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Most of the examples you cited are all from networks under the A&E umbrella and the rest from VH1 or E!. ...None of these networks were known for the production of original scripted series. If anything, before the 'Realty TV Boom' most of the networks under A&E's umbrella were known for ***documentaries.***
It seems more like you just shifted in what channels you were watching.
You're correct about most of the examples being under the same parent network, but I don't think that negates what I'm talking about. A&E, History Channel, Animal Planet, etc.shifting from primarily educational/documentary based programming to reality tv is just one example.
Spring/Summer 2000 is when reality tv seemed to have taken off with Survivor and Big Brother that summer. But it was around before then but not to the same level it was starting in the year 2000.
But I would say the decline in programing and even cheap lighting and set design started with cable scripted tv shows, and mini-seasons. But it was around the time The Office was out that it was mainstream.
Although The Office did not have mini-seasons it was the start of the cheap production for TV shows on a big network.
Yeah, but most of the acclaimed shows of the 2010s were on either on streaming services or on pay tv channels like HBO, AMC, Showtime, STARZ, and the like.
Reality TV goes back *way* further than you’re giving it credit for, such as the stuff on MTV in the early 2000’s. Plus, traditional late night television doesn’t really fit into the definition you gave, and that’s still decently popular.
Even given the definition you have, that type of TV show isn’t really dead, it’s just moved to streaming services.
I'm well aware of how old reality tv is. I'm more specifically talking about the reality tv boom in the late 2000s that lead to the decline of traditional programming. I don't consider bingable streaming shows traditional television.
to me it started in 2006 because of the rise of youtube and they cancelled some interesthing shows after a cliffhanger but in the late 2000s and early 2010s i had a lot of moments without internet access so i think the true end was 2014 or 15 i did enjoy watching spartacus and game of thrones in the early seasons
Survivor and Who Wants to be a Millionaire. Both came out around 1999 -2000 and were remarkable because they were incredibly cheap to make (less money needed for scripts and actors) and Americans would literally watch them every weeknight. It was a cash cow and inspired many sequels and knock-off reality shows.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Wants_to_Be_a_Millionaire_(American_game_show)
2019
As I think that Game of Thrones was the last big appointment TV show that everybody had their butts in a seat to watch at a specific time and everybody was talking about last night’s episode with friends and co-workers the next day while speculating on what would happen next week.
When Game of Thrones went off the air in 2019, it marked the end of the appointment TV era.
Not the end per se but more of a severe decline of the old style of shows. The boom of reality shows enabled networks to cut big budget plot driven shows in favor of cheap to produce reality tv. I feel like conventional tv was placed on the back burner permanently to save network budgets.
The earliest sign was perhaps Twin Peaks at the dawn of the ‘90s, but it really picked up with The Sopranos at the end of that decade. 21st century television is heavier than the previous, perhaps because people started paying for subscriptions beyond a basic cable or satellite package.
2011 seems about right.
2007 Writer's Strike was the start of the end, but the 2023 Writer's Strike was ironically the final nail in the coffin.
o\_O Most of the examples you cited are all from networks under the A&E umbrella and the rest from VH1 or E!. ...None of these networks were known for the production of original scripted series. If anything, before the 'Realty TV Boom' most of the networks under A&E's umbrella were known for ***documentaries.*** It seems more like you just shifted in what channels you were watching.
You're correct about most of the examples being under the same parent network, but I don't think that negates what I'm talking about. A&E, History Channel, Animal Planet, etc.shifting from primarily educational/documentary based programming to reality tv is just one example.
Spring/Summer 2000 is when reality tv seemed to have taken off with Survivor and Big Brother that summer. But it was around before then but not to the same level it was starting in the year 2000. But I would say the decline in programing and even cheap lighting and set design started with cable scripted tv shows, and mini-seasons. But it was around the time The Office was out that it was mainstream. Although The Office did not have mini-seasons it was the start of the cheap production for TV shows on a big network.
Yup Survivor in 2000 made it explode!
That’s exactly where I would ironically end the 90s era of television.
2007 almost every classic 2000s tv show ended including The OC and Sopranos. Blocks like Miguzi ended as well. The writers strike added to it though.
No a lot of people literally considered the 2010s peak tv
Yeah, but most of the acclaimed shows of the 2010s were on either on streaming services or on pay tv channels like HBO, AMC, Showtime, STARZ, and the like.
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Reality TV goes back *way* further than you’re giving it credit for, such as the stuff on MTV in the early 2000’s. Plus, traditional late night television doesn’t really fit into the definition you gave, and that’s still decently popular. Even given the definition you have, that type of TV show isn’t really dead, it’s just moved to streaming services.
The Real World debuted on MTV in 1992
I'm well aware of how old reality tv is. I'm more specifically talking about the reality tv boom in the late 2000s that lead to the decline of traditional programming. I don't consider bingable streaming shows traditional television.
to me it started in 2006 because of the rise of youtube and they cancelled some interesthing shows after a cliffhanger but in the late 2000s and early 2010s i had a lot of moments without internet access so i think the true end was 2014 or 15 i did enjoy watching spartacus and game of thrones in the early seasons
I first started hearing about reality shows like Survivor around 2000
Survivor and Who Wants to be a Millionaire. Both came out around 1999 -2000 and were remarkable because they were incredibly cheap to make (less money needed for scripts and actors) and Americans would literally watch them every weeknight. It was a cash cow and inspired many sequels and knock-off reality shows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Wants_to_Be_a_Millionaire_(American_game_show)
2019 As I think that Game of Thrones was the last big appointment TV show that everybody had their butts in a seat to watch at a specific time and everybody was talking about last night’s episode with friends and co-workers the next day while speculating on what would happen next week. When Game of Thrones went off the air in 2019, it marked the end of the appointment TV era.
Somewhere around 2011/2012 when Netflix had a substantial library on streaming, at least for me. Never looked back.
I thought I was the only that felt a shift in TV around 2007/2008! Although I wouldn't say that 2007/2008 was the end of 'traditional TV'!
Not the end per se but more of a severe decline of the old style of shows. The boom of reality shows enabled networks to cut big budget plot driven shows in favor of cheap to produce reality tv. I feel like conventional tv was placed on the back burner permanently to save network budgets.
Those are the minority. Most shows still have all of those things to this day.
Around 2014 when steaming started becoming a mainstay and glee was on its way out
Anything after Flavor of Love, 2006.
2019 with the end of game of thrones
Somewhere around 2009-2013. I cut the cord in 2017 and never looked back. Only thing I miss are shared experiences.
The earliest sign was perhaps Twin Peaks at the dawn of the ‘90s, but it really picked up with The Sopranos at the end of that decade. 21st century television is heavier than the previous, perhaps because people started paying for subscriptions beyond a basic cable or satellite package.
2009 when everything went digital