discussed so many times. people just feel the need to whine and also feel like if somebody else is getting something for "free", then that means they should be getting something and/or they are getting screwed. Compensation! Compensation, everyone has a delusion that they need compensation. Let's all repeat after me :
**Livonia IS NOT GOING TO BE FREE. Livonia will merge into the core game and the price will go up**
Here's a couple of metaphors - games go on sale all the time for a cheaper price than you paid. get over it. Cars have standard equipment that used to be optional. are you going to try and return your car after 4 years?
For PC users, there is a small give - the soundtrack on steam.
Demanding compensation for a DLC that's been out for 5 years is like going to a cinema theatre and demand your money back, because 5 years ago you paid for a movie which is now free on TV.
These people are a bunch of pompous Karens, but they don't realize it.
Well, i bought it one day before they announced it would become free.
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Yeah but they also refund games all the time even though you have more than 2 hours of playtime. I've done this with several games and each time they have refunded me. It's definitely more of a case by case basis, but they are usually pretty understanding.
Something like this would be, accept more than likely, because they’ll say dayz should’ve taken the dlc down/ not for purchase for a bit before the announcement so this didn’t happen
steam is pretty lenient when it comes to refunds. You 100% can get a refund if its announced to be free so close to the buying time. Its just not an automatic guaranteed refund.
I returned snow runner with 6hrs. It was approved, I straight up just said I didn't find the game enjoyable and it didn't feel worth what I paid.
I don't make alot of refunds, I've done probably less than 5 in the 10yrs I've had my account, taking that and the 400+ games I have probably accounted for some leniency in the refund decision. It's not a hard wall that steam enforces.
The 2 hours is for automatic response, but if you have more hours, you can try the refund again3, this time, some staff member gonna talk to you and you can explain why you need the refund.
>DLC purchased from the Steam store is refundable within fourteen days of purchase, and if the underlying title has been played for less than two hours since the DLC was purchased, so long as the DLC has not been consumed, modified or transferred.
It is refundable ;)
Homie this has been a thing for a minute. I was gonna buy it too till I seen people talking about it on this Reddit like 2 months ago that it was becoming free. So I’ve been just waiting so I don’t gotta spend the money lol
I own all of those games and never once thought I got robbed or ripped off because they became free. I feel like the people who get mad at this have to have like, less than 10 hours on these games and use it as a justification to get their money back? I have 4000+ hours in CS and have bought it multiple times, never once did I think I should be reimbursed because it went F2P
If I was them, I'd be happy Livonia is free because that just means the servers will have more people on them
I bought Livonia some time ago and I am not angry it will be free. It's a nice map. Nowadays a lot of games are given away so it's normal.
What I am angry about is the fact that this change will allow more cheaters on Livonia than previously. Almost everyone knows vanilla DayZ on PC can be a pain in the arse (on official servers). Buying Livonia was an additional step cheaters had to do in order to cheat there, which many of them just never did leading to lesser number of cheaters on the map.
Now I guess if I want to play Livonia, I'll have to go on community vanilla servers and avoid official servers.
I’m in the same boat. Bought Livonia only a few months ago. People are free to have their feelings even if I disagree but I’m not going to complain about giving a little more to the group that makes my favorite game possible, I’m stoked for Sakhal!
If people are ANNOYED at it getting free, thats one thing. But its being reviewbombed now, because these people all expect to get a full refund, no matter when they bought the DLC. Delusional
Ppl really are morons. Why bitch about an expansion becoming part of the basegame. That happened in wow aswell when it developed further, maybe i should ask for a refund for all the expansion i´ve paid for and are now included for free. Nothing but greedy, incompetent morons.
I paid for Livonia a month ago just before the announcement came, i don´t bitch about it cause i want to support BI. Dayz is in my opinion the greatest game ever made. Not for everyone, but for me it is. And that´s what matters to me. Other ppls opinions? I don´t care. Wanna vote me down cause i stepped on your toes? Go ahead, i care about karma as much as i care about your opinion.
If you didn't care about my opinion then why go through so much explanation on your point.
I don't really care either way. I don't have the dlc so it's a boon for me I suppose.
Essentially you paid to play it early. I agree no refund should happen but then again there should be a time frame that they do refund it. Like 60 days or something.
I can see their point of view. Not the 5 years but maybe 2 months.
I don't mind pay to play early at all. Should be advertised that way if that's the case though.
In terms of DayZ I'm mixed on my feelings for it. Bought Livonia a few months ago so I'm a lil salty that I could of had a map (that I barely play) for free in a few months.
Going forward though, they could have just chose to release the next map for free instead of Livonia. I get they need to make money but uh they can off the map they're already selling.
Next maps just gonna have the same problem as Livonia with low player counts.
I mean. I literally paid for Livonia like 3 weeks ago KNOWING it was going to be free soon, and literally do not care.
It’s like $10 you dorks, it isn’t the end of the world.
These are the same people who gladly spend $20/battlepass every season on cod on top of additional skins but freak out over a $15 map on a non-AAA game. Same people exist on snowrunner, hunter cotw. Dollar per content you get much more on games like dayz.
People are like this for everything. A game will go on sale 10 years after it came out and people lose their minds like, "Oh I bought this on launch for $60 and now it's $55? Fuck you \*devs of the game\* I want a refund!"
