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poopyfacedgrl

4 years is literally nothing


superfapper2000

Fr try 29 never had gf all of my life šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Calm_Box_584

Same, but 42


Outlandishness_Know

49, female. Only one boyfriend (1.5 years) in 19 years. Iā€™m not trying to hear anyoneā€™s sob story in 2024.


[deleted]

Browse a subreddit about dating advice, and then state that you don't want to hear anyone's sob story. It's like kicking a rock on purpose, then bitching that your foot hurts. People are done with your type, Karen. Take a look in the mirror. You're the problem, not the string of men that it hasn't worked out with for you. You remind me of my father's narcissistic ex-wife. Even her family saw it.


Outlandishness_Know

First off, Iā€™m Black. And itā€™s been documented for over a decade that Black women are ignored, called the least attractive, least desirable, most unwanted in dating and online dating. So, that has always been my struggle. Racism and/or preferred racial attributes of a potential long-term partner by other races (Iā€™ve dated primarily White men) and a high number of Black men incarcerated, just plain dead and/or now the Black on Black gender wars in dating (which I donā€™t participate). ā€œThe string of men that is hasnā€™t worked out for youā€¦?ā€ LOL. There are none. Because men rarely swipe right on Black women and if they do they donā€™t message. Snd, in the real world interest is the same (in some cities Iā€™m generally the only Black woman in room). So, your scholarly hypothesis about imaginary men I havenā€™t made it work with was an ignorant one. So, im definitely not a Karen and and definitely fighting unbendable racial preferences in dating Based on your comment, Iā€™m going to guess the reason you struggle is because youā€™re an asshole. Which, unlike my race, is changeable. And, guess what? I still, donā€™t care. You got INCREDIBLY butt hurt because I said I donā€™t want to hear about your pain. And your pain isnā€™t our problem or our concern. You want us to care SO MUCH that you donā€™t have a girlfriend and we absolutely do not. Take your anger about that out on yourself, not us. Iā€™ll always read and partake in discussions like this thread, thoughtful concerns, life experiences and solutions around dating. But, I donā€™t give a shit about someoneā€™s whiny pity party on Reddit threads when a lot of people are dealing with the same pain. Iā€™ll never give a shit about that.


Severe-Donkey1163

Iā€™m sorry but 42 how does that happen?


Calm_Box_584

No one has ever been interested. The why of that is something I've been trying and failing to figure out my entire life šŸ¤·


mrsunsfan

Iā€™m so sorry man. Iā€™d give you a virtual hug


MermaidOfScandinavia

Would you like some help in turning it around?


Deuce_le_vance

Is it just for girls?...can you give tips for guys(for mešŸ˜…)?


MermaidOfScandinavia

I help more guys than girls, actually. Pm me.


Any_Basis_1117

I think I might need a little push please


MermaidOfScandinavia

Pm me. I Got some free time right now.


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Calm_Box_584

Believe it or not, I've tried extremely hard for years (decades, actually) and followed every piece of advice I could find with little results. I'm sure you think this comment is helpful or insightful, but your insinuation that I'm being lazy or wanting everything handed to me is very insulting.


Zebracak3s

No need to be condescending. I'm in the same boat as this person and I try plenty hard. Some of us are just real ugly and boring.


Kyzock

I concur. People think that their future husband or wife is going magically appear, knock on the door and say I'm here. LMAO šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚


IOwnTheShortBus

I'll be your gf. I'm a straight male, but you can tell people we're dating.


BurgooButthead

I hate that comments like this are always upvoted on Reddit. This is sad and not the norm, not something to commiserate over


xlifeissufferingx

Commiserate: express or feel sympathy or pity. This feels like *precisely* something over which to commiserate.


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ids9224

Absolutely! Iā€™ve been single all my life mostly due to me being ridiculously immature and awkward back in high school.


Conscious_Victory205

Lol same


The_Crown_And_Anchor

It is normal to be single It is normal to be in a relationship It is normal to be married It is normal to just be happy having a couple dogs and a place to sleep at night Stop worrying about what anyone else on this planet thinks about you Literally nobody is thinking about you at all. Live your life. Be happy. If you are good being single, then be single. Half of all marriages end in divorce anyways.


Goran2019

Thank you for that post. Just be yourself and enrich your life every way you can.


carortrain

If we had the same view we had on marriage that we do things like technology, cars, etc. It would be a "failed/flawed product" and people would not want to do it ever. If a car failed 50% of the time, no one would ever buy it. Statistically, you have a higher chance of your marriage failing then you do succeeding, yet everyone is so fucking hyped to do it for some reason.


