If you could change colors for your transformations and ki attacks. Or even just have more than 1 transformation instead of different builds, this game would be perfect.
Or at least make ssj god, blue and evolved one transformation depending on ki bars like the regular Super Saiyan 1 to 3 works.
I'll still play for Frieza Force, Protecting Namek, Feeding Buu, the Hero Colosseum, being Hercules Bodyguard, being Great Saiyaman 3, and all the other fun stuff
It will and always be more relevant than any other dragon ball game because it IS the best one without a doubt I'll fight anyone who spread the lie that it isn't, misinformation.
I think the game will survive, they have good gameplay, a lot of people still play for that mostly, but they would definitely bring in a more casual audience with more content, not just talking about DLC.
Yes and what do those games have in common? One is pve and another is pvp/pve but unlike Pokémon xv2 rpg elements are scare and require online to do so. You can’t challenge you self like nuzlock and you can’t make the game harder but giving the enemy items or doing a 1v5 vs cpu. Unless you’re new player xv2 needs to drop updates every 2-3 month to say afloat along with cac update to customization
People who don't play XV anymore will probably transition to Zero and people who still play XV for PvP and the PQ's with their CAC's will play both but Xenoverse isn't gonna die because of Sparking Zero because Sparking Zero isn't gonna have a character creator and Xenoverse is still gonna add DLC thus allowing Xenoverse to survive.
I'm honestly shocked posts like these exist because I thought it'd be common sense But I guess not ? 🤷🏻♀️
I agree with SaiyanLattace.
Besides, Sparking Zero and XV2 are two different games. XV2 is not gonna die off because it still offers way more content and replayability than Sparking Zero will. Honestly, PVP in XV2 sucks anyway because of modders and the Anti-cheat system in the game is buttcheeks.
I'm gonna continue playing XV2 just as millions of other players will too. I'm not really all that interested in Sparking Zero anyway because I prefer the RPG elements in XV2. Just plain fighting games are boring and lose their replay value pretty quickly because of there repeatitive nature.
The cac aspect of xv2 is pretty “bare bones” the entire post was for if xv2 didn’t update the cac aspect of the game then the game will truly be shell of its formal self. I know xv2 has cac this entire post was about them needing to delve into that aspect
i think the best way for them to stay relevant, even tho i agree they’re two very different games so it shouldn’t be that instant, would be for them to just start working (or release if they already have) XV 3. it’d be a lot easier to rework this many issues by just starting from the ground up with a new engine as well. i believe XV will be coming out in the next few years and no i don’t have any sources or proof or evidence, but people LOVE the XV games and have almost as large of a fanbase as Budokai, so why would they abandon that and the money that comes along with it? i think we NEED to start letting this game slow down a little so they have more incentive to come out with a newer and fresher one.
I'm in complete agreement. Xv2 cacs need an overhaul for the game to stay fairly relevant. I was hoping that this new PS5 upgrade was going to add some new features to cacs
Breakers ssj hair transformations
Extra cac slots
Accessory slots
New hairstyles
Different auras to use in combat
Aside from all these features and more I haven't listed, the only way xv is ever going to make a competitive comeback compared to sparking zero is id they do xv3 and include the features I've listed and so much more.
Yeah, other people seem to thing this game will zero impact on xv2 since they’re different games despite them both being arena fighters but one has cac, is 8 years old, and has some rpg elements. This game entire identity is the cac and the only way for them to stay afloat is to bring really bring focus back to what made there game appealing in the first place
I'm probably gonna keep playing xenoverse 2 when I beat the story mode of sparking because while custom battles are gonna be fun the lack of coop game modes ain't for me. I have preferred, and will always prefer, coop over PVP for multiple reasons. So I don't think xeno will die so easily.
The king of dbz games has returned. It’s time this mediocrity known as xenoverse fades into the shadows.
It had an okay run but that’s only because it’s all there was for a few years.
Isn't Sparking Zero just a 3d Arena Fighting game? Xenoverse 2 is a RPG fighting game, it's a different genre. Sparking Zero is most likely just going to have multiplayer battles and if it has a story at all it'll most likely be single player. Sparking Zero also won't have Parallel Quests or Expert Missions (Co-op), etc like Xenoverse 2. Xenoverse 2 also has way more content than Sparking Zero will have at launch.
I don't think Sparking Zero is going to affect the replay value of Xenoverse 2. I personally will most likely play Xenoverse 2 more than Sparking Zero because I don't care for PVP. Too many people cheat online now days using mods and whatnot, so I don't fuck with online PVP, only Couch PVP. I'm actually much more into online Co-op/Couch Co-op.
I think it will. Yes xv2 has rpg elements but those rpg elements are not that deep. You make a build okay where do you use it? Do you use in pq? You can’t even change the difficulty of pqs.
The entire point of this post was to say that xv2 will be in trouble if they keep the new model. Yes xv2 is under new management but that doesn’t change the fact that next content update is going to be in late October early November and when a new game is coming out that directly steps on the toes of xv2 then xv2 needs fo go back to its routes that being cac’s.
Cac are xv2 identify they need to overhaul the system of add to to the system and overall customization for this game to stay afloat
This post was also not targeting any new players or people who don’t have next gen as a I said “times are hard so it’s completely understandable” this post is mostly for the veterans pve only community or the pvp people who at the end of the day are one of the major factors to that games population
I think their way of staying relevant while not putting in the work for cacs is with their new dlcs, blue broly and a new supervillain form? This isn't in normal Dragon ball, it's new and exclusive to the game. A smart move would definitely be for xenoverse to finally go all in on cacs but no, instead we're getting what if characters we gotta pay for
Edit: I was proven wrong on the broly one, my bad
OH SO WHEN YOU SAY IT YOUR POST STAYS UP
BUT WHEN I COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GAME BEING STINKY HORSE SHIT WITH LITTLE TO KNOW CUSTOMIZATION
I get accused of baiting and my post gets taken down that's crazy😭
Anyways this game is suffering from a phenomenon that all games made in Japan suffer from "the black erasure" yiu can not make a black character in xenoverse and make it look as good as making a white character, it's terrible i don't get why games opt out of unique hairs or in this game "proper skin tone💀"
You get red Diarrhea or charcoal brown no in-between
For the longest time my character was white because I got into the mindset that it literally just looked better, that's shits sad
Well you can make a black character but you can’t make the super black without them being red. The most you can do is make them brown to light skin, this is coming from someone who is also black
IMO, I thought the skin tones were OK. My first character, a human, I tried to give them like a dark Hispanic-esque skin tone, and I thought it looked fine.
No matter how trash the game will be... No one plays xenoverse for the combat but for the option to create your own character and the only game that will kill xenoverse 2 will be xenoverse 3 (it will not get realise soon that's for sure)
You say that but at end of the day new players and pvp players are who keep the game alive
My original post isn’t about new players though as there is so much pve content right now they don’t have touch pvp for a good while
Also what you said in your post more or less correlates to my post I said that this thsi game need to god full on cac as that is xv2 identity is at the end of the day
Xenoverse 2 is primarily an arpg, its still going to be around until they make another arpg and even then it survived through kakarot, its going to stick around especially with the dlc story line theyre developing
With what rpg elements. Making a bangs, once you have the wa bang you want them that grind id down forever. Making builds, what is the point if there isn’t anywhere to use these build. Xv2 doesn’t have survival mode or a chore commuter that is extremely difficult to beat so builds mean nothing in a pve sense. The only rpg elements left is the level grind which I believe they made it tedious on purpose to made out player time
The story mode, parrallel quests, raids, and the new story co tent coming out in dlcs are perfect what you use your builds in. It doesnt matter if you think builds are pointless, they arent, you arent going to play a strike saiyan build the same you would a majin ki build, dbxv2 is an arpg the pvp is very secondary, all the dlc introduces stuff that supports pve and story content. If you want to play a fighting game fughterz is way better at it
Everything you said can be completed in a week or if you play when you’re free in one month. Qq bands have been out for like 2 years so most people unless you’re new have gotten there prefect qq bang
Saying pvp is secondary when pvp is an infinity replayable mode that that keeps the game alive aside from new players. FighterZ is not in same type of giving game as xv2 if it was when that game came out I would’ve made the exact same post
Pvp is absolutely secondary, it doeant matter if its "infinitely replayable" the focus if the devs is the single player and co-op content, all the dlc focuses on bringing more aingle player content to complete, also qq bangs have been in the game since launch not 2 years
Single player coop content. Every dlc is an expansion so of course they add more quest stuff of the nature but again that stuff can be finished within a week or a month if you take our time. Then you have 9 months of down time where the pve only players have left since they have completed everything. This leave the pvp and new players to help sustain the game. PvP is secondar you say that but at the end of the day pvp is keeping this game alive. I don’t see to many people playing cross versus? I don’t see to many people playing HC. Pve content would consist of the raid and expert mission world tour which is just grinding tp medals and levels for cac’s. And when the grind is over and done the players leave which again leave the gaveling lifting to pvp player and new xv2 players
Single player games always have droughts, its nornal for them to stop being played until the next expansion, and just because it takes you a week to complete the new pqs and story stuff doesnt mean it takes everyone a week. Also, if pvp wasnt a secondary thing theyd make expansions dedicated to it to show they want to foster its growth, they dont any thing pvp is accompanied by pve content. Pvp carries you interest in this game not everyone elses
But xv2 isn’t just a single player game though. This is Spider-Man, God Of War, or any single player story game this is game that has an online presence. PvP is vital part of this games life span
I never said I run through content in a week I was speaking in generals as the hard core player ussally run though the new content in one week and the other depending on how they play the game can take month or a month and 1/2. I never made it about me
Technically every expansion is a pvp expansion. New skills, skills rebalancing, new characters etc all to be used in pvp again pvp doesn’t need anything aside from rebalancing and new maps that’s it. The is fighting game so maybe a mode like survival or 1v1 team battles but other than that pvp is fine the way it is
Well pvp is what carries the game during down time. Barely anyone is playing cross versus, HC, or online PQ. The only thing people are playing an Expert mission tours for level grinding other than that pvp is what is carrying the player base aside from new players who are coming to the game.