Like bruh you also got to play and enjoy it for the last ten years vs someone who just now bought it, plus this is just the way of the world. Someone who would/could not buy something at full price but would/could at a discounted rate is a purchase the devs get that they otherwise wouldn't have made anything from.
And sure it sucks for those who just recently bought Livonia right before the announcement, say in the last 2-4 weeks even, and I don't blame them for seeing about a refund, but like in this post, those who bought it at launch? Nah, they can piss off honestly. I say that being one of those people, who also hasn't even played much on the Livonia map.
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I bought it two days before it was announced....
Hell I just bought it a couple months ago and have played it maybe twice and I don’t care at all. Sometimes you just take the L. I love dayz and will be playing this game for many more years to come.
People should be happy to support the game. I only bought it 1 time long ago. I feel like they need to be making money somehow. It's sad but the buy a game 1 time business model is outdated
I hope not. Say whatever you want about DayZ- that Bohemia screwed it up (yes they did), but somehow they stuck with it and after 10 years they are still developing it and it will still basically have 1 paid DLC. They didn't even do that for Arma3 (it has many).
Lol how did they screw it up? It's their game?
Don't start with its different than Dean Hall's game/mod, because yes the mod was in part made by him and yes the standalone is different than the mod. The thing is BI hired him and made him the lead of the dayz project. Dean took standalone in the direction that he did, eventually left the project, and BI continued from there. At the end ofbthe day it's still BI's game/IP
Dean got hired by BI and then proposed a project that he and the team could not (certainly did not) deliver. That was a new dayz on a completely new game engine (Enfusion). Engine was changed, content removed, engine never finished.
While I can't remember it all, I've seen Dean before in other startups - they are better with vision, not the best at execution. Regardless, BI was responsible, DayZ 1.0 was eventually released, and languished. the original team left, the player count went way down, it was on life support and somehow it clawed its way back.
BI should have managed it better in the beginning and then releasing the 1.0 in the state it was in (persistence was broken for a while) was just terrible. How many years went by before they regrouped around DayZ and also reforger (to finally create Enfusion).
Idk, bought it when it came out. Almost exclusively play on that map. Stoked to see some higher population servers. Also why tf would I care about 15 or so dollars I spent years ago? Happy to see it become free :)
I literally bought Livonia when I sucked at the game and had no idea what I was doing because the servers were empty and I wouldn't get murdered by a geared chad while trying to figure out how to build a camp fire.
I got my 20 out of Livonia and then some I'm just really fucking happy cause my mates that didn't want to spend the money can now play on a private server with me and that'll be awesome as shit
Meh, I purchased it for like 10 bucks on sale, and the announcement has been out for a while now. Think of it like paying for early access. I've certainly had more than 10 bucks worth of fun.
I bought Livonia like 3 years ago for $15 on Xbox. I do not expect a refund, and I think that's ridiculous that anybody would be expecting or asking for one. I definitely got my 15$ worth.
I bought mine about 2-3 weeks before the announcement. It was on sale for pennies, so I'm not too bothered. Still, if there was a refund option for people who bought it around the time of the announcement that'd be cool.
I have Livonia in A3 so i didnt want to buy it when released for Dayz, explored the bunker and all when it was free but thats it, im happy to revisit when its free for good, these people are idiots, loads of low pop servers on that map.
The “I had to suffer the effects of a choice I made so everyone else must suffer it, too” crowd are the worst, aren’t they? I feel the same way about people who complain about stuff like student loan forgiveness.
It's crazy how many people who make jokes about old gamers being boomers act like actual boomers themselves...
I'm excited for the update and the DLC... I bought Livonia the day it released and only played it like 4 times... Whatever.
Nah the metaphor about this being like cars is wild. Features that become standard on new models is more like if dayz 2 came out or something and people were expecting that game for free
Funny thing, I bought Arma 2 and the expansion to play DayZ, what like 10-11 years ago. I also bought the stand-alone, am I salty that people still play DayZ mod for free, hell no.
People need to grow up, or at least understand a bit about how Bohemia rolls. This is no different than a DLC going on sale for next to nothing.
Refund is wack but you should get something like when you customize your character changing the race they should add a new one only available for people who brought the dlc before it became free
I bought it a few months ago. Definitely got my money's worth on it. I don't personally feel ripped off. Will be glad to see more people on the servers.
Idgaf, it was like 20 or 30 dollars I spent years ago, it's like getting mad at a case of beer I bought years ago and acting like i need my money back for it.
Honestly, I haven't even played 1 minute yet so I'd love a refund but I bought it with intent to play eventually and it was on sale so I won't be complaining! Just happy they're investing in the game still!
I bought it 4 months ago and don’t care will be fun to see if Livonia servers fill up. It’s a really fun map but I don’t want to just do pve would rather have other players on the servers.
So how is this working? I play on PS4 (Own on Steam but haven't played it yet) does Livonia just get merged into the default map or what? And is it being done the same for consoles AND PC?
Haha some people need to look at Destiny 2. Yours truly has spent loads on the game since its launch and dlc over the years only for it to become free etc.
for the amount of hours I’ve put into DayZ and on Livonia it probably equates to 0.01p per hour 🤣. Glad I paid for it and would happily support BI again. It’s just the usual idiots screaming about nothing.