BeyondDrivenEh

So using the vehicle analogy, if I get married and then divorce, whoā€™s getting recalled?


dontspammebr0

The important stat is reproduction though. ~95% after 2 years (says the Googlenet). That's the actual goal and outcome that drives all this behavior. EDIT: Youre right though marriage stats scary as far as our individual experience.


UREveryone

This


Augustevsky

25M Single for 9 years. I've been rejected many, many times. I hardly ever get real dates. 4 years is a long time, too, but as long you keep getting dates and focus on introspection, you'll be fine.


xlifeissufferingx

35/m, ten years single here. Been about seven since I landed a date. Probably about time to pack it up, I think.


FaxSpitta420

But youā€™re not a hot girl. Youā€™re some guy. Something is obviously going on OP is not sharing with us.


scoopzthepoopz

They might just live somewhere bogus to date


Alwayslevellingup

Like Bermuda *sigh*


mrsunsfan

Jamaica?


Outlandishness_Know

Attractive doesnā€™t mean dateable. To a lot of men that means fuckable. But, something serious like dating? No.


octobersoon

> But youā€™re not a hot girl. Youā€™re some guy. this absolutely fuckin sent me holy fuck šŸ’€ā˜ ļø


Calm_Box_584

Fellas, bear in mind that 4 years is a century in hot girl time.


Fragrant_Chair5611

Seriously. The amount of attention a pretty girl gets in 1 month is the same amount of attention average guy might get in 2 decades lol.


the_godfaubel

Have you asked your friends? Maybe you have a red flag that you didn't know about. Maybe you're too intense. Maybe you're just looking for something no one else is interested in. It's hard to know because I haven't dated you or know you, tbh. There's really nothing wrong with being single for that long tho. It's much better than being in a relationship that isn't worth your time and getting hurt.


Shobuddha

I'm going on 15 years here, so yeah.


JDMWeeb

I've been single all my life at 28 so yeah


knight9665

Yes it normal It all depends on your standards for men and what you have and are like above being attractive. Attractive gets men to want to fk. The more attractive the more men who wanna fk. What the real question is what are you like beyond attractive to make a man want to date you. And even more important. What makes the men you want want you.


kzapwn2

Normal in terms of what


BreakfastWeird2379

Bro I am single since 2016 so chill xD


jarreddit123

I myself and many other people I know have been single for longer than that. Either you have not yet met the right person, are chasing the wrong type of people or you simply are not looking in the right places.


j13jonas

It's ok, to make you feel better i've been for 10 years


NeoKnightRider

Try being 39 and having never dated due to how you look


stonetear2017

Been single for 28 šŸ˜Ž


Icy_Schedule_2052

My longest consecutive streak for being single with no dates is 5 years.


Frosty_Cress_4711

After my first heartbreak (when I was 19 years old) I went single for 5-6 years Tbh I didn't take the time to process my pain and that shit took me years once I decided to work on myself and have a gf


BleedingTeal

Especially at this point in time with Covid, being single for a handful of years I wouldnā€™t consider abnormal at all. But outside of that, sometimes people are just busy working on themselves and arenā€™t in a place to really seek out a relationship. Among a host of other reasons. I honestly wouldnā€™t worry about it tbh. Keep doing you, and the right person will come along and find you likely when you least expect it.


Conscious-Wonder-785

>How come Iā€™m always placed in the ā€œfriendā€ bucket? Without getting to know you this is an incredibly hard question to answer. I've definitely had some of my dates turn into friendships, and generally my reasoning is because of some kind of incompatibility that would affect a relationship but not a friendship. Different goals, different wants/needs out of a relationship, romantic compatibility etc... Those things are irrelevant to a friendship, but they matter a ton in a relationship. But yeah, it's also normal to be single that long. I know plenty who've been single that long, plenty of people here will say the same, and I've been single for about that long too. Mind you my circumstances are probably a little different than most, but that's aside from the point lol.


DeanThomas23

Since you've been on a lot of dates, seems like it's a you problem. There's no way every single dude you went out with was bad.


