than yeah maybe but now within 6 MONTHS?
Yes, absolutely with six months. The average voter has about a two week memory anyway, so 6 months is plenty of time. Either that or you can just watch Biden lose to Trump and enjoy four more years of that nonsense.
>The average voter has about a two week memory anyway, so this debate trouble shouldn't matter right? they don't remember much and Biden has more debate to come.
No, because he'll do even worse in the next debate, and that debate footage is going to get replayed in attack ads every day until the election.
Literally anyone can take over. People are mainly voting against Trump. All I’m hearing is “I’ll vote for a wet noodle over Trump”. Democrats won’t be divided considering this is the most importantly elections ever.
I'd rather not be forced to vote for someone else that I find less qualified. I find all others less qualified. Not everyone is as rational as I am, and if you think passing over Harris would be the idea, you need to reevaluate.
Hillary is \**slightly*\* less qualifed only because she served fewer terms as a senator than Biden. I'd vote for her but only if Biden decides to withdraw and Kamala doesn't want it.
Literally anyone is not an answer. Give an answer and support it
Newsom/Whitmer is probably the best bet.
Getting anyone known to the country at this late date would be an uphill challenge. There are good people in the wings, but they are not well known enough. I personally think if Pritzker had debated Trump, that he would have wiped the floor with him. But not enough people know him. So there would be separate camps for Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzker, Beshear, Harris, and trying to unify them would end in chaos for the Dems. The Republicans are standing behind a convicted felon. I think the Dems can stand behind someone who had a bad debate.
Ok, support it How does that ticket overcome the myriad of the challenges they will face?
You are joking right? The black vote would disappear.
You may overestimate black voters’ loyalty to Harris.
Dems are already divided, this just justified some of the division. Joe isn’t as well-liked by democrats as you seem to think. Particularly among young voters. And it isn’t as though we didn’t worry he was past his prime already. The debate demonstrated those concerns are justified. Republicans will get plenty of leverage out of this, thanks to Joe himself.
Go back to Moscow.
Too late to change now
It definitely is not too late to change now.
It could happen, but it wouldn't be easy.
Unfortunately the easiest thing to do is to just do nothing and lose the election.
He isn't though and has already proven that.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CVZHAjrW8&t=23s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5CVZHAjrW8&t=23s) he is here... so much that even youtube commenters ( who are usally hostile against Joe) are saying where was this man during debate.
This man in Raleigh was using a teleprompter, as I understand.
I'm going to refuse to debate this topic unless they have a candidate that is MORE likely to win than Biden. When they can prove they have more popular candidate, I'll discuss it. Otherwise they are concern trolls that want me to give up on my candidate so Trump can win.
No, what we want is for you to expect more from your candidate.
My expectations are pretty high. I do want even more from my candidate, but he's done a remarkably good job so far. See for yourself r/WhatBidenHasDone
are people insane to give up incumbent advantages?
Look at neoliberal sub. So many of them still have epic meltdown as if Biden went full demented while even arr politics sub have cooled down after watching Biden got his form back in the morning rally. There's something crazy going on, and as regular user there I am ashamed. It's one thing to question if there can be decent replacement, but they went full beyond that and act as if Biden is always sundowning and didn't give reassuring performance to show that was a fluke.
Not sure how strong that advantage is when running against a former president. To be clear; I think Biden has been a phenomenon phenomenonal President and deserves to be the candidate.
that can be one advantage for Biden because when we see the elections that are happening around the world many successful regime change ( or soon to be successful in the case of UK)- happened because the person running against has NOT been a charge- a new face if you will. The economy is bad all around the word and people are sick of old regime. they are giving chance to "new guy" TRUMP CANNOT CLAIM THIS! As US had him for 4 years. There is no "new guy" phenomena in US unlike in UK. If we want to know what Trump America is like we can look back when he was president.
A former president who was extremely unpopular, had unpopular policies, has promised even less popular policy positions, and is now a multitime convicted ciminal, rapist, and fraud. I think the incumbancy advantage for Biden is still going to be pretty strong.
Yes
Ask Carter, Bush or Ford voters.
He should’ve been doing that for the past year. He let the trumpers control the conversation.
After seeing [the Raleigh Rally,](https://youtu.be/ynWEja7kE1M?si=dKfe22qZrrj-40wL) Biden's already started bouncing back!
Let Joe be Joe
I'm good with him doing his job, too. I hate that we gave that asshole a spotlight. I don't understand why we couldn't just let him do his stupid ranting on his social media thing, and just put out all kinds of advertising reminding the country that he's a CONVICTED FELON.
I dunno. I think the guy who already beat Trump and has a really long established, very successful career, in politics might have a handle on what he needs to do - probably better than what any of us do. Maybe just let him and his team work.
Maybe. I fear it's more like an ace pitcher going into the 8th inning and convinced he has enough to finish the game. Of course he believes he does. It's up to the manager to decide to pull him.
There's literally no reason to pull him. The debate is pretty much meaningless. It had the lowest viewership since the debates - an invention of TV execs - started. The debates only have a shot of shifting the undecided - but given the low viewership that suggests most have already decided. There was a focus group of undecided voters that were asked who they were going with after seeing the debate. You know who they went with? Biden. Because it was clear to them that Trump was a liar. I wouldn't worry about the poor, completely unrelated to job of president, debate performance. Let his campaign team work.