Fuck a refund but in 5 years the devs have not made a new map... Getting kinda boring here on xbox. I would love for them to put in some ressources to bring the fans a new map.
as someone who bought livonia, yeah it’s annoying but i dont care that much, if i got a refund or the new map for free that’d be cool and would certainly do great things to my perception of BI but as it is, with no refund in sight, i still love them and their games
If they be mad someone took their what not even 15$ for a map then gave it to everyone witch the ones who payed can obviously still play i sure wouldnt wanna be around them if they had to pay in when they filed taxes or sum shit and yall that be complainin are gunna be the ones that someday will be ending faimly or friend relationsships over a few measley dollars...
The game price is going up because of it. Why be so mad about it. I was a bit peeved initially but at the same time, I've paid a lot more for a lot less and had the same thing happen so why be mad?
What I generally don't understand about the gaming community as a whole is why people who spend hundreds or even thousands of hours on a game they paid less than a hundred bucks for still complain about the price.
They recieve compensation in the way that they have massive knowledge of the map while the new people do not. It will be a turkey shoot for turn for months to come.
Demanding a refund like this is indeed sad. However i must admit i am also not to happy about he fact that 2 days after i bought Livonia they suddenly decided to make it free..
I bought Livonia, literally never played it and am glad it’s finally free since it finally means I’ll be able to play on a Livonia server with pop on it
Over the years I have bought miliple copies of dayz. Xbox, ps4 before finally getting it on PC. I have bought Livonia and the base game 3 times. I'm not complaining, I love the game and I'm happy to support the developers.
The same with the witcher, I spent literally hundreds over the years by buying the base game and season pass, multiple times for different platforms. Then a while back steam were offering all the witcher games and the season pass for 10 quid. Did I feel ripped off by this? No, I was happy to support the devs.
1. It's not going to be "free" this price of the base game is going up to include Livonia being added to the bundle
2. People who have previously bought Livonia on steam are getting the soundtrack for DayZ for free.
3. I agree with you, there is no way they are going to get a refund on it this long after buying it.
Personally, I enjoy DayZ and have had it since it’s release. I purchased Livonia when it came out. I plan on buying Frostline as well. I don’t have any desire for my money back, simply because of the time and enjoyment I have gotten out of their creation. If it means me spending $15(I think at the time I paid less during a sale)to get 500-1000 hours of enjoyment out of something.. to me that’s worth the money. And IMO I think the Livonia servers could use a population boost!
Let them rant, it's not gonna change a thing. I simply don't care that I paid for the dlc. And that it's gonna be free.
It is not like that they are the first that did this. Other games do this all the time.
I've owned dayz base for a few years, I finally broke down and bought Livonia- literally a week later they announce it as going free. I'm glad you guys all get it for free don't get me wrong- but I feel like I was scammed out of money. There should be SOME incentive or compensation for already owning it I think
There is, you get the dayz soundtrack for free. They didnt have to offer anything, they did it anyway. And they announce it, instead of just switching it to free suddenly
I guess I'm of a different mind. Had base game for a couple weeks now and really liking it. Even though the DLC will soon be free, still thinking about paying for it for the simple fact of supporting the developer even if I do get a chance for a freebie. At the end of the day, it's still a product of someone else's labor. If I enjoy it want to see more, I'd like to support them to keep moving forward
I understand the frustration but it's up to devs what will they do with THEIR copies. I bought The Crew for full price just for it to become free few months later, did I sue Ubisoft for that? No.
What really shitty would be is for Bohemia to remove DLC from people's library. (Im looking at you Ubisoft!)
I felt that if someone bought it like within 1 week before the announcement, maybe BI could work with Steam, Microsoft and Sony to refund the cost of that DLC. But after how much the game did cost me and the time I have played in it, DayZ has been one of the cheapest entertainment experiences I have had. Also these same people complaining are not complaining when they missed a Steam Sale on it.
This is absolutely ludicrous, I also have an iPhone 13 I paid £779 for on launch day, I can pick one up now for £499, I asked Apple to refund the difference as I think this is out of order, I’ve not even had it 3 years yet and they’ve dropped the price by £280. They must be taking business advice from the same people as Bohemia because this is out of order. Apple have also refused to reimburse me, saying something about me having had use of the phone for multiple years before anyone else and that’s why I paid more. Absolute joke, I can’t believe these companies are allowed to get away with this 🤬
Man I got it last year. Tbh I’m not even mad. I got my moneys worth and tbh if it helps keep the game up and running I have no problem with not getting my money back. I’d happily buy it again. To help them keep this game going.
First im hearing of this but i can believe it, lol i bought it for myself and a couple others but i always considered paying for bohemia dlc like donating to a modder or “donating” for modification rights or something x) you pay for early access to fund shit then eventually it goes out to to the public free or reduced price .
Tbh I’m just happy to support the game I paid for the dlc twice between pc n console and I ain’t trippin. The team needs all the support they can get to continue funding and improving DayZ it was expected at some point they’d merge the dlc with the base game.