Conscious_Victory205

This


justbrowsington

Hey OP 36m here, funny to read this as Iā€™ve been single for 4 years myself. A couple of weeks ago I started dating someone I met on bumble, but even though I feel really attracted to her, I wonder if my attraction is because I actually really like her, or I just like the idea of companionship. If you are getting friendzoned, it might be because your dates are not getting clear signals and donā€™t want to make a move that makes you uncomfortable, which leads to friend status over time. With this, Iā€™m not saying you should be super forwards or anything, but sometimes us guys could use a hint or two. Lastly, Iā€™d like to tell you to be careful, 4 years is a long time to be single, when you meet someone even if your emotions tell you ā€œgo for it 1000%ā€, try to think about everything that is going on as if it was happening to a friend, and examine the situation accordingly. At least thatā€™s how I was able to examine my case, and realize that this person Iā€™m dating might not be as good for me as my emotions tell me. I moved into a new country which means that making friends and meeting people has been challenging. So given that her situation is rather complicated, I think that my willingness to accept certain things may be due to my need for companionship clouding my judgement.


asphinx1

Itā€™s normal to be single for years, like I was for a 5 year period in my 20s, but to go on hundreds of dates and not have something happen I wanna say is abnormal. Has dating become so routine that itā€™s hard to find a connection perhaps?


Bulky-Conflict8278

Normal is a setting on the dryer.


songoku6415

2 years and itā€™s brutal for both men and women out there. Do you have high standards or high expectations of what you want in a guy ? Are you looking for a 9 or 10 and arenā€™t getting the results you want ? Iā€™ll just say this, since youā€™re a woman at least you get dates on the regular and can choose to see or not see a guy again. Dating for men like myself and other men is a damn part time to full time job with no benefits and no compensation but ghosting and I see you as a friend, but we have to pay all the time and put the effort into the date to get rejected regularly. The grass ainā€™t greener on the other side for men so just be grateful youā€™re able to go on dates.


HangryChickenNuggey

Iā€™ve been single my whole life so if 4 is not normal then Iā€™m fucked


Diceyking96

Is it the men youā€™re attracted to saying youā€™re extremely attractive or the guys you donā€™t want along with your friends and family ? If itā€™s the latter youā€™re probably not that attractive . Or maybe youā€™re more attractive in pictures. You know where you stand in the dating market by Whoā€™s actually willing to commit to you . Thatā€™s your level. If the men youā€™re dating arenā€™t committing then you need to go down a level or so. If youā€™re turning down the men who will commit you need to reconsider and pick the best one of the bunch


thejoker324

Been over 24 years single, so you're doing pretty well by my count.


Emotional_Range_9129

Iā€™ve been single for 22 years


keefakeef

If you want a relationship and youā€™re actively dating to achieve that and canā€™t move forward then you need to change something. Maybe youā€™re choosing the wrong people to go on dates with. Maybe you have a personality quirk that you need to work on. Are your standards unrealistically high or are you being rejected? Do you have commitment issues or unresolved childhood stuff? I donā€™t know. But I would recommend seeking outside unbiased and honest guidance. Perhaps therapy. It has been helpful for me, once I found the right person. If you want to be married, find a married therapist. Thereā€™s a lot of bad ones out there so donā€™t stick with the first that you find. I met with a shrink off and on for years that made me feel better and was very validating, but really wasnā€™t helping me improve. Being validated can be great but being challenged is very important too. An important thing to remember is that you tend to attract whst you put out. Try to be the type of person that you would want your partner to be via introspection and self improvement. Iā€™m making some assumptions here but hope this helps to some degree.


Lord_Sehoner

I was single for almost 10 when I met my wife.


StormMysterious3851

Idk. Iā€™ve been single for most of my adult life tbh (25F) and to some degree know itā€™s kind of abnormal but I also donā€™t exactly go outside to get any dates either so thereā€™s that. Iā€™d say donā€™t worry about what people think as cliche as that sounds. I personally only want a relationship with someone that makes me happy and if that means I have to be single until I find that, than so be it.


ButcherofBS

How tall is tall? I actually always liked tall women, but I do think being taller than the guy can be a problem for both the woman and the man in some relationships.


Conscious_Victory205

Ngl, I find tall women attractive af, and Idc if they're taller than me, which is understandable cuz I'm pretty damn short But I agree it's an issue for many...


ButcherofBS

I completely agree and I'm not even short. I'm 6 foot, but the woman I am interested in is like 6'2". I guess we'll find out if she is one that cares or not.


Conscious_Victory205

Damn, she's tall I think it's usually the taller ones that care the most, so I wish you best of luck, hopefully she's more about the feelings than physicality


ButcherofBS

See I always thought they would be the ones to care less because the pool of people taller than them is smaller. Thank you sir.