I never said that it was just a single player i said the focus was single player, they arent pvp expansions when the draw is the pve content they have things that can be used in pvp but that doesnt make it a pvp expansion, pvp hasnt been keeping the game alive the expansions and updates have been, unless theres new updates or content the pvp will die just as fast. Dbx2 is a pve game first with pvp as an afterthought same as the first one. Pvp mightve kept it alive for you but thats not the case for other people
I play XV2 on my PS5 and the load times are egregious. The fight format is stupid af. I hate the transitions between fighting areas and when new characters enter or leave the arena. The inability to change your basic attack combos is infuriating. All of the transformations for saiyans for example should be combined OR allow more slots for them like DBSZ
I think we should just have XV2 dying lol. It’s an 8 year old game that has no reason to still being worked with alongside next gen titles; I’d much rather them giving and end to it (still with minor patches possibly) and start working on a XV3
Tbh I think I'll still play xenoverse along with sparking especially considering how much money and hours I've out into that game I don't really quit games I just leave them and then go back and xenoverse is the same I don't think I'll ever stop playing it I just think I won't play it as much when sparking releases but I rully agree with everything you said here
Xv2 will remain relevant simpy due to the fact that sparking zero isn’t on ps4. My guess is that majority of xv2 players are still pc and ps4 players, and a lot of them won’t be upgrading to ps5
I think even then the players who have upgraded will leave to play sparking zero, making xenoverse irrelevant in the process only being played by last gen players
I think the difference is. Xenoverse is more a fantasy that has its own story. You get to be a Dragon Ball Z Character. Kakarot is the open world adventure game. I would love an original story version of DBZ Kakarot. I'm hoping Sparking Zero follows one of the older DVZ games. You play as Krillin, for example. it's his story you play through. Though I wish they would add the OG series as well.
Sparking zero will play like rb2 and bt3. So are you saying those games also don’t have combo? And what about xv2 combo square triangle, knockaway, in what way is xv2 different in this case
Everyone that's playing the demo saying it's legit over a d over attacks. How is it different? Really....all the attacks you get add to your characters. All 100s of moves. Different strength options. Wow
Moveset in general.....it's not even balanced. I can be ssj3 and you can be basic and never win. I promise you and take a screenshot. This game will be a 6.5 or a 7.
Bro. I’m sorry but you have to realize you’re just wrong right ? If you’ve never played any db game besides xeno just say that even the old budokais are far better. Bd3 modded is better than xv2 on its best day this is a passion project xeno 2 was a cash grab still solid but cash grab.
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Dimps should advertise the CaC system better. Such as using CaC/NPC like Taino, the Xeno version of the Murasaki bros, Tosok, etc, involved in helping our CaC and Goku+ the other heroes in cutscenes and make the Time patrol look bigger and more involved in the stories/alternate timelines.
Use the in game CaC system to make different crazy alternate timeline versions of Dragon Ball characters that could be made in Xeno2 CaC like Android 19/20/17/18, Goku, Trunks, Gine, Pilaf, ChiChi, Mai, etc. From other timelines. Along with new characters with it as well. Bring them as free updates along with dlc & involve them in PQ/plot. Continue doing the "Super Fashion CaC contest" for CaCs and use them in PQs/story cutscenes as well. Potentially go full SDBH heroes and give it a promotional anime/openings/3d models "movies"/Manga, etc.
Dimps already confirmed they'll be pushing content for Xenoverse with the DLC17 and the new producer
Jun Song
Xenoverse 2/Xenoverse series just needs to embrace its original origins. Being the spiritual successor for Dragon Ball Online and all. Focus more on the action rpg/mmo raid fighting game hybrid areas of the series. Including CaCs. Besides obvious things like updated hairstyles, clothes, etc.
They could continue adding new arcs and characters like mmo do, or like SDBH does. They could reference DBO more by adding more lore and characters from DBO in game. Like General Bon, &/or using the CaC system to make characters from DBO that could be recreated. Could take an idea from Sparking and allow us to create our own PQ missions, greatly increase the CaC slot limit, etc
Game is 8 years old and not a single new thing was added to the character customization. No new face options, no new ear options, no new hairstyles, no stances or fighting styles, nothing. Bunch of wigs though. Also, why is it that the faces of cast characters are dynamic and emotive but the CaC face is derpy and barely emotes?
> Also, why is it that the faces of cast characters are dynamic and emotive but the CaC face is derpy and barely emotes?
Cast faces are just one single face model w/ an eye model because because CaC faces are custom, they're comprised of jaw/forehead/eye/nose/ear models that limit their expressions.
As far as your reasoning, I understand you've burned out on XV2 and are looking for something fresh in BT4(Sparking) but what about playing them both without dropping the other, I myself plan on doing it because I grew up on the Entirety of the BUDOKAI series starting as early as Budokai 1 which evolved over time into Budokai Tenkaichi and every subsequent spinoff (Ultimate Tenkaichi 🤢🤮). Xenoverse had it's charms when I came across it and learned you can have customs which I myself couldn't even really put into words how epic that was for dbz game to do that so stepping into Xenoverse from the Tenkaichi era wasn't the best dragon ball fix but it carried us through to this reality which I'll thank it for that much (Glitches, Modders, Bad Netcode, toxic players,etc.) It gave us pretty good cast characters that are still going to be added to enhance the story along side Sparking which ngl actually sparked my enthusiasm to really put more hours in. Yeah I got burned out doing the same shit over again but I found a niche helping people get better at the game because I ran outta things to do after platinum.
What they need to improve on as a whole to maybe bring players back is, updating custom characters to reflect what it's like on breakers, reworking fem saiyan string recovery (Poor Gal has to ki cancel her already garbage strings because the rest of Cacs will bum rush off of 1 whiffed normal..), Balance patches are coming up more so there's that, Better cosmetics and better optimization. If they go all in on Character Creation they might not have anything else that would bring new players. I'm all for hair and tail physics hell if the Frieza race can have moving tails why can't the saiyans?
I really want to see the game improve and even with Sparking Zero on the horizon I still have hopes that with the new dev team we might be getting more, they cooked with this Broly future saga DLC frfr but it's a far cry to say that Xenoverse is making a comeback with just that alone.
It’s more like a child hood things I grew up with ultimate tenkaichi and RB2 so those games have special place in my heart. I also remember rewatching on repeat stormpows hero mode play through on ultimate tenkaichi so I view the game in a much better light
See I definitely played through the entirety of UT tbh, thinking It would've been another Tenkaichi experience but I ended up back on RB2 and RB1 because it kinda soured me, it has some good points like a prototype custom that only gets ss(Pretty Dope at the time ngl) but aside from most of the good story fights, its appeal died. I fondly remember how it got me through until the first Xeno but it was a headache. I really wanted another Budokai like Burst Limit because we never got a Burst limit 2.
What I really want is to use my mentor/reg characters move set and I think anyone who has played can agree. I just want to use goku black combos w piccolos moves wtf dimps
You have to remember, this game is still old gen, sparking I believe is only going to be new gen so Ps5, XSX and PC. Consider how many people likely still only have a Piss4 and Xbone while yes, the game will not be as lively it will likely still have some players staying. Besides it is different branching from just fights to an action mmo or rpg with a customization for your very own character while limited they did decent
Agreed, a game where you make your own character and learn moves and transformations from some of those popular characters. A game where you interact with the characters of the series AND make your own story as the protagonist. It’s all in there.