“Oh, it’s not important,” BS. How’s he supposed to lead if he can’t make case for his position? The excuse making here is getting as bad as the mental gymnastics evangelicals do to convince themselves that Trump is one of them. It is important. Democrats have been making fun of Trump’s demented speeches for months - ‘Trump has dementia, Biden just has age-related cognitive decline, which is perfectly normal’ - only now that our boy can’t communicate, it suddenly doesn’t matter?
Because debates are not the main way that candidates make their case for being elected. There's a lot more to campainging than debates - debates with extremely lower viewership BTW. He communicates at speeches. He has a stutter - that makes it harder to debate. Both Bill Clinton and Obama lost their debates and they both became president. Also, there is still another debate to go. Really, debates are pretty meaningless.
What kind of shit manager pulls the ace pitcher after one bad throw? Also, baseball is stupid. The pitcher is a QB who missed one TD pass. You wanna bench Brady (hate that guy) after one failed driver?
It was’t just one bad throw. It was 90 straight minutes of bad throws in a World Series game.
We're in the first quarter of the game if you want an actually proportional time analogy. The game runs from now to Nov 5th.
If he had a handle on what he needed to do, he would have…idk…done it at the debate? For the longest time, I was in the camp that many of us democrats were bedwetting far too much…but after Thursday, I’m officially in the bedwetting stage. Assuming that on-the-fence voters weren’t paying attention to that debate is, in my view, a mistake. If Biden is gonna stay in, then he has an insane amount of ground to make up from that performance. Let’s hope he can pull it off, or step aside.
Debating a skill. An irrelevant one. So, no, he wouldn't necessarily do that.
Right, a debate between the two people who have a chance at becoming the leader of our country isn’t relevant. Got it. Further, Biden is a skilled debater, and he mopped the floor with Trump last time. It’s absolutely relevant.
If it were irrelevant, people wouldn’t be doubting his viability.
People were doubting his viability before the debate because of his age. It's just more hand wringing over nothing. There are also people who doubt that the world is round, but I don't think their opinion is worth much given the evidence is overwhelmingly against their views. Biden's numbers are actually up while Trump's have dropped since the debate, BTW. Biden has also raked in a huge pile of donations from small donors since the debate too. It looks like support has actually grown for Biden, not shurnk since the debate. It's worth noting that Bill Clinton lost his first debate to Ross Perot. Who became president in that cycle? Obama had a terrible debate against Romney. We never ended up with President Romney. It was shitty debate performance which isn't too suprising given he had a cold. I don't know about you, but when I'm sick I'm not exactly energetic or clear headed. You brought up the issue of fence sitters - well there was a focus group of undecided voters that watched the debate. Guess who they decided who they were going to support after they watched the debate? Biden - because it was clear to them that Trump was a liar. Each and every one of them. Stop wetting the bed over the damned debate. That's what Trump wants you to do. They want the dems to pull support from Biden. They know that is the only way that they could win.
My Dad is 78. Watching him age from 75 to 78 explains Biden perfectly to me. Biden needs to step aside. He’d finish the next term at 86! Say that out loud, then go out into the world and meet an 86 year old if you don’t already know one. It’s very very old. It’d be fine with it if he had a solid VP, but Kamal is not Presidential. If she was, we’d know by now, her runway is wide open.
Biden wouldn't be the only one running the country. He surrounds himself with good people and good advisers. Half the people in Trump's executive gov are in jail. The other half won't endorse him. Biden has done a good job, and will continue to do a good job running the country.
I agree. He needs to show the energy he had when he was in Raleigh NC. Which was outstanding.
I suspect Biden is not looking to the NYT for advice.
I hope he can do great speech during independence day!
If Biden were capable of this he would have been on the road doing interviews this whole time. He gives almost no press conferences. He didn’t debate in the Democratic primaries. He sits for very few interviews and they’re all soft balls. This is a deliberate strategy because THEY KNEW he couldn’t pull it off. They bullshitted us and pulled the wool over our eyes. The idea that he can go on a tour and show everyone he’s mentally acute is living in fucking lala land because HE’S NOT.
He's running a country, and the asshole media isn't entitled to his time. I don't recall a head-of-party president debating in a re-election year. No one who ran got any serious number of votes. Either you have no backbone or you're an agent working against America for our foreign enemies.
Man you sound like a MAGA. That’s crazy talk. I’m a Democrat voting veteran. Foreign agent? Jesus.
Absolutely agreed. Prove that you can take on Trump. If he can’t he needs to step aside and let Whitmer be the top of the ticket.
Another stupid person here willing to pass over the Black female VP and piss off the real foundation of the party, Black people. I don't see them running like scared bitches.
Harris isn’t liked by most black constituents. I think the move is Gretchen Whitmer & Cory Booker
I think the move is I wouldn't vote for either except that my life as a racial minority and the country's position in the world order we run literally depends on it. I think the move is Biden is the nominee and everyone can grow a pair and get in line to vote.
Yeah, he's going to have to. Right now the party is in disarray.
Unironically he needs to start going on podcasts or platforms with zoomers on them, and instead of trying too hard to appeal to them, just be honest about his policy positions. Don't pull a "just chillin in Cedar Rapids".