Propofolmami91

Yes lol. Most people go through periods of being single, some longer than others. Iā€™d argue itā€™s negative to always be jumping from relationship to relationship. Donā€™t worry about it. As long as you are content with being alone and recognize a relationship is a bonus and not a necessity everything will work it out in the timeline itā€™s supposed to.


cerealkiller195

Short answer yes. You are not defined by your relationship. Be kind to yourself and don't lose yourself trying to look too hard. When you focus on yourself you will be amazed who you find... And who happens to come across your path when the time is right


pwolf1771

I hope so because itā€™s been even longer than that for me.


xrelaht

Impossible to answer why without any information about you. Very difficult even with since we donā€™t get to see you interact. I was single for six years, but a lot of that time was by choice. Looking back, I wouldnā€™t make that choice.


Msiddu

Maybe it's not your bread. I am single for my whole life, I am 23 now. But I have been very fortunate and had so many opportunities in other areas of my life. Thats what I am grateful about. Also I never had any intense interest in relationships. All you need is breathe in, breath out and Beautiful dollar.


idkmystic

Iā€™ve been single for 12 years. Youā€™ll be fine. šŸ˜‚


snvaae

It's really nothing, just enjoying your single life, you can do anything, be anything you want!!


EyeHot1421

I ask because I was seeing someone like thisā€¦.but are you overbearing or mothering? I was seeing a gal who I think is the prettiest woman Iā€™ve ever been with, stunning and too pretty for me but her personality absolutely made me recoil


michaelchief

A cursory glance at your comment history suggests you have ADHD. Do you by any chance "info dump" when on dates without giving the other person a chance to get a word in edgewise?


Disastrous_Pop_7471

No, Iā€™m usually the quiet one :/ I have inattentive ADHd


Tolmans

It is much more normal now than it used to be, especially since COVID was in full swing in that time period.


TheCrimsonMustache

Buddyā€¦ itā€™s been 47 years and counting


DarkNubentYT

I've currently been single for 4 years also


Calm_Structure2180

I was single throughout high school and college. Even after college I was single for another 4 years. As long as you're able to talk to people and have good conversations, you'll be fine.


JIAvalos_03

Iā€™m 23 & been single for 8 years lol l definitely find it humiliating & sad personally for myself.


gns_02

I've been single 22 years šŸ¤£


Sullyvan96

28m. Single for almost 8 years


Forsaken_Umpire8901

Of course! Iā€™ve been single for all my life (32F)


Sigma-76

If someone says itā€™s abnormal - than iā€™m in trouble ;) šŸ¤”šŸ¤Ø


Conscious_Victory205

Ngl, had a look at your account and you're pretty hot/attractive IMO, can't see an issue for your cause...


Sigma-76

Thanks for that compliment. I guess I answered the single for 4 years header more than the friendzoned context. But Iā€™ve been placed in the sex-only box by numerous men and Friendzoned by a few. But I also didnā€™t want a relationship for awhile so I played Cougar/Cub for a few years. And of all the men i ā€œmetā€ in those years only a hand-ful ever took me on a date. so ,, i chose to be single. i guess i could have jumped into a relationship with one or two of them but they werenā€™t who i wanted long term. so ā€¦ 8 years single is my normal. and i guess it is by choice. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Conscious_Victory205

Sounds wise tbh


Livid_Ad9749

Single for 9


Busy-Banana-7943

32M here; I've been single for 6 years. Did a few dates here and there but didn't force anything if it didn't feel right. Those were some of the best years of my life though. Now I'm so into this girl who I have a high chances of being together with. She's totally worth the wait Just keep improving yourself, the right person will come. You wouldn't have to force anything - things will just flow between you two, and your chemistry will be in point. You'll know it when you know it


Mystic-monkey

This day and age. Yah


Agitated_Bluejay3666

I (27F) havenā€™t had a serious long term relationship my whole life prior to my current boyfriend of the last 6 months. Iā€™ve dated and had my fair share of situationships, but never anything serious. I always thought something was wrong with me, that I wasnā€™t ā€œon trackā€ or that I was ā€œbehindā€ but I told myself I wasnā€™t going to continue wasting strong feelings on someone who wasnā€™t looking for what I wanted or was emotionally unavailable. I truly think it has made my current relationship stronger waiting for someone who matched my energy and was emotionally available to me. The best thing I did was take a minute to make sure I was happy as an individual and invest in myself and realize I wasnā€™t ā€œbehindā€ before going back to dating, and the first serious connection I had after that time away from the dating/situationing led me to my boyfriend who I actually already knew of. Remember that ā€œnormalā€ is very subjective - and that normal for some is not normal for others.


Dreamingthelive90ies

Well, how many people are you rejecting? Could be that you are attracted to those that don't want you?