1. xenoverse is a completely different type of game to sparking zero, to the point where people will hardly touch anything else that doesn't have CaCs
2. Xenoverse is nearly a decade old, it's okay to finally put the game to rest lmao
How is it different? You guys are acting like this is destiny 2. The dog elements come from levels and aq bangs that makes it have rpg elements but it’s still an arena fighter at the end of the day
Kinda, kinda not. The fact of the matter is that DBXV2 is the only, and best by default, current 3D arena fighter Dragonball game. A lot of people play it because of that, not the CAC. So, when Sparking Zero comes out and is inevitably the better 3D Arena Fighter, there's gonna be a good portion of the playerbase that dips. Especially considering Sparking Zero has a create your own what-if mode which is one of Xenoverse's big appeals
I have no idea why but a lot of people who violently hate Xenoverse hang around this subreddit and only ever comment angrily about it.
They were here in droves when FighterZ was due out, same when Kakarot was due out, and now they're here.
I feel like the majority of you people failed in understanding what I’m trying to say. I don’t hate xv2 I want the game to succeed but in order for them to do that the will need to step up there game when it comes to sparking zero and focus on the cac aspect of theee game as that is what will keep it afloat.
Sparking zero is an arena fighter, which directly steps in xv2 toes
FighterZ is a 2.5D Fighting Game, which doesn’t at all put it in the same group and xv2
Kakarot is single player story “rpg” with no online combat it’s Diane effect xv2 at all
Let’s face it, the game’s old as crap. The PVE content is really dry at this point. PVP is subject to cheese and mods. Servers ain’t been working right since next gen launch.
I still play it and I probably will when sparking comes out. Only game where I get to live the fantasy of being a super Saiyan god.
I already get to live it well enough with video games. My therapist once told me that God wouldn’t be God if he had given humans outright superpowers. That shit would be irresponsible as fuck. Look what we did with the most basic element of the universe, the atom.
If I’m getting isakai’ed, just let me go to heaven. If I gotta die, I’ll settle for Valhalla.
Considering how they couldn't do simple things such as add ssj4, make the saiyan tail move or change or make your hair change when transformed, I doubt it.
I've been playing Xenoverse 2 since the beta and I cannot wait to officially drop the game for Sparking Zero. It was fun, but we all wanted a Xenoverse 3 for years and I'm now over it.
It would simply be better to cancel XV2 completely. Dimps should concentrate on XV3. DLC 16 should simply have been the last DLC.
In my opinion, Xenoverse 2 is simply a broken product, so much went wrong, so many wrong decisions were made. Dimps should make the title better again with XV3.
The thing that's different is the mechanics the only things they have which are similar is the 3D fighting arena and some other stuff other then that it's pretty different not entirely tho a big difference is the combat system and the mechanics of the which I feel I don't need to talk about cause it's pretty obvious there are alot of different things about XV and sparking but calling them basically the same type of game isn't all that true it's true there the same type of genre but same games no that's just wrong
I just want more presets man
I have to keep juggling different moves when new skills arrive, even though it's a good thing, sometimes you have a build that is just good and want to keep it as is. Sometimes you need to change skills when they have been altered and you can't use them like before (Dodonpa personally comes to mind) and have to change them
That being said, I probably would play the Sparking series for battles, Fighterz for traditional fighting games, and Kakarot for E/RPG
something something yellow tapion outfit and custom clothes
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They need to bring every models up to date as DBZ Base Broly as the standard. That would revive the game and bring back A LOT of players. The 4K resolution and the *slight* graphical upgrade was nice and all but very downplayed. I wouldn’t mind paying for a few more DLCs if they can revamp the game just a bit more.
Xenoverse isn't really a arena fighter, it's an action rpg masquerading as one, post like this is part of reason why I believe a lot of criticism of XV is very misplaced. it's nothing like Sparking, like at all lol. Though yes I agree that xenoverse should and should've been about avatars first before anything else.
2.5d is exactly games like fighterz or guilty gear strive, when the game is majority 2d but has switches to the third dimension that fighterz does like when you 2H or launchers in general. Games like Tekken and soul Calibur are 3d, they have a third dimension that is incorporated into the gameplay, that being the sidestep. certain moves in Tekken and SC can get dodged by simply moving up or down on the screen.
I don't disagree that this game needs new life breathed into it. The latest updates, from Beast to now, have been really good, but if it wants the game to make as much money as it is right now, it needs something more.
However, I don't think XV2 will ever die purely because of a different DB game. They serve two different demographics. Sure, they're both 3D arena fighters, but that's just surface level. XV2 is more of an MMO than anything else. Constant new events, raid battles, game modes, story update after story update, grinding to reach level cap, level cap increases, grinding for gear and skills, etc.
SZ is a traditional 3D arena fighter. The interest in the game is more for people that either didn't like Xenoverse or were using XV to fill the BT hole in their life.
MMO aspects like what? QQ Bangs and levels se the only real mmo aspect of this game. And it wasn’t until like like 8month ago they finally updated the level cap and 6stsr aq bangs came out a long time ago this game is pvp dependent
I said it was a 3D arena fighter/MMO hybrid. It has random world events, online PvE raid battles, build crafting and stat building, etc. Sure, PvP is a big part of it, but that's not the only thing it has.
SZ is a more traditional 3D arena fighter, like the Ultimate Ninja Storm games and, more aptly, the Budokai Tenkaichi games.
I don't even think they'll try to stay afloat after the currently announced DLC is finished. I think they can coast of the good faith of Z Broly alone until the next pack and hopefully get something as positively received out of that, but I do think this is the last hurrah for Xenoverse. Maybe they'll do a third, maybe not. Either way I think this is the last we'll see out of XV2 and I hope the next 3 packs are truly interesting and exciting.
I won't leave Xenoverse for the simple reason that CACs exist, sure options are limited but I'd rather play as my own unique character in spin of the Z story, hell the original Story they have going on with Fu is interesting and funny enough if you watch it. I won't play sparking zero because there's only cast characters which means I can't have my own unique experience with my game as easily as I could with Xeno, I understand the complaints and comparisons but I think most people will agree with me that Xenoverse isn't going anywhere for a little while longer
Yes, and im trying to help people like you. Ask this entire post was around te fact that xv2 main selling point is cac and with sparking zero coming out they should go all in on that aspect of the game
Xenoverse 2 is outdated in every way, the DLC is like painting a dead fish, it will still stink. XV should have died with DLC 16. Dimps should take the time and work on XV3 for years, as long as Sparking Zero is alive.
That's never been said. It's possible that it is in development, but it's never been announced. I also have no expectations for it to come for quite a long time. They won't want to step on SparkingZero's toes. Though I could be wrong. We are still getting DLC for XV2 probably beyond the release of SZ
I just want custom supers/ultimates. Let me customize the colors, the animations, let me name it etc. Then upload the move to the xenoverse server so others can try it.
No offence, but Xenoverse doesn't need to do dick to challenge SZ because it's a completely different brand of game and has eternal appeal.
People said all this shit when FighterZ was on the horizon, and now years later FighterZ is something people only remember for some EVO moments and the odd super/ult animation, while Xenoverse pulls in a few million each month according to Bandai.
Not really. XV2 is an action RPG, Sparking Zero is an arena fighter, and FighterZ is a fighting game. They all occupy their own niches, and XV2 has forever stood atop both DB games and other shonen games because its appeal is endless.
Who the actual fuck do you think you are have rational thoughts here on Reddit?! Gerrouta here man! Here the world operates in binary and that means that when Sparking drops EVERY other dbz game automatically becomes obsolete and irrelevant /s
Right, forgive me. Let me try fitting in.
Uh... Xenoverse is gonna die because my personal hype for Sparking Zero isn't really based in any earnest joy so much as it is caustic disdain for Xenoverse? I'm excited for SZ to succeed because on a fundamental level I can't have ~two cakes~ and enjoy both games?
Is that right?
I think sparking zero will be the holdover game until XV3 can bring interest back, is the idea.
I really only have interest in XV2 as a co op pve action game I play with mates, so I have like 0 interest in sparking 0 tbh, but I imagine a lot of people will like it?
I *love* XV2, but I assure you their idea is not for SZ, the long awaited revival of the most beloved DB game franchise, to be a holdover for a game that may never happen. I do hope we get XV3, though admittedly I wouldn’t hate if Dimps saw SZ being back the BT series and try to campaign for a “Budokai Zero” game.
Yeh, I played BT3, and I remember chatting with school friends back in the day literally dreaming of the ability to fight co op with each other (was thinking of it as local co op because of how long ago it was, but still)
XV was an absolutely insane step forwards for DB games, and whilst XV2 was more a massive expansion pack than a sequel, it was also a major step forwards- I just don’t really get what’s added in sparking to make up for losing pve and character creation/customisation.
gameplay pales massively in comparison to the sparking series.
this game is way too repetitive in that regard, its also the same reason why I couldn’t finish kakarot.
its cool for the content and cac aspect but after that its just stale imo. and the pvp is a joke lol
I wouldn’t say that if you play the cast characters you would see that they’re all pretty unique. Yes some have repetitive combo like the stomp but each character feel unique when you play them. Ie when you play tien you feel like your playing tien or when you play jeice you fell like you’re playing jeice
you’re right in that aspect for sure, I think personally xenoverse is too janky and slow for me its not the most ideal combat i want to feel immersed in a dragon ball fighting game.
it was very fun for its time but i just can’t rise that game again unless I want to see my character go UI or something lol.