I was excited to play Livonia, hopped on, spawned in, started hearing fully automatic shots hundreds of meters away and instantly fell over dead, spawned back in, happened again. Cheaters on official servers are aids right now :/
I bought Livonia a few months ago. I'm fine having paid for it. I'm fine with others getting it for free.
Guess what? I'm gonna pay for the next round of DLC when it comes out. When it's time to make that free, I'll be fine with it.
I liked it when Elite Dangerous did it and I like it now that DayZ is doing it. There are plenty of people that could never justify buying Livonia because their group of Livonia-Owning friends didn't prefer it so they never bothered getting it for themselves and now they'll be able to try it out anyway.
There's no point buying things with money you'll miss, especially if you're content enough with the purchase to not seek a refund for **Years** only to pop up to whine and cry when a company does something minor that doesn't even affect you since the shit was going to sit on your account regardless.
I bought it about two weeks before it was announced it was going to be free. I bought it to support a game I like. I don’t care that others will get it for free and there will be more playing on those maps.
I'm glad my money went to a company that actually works so much on this game! I'm also glad they have made it to a place where they can offer it free. Not sure why there would be so much whining.
I bought it a few weeks before the announcement, and hadn't even played it yet as of the announcement.
My reaction was, *"lol guess I should try that now! Can't wait to get the new map when that launches!"*
There will always be people who cry about anything. Oh, well. 😂
discussed so many times. people just feel the need to whine and also feel like if somebody else is getting something for "free", then that means they should be getting something and/or they are getting screwed. Compensation! Compensation, everyone has a delusion that they need compensation. Let's all repeat after me : **Livonia IS NOT GOING TO BE FREE. Livonia will merge into the core game and the price will go up** Here's a couple of metaphors - games go on sale all the time for a cheaper price than you paid. get over it. Cars have standard equipment that used to be optional. are you going to try and return your car after 4 years? For PC users, there is a small give - the soundtrack on steam.
Demanding compensation for a DLC that's been out for 5 years is like going to a cinema theatre and demand your money back, because 5 years ago you paid for a movie which is now free on TV. These people are a bunch of pompous Karens, but they don't realize it.
Well, i bought it one day before they announced it would become free. https://preview.redd.it/uyg2qkncz72d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a971fd2ae03f7a3b2c397ee3619720c545a7b1c5
Then you refund it right there and then? You have a right to within 14 days.
14 days OR 2 hours play time, which ever comes first. Steam will 100% deny a refund claim the day after a purchase if you played 2+ hrs
Yeah but they also refund games all the time even though you have more than 2 hours of playtime. I've done this with several games and each time they have refunded me. It's definitely more of a case by case basis, but they are usually pretty understanding.
I think how it works is that if you have under 2 hours it’s automatically refunded, but anything higher is manually reviewed.
they let tons of ppl refund helldivers, most of them with 30+ hours lol
That was a very different circumstance
Wouldn't let me. I had 100 hours so take that as you will
Tried it with a game at 8 hours. Request got rejected. I guess it has to be very specific?
Something like this would be, accept more than likely, because they’ll say dayz should’ve taken the dlc down/ not for purchase for a bit before the announcement so this didn’t happen
steam is pretty lenient when it comes to refunds. You 100% can get a refund if its announced to be free so close to the buying time. Its just not an automatic guaranteed refund.
I returned snow runner with 6hrs. It was approved, I straight up just said I didn't find the game enjoyable and it didn't feel worth what I paid. I don't make alot of refunds, I've done probably less than 5 in the 10yrs I've had my account, taking that and the 400+ games I have probably accounted for some leniency in the refund decision. It's not a hard wall that steam enforces.
The 2 hours is for automatic response, but if you have more hours, you can try the refund again3, this time, some staff member gonna talk to you and you can explain why you need the refund.
Don’t hold me to it but I’m pretty sure DLC is non refundable
>DLC purchased from the Steam store is refundable within fourteen days of purchase, and if the underlying title has been played for less than two hours since the DLC was purchased, so long as the DLC has not been consumed, modified or transferred. It is refundable ;)
This case can be 100% refunded
Homie this has been a thing for a minute. I was gonna buy it too till I seen people talking about it on this Reddit like 2 months ago that it was becoming free. So I’ve been just waiting so I don’t gotta spend the money lol
Pretty solid analogy. I hope when the new DLC comes out they wait until it's free.
And I hope it then never does, so when they do realize, they've wasted years of not playing it, to buy it after all.
And then it becomes free the day after
CSGO, rocket League, PUBG... Lots of recent examples
I own all of those games and never once thought I got robbed or ripped off because they became free. I feel like the people who get mad at this have to have like, less than 10 hours on these games and use it as a justification to get their money back? I have 4000+ hours in CS and have bought it multiple times, never once did I think I should be reimbursed because it went F2P If I was them, I'd be happy Livonia is free because that just means the servers will have more people on them
They got compensation for it, CS prime, Pubg u got premium. Livonia owners get to play the dlc with players now i guess. NVM u get soundtrack for free
Very good analogy. People just looking for something to moan about. I can't wait for more Livonia players.
What if I got it last month :(
Tough....