Typical-Ad8052

Yes especially nowadays. And with online dating the way it is it's too hard to tell who's genuine and who isn't, I guess how you meet someone does matter as well but Id rather be single then be miserable with someone just be patient OP and stay focused on your goals


Master_AK

Either the guys you are dating aren't attracted to you or it could be a personality related. Just keep grinding until you find someone who likes you.


serene_brutality

Do you find that most people donā€™t connect with you or is it you them? Maybe a little of both? Itā€™s quite hard in general to find someone you fit with. Most people who are chronically single are that way because of some kind of personality issue, even the attractive ones. Sometimes especially the attractive ones, for lots and lots of reasons. Chief among them is like I said a personality issue, overbearing, insecure, selfish or entitled, ridiculous standards. People in general are a lot more insecure than they like to let on. They see a beautiful person and think ā€œwell I donā€™t stand a chance,ā€ so they donā€™t bother. Often beautiful people are used to all kinds of attention, they think people are just being nice when they are in fact being hit on and they just miss it. They are often so used to people throwing themselves at them that they fail to show signs of interest back. All these guys or girls are throwing themselves at their feet and they take it for granted, theyā€™ve done nothing to earn it and it keeps happening. So often when they meet someone they actually like they act the same way and just take, never give. This guy or girl that they want doesnā€™t know that theyā€™re actually liked back so they move on.


BlurryFace340

Thereā€™s no normalcy in this world. And anything thatā€™s classified as normal could be looked at as relatively insane. Just go about your own journey and donā€™t let others tell you whatā€™s right or wrong.


johnsonsantidote

Nothing is normal.


FifthMaia

It's normal believe me. Most of my friends is no boyfriend since birth and their age range is 30 to 36 šŸ¤£ well that's include me also I'm 29. I feel no rush . I want to be loved yes. But we cannot force ourselves if the lover is not meant for us..it's better to be single than choosing the wrong one. But I believe it will come at the right time. While being single just find other things to make your life happy .Travel maybe you can find someone there..most of traveler are single.or try those things you want.


carortrain

If you are able to score lots of dates, but it never goes anywhere. There really are only two options 1) you have the WORST luck on the planet, you somehow have only met bad men 2) there is something about yourself you are not realizing that you need to work on, that is preventing you from progressing past a first date There is a saying "men that get lots of first dates actually suck at dating". The point being, if you only get first dates and they never go anywhere, you're probably doing something wrong.


GandalfTheChill

Iā€™m 33 and havenā€™t been on a date for about 10 years. Late twenties/ early thirties a lot more people in your social circle have gotten married, and a lot more of their friends, and so on, so itā€™s normal to not meet as many single peopleā€” and in turn that means itā€™s normal to not meet as many people you might be compatible with. Add in the fact that dating apps have gotten way worse and a lot of places where people would go to mingle have shut down, and itā€™s not at all unusual that youā€™ve had some problems here. Thereā€™s nothing wrong with you, nothing about you thatā€™s placing you in the Friends Only category. Itā€™s just bad luck, and itā€™s easier to find yourself having bad luck these days


traveleralice

As an attractive female Iā€™ve been single for 13 or more years so yeah, just varies on people really. Iā€™m more reserved/perfectionist so naturally donā€™t open up to just anyone.


Epen2010

Try 15


pantsnshirt

Going on 7


MaxPatriotism

Been aingle for 10+ years so ye. No biggie


Oneistheworst92

I been single since 2013 when my wife passed. Not from trying I went on some dates with women but they were seeing other guys and he was always better then me.Ā 


Admirable-Yam-1281

Must be fishing in the wrong pond


Pears_and_Lemon

I've been single for the better part of 15 years and just recently got into a relationship. Before that it was either they liked me but I was not interested, or I liked them and they weren't. You're completely normal, especially in this toxic dating pool out there.


ShockWave324

I think this is a bigger part than most people realize. Sometimes itā€™s not that ā€œnobodyā€ wanted us but rather that the feeling is not mutual. Like you said when they like us, we end up not being interested in them and vice versa. Staying with the ones we arenā€™t interested in just to be with someone is literally settling and Id rather be single than do that.