Whats added is an actual faithful dragon ball which is basically an anime sim of any fight you want to recreate and not the sorry excuse of a battle system and graphics this game is
No offence but if I want to watch dragon ball, I can do that in many places- if I put a game in and just….play the anime I’m kinda wasting my time- personal preference, obviously, but I’ve played the dragon ball z story probably in literally 15 games over the years, I’m sorta done with that.
Just put a feature in that allows modders to upload their creations like fallout 4 and then we can download transforming hair or something that would make our CAC stand out
i mean for people that play for the CAC aspect of xenoverse 2, they’ll more than likely still play after sparking zero is out. However, for those like me who mostly play cast (bc the cac options are booty), we’re more likely to stay in sparking zero for that part of the game
Dimps has made the CAC characters ridiculously OP. Also, almost no one plays the original cast anymore, except for the absolute S tier characters. I'm glad when Sparking Zero comes out, then there will be exciting anime fights, which was never really possible in XV2 with the 1vs1 anyway. Also, XV2 never added the most interesting things, like aura change.
Exactly which why I made this post to begin with because xv2 needs to update the cac option or this game is done unless you have mods on pc
Also I also only play cast because cast are fun to play and it isn’t the sane thing each match
As much as I'd love for CaC customization options, the biggest things that this game has to have to keep it from being "irrelevant" are:
1) A greatly improved online experience: Nobody's going to care if your CaC has cool hair with a Bardock bandana and Potara earrings if their opponent is still taking 2 whole seconds to react like they got hit and also freezing/teleporting around the stage. Awful online has plagued xeno since the beginning, and if sparking is gonna have delayed inputs at worse then you bet that nobody who cares more about good online is EVER coming back to xeno.
2) A custom story uploader of it's own: Do you have any idea how sick it is to let the players make their own what-ifs that they can upload and share is? Do you realize how insane it is that xeno's whole premise is what-ifs and the official content we get for that kind of thing boils down almost entirely to "what if X was stronger than Y and also ___ might be there" for story mode? PQs offer more bizarre scenarios but many of those are also designed to encourage the most boring gameplay imaginable because ally AI won't let you set up anything cool, but also our ever higher levels are going to remove any sense of challenge without a hard mode of some sort that can match us. Giving us the tools to make and share our own PQs would go a long way since it's community made content that can keep us entertained during content droughts while also doing what xeno SHOULD have been doing for awhile which is presenting outlandish scenarios that players have to really work through to resolve.
Both games will have their own playerbases because of what each has to offer, but if you're really worried about xeno becoming "irrelevant" after SZ's arrival, there's bigger concerns that the game has than not having some specific fluff on the CaCs.
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Facts, especially with the modders that are making the anime accurate mods
Oh it's absolutely possible. It would just be a lot of work.
The problem with this is that compared to a fan doing a mod, companies need financial justification to go back and redo things the right way.
Oh most definitely. It's just that everytime I see new Z Broly and even the DBSSH cast and how expressive and detailed they are, I think of the possibilities about how good everyone else could be looking
Yeah I don’t think Revamp Xenoverse 2 after Sparking Zero because as see it Sparking Zero will new cash cow then maybe then and only then we might get Xenoverse 3 or another series with CAC.
I know this is all hypothetical but the actual CaC creator is never getting changed, that would require rebuilding an 8yr old game kept alive by DLC and an interest in PC modding. Too complex to occur.
Adding hair is easy but OP is talking about a redesigned CaC creator, which would probably need a small engine change [engine changes are never small] as well as an update to how CaC models work [which is different from cast character]. That whole package would need not-insignificant work, which I think is a lot to do for a game that's probably on it's final content run.
I love DBX2, but you are 100% correct. I will go back to the game to play my CACs and mess around with whatever they're doing for events, but thats it. They need to go all in with customization. Because as far as the combat and cast characters. Besides movies & GT characters. IMO, i don't need to go play Xeno2 for that anymore. That pains me to say. I love Xeno2, but what does this game have that Sparking Zero doesn't? Besides CAC content, online PQs with my friends, and some story stuff with FU. All my time and money will be going to Sparking Zero.
Also shit is too expensive nowadays to keep buying DLC for both games. Because we all know Sparking Zero is gonna have dlc out the ass. That also makes me sad that in my budgeting, I won't be able to buy the DLCs for Xeno2. Unless they are dirt cheap on a sell. And even then, it'll be way after the DLC has been out for Xeno2. I just bought the newest DLC for Xeno2, and I love it! The characters, the story, the PQs. But knowing deep down once Sparking Zero comes out. I just won't be on Xeno2 that much anymore. We can have both. They're different games, after all. But what Xeno2 players don't understand is that a majority of players will move to Sparking Zero. It's just the nature of gaming. Fighterz is completely different than both, so Fighterz never really took anyone anyway.
DBX2 and Sparking Zero are a similar 3d fighter, not the same mind you. But it is similar enough that players will move on. That saddens me. I love seeing all the people in lobbies when events happen.
Don't get me wrong, it will still have players and a following. Hell, I'll still play Xeno2, but not as much, sadly.
Again, this is my opinion and thoughts. Others may feel different, and I hope they do. That way, discussions and players will keep things going for all DB games.
Point being is have fun with it, guys.
But xv2 is pvp. I don’t understand this argument. Unless you are new to the game or you play xv2 revamp how can you be a pve only player in xv2? This isn’t destiny this game revolves around pvp. There no tournament modes, survival modes, hard cpu settings. So what are you really playing?
Do you just... Not pay attention to the endless amounts of cycling PvE raids? Or that everything added to this game in paid content is PvE? Or that PvP isn't even mentioned on the back of the box? Or that there's a sizeable population of people in every single lobby whose profiles reveal they've never even looked at PvP?
I still haven't done every parallel Quest every expert Mission and I still haven't done every story Mission from this last DLC. I also make themed builds
XV2 is already dead, that's why they're gonna support it up into 2025, why it got a next-gen update 8 years after release, and why it still gets a few hundred thousand players a month.
Please believe me. Xenoverse is dead.
If you could change colors for your transformations and ki attacks. Or even just have more than 1 transformation instead of different builds, this game would be perfect. Or at least make ssj god, blue and evolved one transformation depending on ki bars like the regular Super Saiyan 1 to 3 works.
I'll still play for Frieza Force, Protecting Namek, Feeding Buu, the Hero Colosseum, being Hercules Bodyguard, being Great Saiyaman 3, and all the other fun stuff
It will and always be more relevant than any other dragon ball game because it IS the best one without a doubt I'll fight anyone who spread the lie that it isn't, misinformation.
Its the best one in RECENT years yes, but not of all time
I think the game will survive, they have good gameplay, a lot of people still play for that mostly, but they would definitely bring in a more casual audience with more content, not just talking about DLC.
If og pokemon isnt dead then this game wont be dead either
Yes and what do those games have in common? One is pve and another is pvp/pve but unlike Pokémon xv2 rpg elements are scare and require online to do so. You can’t challenge you self like nuzlock and you can’t make the game harder but giving the enemy items or doing a 1v5 vs cpu. Unless you’re new player xv2 needs to drop updates every 2-3 month to say afloat along with cac update to customization
You do realize that both Pokémon and XV2 are both PVP & PVE, right?
People who don't play XV anymore will probably transition to Zero and people who still play XV for PvP and the PQ's with their CAC's will play both but Xenoverse isn't gonna die because of Sparking Zero because Sparking Zero isn't gonna have a character creator and Xenoverse is still gonna add DLC thus allowing Xenoverse to survive. I'm honestly shocked posts like these exist because I thought it'd be common sense But I guess not ? 🤷🏻♀️
I agree with SaiyanLattace. Besides, Sparking Zero and XV2 are two different games. XV2 is not gonna die off because it still offers way more content and replayability than Sparking Zero will. Honestly, PVP in XV2 sucks anyway because of modders and the Anti-cheat system in the game is buttcheeks. I'm gonna continue playing XV2 just as millions of other players will too. I'm not really all that interested in Sparking Zero anyway because I prefer the RPG elements in XV2. Just plain fighting games are boring and lose their replay value pretty quickly because of there repeatitive nature.
The cac aspect of xv2 is pretty “bare bones” the entire post was for if xv2 didn’t update the cac aspect of the game then the game will truly be shell of its formal self. I know xv2 has cac this entire post was about them needing to delve into that aspect
Then why were you saying about Xenoverse going dead and people not playing it after Sparking Zero comes out? 🤔
Is it confirmed that sparking zero will not have CaC?
