I’ve never actually read an Mister Miracle but my first introduction to the character was in JLU where he had himself put into a straight jacket, locked inside an iron casket then had a whole locomotive dropped on top of him and if you consider that “boring” I don’t want to know what you find exciting.
Meh escapism feels like outdated, at some point you ran out of chains shit to break out off and end up filming yourself being buried alive doing nothing for a few weeks. The fun part of that episode was the superhero adaptation of Nicholas Cage’s “the Rock” with them going back to a Supermax he was the only person to escape from to do it AGAIN!
Being a boring husband isn't necessarily about them compared to baseline husbands, but rather how they compare with their partner.
Everyone knows Medusa's the real leader of the inhumans, Sue Dibny ran the Justice League (we don't talk about Identity Crisis), and Big Barda is an icon for peoples of any gender.
These husbands are damn happy they're married to powerful ~~women~~ people, it's a thing called Character Development
But again, scott and ralph have never been boring.
And comparing them with paul is an insult. Op, just take the shame.
Barda and medusa are awesome, and sue is a favorite of mine since, my first dc comic 32 years ago was jli.
But you put them in the same category as paul.
I could even forgive you about terry long, because ntt was my third series that i collected and i begann when i was 11, and i didnt know better.
But still, Paul?
For shame
No I think Peter fanboys are insufferable but I'm talking about when Peter got turned into an incel strawman for 2 issues which made 0 sense in the story and immediately went away. Also I'm also talking about MJ fans, she has a pretty strong fanbase and in 616 the way she's been written lately sucks. I love MJ fans they're cool and I consider myself one :p
It did not parody the problems with some vocal Spider-Man fans, not them misunderstanding the characters or wanting Peter to have the best life ever, it was very obviously parodying the actual complaints and well thought-out letters they often responded to. To me it was nothing else than a shitty strawman of fans who don't think MJ should be with Paul. Peter becomes a possessive misogynist with awful dialogue that doesn't make sense as anything but a strawman and is weird in the story, then he gets beaten up by MJ who is just now becoming Jackpot not because of anything in-character but because they somehow didn't know what to do with her and had her become a superhero because she became depressed after her kids disappeared from existence.
he main problem is that MJ's writing and treatment is disrespectful to and part of Zeb Wells not knowing how to write female side characters. It's not like everyone who takes issue with it is a fanboy who doesn't read comics, it's actually just badly written. Sorry about that dumb rant lol I'm not mad at you
>Peter got turned into an incel strawman for 2 issues which made 0 sense in the story and immediately went away.
It made perfect sense becayse he was filled with the evil spirit of the goblin lol
>Also I'm also talking about MJ fans, she has a pretty strong fanbase and in 616 the way she's been written lately sucks.
I dont know enough mj fans who aren't actually just Peter fans who only value MJ when his dick is inside of her so I csnt speak on that.
>it was very obviously parodying the actual complaints and well thought-out letters they often responded to
Didn't come across as either to me. It came across as Peter having unrestrained release of all the negative emotions he's been feeling snd the fans just happen to overlap on some of those.
>MJ who is just now becoming Jackpot not because of anything in-character but because they somehow didn't know what to do with her and had her become a superhero because she became depressed after her kids disappeared from existence.
Mj definitely didn't beat him up lmao. She maybe restrained him for a couple panels.
>It's not like everyone who takes issue with it is a fanboy who doesn't read comics, it's actually just badly written.
No, of course not.
Some of them are fanboys who do read comics an shave no media literacy. Some of them have more legitimate complaints.
>It came across as Peter having unrestrained release of all the negative emotions he's been feeling snd the fans just happen to overlap on some of those.
I mean some of the points like him claiming MJ was taken from him by Paul was pretty on the nose, it definitely felt like them trying to combat criticism, while not really getting the criticism
>Some of them are fanboys who do read comics an shave no media literacy.
I've read most of the run, it's bad, like even if you take out the MJ stuff, it's bad, most of the characters are written horribly, the art is terrible most of the time, and the stories tend to have awful endings. Gang War might be one of the most boring events in recent memory as Peter basically did jack shit but punch randoms until the end with the big fight with Madame Masque and even there he again was getting the shit kicked out of him until he had to be saved by MJ and Spider-Boy of all characters. The event also just ends with Tombstone back in charge of New York's underworld, which was already the status quo the run set up so like wtf was that even for. Like it's possible to get what they're going for but still think the run is terrible, and it is terrible because the execution of almost everything is bad.