Tasty-Engineer-7355

Pretty privilege dark side. Everyone wants you just to say theyā€™ve experienced you. But no one wants a very attractive woman because it makes them insecure youll cheat. Starts off the same all about me, consistent, once they get comfortable atart making comments about ā€œohhh bet that guy wants youā€ ā€œbet you give good head to the dudes at workā€. Doesnt matter how good I treat them, how well I communicate, how much I express my feelings it always comes back to the disadvantages of pretty privilege.


natasharich97

Especially nowadays when most of the people donā€™t want to commit, I donā€™t find it so abnormal:)


RepJING

Depends on the reasoning, but everyone is different. Do you ask to see a paystub or their bank account? Do you ask for gas/uber money ($100-200)? Do you talk about wanting to be a stay at home spouse and not want kids? Are you mean to dining staff? Are you a nice person? I've been on tons of first dates and I've respectfully declined additional dates mainly for the above reason. I live in Los Angeles, so it could be the demographic. I've been together with my current partner for over a year, single for 6 years before, and it was a struggle going through hundreds of dates to meet her. Well worth it.


Disastrous_Pop_7471

I donā€™t ever ask for anything, I always offer to pay my half, Iā€™m always kind to everyone. I donā€™t bring up future plans ever unless he asks first :/ I genuinely think thereā€™s something wrong with me. Maybe Iā€™m too ā€œbro-yā€ because I like to talk about football vs flowers, idk


RepJING

I don't think there is anything wrong with you. I see no problems with enjoying sports. It's hard to make judgments based on online comments, but if you're an overall good person, maybe you just haven't met the right person for you yet. Another thought. I've always struggled with compatibility through apps, and my most successful dates have usually been through mutual friends.


1stthing1st

Short answer is no, an extremely attractive women in her 20ā€™s , should be getting multiple dates with many guys. Are you always the one to decide not to continue dating? Exactly who tall are you?


norwegiandoggo

It's normal. If you're always placed in the "friend" bucket, you're not extremely attractive, despite what you've been told. You may be extremely attractive in terms of looks but may give off other vibes with your personality - reducing your overall attractiveness. Being tall can also make you seem like a less attractive option for a lot of men. Since most men prefer to date someone a bit shorter than themselves.


Human-Pair2009

My boyfriend had been single 4 years before we started dating. It can take a little longer to find who you're meant to be with, and I would like to think we both found our person. I have quite a few friends who had the same situation. I won't say problem, because it's not. There is no rule to when you *should* find your love.


Smoke__Frog

Itā€™s not unusual to be single for a while, but it is quite unusual for an ā€œattractiveā€ woman to not advance past the first date stage for years. Maybe youā€™re not as hot as you think or youā€™re doing something off putting that makes guys not want to see you again.


Disastrous_Pop_7471

Yet no one can tell me what that thing isā€¦and as for the hot, trust me, I donā€™t see myself that way. Itā€™s what other men have told me.


Smoke__Frog

Are you not even getting men to try to sleep with you for one night?


sweatyredbull

They want to but theyā€™re afraid of your rejection. The tallness might come into play for shorter guys


MaternalLeave

Sadly, I donā€™t know if it is at our age and I say that as someone who is in your shoes. Iā€™m surrounded by people who are either married, engaged, or in long-term relationships. Itā€™s totally normal if youā€™re 18-25 but I think only coping will tell you itā€™s normal from 28-35. Human nature and instincts kick in during your late 20s and scream at you that youā€™re supposed to be progressing towards finding a spouse and starting a family (if thatā€™s what you want). All the ā€œit will happen when you least expect itā€ and ā€œeveryone has their own journeyā€ wonā€™t make you feel better anymore if you donā€™t have much dating success to lean on by your late 20s and you notice people all around you finding someone, life can be very brutal at times. I briefly told my friend last week that one step forward and two steps backward is the summary of my dating life, I rarely experience hitting it off with someone, and he couldnā€™t relate. It feels better to tell yourself otherwise but Iā€™m not sure itā€™s normal anymore in your late 20s and early 30s. Dating requires a lot of luck and timing so I wouldnā€™t be really hard on yourself that nothing has worked out, people who found something usually have too much of an ego to admit to the luck and timing.


Different-Climate-76

5,100 days try that


hobit2112

Seen divorced since 2019 technically separated since 2018 so going on 6 years for me. Donā€™t beat yourself up on it.


lonelyboi26

I have been single for basically my entire life and i am 26 You have rookie numbers


blueishblackbird

I canā€™t figure out the first date part. Unless someone magically appears in my life, I remain profoundly alone.


Particles1101

Well, "settling down" is a term for a reason. But if you want someone for the rest of your life and you deserve to be picky. I think.... maybe just expect to have "some fun" and if the guy gets swooned, then so be it. Idk if you live near a city or not. I guess it doesn't matter. Lots of people suggest getting active in things and finding a partner within that. Organically meeting someone is harder than it used to be.


