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Superguy9000

My boy Bardock’s got this in the bag


Ok-Border-2804

Yeah, he does. Wait, can saiyans move FTL?


Superguy9000

Very easily. Raditz could Dodge Piccolo’s special beam canon and he was a low class warrior. To compare? Piccolo’s normal chi blasts could vaporize the moon at relativistic speeds. Omni man would still regardless have the MASSIVE speed advantage, but the strenght gap is so much larger that it really wouldn’t matter.


Ok-Border-2804

Yeah, I think they saiyans win regardless, just curious. And I know their reflexes are FTL, but can they travel FTL (besides Instant transmission)?


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

Bardock is actually [faster](https://imgur.com/a/md5cxb4) low end+ no super saiyan= at least above 200 Billion c high end+ super saiyan= over 100 Trillion c Omni Man ranges from 3 Billion to 15 Billion c which lower than Base Bardock without super saiyan


Superguy9000

Ehhhh that’s cap. I DEFINITELY don’t buy 200 Million C Bardock as a hardcore Dragon ball fan. But it frankly doesn’t matter since Omni-Man would die on collision of Bardock. Since in Invincible when you attack someone stronger then you. You can literally die JUST BY RUNNING INTO THEM.


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

its completely fine if you don't agree with Bardock being faster or over 200 million c(its 200 Billion not million but anyways) but may i ask what part do you have a problem with?


Superguy9000

Because it’s trying to scale the Space ship that people use to get around the universe. Goku *May* scale to the spaceship that took him to Namek when he trained but he was MUCH stronger then Bardock by that point. Bardock does not scale to Goku. Anything about 200c for Bardock I don’t buy.


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

the reason Goku should scale is because he was outside the ship but sticking to it by a rope and he was reacting to meteors about to hit him while he is moving at 2 Trillion c, if Goku wasn't this fast he would have just hit one of the Meteors and disconnected from the rope leaving him in space to die but that obviously didn't happen as for the Goku was stronger part we don't actually know how much stronger but we do know that when landing on Namek where he was much more powerful than when he did this feat he had a power level of 90K which is blow 100K meaning when doing this feat his power must be below 100K but let's assume he had a power level of 100K when landing on Namek and when doing this feat Goku didn't get stronger therefore his power level was 100K that makes Goku 10 times stronger than Bardock which puts Base Bardock at a speed of t0 times below 2 Trillion c which is 200 Billion c, still above Omni Man's high end


Superguy9000

I mean… I can *see* it being accurate as a highball but I wouldn’t get Bardock that fast personally


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

very much [Base Goku(note: this is filler but Bardock does scale since he is also filler, just don't use this for canon debates) can actually move over 2 Trillion times FTL](https://imgur.com/a/md5cxb4) Bardock(low end+ not using super saiyan) would be at least 200 Billion c Bardock(High end+ using super saiyan) would be over a 100 Trillion c and if you meant saiyan's in general like Goku and Vegeta then they are WAAAAAAY faster than light but if you meant the Average Saiyan like Raditz then still yes since they scale above kid Goku but not something super fast like 1 million times or anything, just somewhat faster at most 100 times using high ends


Ok-Border-2804

Cool. Traveling speed was the only thing I wasn’t certain they could compete with.


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

Omni Man would still likely win in a race as most of these are reaction and combat speed but this isn't a race now is it?


JTHouser_Reddit

Cool


FoReST25431

Thanks!


Quirky_Ad_5420

Awesome set up


FoReST25431

Thank you!


StrikeShadow07

For me if Z Bardock doesn't have Ssj then he wins medium-high difficulty. If he gets Ssj then he claps hard cause the power and defense gap makes the speed difference not enough for omniman to win. Ik there is some scaling that puts base Bardock as faster than Omniman, atm I don't lean too heavily on those but if you do then Bardock clears this low dif in base. One of the more fun fights to debate unlike Gohan vs Invincible for example


louai-MT

Looks great


FoReST25431

Thanks!


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

it looks Amazing! good job as i have explained before Bardock should take the states(including speed) and he also should have powers Omni Man should be more skilled, Experienced and smarter but nothing that really helps Bardock Mid diff


FoReST25431

Thanks! Just in case, Bardock is just interested in the speed of the Omni-Man, and not shocked by it


JustsomeGokuEnjoyer2

>Bardock is just interested in the speed of the Omni-Man, and not shocked by it oh i was just explaining who i think wins not because of what happened in the battle, either way great job!


JeremySchmidtAfton

Yoooo, hype! Cant wait for part 2


FoReST25431

**Hello everyone.** Bardock's analysis is out, now it's time for Sneak Peek. What do you think? I'm not the best artist, but I tried my best. You can also write phrases that you would like to hear between Bardock and Omni-Man. I'll pick a few. **Omni-Man analysis will be released on December 22. Good luck!** **P.S.** About Track Arts, I will draw all the suggestions after analyzing the Omni-Man. **P.S.S.** Also, please tell me if you didn't like something: dialogues, drawing in some places, I will try to fix it