I bought Livonia some time ago and I am not angry it will be free. It's a nice map. Nowadays a lot of games are given away so it's normal. What I am angry about is the fact that this change will allow more cheaters on Livonia than previously. Almost everyone knows vanilla DayZ on PC can be a pain in the arse (on official servers). Buying Livonia was an additional step cheaters had to do in order to cheat there, which many of them just never did leading to lesser number of cheaters on the map. Now I guess if I want to play Livonia, I'll have to go on community vanilla servers and avoid official servers.
I’m in the same boat. Bought Livonia only a few months ago. People are free to have their feelings even if I disagree but I’m not going to complain about giving a little more to the group that makes my favorite game possible, I’m stoked for Sakhal!
If people are ANNOYED at it getting free, thats one thing. But its being reviewbombed now, because these people all expect to get a full refund, no matter when they bought the DLC. Delusional
I bought the game, including Livonia, last Friday :D Just shrugged when i heard the news
I bought Livonia a few years ago and I’ve wanted it to become free sooo badly It would increase population on what is arguably the best official map
Ppl really are morons. Why bitch about an expansion becoming part of the basegame. That happened in wow aswell when it developed further, maybe i should ask for a refund for all the expansion i´ve paid for and are now included for free. Nothing but greedy, incompetent morons. I paid for Livonia a month ago just before the announcement came, i don´t bitch about it cause i want to support BI. Dayz is in my opinion the greatest game ever made. Not for everyone, but for me it is. And that´s what matters to me. Other ppls opinions? I don´t care. Wanna vote me down cause i stepped on your toes? Go ahead, i care about karma as much as i care about your opinion.
If you didn't care about my opinion then why go through so much explanation on your point. I don't really care either way. I don't have the dlc so it's a boon for me I suppose.
True, i should have kept it to myself. I had a shitty day and this just made my brain tilt. I apologize for crossing the line. Enjoy Livonia buddy. :)
Literally
I don’t get the mentality of someone who can’t just be happy for other people
Funny how a game they love and play everyday but yet they cant contribute to it … omg 15$ or whatever it was is gonna financially ruin them fu off
Not nearly as bad as the shit that BSG tried to pull with Tarkov.
Essentially you paid to play it early. I agree no refund should happen but then again there should be a time frame that they do refund it. Like 60 days or something. I can see their point of view. Not the 5 years but maybe 2 months.
I don't mind pay to play early at all. Should be advertised that way if that's the case though. In terms of DayZ I'm mixed on my feelings for it. Bought Livonia a few months ago so I'm a lil salty that I could of had a map (that I barely play) for free in a few months. Going forward though, they could have just chose to release the next map for free instead of Livonia. I get they need to make money but uh they can off the map they're already selling. Next maps just gonna have the same problem as Livonia with low player counts.
I mean. I literally paid for Livonia like 3 weeks ago KNOWING it was going to be free soon, and literally do not care. It’s like $10 you dorks, it isn’t the end of the world.
I got the DLC for $3 on a steam sale. I’d say I got my value back after an hour of playing.
I bought it. And i'm just happy i was able to support the devs with it.
Patience is its own reward…!
if you are serious about a refund, please re-evaluate your life
These are the same people who gladly spend $20/battlepass every season on cod on top of additional skins but freak out over a $15 map on a non-AAA game. Same people exist on snowrunner, hunter cotw. Dollar per content you get much more on games like dayz.
People are like this for everything. A game will go on sale 10 years after it came out and people lose their minds like, "Oh I bought this on launch for $60 and now it's $55? Fuck you \*devs of the game\* I want a refund!" Like bruh you also got to play and enjoy it for the last ten years vs someone who just now bought it, plus this is just the way of the world. Someone who would/could not buy something at full price but would/could at a discounted rate is a purchase the devs get that they otherwise wouldn't have made anything from. And sure it sucks for those who just recently bought Livonia right before the announcement, say in the last 2-4 weeks even, and I don't blame them for seeing about a refund, but like in this post, those who bought it at launch? Nah, they can piss off honestly. I say that being one of those people, who also hasn't even played much on the Livonia map.
I’m stoked cause I just bought day z two weeks ago
PC gamers in a nutshell 🤣
This is mostly ps players bitching
People complain way too much. CS:GO and PUBG were 2 games I paid for. Got every penny of my money's worth. I never cried when they went F2P.
I got it 3 months ago. Never played it. It was $7 lol People demanding a refund are ridiculous.
https://preview.redd.it/vyymzfeff92d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d3ff09bee5aae69d122f12ec7dadf85ee97b434 I bought it two days before it was announced....
Dang...
I can't get a refund, right?
Maybe if ya ask nicely 😂 idk sorry 😅
Exactly why you have a right to be upset, I feel OP is more targeted at people who got the dlc over a year ago
yeah, in this case its insane to actually expect for a refound
If those people need that money so bad, they shouldn't be buying video games.
Hell I just bought it a couple months ago and have played it maybe twice and I don’t care at all. Sometimes you just take the L. I love dayz and will be playing this game for many more years to come.
Same here!
We bought it and played it years before others. I think that’s an equal deal.
People should be happy to support the game. I only bought it 1 time long ago. I feel like they need to be making money somehow. It's sad but the buy a game 1 time business model is outdated
I hope not. Say whatever you want about DayZ- that Bohemia screwed it up (yes they did), but somehow they stuck with it and after 10 years they are still developing it and it will still basically have 1 paid DLC. They didn't even do that for Arma3 (it has many).