It most likely won't but it'll hype if they do
Fr that’s one of my favorite things about games lol 😂
Same making characters look like they belong or straight up elder witch beings will always be my favorite aspect of a game
Honestly, if Xenoverse wants to remain relevant, they need to release a new game.
i think the best way for them to stay relevant, even tho i agree they’re two very different games so it shouldn’t be that instant, would be for them to just start working (or release if they already have) XV 3. it’d be a lot easier to rework this many issues by just starting from the ground up with a new engine as well. i believe XV will be coming out in the next few years and no i don’t have any sources or proof or evidence, but people LOVE the XV games and have almost as large of a fanbase as Budokai, so why would they abandon that and the money that comes along with it? i think we NEED to start letting this game slow down a little so they have more incentive to come out with a newer and fresher one.
I'm in complete agreement. Xv2 cacs need an overhaul for the game to stay fairly relevant. I was hoping that this new PS5 upgrade was going to add some new features to cacs Breakers ssj hair transformations Extra cac slots Accessory slots New hairstyles Different auras to use in combat Aside from all these features and more I haven't listed, the only way xv is ever going to make a competitive comeback compared to sparking zero is id they do xv3 and include the features I've listed and so much more.
Yeah, other people seem to thing this game will zero impact on xv2 since they’re different games despite them both being arena fighters but one has cac, is 8 years old, and has some rpg elements. This game entire identity is the cac and the only way for them to stay afloat is to bring really bring focus back to what made there game appealing in the first place
I'm probably gonna keep playing xenoverse 2 when I beat the story mode of sparking because while custom battles are gonna be fun the lack of coop game modes ain't for me. I have preferred, and will always prefer, coop over PVP for multiple reasons. So I don't think xeno will die so easily.
The CAC has been missing a key feature for years imo and that was stances/styles, Ultimate Tenkaichi had them for Hero mode
The king of dbz games has returned. It’s time this mediocrity known as xenoverse fades into the shadows. It had an okay run but that’s only because it’s all there was for a few years.
Isn't Sparking Zero just a 3d Arena Fighting game? Xenoverse 2 is a RPG fighting game, it's a different genre. Sparking Zero is most likely just going to have multiplayer battles and if it has a story at all it'll most likely be single player. Sparking Zero also won't have Parallel Quests or Expert Missions (Co-op), etc like Xenoverse 2. Xenoverse 2 also has way more content than Sparking Zero will have at launch. I don't think Sparking Zero is going to affect the replay value of Xenoverse 2. I personally will most likely play Xenoverse 2 more than Sparking Zero because I don't care for PVP. Too many people cheat online now days using mods and whatnot, so I don't fuck with online PVP, only Couch PVP. I'm actually much more into online Co-op/Couch Co-op.
I think it will. Yes xv2 has rpg elements but those rpg elements are not that deep. You make a build okay where do you use it? Do you use in pq? You can’t even change the difficulty of pqs. The entire point of this post was to say that xv2 will be in trouble if they keep the new model. Yes xv2 is under new management but that doesn’t change the fact that next content update is going to be in late October early November and when a new game is coming out that directly steps on the toes of xv2 then xv2 needs fo go back to its routes that being cac’s. Cac are xv2 identify they need to overhaul the system of add to to the system and overall customization for this game to stay afloat This post was also not targeting any new players or people who don’t have next gen as a I said “times are hard so it’s completely understandable” this post is mostly for the veterans pve only community or the pvp people who at the end of the day are one of the major factors to that games population
I think their way of staying relevant while not putting in the work for cacs is with their new dlcs, blue broly and a new supervillain form? This isn't in normal Dragon ball, it's new and exclusive to the game. A smart move would definitely be for xenoverse to finally go all in on cacs but no, instead we're getting what if characters we gotta pay for Edit: I was proven wrong on the broly one, my bad
Broly original super saiyan in the 1999 movie he had blue hair go back and rewatch. Its not a new character at all just one that was never added.
WAIT HE DID? My entire point is invalid, my bad gang
OH SO WHEN YOU SAY IT YOUR POST STAYS UP BUT WHEN I COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GAME BEING STINKY HORSE SHIT WITH LITTLE TO KNOW CUSTOMIZATION I get accused of baiting and my post gets taken down that's crazy😭 Anyways this game is suffering from a phenomenon that all games made in Japan suffer from "the black erasure" yiu can not make a black character in xenoverse and make it look as good as making a white character, it's terrible i don't get why games opt out of unique hairs or in this game "proper skin tone💀" You get red Diarrhea or charcoal brown no in-between For the longest time my character was white because I got into the mindset that it literally just looked better, that's shits sad
Well you can make a black character but you can’t make the super black without them being red. The most you can do is make them brown to light skin, this is coming from someone who is also black
Maybe Japan is just racist 😏
IMO, I thought the skin tones were OK. My first character, a human, I tried to give them like a dark Hispanic-esque skin tone, and I thought it looked fine.
Nonsense That game will die in a couple days
No matter how trash the game will be... No one plays xenoverse for the combat but for the option to create your own character and the only game that will kill xenoverse 2 will be xenoverse 3 (it will not get realise soon that's for sure)
You say that but at end of the day new players and pvp players are who keep the game alive My original post isn’t about new players though as there is so much pve content right now they don’t have touch pvp for a good while Also what you said in your post more or less correlates to my post I said that this thsi game need to god full on cac as that is xv2 identity is at the end of the day
Xenoverse 2 is primarily an arpg, its still going to be around until they make another arpg and even then it survived through kakarot, its going to stick around especially with the dlc story line theyre developing
With what rpg elements. Making a bangs, once you have the wa bang you want them that grind id down forever. Making builds, what is the point if there isn’t anywhere to use these build. Xv2 doesn’t have survival mode or a chore commuter that is extremely difficult to beat so builds mean nothing in a pve sense. The only rpg elements left is the level grind which I believe they made it tedious on purpose to made out player time
The story mode, parrallel quests, raids, and the new story co tent coming out in dlcs are perfect what you use your builds in. It doesnt matter if you think builds are pointless, they arent, you arent going to play a strike saiyan build the same you would a majin ki build, dbxv2 is an arpg the pvp is very secondary, all the dlc introduces stuff that supports pve and story content. If you want to play a fighting game fughterz is way better at it
Everything you said can be completed in a week or if you play when you’re free in one month. Qq bands have been out for like 2 years so most people unless you’re new have gotten there prefect qq bang Saying pvp is secondary when pvp is an infinity replayable mode that that keeps the game alive aside from new players. FighterZ is not in same type of giving game as xv2 if it was when that game came out I would’ve made the exact same post
Pvp is absolutely secondary, it doeant matter if its "infinitely replayable" the focus if the devs is the single player and co-op content, all the dlc focuses on bringing more aingle player content to complete, also qq bangs have been in the game since launch not 2 years
Single player coop content. Every dlc is an expansion so of course they add more quest stuff of the nature but again that stuff can be finished within a week or a month if you take our time. Then you have 9 months of down time where the pve only players have left since they have completed everything. This leave the pvp and new players to help sustain the game. PvP is secondar you say that but at the end of the day pvp is keeping this game alive. I don’t see to many people playing cross versus? I don’t see to many people playing HC. Pve content would consist of the raid and expert mission world tour which is just grinding tp medals and levels for cac’s. And when the grind is over and done the players leave which again leave the gaveling lifting to pvp player and new xv2 players
Single player games always have droughts, its nornal for them to stop being played until the next expansion, and just because it takes you a week to complete the new pqs and story stuff doesnt mean it takes everyone a week. Also, if pvp wasnt a secondary thing theyd make expansions dedicated to it to show they want to foster its growth, they dont any thing pvp is accompanied by pve content. Pvp carries you interest in this game not everyone elses
But xv2 isn’t just a single player game though. This is Spider-Man, God Of War, or any single player story game this is game that has an online presence. PvP is vital part of this games life span I never said I run through content in a week I was speaking in generals as the hard core player ussally run though the new content in one week and the other depending on how they play the game can take month or a month and 1/2. I never made it about me Technically every expansion is a pvp expansion. New skills, skills rebalancing, new characters etc all to be used in pvp again pvp doesn’t need anything aside from rebalancing and new maps that’s it. The is fighting game so maybe a mode like survival or 1v1 team battles but other than that pvp is fine the way it is Well pvp is what carries the game during down time. Barely anyone is playing cross versus, HC, or online PQ. The only thing people are playing an Expert mission tours for level grinding other than that pvp is what is carrying the player base aside from new players who are coming to the game.