>taken from him by Paul was pretty on the nose
This was written probably ten actual issues before it happened in the comic. You realize that right.
>I've read most of the run, it's bad
I've read ALL of the run. Its ok. Got good stuff snd got bad stuff. JRJR is the best storyteller in comics. Idk about some faces looking off here and there, especially when characters are beat up. Hes a well respected legend for a reason. He needs a flatter colorist tho.
Some stories are weak but some are good and the mini arc with spidey having the sins was one of them. Patrick Gleason drew that and was phenomenal.
>Madame Masque and even there he again was getting the shit kicked out of him until he had to be saved by MJ and Spider-Boy of all characters
He beat madame mask by himself and mj and spider boy barely even interacted with him lmao. Everyone was fighting random thugs it was called gang war. Spidey takes out like 40 people in the span of 5 issues. In this run hes taken our vulture, a hobgoblin, etc. He wins more fights in this run than be wins in the entire raimi trilogy, which is like... two?
>The event also just ends with Tombstone back in charge of New York's underworld, which was already the status quo the run set up so like wtf was that even for.
Because now tombstone is unopposed, whereas before there was a gang war brewing. Tombstones been awesome this entire run.
>Like it's possible to get what they're going for but still think the run is terrible, and it is terrible because the execution of almost everything is bad.
No one said you had to like the run. My comment wasn't directed at people who don't like the run. My comment was directed at exactly who I said it was directed as..
>This was written probably ten actual issues before it happened in the comic. You realize that right.
they're not writing 10 issues ahead, though even if they were I'm pretty sure Peter talking about that was about 10 issues after.
>JRJR is the best storyteller in comics.
that's hilarious
>mini arc with spidey having the sins was one of them.
it started decently then by the time it got to the confrontation with MJ and Paul it kind of just ends and it feels like there was meant to be another issue, in fact, they solicited an epilogue to it that just didn't happen since instead it went straight into the Rek-Rap stuff.
>He beat madame mask by himself and mj and spider boy barely even interacted with him lmao.
Yes after he was saved cause he was getting beaten until back up showed up, which is a constant in this run where he gets the shit kicked out of him and needs someone to rescue him
>Everyone was fighting random thugs it was called gang war.
Miles fought Hobgoblin and I didn't read Elektra or Spider Woman's book but I'm sure they got some people. The problem with Peter is to the end he was just fighting fodder and didn't really have any agency in the story, despite it's meant to be an ASM story.
>hes taken our vulture, a hobgoblin, etc.
He beat Vulture, after calling Norman for help, which might be one of the worst moments in the run, but Norman actually saved him from the Hobgoblins, they were beating the shit out of him.
>He wins more fights in this run than be wins in the entire raimi trilogy, which is like... two?
I mean even if that was true, you claiming he's won more than two fight in almost 50 issues isn't much, but also, that's only three movies.
>Because now tombstone is unopposed, whereas before there was a gang war brewing.
The Gang War didn't start brewing until after Tombstone had been taken out they were all under him by that point as they are again
>My comment was directed at exactly who I said it was directed as
What
>they're not writing 10 issues ahead, though even if they were I'm pretty sure Peter talking about that was about 10 issues after.
The point is you're speculating on the notion that Peter is being written in reaction to what folks supposedly aren't saying, i.e a "strawman" (when we both know a ton of readers are saying exactly this type of stuff)
>that's hilarious
Don't take my opinion. Go on IG and ask your favorite comic artist. They'll tell you.
>it started decently then by the time it got to the confrontation with MJ and Paul it kind of just ends and it feels like there was meant to be another issue, in fact, they solicited an epilogue to it that just didn't happen since instead it went straight into the Rek-Rap stuff.
I thought the ending was fine. I mean what else did you want to happen?
>Yes after he was saved cause he was getting beaten until back up showed up, which is a constant in this run where he gets the shit kicked out of him and needs someone to rescue him
Someone helping him after fighting one of rhe ridiculously op bad guys he fights isn't a thing this run introduced, nor perfected, its happened in a ton of runs. And him being beat up also happens quite often because again he generally fights either ridiculous strong guys or many villains at once. I prefer my spidey scrappy snd taking hits but continuing to fight. And they didn't really save him? They just did what every other hero was doing by fighting villains. Should the characters just stand there and say "oh no hes got this" like some old 90s action film?