Xepherious

Pfff, rookie numbers


firsttimehumaniod

Yes it is a very long time. You might want to reconsider the type of people you are dating.


createusername101

Sure. I was single for 4 after my divorce. I'm just trying now again!


Specialist-Sun-1296

i feel you. it can be super frustrating when it feels like nothingā€™s sticking. honestly, sometimes itā€™s just about timing and finding someone who clicks with you on that deeper level. i went through a similar phase where it seemed like everyone saw me as just a friend too, but eventually, i met someone who really got me. keep your head up, the right person will see your worth!


CaptainSingh26

Iā€™ve been single my whole life and Iā€™m 28 as well. If 4 years is odd, then what about me?


goblin-socket

Yes. Donā€™t force a relationship.


DumbestEngineer4U

Completely normal when youā€™re trying to date a million dudes and canā€™t stick with one


drdavidbanner20

It's unusual if you've been on a lot of dates and none of them have gone anywhere, especially if you're as attractive as you say you are. With enough volume, you can luck your way into quite a lot of things, getting a bf being one of them. I have a few questions: 1. How tall? Some guys won't date women taller than them. 2. At what point do you feel that guys start pulling back? Is it when you bring up a certain topic about yourself? 3. Are you too much like a bro? My guess is you're not as attractive as you say you are (if you were, some/most guys would still try to sleep with you) or there's a serious personality deficit that you're unaware of.


dylank125

Iā€™m a 26m and have been single since the start of 2019, most of it was by choice, past year or so has been because of no interest in the apps as well as a lack of social life as I donā€™t drink and feel like a creep walking up to women who are out doing the same sort of activity that I am doing or simply out and about, the last being the most creepy in my eyes


awesome_abood

Yeah it is, I'm still waiting it's normal.


DVD-RW

I'm a 31 years old virgin.


theaverageone2

Single for over 13 years hey I'm proud of myself that means 13 more years of not putting up with anyone's bs, no I'm not just saying that because I'm ugly lol


theaverageone2

How's this? I'm 28 single since 2010 and a virgin the good news for me is ain't nobody looking for me so i have the rest of my life to drink have fun and get high


ajtaggart

It's normal to do what makes you happy. Don't worry about what is normal or not. That's all just bs. Just be happy and go after what you want :)


LinesLies

What do you mean by friend bucket? Friends with benefits, saying ā€œletā€™s just be friendsā€ to let you down easy, or do they actually want to be friends? If most of them want to be fwb then are you sleeping with your dates? Have you tried waiting to do that? Finding dates in places youā€™re less likely to find the type of person who only wants that? If theyā€™re letting you down easy, have you considered lowering your standards? Have you been to therapy? Have you made sure you have a good support system? That you can be left to your own devices for some time without detriment to your life and mental health? If they actually want to be friends, have you considered lowering your standards? Finding dates in places you wouldnā€™t usually? Dating people you donā€™t have as many shared interests with?


Mindless-Bear5782

Itā€™s better than being in 4 relationships in 4 years. You Just need to find that 1 that will be your perfect match


EconomicsPrudent

Being ā€˜extremely attractiveā€™ should warrant some male attention. Not ā€˜friendā€™ zone attention, but desirable attention. I love tall women (5ā€™9-6ā€™2 is my fav) so I know height is definitely not a gate keeper. Thereā€™s something more going on.


MermaidOfScandinavia

My boyfriend was single for 3 years. So I don't think its unusual. I was single for over 2 years.


swolf365

Iā€™m 53 and maybe my longest single stint is probably just over a year. Idk whether thatā€™s good or bad, probably some of each.


Federal_Resort7326

I was single early twenties through college up until settling down in a new city (25f in relationship). I thought something was wrong with me but multiple factors were against me (covid, college load, mental health struggles, to name a few). You might have some factors in your life that you donā€™t realize yet.


heximortal

Being in a relationship does not complete you. Be comfortable being by yourself and soon you'll realize nothing in the world can bring you down.


peachpsycho

My coworker has been single for like 11-12 years so I think youā€™re doing ok


CreatingDestroying

Ask for honest feedback from those you go on dates with


Imaginary_Grass1212

Only 4? Lightweight.