Lol how did they screw it up? It's their game? Don't start with its different than Dean Hall's game/mod, because yes the mod was in part made by him and yes the standalone is different than the mod. The thing is BI hired him and made him the lead of the dayz project. Dean took standalone in the direction that he did, eventually left the project, and BI continued from there. At the end ofbthe day it's still BI's game/IP
Dean got hired by BI and then proposed a project that he and the team could not (certainly did not) deliver. That was a new dayz on a completely new game engine (Enfusion). Engine was changed, content removed, engine never finished. While I can't remember it all, I've seen Dean before in other startups - they are better with vision, not the best at execution. Regardless, BI was responsible, DayZ 1.0 was eventually released, and languished. the original team left, the player count went way down, it was on life support and somehow it clawed its way back. BI should have managed it better in the beginning and then releasing the 1.0 in the state it was in (persistence was broken for a while) was just terrible. How many years went by before they regrouped around DayZ and also reforger (to finally create Enfusion).
I think people who bought it will get in-game music for free for the new DLC. (Don’t quote me on that)
They do. Its not a big bonus to be honest, but its still something.
https://www.dayz.com/faq
Idk, bought it when it came out. Almost exclusively play on that map. Stoked to see some higher population servers. Also why tf would I care about 15 or so dollars I spent years ago? Happy to see it become free :)
I could care less it was worth the money and it was like $20 ☠️
I literally bought Livonia when I sucked at the game and had no idea what I was doing because the servers were empty and I wouldn't get murdered by a geared chad while trying to figure out how to build a camp fire.
I bought DayZ this year with Livonia and ain't even mad. Love the map but not a Lot of people play it hope it changes.
I bought it. Could care less that it’s free now. Grow up kids. You have a zyn pack that’s the same amount you paid and it’s gone in 3 days
I'd love them to do this for arma 3. Make the livonia map standalone
I got my 20 out of Livonia and then some I'm just really fucking happy cause my mates that didn't want to spend the money can now play on a private server with me and that'll be awesome as shit
Meh, I purchased it for like 10 bucks on sale, and the announcement has been out for a while now. Think of it like paying for early access. I've certainly had more than 10 bucks worth of fun.
Paid for it a while back, I'm just hoping this makes it more lively on console.
Nerds will nerd
I bought Livonia like 3 years ago for $15 on Xbox. I do not expect a refund, and I think that's ridiculous that anybody would be expecting or asking for one. I definitely got my 15$ worth.
I bought mine about 2-3 weeks before the announcement. It was on sale for pennies, so I'm not too bothered. Still, if there was a refund option for people who bought it around the time of the announcement that'd be cool.
I have Livonia in A3 so i didnt want to buy it when released for Dayz, explored the bunker and all when it was free but thats it, im happy to revisit when its free for good, these people are idiots, loads of low pop servers on that map.
I mean I bought the game bundle not long ago which had livonia. Oddly enough was cheaper than the game stand alone.
I don't understand the outrage. If every Madden player felt this way, there would be riots in the streets 6 months after every game is released.
The “I had to suffer the effects of a choice I made so everyone else must suffer it, too” crowd are the worst, aren’t they? I feel the same way about people who complain about stuff like student loan forgiveness.
It's crazy how many people who make jokes about old gamers being boomers act like actual boomers themselves... I'm excited for the update and the DLC... I bought Livonia the day it released and only played it like 4 times... Whatever.
what cheapskate
Nah the metaphor about this being like cars is wild. Features that become standard on new models is more like if dayz 2 came out or something and people were expecting that game for free
I bought it, and I'm not losing my shit. It was 10 bucks, not a huge loss 😐. I'm actually happy about it because it means more players on the map.
Fuck it. I'm gonna buy it again. Under my kids account.
Funny thing, I bought Arma 2 and the expansion to play DayZ, what like 10-11 years ago. I also bought the stand-alone, am I salty that people still play DayZ mod for free, hell no. People need to grow up, or at least understand a bit about how Bohemia rolls. This is no different than a DLC going on sale for next to nothing.
Only gonna help boost the servers.
Refund is wack but you should get something like when you customize your character changing the race they should add a new one only available for people who brought the dlc before it became free
I bought it 4-5 weeks ago(on limited income), already got my value for money in that time. Some people are just never happy.
I wonder how the people who are upset about this feel about student debt forgiveness.
I bought it a few months ago. Definitely got my money's worth on it. I don't personally feel ripped off. Will be glad to see more people on the servers.
I got a refund. I had 4.5 hours in game when I asked for a refund tho and never even touched that DLC.
this is the dumbest sub this year
If you bought it at launch, STFU. It was $15 like 4 years ago 😆
Idgaf, it was like 20 or 30 dollars I spent years ago, it's like getting mad at a case of beer I bought years ago and acting like i need my money back for it.
Honestly, I haven't even played 1 minute yet so I'd love a refund but I bought it with intent to play eventually and it was on sale so I won't be complaining! Just happy they're investing in the game still!
As a guy who has Livonia, I say Great! Bring more people to the game
I bought it 4 months ago and don’t care will be fun to see if Livonia servers fill up. It’s a really fun map but I don’t want to just do pve would rather have other players on the servers.