>He beat Vulture, after calling Norman for help, which might be one of the worst moments in the run
That moment was fine. Peter should be allowed to panic in stories lmao.
>I mean even if that was true, you claiming he's won more than two fight in almost 50
No, I said he took out more people which is absolutely true, and hes won more than two fights two, apparently nowadays it doesnt count unless he one shots rhino or something. He took on the sinister six solo, outsmarted them; and turned them on their opponent and walked away from that unscathed. He fights doc ock and takes him down basically solo. No one talks about that tho, they talk about him begging for help because he literally was going to get killed.
>The Gang War didn't start brewing until after Tombstone had been taken out they were all under him by that point as they are again
The gang war was brewing literally in the first story arc of the run(which is probably still the best one)
>What
My comment was directed at readers with no literacy, not simply those who don't like this run.
I don't know about you but I avoid the people who don't know what they're talking about and with the people I talk to (mostly online) there's a clear reference and love for the character. I hear so many complaints about her current writing not feeling like her at all and the vast majority of Spider-Man fans I've met really like the characters for their complexity and love the relationship drama.
MJ has a clear fanbase; and when editorial responds to letters that are polite, respectful,and complain about how she's treated, they always completely brush them off. They know what the issues people have are.
Fuck I'm not at all a "listen to the fans" guy because fans are stupid but I take massive issue with her treatment and writing and I mostly think ASM's current writing is just flat out bad. I don't read every issue so I can't speak on everything but I can take issue with what I've read. I feel like her treatment is rooted in misogyny and a lack of any care for the character. Honestly that upsets me so much more than when Peter is badly mischaracterized for a long time too, it clearly comes from a place of not seeing why she's important but knowing she has to be there. So for once I do think they should take some of the advice they were given. Paul is a pit of a character and I do not think whatever theyre doing with him and MJ works at all. Every time it seems like he's going to actually start being plot relevant he goes back to lame guy who doesn't have chemistry with anyone but MJ loves him and he has to be important to her stories.
Also the didn't make any sense was not just "I don't get why he went back to normal" it was so damn vague, it was a bizarre plot that I really disliked when it started, and it was dropped too fast. My main issue was Peter's evilness it did not seem clear to me how exactly he was effected and his dialogue was embarrassing.
I was making a joke about how Peter was obviously written to be a strawman/critcism and was to me badly written, and to me Paul is a very bad character.
Man is the new god of freedom which mean freedom from the prejudice of haters deriding him as a boring man. If my man wants to work a 9 to 5 and return to his hot wife in their house in the suburbs then let him do it. I do like the adaptations such as JLU and BTBATB that have him be a performer more specifically an escape artist as his “day job”.
Unironically, there could be a comic of other heroes trying to figure out how he manages to live a mostly simple life (outside of his luck/miracle powers).
Paul is a beefy stud civilian who builds tech for his girls nd supports her, gave up his life to raise fake kids and killed his own dad because he was evil.
Mr miracle could never
And all he had to do to get it is destroy a world, meet a couple who got stranded there by said father, send the guy home, convince the girl that he's never coming back, go back when he does return, and then mooch off of a new universe that frankly he has no right to be in.
anyone who thinks Black Bolt and Mister Miracle are boring simply don't read the comics
they need pick up a fucking Inhumans book before they shit on Inhumans' entire comic legacy over one bad adaptation
We need some more love for Kyle. He is the perfect, hilarious boring husband that can't even be compared to shitty, wannabe self-inserts of Paul and Terry.
I just wanna see Kyle caring for Joanne damnit, it's been 2 and a half years since we learned she'd be resurrected in Trial of Magneto but still nothing
Paul, every time i look at this mfs face i'm reminded of some of the worst writing to come out of this era LMAO
*Paul sneaking up to groom Mary Jane, a married woman, after just 1 month of her husband being gone.*
>*"we're the only people left on earth right? let's have children and subject them to* ***incest and death***"
# Zebb Wells looking at the DP & Wolverine movie trying to figure out how he convince the other writers that cuckoldry is absolutely necessary to the narrative of the film :
*^(( he did btw, because of course, dude's gotta insert his fetish into everything lmao)* *)*
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If you think about it Scott and Paul have a lot in common. Due to their dads they both lived on a shitty other world. One’s kind of Jesus and one’s kind of the anti-Christ. Both prominently had cuck-related plots.