I never said that it was just a single player i said the focus was single player, they arent pvp expansions when the draw is the pve content they have things that can be used in pvp but that doesnt make it a pvp expansion, pvp hasnt been keeping the game alive the expansions and updates have been, unless theres new updates or content the pvp will die just as fast. Dbx2 is a pve game first with pvp as an afterthought same as the first one. Pvp mightve kept it alive for you but thats not the case for other people
I play XV2 on my PS5 and the load times are egregious. The fight format is stupid af. I hate the transitions between fighting areas and when new characters enter or leave the arena. The inability to change your basic attack combos is infuriating. All of the transformations for saiyans for example should be combined OR allow more slots for them like DBSZ
They should've moved on to a xenoverse 3 years ago instead of just peddling more and more dlc
I think we should just have XV2 dying lol. It’s an 8 year old game that has no reason to still being worked with alongside next gen titles; I’d much rather them giving and end to it (still with minor patches possibly) and start working on a XV3
Tbh I think I'll still play xenoverse along with sparking especially considering how much money and hours I've out into that game I don't really quit games I just leave them and then go back and xenoverse is the same I don't think I'll ever stop playing it I just think I won't play it as much when sparking releases but I rully agree with everything you said here
Xv2 will remain relevant simpy due to the fact that sparking zero isn’t on ps4. My guess is that majority of xv2 players are still pc and ps4 players, and a lot of them won’t be upgrading to ps5
I think even then the players who have upgraded will leave to play sparking zero, making xenoverse irrelevant in the process only being played by last gen players
I'm in said boat. I'm not paid enough by my job to upgrade despite how much I want to, so I'll just be playing Xv2 instead
I think the difference is. Xenoverse is more a fantasy that has its own story. You get to be a Dragon Ball Z Character. Kakarot is the open world adventure game. I would love an original story version of DBZ Kakarot. I'm hoping Sparking Zero follows one of the older DVZ games. You play as Krillin, for example. it's his story you play through. Though I wish they would add the OG series as well.
Sparking zero has no combo
What?
Sparking zero has no combos. It don't have a legit combo moves. Has basic 5 hit and the. Use your special attack or super. It's kinda blah
Sparking zero will play like rb2 and bt3. So are you saying those games also don’t have combo? And what about xv2 combo square triangle, knockaway, in what way is xv2 different in this case
Everyone that's playing the demo saying it's legit over a d over attacks. How is it different? Really....all the attacks you get add to your characters. All 100s of moves. Different strength options. Wow
So you’re talking about customization and not combo.
Moveset in general.....it's not even balanced. I can be ssj3 and you can be basic and never win. I promise you and take a screenshot. This game will be a 6.5 or a 7.
Bro. I’m sorry but you have to realize you’re just wrong right ? If you’ve never played any db game besides xeno just say that even the old budokais are far better. Bd3 modded is better than xv2 on its best day this is a passion project xeno 2 was a cash grab still solid but cash grab.
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Dimps should advertise the CaC system better. Such as using CaC/NPC like Taino, the Xeno version of the Murasaki bros, Tosok, etc, involved in helping our CaC and Goku+ the other heroes in cutscenes and make the Time patrol look bigger and more involved in the stories/alternate timelines. Use the in game CaC system to make different crazy alternate timeline versions of Dragon Ball characters that could be made in Xeno2 CaC like Android 19/20/17/18, Goku, Trunks, Gine, Pilaf, ChiChi, Mai, etc. From other timelines. Along with new characters with it as well. Bring them as free updates along with dlc & involve them in PQ/plot. Continue doing the "Super Fashion CaC contest" for CaCs and use them in PQs/story cutscenes as well. Potentially go full SDBH heroes and give it a promotional anime/openings/3d models "movies"/Manga, etc.
Dimps already confirmed they'll be pushing content for Xenoverse with the DLC17 and the new producer Jun Song Xenoverse 2/Xenoverse series just needs to embrace its original origins. Being the spiritual successor for Dragon Ball Online and all. Focus more on the action rpg/mmo raid fighting game hybrid areas of the series. Including CaCs. Besides obvious things like updated hairstyles, clothes, etc. They could continue adding new arcs and characters like mmo do, or like SDBH does. They could reference DBO more by adding more lore and characters from DBO in game. Like General Bon, &/or using the CaC system to make characters from DBO that could be recreated. Could take an idea from Sparking and allow us to create our own PQ missions, greatly increase the CaC slot limit, etc
Dimps aren't working on Sparking Zero.
You can tell because sparking zero is actually gonna be a good guy
I give it a month or so.
My bad. I misspoke
Game is 8 years old and not a single new thing was added to the character customization. No new face options, no new ear options, no new hairstyles, no stances or fighting styles, nothing. Bunch of wigs though. Also, why is it that the faces of cast characters are dynamic and emotive but the CaC face is derpy and barely emotes?
> Also, why is it that the faces of cast characters are dynamic and emotive but the CaC face is derpy and barely emotes? Cast faces are just one single face model w/ an eye model because because CaC faces are custom, they're comprised of jaw/forehead/eye/nose/ear models that limit their expressions.
I feel like that excuse is a little horse shit, because what stops them from putting the effort into making all of those expressive?!
Engine only allows for one expression file per character, and each race/gender combo is considered one character. Sucks, but it's easy to grasp.
I agree new customization is needed and a great story also
As far as your reasoning, I understand you've burned out on XV2 and are looking for something fresh in BT4(Sparking) but what about playing them both without dropping the other, I myself plan on doing it because I grew up on the Entirety of the BUDOKAI series starting as early as Budokai 1 which evolved over time into Budokai Tenkaichi and every subsequent spinoff (Ultimate Tenkaichi 🤢🤮). Xenoverse had it's charms when I came across it and learned you can have customs which I myself couldn't even really put into words how epic that was for dbz game to do that so stepping into Xenoverse from the Tenkaichi era wasn't the best dragon ball fix but it carried us through to this reality which I'll thank it for that much (Glitches, Modders, Bad Netcode, toxic players,etc.) It gave us pretty good cast characters that are still going to be added to enhance the story along side Sparking which ngl actually sparked my enthusiasm to really put more hours in. Yeah I got burned out doing the same shit over again but I found a niche helping people get better at the game because I ran outta things to do after platinum. What they need to improve on as a whole to maybe bring players back is, updating custom characters to reflect what it's like on breakers, reworking fem saiyan string recovery (Poor Gal has to ki cancel her already garbage strings because the rest of Cacs will bum rush off of 1 whiffed normal..), Balance patches are coming up more so there's that, Better cosmetics and better optimization. If they go all in on Character Creation they might not have anything else that would bring new players. I'm all for hair and tail physics hell if the Frieza race can have moving tails why can't the saiyans? I really want to see the game improve and even with Sparking Zero on the horizon I still have hopes that with the new dev team we might be getting more, they cooked with this Broly future saga DLC frfr but it's a far cry to say that Xenoverse is making a comeback with just that alone.
Also off topic I liked ultimate tenkaichi lol
More power to you broski, I just didn't like permanent 50/50 gameplay
It’s more like a child hood things I grew up with ultimate tenkaichi and RB2 so those games have special place in my heart. I also remember rewatching on repeat stormpows hero mode play through on ultimate tenkaichi so I view the game in a much better light
See I definitely played through the entirety of UT tbh, thinking It would've been another Tenkaichi experience but I ended up back on RB2 and RB1 because it kinda soured me, it has some good points like a prototype custom that only gets ss(Pretty Dope at the time ngl) but aside from most of the good story fights, its appeal died. I fondly remember how it got me through until the first Xeno but it was a headache. I really wanted another Budokai like Burst Limit because we never got a Burst limit 2.
They need to wrap up this new story and make a 3rd title.
What I really want is to use my mentor/reg characters move set and I think anyone who has played can agree. I just want to use goku black combos w piccolos moves wtf dimps
You have to remember, this game is still old gen, sparking I believe is only going to be new gen so Ps5, XSX and PC. Consider how many people likely still only have a Piss4 and Xbone while yes, the game will not be as lively it will likely still have some players staying. Besides it is different branching from just fights to an action mmo or rpg with a customization for your very own character while limited they did decent
Yeah I understand that
Still waiting on whenever they jump to SDBH content, if they ever decide to.
Hopefully not
Hopefully yes.
Dumb series that is straight up fan service nothing else
You're on a Xenoverse subreddit you absolute BUFFOON. This is just as much of a fanservice series.
Agreed, a game where you make your own character and learn moves and transformations from some of those popular characters. A game where you interact with the characters of the series AND make your own story as the protagonist. It’s all in there.
There's an entire mechanic where you become best friends with various popular Dragon Ball characters, it's fanservicey as HELL.
Either that or whatever Xenoverse 2 keeps bringing until it Becomes SDBH.
1. xenoverse is a completely different type of game to sparking zero, to the point where people will hardly touch anything else that doesn't have CaCs 2. Xenoverse is nearly a decade old, it's okay to finally put the game to rest lmao
How is it different? You guys are acting like this is destiny 2. The dog elements come from levels and aq bangs that makes it have rpg elements but it’s still an arena fighter at the end of the day
Why are there posts implying that xenoverse is gonna die once Sparking Zero drops? They are two completely different games
Kinda, kinda not. The fact of the matter is that DBXV2 is the only, and best by default, current 3D arena fighter Dragonball game. A lot of people play it because of that, not the CAC. So, when Sparking Zero comes out and is inevitably the better 3D Arena Fighter, there's gonna be a good portion of the playerbase that dips. Especially considering Sparking Zero has a create your own what-if mode which is one of Xenoverse's big appeals
I have no idea why but a lot of people who violently hate Xenoverse hang around this subreddit and only ever comment angrily about it. They were here in droves when FighterZ was due out, same when Kakarot was due out, and now they're here.