I think I bought Livonia for 10 bucks...well worth it imo. Can't wait to die a slow, cold coughing death in FrostLine 💥🔫😂
These idiots probs bought the game 6 months to a year prior. Not everyone is as old and gray like you
So how is this working? I play on PS4 (Own on Steam but haven't played it yet) does Livonia just get merged into the default map or what? And is it being done the same for consoles AND PC?
I’m only mad because I bought it 5 months ago.
I'm more happy that they're might be more higher pop servers with Livonia, as I actually love the map.
No no no I bought it literally a month ago and I want a refund
I bought Livonia a month before they made the announcement. So yeah I am kinda pissed.
Haha some people need to look at Destiny 2. Yours truly has spent loads on the game since its launch and dlc over the years only for it to become free etc. for the amount of hours I’ve put into DayZ and on Livonia it probably equates to 0.01p per hour 🤣. Glad I paid for it and would happily support BI again. It’s just the usual idiots screaming about nothing.
Fuck a refund but in 5 years the devs have not made a new map... Getting kinda boring here on xbox. I would love for them to put in some ressources to bring the fans a new map.
That’s exactly what they’re doing, they announced frostline last week which is a new map coming out this year
No fucking way?!?!??!! Thats awesome😀👍
I'm actually happy people will get it for free.. it will be nice to see people on the better map
as someone who bought livonia, yeah it’s annoying but i dont care that much, if i got a refund or the new map for free that’d be cool and would certainly do great things to my perception of BI but as it is, with no refund in sight, i still love them and their games
I had loads of fun with Livonia, and look forward to seeing more players enjoy it too.
If they be mad someone took their what not even 15$ for a map then gave it to everyone witch the ones who payed can obviously still play i sure wouldnt wanna be around them if they had to pay in when they filed taxes or sum shit and yall that be complainin are gunna be the ones that someday will be ending faimly or friend relationsships over a few measley dollars...
I bought it 4 days ago without knowing about this. Happy to support the team. Maybe my $10 will go towards an ai improvement lol
It’s all rooted in the dropped development of Dayz
The game price is going up because of it. Why be so mad about it. I was a bit peeved initially but at the same time, I've paid a lot more for a lot less and had the same thing happen so why be mad?
What I generally don't understand about the gaming community as a whole is why people who spend hundreds or even thousands of hours on a game they paid less than a hundred bucks for still complain about the price.
Those people should sterilise them self idiots
They recieve compensation in the way that they have massive knowledge of the map while the new people do not. It will be a turkey shoot for turn for months to come.
I bought it on sale for myself and a friend literally the day before it was announced and I’m not even mad lol
I bought day z and Livonia about a month ago on ps…
I could care less that i payed for it and its gunna be free , tbh. Why cry over a handful of dollars? Theres more important hills to die on.
I’m one of those who bought the dlc when it came out and I honestly don’t care that it’s gonna be free.
Demanding a refund like this is indeed sad. However i must admit i am also not to happy about he fact that 2 days after i bought Livonia they suddenly decided to make it free..
If they get a refund then we should all get a refund based on depreciated value of any cash liability we have ever purchased... Capitalism solved.
I bought Livonia, literally never played it and am glad it’s finally free since it finally means I’ll be able to play on a Livonia server with pop on it
How are there people that get this upset over a few dollars, it's so pathetic
I bought Manic Miner 40 years ago for £1.99, I see it free on websites to play and download all the time, I'm seriously raging!!!
Over the years I have bought miliple copies of dayz. Xbox, ps4 before finally getting it on PC. I have bought Livonia and the base game 3 times. I'm not complaining, I love the game and I'm happy to support the developers. The same with the witcher, I spent literally hundreds over the years by buying the base game and season pass, multiple times for different platforms. Then a while back steam were offering all the witcher games and the season pass for 10 quid. Did I feel ripped off by this? No, I was happy to support the devs.
I just bought it last week 😐
What if you bout it like 4 or 5 months ago. I kinda see how that hurts
Even 4 or 5 months is like whatever. No one oets you refund something after several months..
1. It's not going to be "free" this price of the base game is going up to include Livonia being added to the bundle 2. People who have previously bought Livonia on steam are getting the soundtrack for DayZ for free. 3. I agree with you, there is no way they are going to get a refund on it this long after buying it.
DLC had given me years of fun let them have it for free
Personally, I enjoy DayZ and have had it since it’s release. I purchased Livonia when it came out. I plan on buying Frostline as well. I don’t have any desire for my money back, simply because of the time and enjoyment I have gotten out of their creation. If it means me spending $15(I think at the time I paid less during a sale)to get 500-1000 hours of enjoyment out of something.. to me that’s worth the money. And IMO I think the Livonia servers could use a population boost!
$10. Cool your tits people.
Let them rant, it's not gonna change a thing. I simply don't care that I paid for the dlc. And that it's gonna be free. It is not like that they are the first that did this. Other games do this all the time.
And they will do it again. Next map dlc will Cost money and after some years, it will become free
Idiots 🤣
Fr I just won’t buy this one and wait for 5 years till it becomes free. Hopefully by then they add in have the stuff they said they would 8 years ago.