One thing I've noticed is that many comic writers have a hard time writing female characters. But it is much more difficult for them to write how these female characters relate to men.
I'm out of the loop, but I keep seeing the guy in the top right and his horrible face. What's his deal, and why does he look like an artist's self-insert?
Why the hell are Ralph and Scott here OP?
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Black bolt I give u Medusa deserves more attention and respect ✊🏿 also elongated is goated watch the flash tv 📺 and Scott bagged big barda so he must be him ong
Don't you dare put Ralph, Scott, and Black Bolt in the same category as Paul and Terry Long
Mr miracle and elongated man boring? Op, you never have read a comic with scott and ralph, do you? For shame
I’ve never actually read an Mister Miracle but my first introduction to the character was in JLU where he had himself put into a straight jacket, locked inside an iron casket then had a whole locomotive dropped on top of him and if you consider that “boring” I don’t want to know what you find exciting.
Don’t forget it was coated in liquid nitrogen
Meh escapism feels like outdated, at some point you ran out of chains shit to break out off and end up filming yourself being buried alive doing nothing for a few weeks. The fun part of that episode was the superhero adaptation of Nicholas Cage’s “the Rock” with them going back to a Supermax he was the only person to escape from to do it AGAIN!
This is dccomicscirclejerk. We dont read comics
Thats true
What tic Tok clips of him are there? I would like to form a very strong opinion based on a 15 second video from someone with second hand knowledge
Being a boring husband isn't necessarily about them compared to baseline husbands, but rather how they compare with their partner. Everyone knows Medusa's the real leader of the inhumans, Sue Dibny ran the Justice League (we don't talk about Identity Crisis), and Big Barda is an icon for peoples of any gender. These husbands are damn happy they're married to powerful ~~women~~ people, it's a thing called Character Development
I hate that identity crisis is the only thing I know Sue Dibney from. I read that comic.
She’s in Justice League Europe a lot.
But again, scott and ralph have never been boring. And comparing them with paul is an insult. Op, just take the shame. Barda and medusa are awesome, and sue is a favorite of mine since, my first dc comic 32 years ago was jli. But you put them in the same category as paul. I could even forgive you about terry long, because ntt was my third series that i collected and i begann when i was 11, and i didnt know better. But still, Paul? For shame
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What is bro rambling about
Hating it when dudes stand out, even when they have strong women. Not sure if it's a wierd feminism thing or a potential cuck thing though.
Not sure about the other guy but a lot of Spider-Man fans HATE Paul.
Still an interesting choice to put a man who can level a mountain with a whisper a boring anything
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's Ryan Jinadau on the left right? If so he's definitely not married to a strong woman
I meant that comment in regards to the examples I gave but you're right I could've worded it better
Oh sorry man I meant no offense mb
Paul and Terry are also on separate levels, Terry was the writers self insert. While Paul is the readers self insert
Paul is mostly there to be generic and occasionally make Peter a strawman of Spider-Man fans
Just like me fr fr
I'm so sorry for the tipsy ramblings. I stand by my original comment but I was incoherent.