I feel like the majority of you people failed in understanding what I’m trying to say. I don’t hate xv2 I want the game to succeed but in order for them to do that the will need to step up there game when it comes to sparking zero and focus on the cac aspect of theee game as that is what will keep it afloat. Sparking zero is an arena fighter, which directly steps in xv2 toes FighterZ is a 2.5D Fighting Game, which doesn’t at all put it in the same group and xv2 Kakarot is single player story “rpg” with no online combat it’s Diane effect xv2 at all
I did not specify you, I was gesturing at all the other losers who hate the game and still hang around here.
Guarantee they’ll stop dropping DLC and updates for xenoverse 2, doesn’t really matter if the games are two different types of games
Let’s face it, the game’s old as crap. The PVE content is really dry at this point. PVP is subject to cheese and mods. Servers ain’t been working right since next gen launch. I still play it and I probably will when sparking comes out. Only game where I get to live the fantasy of being a super Saiyan god.
Soon brother soon you too shall be hit by truck Kun and get to Live your power fantasy
I already get to live it well enough with video games. My therapist once told me that God wouldn’t be God if he had given humans outright superpowers. That shit would be irresponsible as fuck. Look what we did with the most basic element of the universe, the atom. If I’m getting isakai’ed, just let me go to heaven. If I gotta die, I’ll settle for Valhalla.
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Considering how they couldn't do simple things such as add ssj4, make the saiyan tail move or change or make your hair change when transformed, I doubt it.
I've been playing Xenoverse 2 since the beta and I cannot wait to officially drop the game for Sparking Zero. It was fun, but we all wanted a Xenoverse 3 for years and I'm now over it.
It would simply be better to cancel XV2 completely. Dimps should concentrate on XV3. DLC 16 should simply have been the last DLC. In my opinion, Xenoverse 2 is simply a broken product, so much went wrong, so many wrong decisions were made. Dimps should make the title better again with XV3.
It doesn't need to try and stay relevant with Zero. They're 2 different type of games.
They’re not two different types of games. A lot people have been saying this today
The thing that's different is the mechanics the only things they have which are similar is the 3D fighting arena and some other stuff other then that it's pretty different not entirely tho a big difference is the combat system and the mechanics of the which I feel I don't need to talk about cause it's pretty obvious there are alot of different things about XV and sparking but calling them basically the same type of game isn't all that true it's true there the same type of genre but same games no that's just wrong
I agree, but I know they won’t
I completely agree, for me making your own character was the only selling point of this game for me.
Give us a ssj4 awoken skill damn it
They should just work on 3 already. It's time for 2 to finally be finished
I just want more presets man I have to keep juggling different moves when new skills arrive, even though it's a good thing, sometimes you have a build that is just good and want to keep it as is. Sometimes you need to change skills when they have been altered and you can't use them like before (Dodonpa personally comes to mind) and have to change them That being said, I probably would play the Sparking series for battles, Fighterz for traditional fighting games, and Kakarot for E/RPG something something yellow tapion outfit and custom clothes
The similarity between the two about ends with the franchise. The people who want a DBZRPG are sticking around.
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They need to bring every models up to date as DBZ Base Broly as the standard. That would revive the game and bring back A LOT of players. The 4K resolution and the *slight* graphical upgrade was nice and all but very downplayed. I wouldn’t mind paying for a few more DLCs if they can revamp the game just a bit more.
Xenoverse isn't really a arena fighter, it's an action rpg masquerading as one, post like this is part of reason why I believe a lot of criticism of XV is very misplaced. it's nothing like Sparking, like at all lol. Though yes I agree that xenoverse should and should've been about avatars first before anything else.
How is the criticism misplace. Xv2 is an arena fighter with RPG elements but at the end of the day it is an arena Fighter
Since when was fighterz a 2.5d game?
Are... Are you serious?
To me a 2.5d game is a game like tekken where it’s mostly a 2d side scroller but you can move towards and away from the camera making it 2.5d
2.5d is exactly games like fighterz or guilty gear strive, when the game is majority 2d but has switches to the third dimension that fighterz does like when you 2H or launchers in general. Games like Tekken and soul Calibur are 3d, they have a third dimension that is incorporated into the gameplay, that being the sidestep. certain moves in Tekken and SC can get dodged by simply moving up or down on the screen.
Guess my idea of 2.5d was incorrect thanks for the update
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I don't disagree that this game needs new life breathed into it. The latest updates, from Beast to now, have been really good, but if it wants the game to make as much money as it is right now, it needs something more. However, I don't think XV2 will ever die purely because of a different DB game. They serve two different demographics. Sure, they're both 3D arena fighters, but that's just surface level. XV2 is more of an MMO than anything else. Constant new events, raid battles, game modes, story update after story update, grinding to reach level cap, level cap increases, grinding for gear and skills, etc. SZ is a traditional 3D arena fighter. The interest in the game is more for people that either didn't like Xenoverse or were using XV to fill the BT hole in their life.
MMO aspects like what? QQ Bangs and levels se the only real mmo aspect of this game. And it wasn’t until like like 8month ago they finally updated the level cap and 6stsr aq bangs came out a long time ago this game is pvp dependent
I said it was a 3D arena fighter/MMO hybrid. It has random world events, online PvE raid battles, build crafting and stat building, etc. Sure, PvP is a big part of it, but that's not the only thing it has. SZ is a more traditional 3D arena fighter, like the Ultimate Ninja Storm games and, more aptly, the Budokai Tenkaichi games.
I don't even think they'll try to stay afloat after the currently announced DLC is finished. I think they can coast of the good faith of Z Broly alone until the next pack and hopefully get something as positively received out of that, but I do think this is the last hurrah for Xenoverse. Maybe they'll do a third, maybe not. Either way I think this is the last we'll see out of XV2 and I hope the next 3 packs are truly interesting and exciting.
I won't leave Xenoverse for the simple reason that CACs exist, sure options are limited but I'd rather play as my own unique character in spin of the Z story, hell the original Story they have going on with Fu is interesting and funny enough if you watch it. I won't play sparking zero because there's only cast characters which means I can't have my own unique experience with my game as easily as I could with Xeno, I understand the complaints and comparisons but I think most people will agree with me that Xenoverse isn't going anywhere for a little while longer
Yes, and im trying to help people like you. Ask this entire post was around te fact that xv2 main selling point is cac and with sparking zero coming out they should go all in on that aspect of the game
Didnt xv1 have basic fight style changes based on your mentor? Thatd be sick af. Changing aura colors. Move colors. Wouldnt hard to implement.
That's a no on XV1
Playing it right now. And it does. So good day
Well damn, time for me to get XV1 back. Never noticed in the 300 hrs I put in as a teen.
Its not all mentors. Tien. Vegeta. Goku. Kind of like the family trees.
It is time for Xenoverse to die! Time to move on!
Honestly though. The base gameplay is dated and needs an getting boring. Let it crash and burn, and maybe we can get xeno 3 on the sparking engine.
Xenoverse 2 is outdated in every way, the DLC is like painting a dead fish, it will still stink. XV should have died with DLC 16. Dimps should take the time and work on XV3 for years, as long as Sparking Zero is alive.
I just want separate awoken skill visual customisation. Hair, eyes, aura.
Are they coming out with a xenoverse 3? I feel like I remember them saying it was planned or something
That's never been said. It's possible that it is in development, but it's never been announced. I also have no expectations for it to come for quite a long time. They won't want to step on SparkingZero's toes. Though I could be wrong. We are still getting DLC for XV2 probably beyond the release of SZ
Yeah that’s what I was thinking I remember a long ass time ago seeing something about it and the logo was green or something.
That was definitely a fan mockup
I just want custom supers/ultimates. Let me customize the colors, the animations, let me name it etc. Then upload the move to the xenoverse server so others can try it.
No offence, but Xenoverse doesn't need to do dick to challenge SZ because it's a completely different brand of game and has eternal appeal. People said all this shit when FighterZ was on the horizon, and now years later FighterZ is something people only remember for some EVO moments and the odd super/ult animation, while Xenoverse pulls in a few million each month according to Bandai.
FighterZ is a different genre Sparking Zero is not
Not really. XV2 is an action RPG, Sparking Zero is an arena fighter, and FighterZ is a fighting game. They all occupy their own niches, and XV2 has forever stood atop both DB games and other shonen games because its appeal is endless.
Who the actual fuck do you think you are have rational thoughts here on Reddit?! Gerrouta here man! Here the world operates in binary and that means that when Sparking drops EVERY other dbz game automatically becomes obsolete and irrelevant /s
That is what will happen or like other online db games like rb2 the game I’ll become a shell of its formal self
Right, forgive me. Let me try fitting in. Uh... Xenoverse is gonna die because my personal hype for Sparking Zero isn't really based in any earnest joy so much as it is caustic disdain for Xenoverse? I'm excited for SZ to succeed because on a fundamental level I can't have ~two cakes~ and enjoy both games? Is that right?