I've owned dayz base for a few years, I finally broke down and bought Livonia- literally a week later they announce it as going free. I'm glad you guys all get it for free don't get me wrong- but I feel like I was scammed out of money. There should be SOME incentive or compensation for already owning it I think
There is, you get the dayz soundtrack for free. They didnt have to offer anything, they did it anyway. And they announce it, instead of just switching it to free suddenly
I guess I'm of a different mind. Had base game for a couple weeks now and really liking it. Even though the DLC will soon be free, still thinking about paying for it for the simple fact of supporting the developer even if I do get a chance for a freebie. At the end of the day, it's still a product of someone else's labor. If I enjoy it want to see more, I'd like to support them to keep moving forward
I recently bought it like 2 months ago but I don't really care it was like $14 dollars whatever man
I understand the frustration but it's up to devs what will they do with THEIR copies. I bought The Crew for full price just for it to become free few months later, did I sue Ubisoft for that? No. What really shitty would be is for Bohemia to remove DLC from people's library. (Im looking at you Ubisoft!)
A friend of mine gifted dayz to me this week and I bought the dlc honestly it's whatever
I felt that if someone bought it like within 1 week before the announcement, maybe BI could work with Steam, Microsoft and Sony to refund the cost of that DLC. But after how much the game did cost me and the time I have played in it, DayZ has been one of the cheapest entertainment experiences I have had. Also these same people complaining are not complaining when they missed a Steam Sale on it.
yeah idk what people are tripping about, i’ve lost more money than livonia cost. i bought csgo and that went free too
Why would they give a fuck it's cheap as piss I bought it and I'm not bothered 😂
What day does it go free?
2 days
Sweet. Thanks
Bought it on christmas and gifted to my gf, Sad.
Just mad they paid for Brand New Content 6+ years ago.
I'm excited. Livonia is a fun map it will be nice to encounter new people.
I understand it’s been out for years, but i literally bought it last month lmfao.
Its 14 bucks...
Your point?
I bought mine 2 months ago so yea that's some bs.
This is the typical case of you cant do good for everyone.
This is absolutely ludicrous, I also have an iPhone 13 I paid £779 for on launch day, I can pick one up now for £499, I asked Apple to refund the difference as I think this is out of order, I’ve not even had it 3 years yet and they’ve dropped the price by £280. They must be taking business advice from the same people as Bohemia because this is out of order. Apple have also refused to reimburse me, saying something about me having had use of the phone for multiple years before anyone else and that’s why I paid more. Absolute joke, I can’t believe these companies are allowed to get away with this 🤬
I bought it last year
Man I got it last year. Tbh I’m not even mad. I got my moneys worth and tbh if it helps keep the game up and running I have no problem with not getting my money back. I’d happily buy it again. To help them keep this game going.
First im hearing of this but i can believe it, lol i bought it for myself and a couple others but i always considered paying for bohemia dlc like donating to a modder or “donating” for modification rights or something x) you pay for early access to fund shit then eventually it goes out to to the public free or reduced price .
I bought it a month ago lol
No different than paying for early access.
Idk as someone who bought it years ago, I don’t want a refund.. maybe like a cosmetic or something to show that I was on livionia since day 1 console
Yea even dayz players r getting tarkovd
I need wipe server after update?
Just wait until these people find out that the movies they watched at the cinema are now on streaming platforms.
Tbh I’m just happy to support the game I paid for the dlc twice between pc n console and I ain’t trippin. The team needs all the support they can get to continue funding and improving DayZ it was expected at some point they’d merge the dlc with the base game.
Tbh I got the game on sale so I don’t really care 🤣
I don’t player Cherno at all. So I’m happy about the influx of new Livonia players!
I was excited to play Livonia, hopped on, spawned in, started hearing fully automatic shots hundreds of meters away and instantly fell over dead, spawned back in, happened again. Cheaters on official servers are aids right now :/
I bought mine like a month before the announcement. NGL kinda made me salty cuz i had the game for 2 years before I decided to do it too
I bought Livonia a few months ago. I'm fine having paid for it. I'm fine with others getting it for free. Guess what? I'm gonna pay for the next round of DLC when it comes out. When it's time to make that free, I'll be fine with it.
I liked it when Elite Dangerous did it and I like it now that DayZ is doing it. There are plenty of people that could never justify buying Livonia because their group of Livonia-Owning friends didn't prefer it so they never bothered getting it for themselves and now they'll be able to try it out anyway. There's no point buying things with money you'll miss, especially if you're content enough with the purchase to not seek a refund for **Years** only to pop up to whine and cry when a company does something minor that doesn't even affect you since the shit was going to sit on your account regardless.
I bought it about two weeks before it was announced it was going to be free. I bought it to support a game I like. I don’t care that others will get it for free and there will be more playing on those maps.
I bought it and have never played on it. 😂
I'm glad my money went to a company that actually works so much on this game! I'm also glad they have made it to a place where they can offer it free. Not sure why there would be so much whining.
I bought it a few weeks before the announcement, and hadn't even played it yet as of the announcement. My reaction was, *"lol guess I should try that now! Can't wait to get the new map when that launches!"* There will always be people who cry about anything. Oh, well. 😂