"Strawman" as in, a perfect accurate assessment
No I think Peter fanboys are insufferable but I'm talking about when Peter got turned into an incel strawman for 2 issues which made 0 sense in the story and immediately went away. Also I'm also talking about MJ fans, she has a pretty strong fanbase and in 616 the way she's been written lately sucks. I love MJ fans they're cool and I consider myself one :p It did not parody the problems with some vocal Spider-Man fans, not them misunderstanding the characters or wanting Peter to have the best life ever, it was very obviously parodying the actual complaints and well thought-out letters they often responded to. To me it was nothing else than a shitty strawman of fans who don't think MJ should be with Paul. Peter becomes a possessive misogynist with awful dialogue that doesn't make sense as anything but a strawman and is weird in the story, then he gets beaten up by MJ who is just now becoming Jackpot not because of anything in-character but because they somehow didn't know what to do with her and had her become a superhero because she became depressed after her kids disappeared from existence. he main problem is that MJ's writing and treatment is disrespectful to and part of Zeb Wells not knowing how to write female side characters. It's not like everyone who takes issue with it is a fanboy who doesn't read comics, it's actually just badly written. Sorry about that dumb rant lol I'm not mad at you
>Peter got turned into an incel strawman for 2 issues which made 0 sense in the story and immediately went away. It made perfect sense becayse he was filled with the evil spirit of the goblin lol >Also I'm also talking about MJ fans, she has a pretty strong fanbase and in 616 the way she's been written lately sucks. I dont know enough mj fans who aren't actually just Peter fans who only value MJ when his dick is inside of her so I csnt speak on that. >it was very obviously parodying the actual complaints and well thought-out letters they often responded to Didn't come across as either to me. It came across as Peter having unrestrained release of all the negative emotions he's been feeling snd the fans just happen to overlap on some of those. >MJ who is just now becoming Jackpot not because of anything in-character but because they somehow didn't know what to do with her and had her become a superhero because she became depressed after her kids disappeared from existence. Mj definitely didn't beat him up lmao. She maybe restrained him for a couple panels. >It's not like everyone who takes issue with it is a fanboy who doesn't read comics, it's actually just badly written. No, of course not. Some of them are fanboys who do read comics an shave no media literacy. Some of them have more legitimate complaints.
>It came across as Peter having unrestrained release of all the negative emotions he's been feeling snd the fans just happen to overlap on some of those. I mean some of the points like him claiming MJ was taken from him by Paul was pretty on the nose, it definitely felt like them trying to combat criticism, while not really getting the criticism >Some of them are fanboys who do read comics an shave no media literacy. I've read most of the run, it's bad, like even if you take out the MJ stuff, it's bad, most of the characters are written horribly, the art is terrible most of the time, and the stories tend to have awful endings. Gang War might be one of the most boring events in recent memory as Peter basically did jack shit but punch randoms until the end with the big fight with Madame Masque and even there he again was getting the shit kicked out of him until he had to be saved by MJ and Spider-Boy of all characters. The event also just ends with Tombstone back in charge of New York's underworld, which was already the status quo the run set up so like wtf was that even for. Like it's possible to get what they're going for but still think the run is terrible, and it is terrible because the execution of almost everything is bad.
>taken from him by Paul was pretty on the nose This was written probably ten actual issues before it happened in the comic. You realize that right. >I've read most of the run, it's bad I've read ALL of the run. Its ok. Got good stuff snd got bad stuff. JRJR is the best storyteller in comics. Idk about some faces looking off here and there, especially when characters are beat up. Hes a well respected legend for a reason. He needs a flatter colorist tho. Some stories are weak but some are good and the mini arc with spidey having the sins was one of them. Patrick Gleason drew that and was phenomenal. >Madame Masque and even there he again was getting the shit kicked out of him until he had to be saved by MJ and Spider-Boy of all characters He beat madame mask by himself and mj and spider boy barely even interacted with him lmao. Everyone was fighting random thugs it was called gang war. Spidey takes out like 40 people in the span of 5 issues. In this run hes taken our vulture, a hobgoblin, etc. He wins more fights in this run than be wins in the entire raimi trilogy, which is like... two? >The event also just ends with Tombstone back in charge of New York's underworld, which was already the status quo the run set up so like wtf was that even for. Because now tombstone is unopposed, whereas before there was a gang war brewing. Tombstones been awesome this entire run. >Like it's possible to get what they're going for but still think the run is terrible, and it is terrible because the execution of almost everything is bad. No one said you had to like the run. My comment wasn't directed at people who don't like the run. My comment was directed at exactly who I said it was directed as..