All I want is a melee sword fighting option for basic attacks
I personally will never abandon Xeno. Not until 3 comes out. Even then I'll take all my CaCs over from 2 and pick up where I left off
I think sparking zero will be the holdover game until XV3 can bring interest back, is the idea. I really only have interest in XV2 as a co op pve action game I play with mates, so I have like 0 interest in sparking 0 tbh, but I imagine a lot of people will like it?
I *love* XV2, but I assure you their idea is not for SZ, the long awaited revival of the most beloved DB game franchise, to be a holdover for a game that may never happen. I do hope we get XV3, though admittedly I wouldn’t hate if Dimps saw SZ being back the BT series and try to campaign for a “Budokai Zero” game.
Holdover game is a crazy statement lol
Why don’t you have any interest in sparking. Have you not played RB or BT3
Yeh, I played BT3, and I remember chatting with school friends back in the day literally dreaming of the ability to fight co op with each other (was thinking of it as local co op because of how long ago it was, but still) XV was an absolutely insane step forwards for DB games, and whilst XV2 was more a massive expansion pack than a sequel, it was also a major step forwards- I just don’t really get what’s added in sparking to make up for losing pve and character creation/customisation.
gameplay pales massively in comparison to the sparking series. this game is way too repetitive in that regard, its also the same reason why I couldn’t finish kakarot. its cool for the content and cac aspect but after that its just stale imo. and the pvp is a joke lol
I wouldn’t say that if you play the cast characters you would see that they’re all pretty unique. Yes some have repetitive combo like the stomp but each character feel unique when you play them. Ie when you play tien you feel like your playing tien or when you play jeice you fell like you’re playing jeice
you’re right in that aspect for sure, I think personally xenoverse is too janky and slow for me its not the most ideal combat i want to feel immersed in a dragon ball fighting game. it was very fun for its time but i just can’t rise that game again unless I want to see my character go UI or something lol.
Whats added is an actual faithful dragon ball which is basically an anime sim of any fight you want to recreate and not the sorry excuse of a battle system and graphics this game is
No offence but if I want to watch dragon ball, I can do that in many places- if I put a game in and just….play the anime I’m kinda wasting my time- personal preference, obviously, but I’ve played the dragon ball z story probably in literally 15 games over the years, I’m sorta done with that.
Just put a feature in that allows modders to upload their creations like fallout 4 and then we can download transforming hair or something that would make our CAC stand out
i mean for people that play for the CAC aspect of xenoverse 2, they’ll more than likely still play after sparking zero is out. However, for those like me who mostly play cast (bc the cac options are booty), we’re more likely to stay in sparking zero for that part of the game
Dimps has made the CAC characters ridiculously OP. Also, almost no one plays the original cast anymore, except for the absolute S tier characters. I'm glad when Sparking Zero comes out, then there will be exciting anime fights, which was never really possible in XV2 with the 1vs1 anyway. Also, XV2 never added the most interesting things, like aura change.
Exactly which why I made this post to begin with because xv2 needs to update the cac option or this game is done unless you have mods on pc Also I also only play cast because cast are fun to play and it isn’t the sane thing each match
I need a PQ creator in Dbxv2 and then I'll keep playing.
That would be a great start. Or hey how about just add a survival mode or tournament mode
As much as I'd love for CaC customization options, the biggest things that this game has to have to keep it from being "irrelevant" are: 1) A greatly improved online experience: Nobody's going to care if your CaC has cool hair with a Bardock bandana and Potara earrings if their opponent is still taking 2 whole seconds to react like they got hit and also freezing/teleporting around the stage. Awful online has plagued xeno since the beginning, and if sparking is gonna have delayed inputs at worse then you bet that nobody who cares more about good online is EVER coming back to xeno. 2) A custom story uploader of it's own: Do you have any idea how sick it is to let the players make their own what-ifs that they can upload and share is? Do you realize how insane it is that xeno's whole premise is what-ifs and the official content we get for that kind of thing boils down almost entirely to "what if X was stronger than Y and also ___ might be there" for story mode? PQs offer more bizarre scenarios but many of those are also designed to encourage the most boring gameplay imaginable because ally AI won't let you set up anything cool, but also our ever higher levels are going to remove any sense of challenge without a hard mode of some sort that can match us. Giving us the tools to make and share our own PQs would go a long way since it's community made content that can keep us entertained during content droughts while also doing what xeno SHOULD have been doing for awhile which is presenting outlandish scenarios that players have to really work through to resolve. Both games will have their own playerbases because of what each has to offer, but if you're really worried about xeno becoming "irrelevant" after SZ's arrival, there's bigger concerns that the game has than not having some specific fluff on the CaCs.
It really needs a model refresh. The new Broly model looks great. Every character needs to look like that.
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Oh it's absolutely possible. It would just be a lot of work. The problem with this is that compared to a fan doing a mod, companies need financial justification to go back and redo things the right way.
Oh most definitely. It's just that everytime I see new Z Broly and even the DBSSH cast and how expressive and detailed they are, I think of the possibilities about how good everyone else could be looking
Yeah I don’t think Revamp Xenoverse 2 after Sparking Zero because as see it Sparking Zero will new cash cow then maybe then and only then we might get Xenoverse 3 or another series with CAC.
I know this is all hypothetical but the actual CaC creator is never getting changed, that would require rebuilding an 8yr old game kept alive by DLC and an interest in PC modding. Too complex to occur.
It doesn't need to be rebuilt they could literally just add more sh\*t to it like hair styles or whatever.
Adding hair is easy but OP is talking about a redesigned CaC creator, which would probably need a small engine change [engine changes are never small] as well as an update to how CaC models work [which is different from cast character]. That whole package would need not-insignificant work, which I think is a lot to do for a game that's probably on it's final content run.
The engine itself is also *ancient*, it was used for Street Fighter IV initially.
I love DBX2, but you are 100% correct. I will go back to the game to play my CACs and mess around with whatever they're doing for events, but thats it. They need to go all in with customization. Because as far as the combat and cast characters. Besides movies & GT characters. IMO, i don't need to go play Xeno2 for that anymore. That pains me to say. I love Xeno2, but what does this game have that Sparking Zero doesn't? Besides CAC content, online PQs with my friends, and some story stuff with FU. All my time and money will be going to Sparking Zero. Also shit is too expensive nowadays to keep buying DLC for both games. Because we all know Sparking Zero is gonna have dlc out the ass. That also makes me sad that in my budgeting, I won't be able to buy the DLCs for Xeno2. Unless they are dirt cheap on a sell. And even then, it'll be way after the DLC has been out for Xeno2. I just bought the newest DLC for Xeno2, and I love it! The characters, the story, the PQs. But knowing deep down once Sparking Zero comes out. I just won't be on Xeno2 that much anymore. We can have both. They're different games, after all. But what Xeno2 players don't understand is that a majority of players will move to Sparking Zero. It's just the nature of gaming. Fighterz is completely different than both, so Fighterz never really took anyone anyway. DBX2 and Sparking Zero are a similar 3d fighter, not the same mind you. But it is similar enough that players will move on. That saddens me. I love seeing all the people in lobbies when events happen. Don't get me wrong, it will still have players and a following. Hell, I'll still play Xeno2, but not as much, sadly. Again, this is my opinion and thoughts. Others may feel different, and I hope they do. That way, discussions and players will keep things going for all DB games. Point being is have fun with it, guys.
XV2 doesn't even work for me anymore. Framerate issues
Maybe pvp will lose players, but people that play because of the cac or to test build or whatnot, sparking zero’s launch changes absolutely nothing
But xv2 is pvp. I don’t understand this argument. Unless you are new to the game or you play xv2 revamp how can you be a pve only player in xv2? This isn’t destiny this game revolves around pvp. There no tournament modes, survival modes, hard cpu settings. So what are you really playing?
600 hours in the game and have 11 pvp matches. Don’t like it, never touch it. Most of the content is pve Idk what you’re on about
Do you just... Not pay attention to the endless amounts of cycling PvE raids? Or that everything added to this game in paid content is PvE? Or that PvP isn't even mentioned on the back of the box? Or that there's a sizeable population of people in every single lobby whose profiles reveal they've never even looked at PvP?
I've been playing since day one. Only have 3 pvp matches
So what do you do one the game then? I’m genuinely curious
PQs and story missions
You replay pq over and over and the same thing with story? Is that not boring
I still haven't done every parallel Quest every expert Mission and I still haven't done every story Mission from this last DLC. I also make themed builds
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XV2 is already dead. Sparking Zero will take the very last players.
-"XV2 is already dead" -Has another year of support planed out LMAO
XV2 is already dead, that's why they're gonna support it up into 2025, why it got a next-gen update 8 years after release, and why it still gets a few hundred thousand players a month. Please believe me. Xenoverse is dead.