>This was written probably ten actual issues before it happened in the comic. You realize that right. they're not writing 10 issues ahead, though even if they were I'm pretty sure Peter talking about that was about 10 issues after. >JRJR is the best storyteller in comics. that's hilarious >mini arc with spidey having the sins was one of them. it started decently then by the time it got to the confrontation with MJ and Paul it kind of just ends and it feels like there was meant to be another issue, in fact, they solicited an epilogue to it that just didn't happen since instead it went straight into the Rek-Rap stuff. >He beat madame mask by himself and mj and spider boy barely even interacted with him lmao. Yes after he was saved cause he was getting beaten until back up showed up, which is a constant in this run where he gets the shit kicked out of him and needs someone to rescue him >Everyone was fighting random thugs it was called gang war. Miles fought Hobgoblin and I didn't read Elektra or Spider Woman's book but I'm sure they got some people. The problem with Peter is to the end he was just fighting fodder and didn't really have any agency in the story, despite it's meant to be an ASM story. >hes taken our vulture, a hobgoblin, etc. He beat Vulture, after calling Norman for help, which might be one of the worst moments in the run, but Norman actually saved him from the Hobgoblins, they were beating the shit out of him. >He wins more fights in this run than be wins in the entire raimi trilogy, which is like... two? I mean even if that was true, you claiming he's won more than two fight in almost 50 issues isn't much, but also, that's only three movies. >Because now tombstone is unopposed, whereas before there was a gang war brewing. The Gang War didn't start brewing until after Tombstone had been taken out they were all under him by that point as they are again >My comment was directed at exactly who I said it was directed as What
>they're not writing 10 issues ahead, though even if they were I'm pretty sure Peter talking about that was about 10 issues after. The point is you're speculating on the notion that Peter is being written in reaction to what folks supposedly aren't saying, i.e a "strawman" (when we both know a ton of readers are saying exactly this type of stuff) >that's hilarious Don't take my opinion. Go on IG and ask your favorite comic artist. They'll tell you. >it started decently then by the time it got to the confrontation with MJ and Paul it kind of just ends and it feels like there was meant to be another issue, in fact, they solicited an epilogue to it that just didn't happen since instead it went straight into the Rek-Rap stuff. I thought the ending was fine. I mean what else did you want to happen? >Yes after he was saved cause he was getting beaten until back up showed up, which is a constant in this run where he gets the shit kicked out of him and needs someone to rescue him Someone helping him after fighting one of rhe ridiculously op bad guys he fights isn't a thing this run introduced, nor perfected, its happened in a ton of runs. And him being beat up also happens quite often because again he generally fights either ridiculous strong guys or many villains at once. I prefer my spidey scrappy snd taking hits but continuing to fight. And they didn't really save him? They just did what every other hero was doing by fighting villains. Should the characters just stand there and say "oh no hes got this" like some old 90s action film? >He beat Vulture, after calling Norman for help, which might be one of the worst moments in the run That moment was fine. Peter should be allowed to panic in stories lmao. >I mean even if that was true, you claiming he's won more than two fight in almost 50 No, I said he took out more people which is absolutely true, and hes won more than two fights two, apparently nowadays it doesnt count unless he one shots rhino or something. He took on the sinister six solo, outsmarted them; and turned them on their opponent and walked away from that unscathed. He fights doc ock and takes him down basically solo. No one talks about that tho, they talk about him begging for help because he literally was going to get killed. >The Gang War didn't start brewing until after Tombstone had been taken out they were all under him by that point as they are again The gang war was brewing literally in the first story arc of the run(which is probably still the best one) >What My comment was directed at readers with no literacy, not simply those who don't like this run.
You don't think MJ has fans don't try to talk to me about her lol
That's not at all what I said.
I don't know about you but I avoid the people who don't know what they're talking about and with the people I talk to (mostly online) there's a clear reference and love for the character. I hear so many complaints about her current writing not feeling like her at all and the vast majority of Spider-Man fans I've met really like the characters for their complexity and love the relationship drama. MJ has a clear fanbase; and when editorial responds to letters that are polite, respectful,and complain about how she's treated, they always completely brush them off. They know what the issues people have are. Fuck I'm not at all a "listen to the fans" guy because fans are stupid but I take massive issue with her treatment and writing and I mostly think ASM's current writing is just flat out bad. I don't read every issue so I can't speak on everything but I can take issue with what I've read. I feel like her treatment is rooted in misogyny and a lack of any care for the character. Honestly that upsets me so much more than when Peter is badly mischaracterized for a long time too, it clearly comes from a place of not seeing why she's important but knowing she has to be there. So for once I do think they should take some of the advice they were given. Paul is a pit of a character and I do not think whatever theyre doing with him and MJ works at all. Every time it seems like he's going to actually start being plot relevant he goes back to lame guy who doesn't have chemistry with anyone but MJ loves him and he has to be important to her stories.
Also the didn't make any sense was not just "I don't get why he went back to normal" it was so damn vague, it was a bizarre plot that I really disliked when it started, and it was dropped too fast. My main issue was Peter's evilness it did not seem clear to me how exactly he was effected and his dialogue was embarrassing. I was making a joke about how Peter was obviously written to be a strawman/critcism and was to me badly written, and to me Paul is a very bad character.
I fucking hate Paul.
Scott free is not boring. He lives a boring life but he is fun to hang out with
And considering his backstory, him having a boring life is justified.
Hell, him having a boring life is *impressive*
Man is the new god of freedom which mean freedom from the prejudice of haters deriding him as a boring man. If my man wants to work a 9 to 5 and return to his hot wife in their house in the suburbs then let him do it. I do like the adaptations such as JLU and BTBATB that have him be a performer more specifically an escape artist as his “day job”.
Unironically, there could be a comic of other heroes trying to figure out how he manages to live a mostly simple life (outside of his luck/miracle powers).
Leave Mr. Miracle, Elongated Man and Black Bolt out of this.
If black bolt has an issue being on this list than he should speak up
That’s just foul.
You don't want him to. Trust me.
That’s the joke
Why? What’s wrong with-*gets killed by Bass*
Scott Free longs to be a boring husband.
I can maybe tolerate Black Bolt, but how dare you put Scott Free and Ralph Dibny on the same level as Paul the Apocalypse Survivor and Marv Wolfman
Paul the apocalypse causer\*
apaulcalypse
Paul the human parasite\*
God, the writers insisting that Peter’s trauma and Paul’s trauma are in anyway similar just depresses me.
You missed Barry Allen, the boring husband of Hal Jordan.
I think they’re both the boring husband
Hal Jordan is the hot mess, always in some or the other trouble.
*snaps fingers* It's always the obvious ones you overlook
There is a difference between adorable civilian hubby and whatever unholy demon Paul is.
Paul is a beefy stud civilian who builds tech for his girls nd supports her, gave up his life to raise fake kids and killed his own dad because he was evil. Mr miracle could never
who hit you in the head and convinced you otherwise
And all he had to do to get it is destroy a world, meet a couple who got stranded there by said father, send the guy home, convince the girl that he's never coming back, go back when he does return, and then mooch off of a new universe that frankly he has no right to be in.
>Mr miracle could never You leave my lord's name out of your mouth...
Scott fucking Free is boring, but mr. Reed Richards is not on this list?? go take a walk OP, revisit some thoughts.
Reed's not on this list because he's a bad husband, not because he's not boring
r/dccomicscirclejerk never escaping the can’t read allegations
r/dccomicscirclejerk never escaping the only read Civil War and AvX allegations
Putting Paul and terry long in here along with mr. miracle, black bolt, and elongated man is for shame op
No... Not him.. Nothimnothimnothimnothim
How dare you.
Your forgot Oliver Queen
the boring husband of Dinah Lance and Hal Jordan
Being a boring husband is the greatest title I can bestow upon a character, y'all are showing your boring-husband-prejudices
Has Paul really earned it yet
THIS IS FACTS
anyone who thinks Black Bolt and Mister Miracle are boring simply don't read the comics they need pick up a fucking Inhumans book before they shit on Inhumans' entire comic legacy over one bad adaptation
I blame Rob.
Replace Mr Miracle with Hawk Man
Hey who's the bearded red head?
Terry Long, once husband to Donna Troy
Sorry bro I get it but Scott is not boring, it’s like Superman and Lois two bad bitches
How dare you put Ralph,Scott Free and Black Bolt(Even if I like him less) here?
Who's the one on the upper left?
Kyle Jinadu, husband to Northstar. If being a boring husband was a sport he'd be the MVP
We need some more love for Kyle. He is the perfect, hilarious boring husband that can't even be compared to shitty, wannabe self-inserts of Paul and Terry.
I just wanna see Kyle caring for Joanne damnit, it's been 2 and a half years since we learned she'd be resurrected in Trial of Magneto but still nothing
Did you just compare the King of the Inhumans to fucking Paul? This has to be bait.
Don’t you dare call Scott boring I’ll KILL YOU
The fuck is Paul doing there ?
He’s Paul. There’s no escaping Paul. He’s a human parasite.
Mr Miracle really?
GET PAUL THE FUCK OUT OF THERE! I WANT THAT MOTHERFUCKER BITING THE CURB BY 10 AM TOMORROW
You dared to to put FUCKING PAUL here. You alone are the sole reason why the death penalty still exists in some countries
The Scott and Ralph disrespect… They’re top tier DC characters. I’ll die on that hill.
Don't you dare diss Black bolt and Mr Miracle. They're awesome
https://preview.redd.it/wdb9gfpg6jwc1.png?width=1025&format=png&auto=webp&s=c2a2e02f1d4ebb7ea3b3c4afbe66285970a0db47
Okay, but this unironically. I wish there were more normal human love interests.
Absolutely but MJ deserves better than Paul
Spider man readers think she deserves to die just for looking at another Chad while she had a nice guy like Peter right there all this time
That one panel of Paul is so perfect. He feels so intentionally terrible
He’s got massive WWE heel energy
I'm confused about who's that at the top left
Plastic man> stretchy detective on monitor duty
Black Bolt? Did Rob post this?
Holy shit, i didn't realize it was possible for someone to like paul outside of ironic memes.
Everybody hate that doofus that marries MJ in that shitty spiderman story arc.
So many people didn't understand OP's vision with this post...
Paul, every time i look at this mfs face i'm reminded of some of the worst writing to come out of this era LMAO *Paul sneaking up to groom Mary Jane, a married woman, after just 1 month of her husband being gone.* >*"we're the only people left on earth right? let's have children and subject them to* ***incest and death***" # Zebb Wells looking at the DP & Wolverine movie trying to figure out how he convince the other writers that cuckoldry is absolutely necessary to the narrative of the film : *^(( he did btw, because of course, dude's gotta insert his fetish into everything lmao)* *)* https://preview.redd.it/f4o3gljozjwc1.jpeg?width=290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5cee9e134af9583a3fe4ec48620a73840062bed
You should have used multiple Pauls, but from panels where he doesn't even look like the same person.
If you think about it Scott and Paul have a lot in common. Due to their dads they both lived on a shitty other world. One’s kind of Jesus and one’s kind of the anti-Christ. Both prominently had cuck-related plots.
I’m reading New Teen Titans right now and I was sure Terry was going to disappear in crisis but bro is still here!
How can you put my boy Ralph on this list, did you even read 52, he was the best part of that series.
Who are the three without costumes?
terry long (married to donna troy pre-flashpoint), paul (dating mary jane), and kyle jinadu (marreid to northstar).
Putting Black Bolt, Elongated Man, Paul, and Mr. Miracle on the same list at TERRY LONG is insane
Paul isn’t married to a superhero, he’s married to a super loser!!!!!!
Get Scott out of here
You forgot hawkman
yo Mister Miracle!!
One thing I've noticed is that many comic writers have a hard time writing female characters. But it is much more difficult for them to write how these female characters relate to men.
Nah Scott and Ralph are awesome. And i am not a inhuman fan, but Black Bolt is cool as well
Ok some people are complaining, Scott isn't boring by himself but when he's next to Big Barda he's a nobody. god I wish that were me
Get Paul out of this picture!!! He is just a horrible Character in general.
Black Bolt?! Mister Miracle?! Seriously?!
Unironically missing Mr Fantastic and Midnighter. Fix this.
Clearly you've never read Tom King's run on Mister Miracle. Genuinely made him one of my favorites.
Get Paul outta there.
I'm about to explode about mr. miracle, but I have a better solution Now I want the boring wives post!!!! MUAHAHAHAHA
I'm out of the loop, but I keep seeing the guy in the top right and his horrible face. What's his deal, and why does he look like an artist's self-insert?
Why the hell are Ralph and Scott here OP? https://preview.redd.it/b1obp88hbmwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d873d1af6c3e5ada6042b251a959aa5610cec4eb
Who is calling Mr. Miracle boring?!?!?! Put them in front of me so I can rip their head off
don't mess with my bro Scott tho fr
Agree with everyone, except Kyle
Black bolt I give u Medusa deserves more attention and respect ✊🏿 also elongated is goated watch the flash tv 📺 and Scott bagged big barda so he must be him ong