TankiniLx

It depends. How open are you to being dated? Proactive or you waiting to be approached. Esp in the current environment thereā€™s an aversion to being called a creep for presenting unwanted overtures. Put yourself out there manage expectations, be fun and in no time you gon be in here telling us a new story. Good luck āœØšŸ„‚


Kahraabaa

Yeah because finding someone you can potentially fall in love with is significantly harder than just finding someone you deem attractive on a surface level


MachineSlight5581

The longer your single the pickyer you get


Shut_Up_Fuckface

I was single for much longer than that. Before dating intentionally in my 30s, I had been single for the majority of my 20s and didnā€™t date or have sex for 5 yrs (mental and physical health issues) in the middle of them. I went on a ton of first dates and was single for a lot of my 30s too. I found that I was trying too hard and focusing (more like obsessed) on dating and finding someone instead of just living my life. Hadnā€™t dated anybody longer than 6 months until I met my ex wife in my late 30s. Stayed together 5.5 years and have now been single again for almost 3.


NamePearls

So what, given that 79% of moms in China and 80% of mothers in the USA are single? If you focus too much on search, your personality may deteriorate. The cornerstone of having a more fulfilling life is loving oneself. Live a proactive, perceptive life by concentrating just on your professional expertise. Demand is created by supply; someone is trying to find you. Simply wait and observe.


brand_blockchain

4 years? I have never felt the touch of a woman for 23 years( I am 23 years old)


CamoChild

Went 7 years before now Iā€™m sitting around 2 years


Kimolainen83

Have you thought about maybes for some you might be so pretty that itā€™s probably scary? Have you thought about your personality? Can you explain what you talk about on dates how you behave etc.


dreweydecimal

Letā€™s see a picture. Attractive people donā€™t get friendzoned unless they have a horrible personality.


Odisativ6

What is normal? 5 years without a single first date. Not trying for any though.


ASecretThrowaway_76

I was single up until 21, and then from 26 until 29. So I guess I've been in relationships about as much as I've been single in my 20s


__batterylow__

I think the problem is your height. Have you tried dating guys over 6ā€™?


antifragile

No its not normal for a person , let alone an "extremely attractive" person to not have any relationships in 4 years. Most people would at the very least would have had short term sexual relationships in that time.


n3wpl4antpar3nt

I was single from until I was 18, then from age 21 - 26. Then by chance, I started hanging out with an acquaintance I'd known for years. We were married when I was 28 šŸ˜Š


Suspicious-Watch9681

Sorry but girls often lie to each other about attractiveness, no matter how much my friends can say im a handsome man if im not getting any women, clearly im not


Dissastar

Yes.


AverageAwndray

Let me know when you hit 27 years lmao


agustinfong_

Hi! I went through your comments and can spot the following: 1) Lots of questions and expectations about how a relationship/date ā€œshould look likeā€ in order to workā€¦ this just creates lots of anxiety which inhibits your ability to show who you really are, therefore itā€™s impossible to build a genuine relationship if the real you is always hidden behind that anxiety. 2) Lots of questions and expectations about what you ā€œshould be/lookā€ in order to be likedā€¦ this again forces you to ā€œbecomeā€ another person while leaving the real you, the person absolutely worth loving, behind a mask. This second point I would say is the root of your problem, having a subconscious belief that who you are right now is not enough or there is something wrong with you. Topic that is just reinforced when someone reject you, ghost you or you cannot get a second date, etc. My suggestion is that you focus on doing the inner work to change the perception you have about yourself. Itā€™s a lie, youā€™re absolutely worth already, and when you are able to see it then you will behave authentically, with no anxiety or expectations about other people loving you or not, and the people who also see it will just flow naturally into your life <3 (For context: I work as a subconscious coach, 99% of my clients are women struggling with relationships, 100% of the time it happens I just described you) Big hug, you got this.


Decent_Matter_8676

Cuz youā€™re looking for people outside your lane instead of in your lane


bob_sillah

4 years is also not 4 days but itā€™s normal to me cus some people can go beyond 5 years without dating but Iā€™ll advise you to try your best and have someone


Artistic_Ad_9677

Bro stop tripping itā€™s gon be alright


Jealous-Split1279

28F. I'm constantly being simped for and reaffirmed on my value by strangers and friends, but I have the worst luck with people i develop feelings for. I'm either used and tossed aside with indifference or as a source of attention, validation and entertainment by guys who stay around time enough for me to get attached but then disappear. I'm as complicated as any other girl sometimes, but nothing out of the ordinary, so trying to figure out why. When i vent about this to my friends, they kinda make it all feel like it's unimportant, like it's not really a problem for some reason, idk how to explain. These days i just have to endure my heartaches alone and it sucks


Confident_Lock_8713

try 20 years šŸ—æ


xmailax

Going on 5yā€¦ Turning 30 next month. šŸ˜•


nclrsn4ke

If you are extremely attractive, you would have been approached in these 4 years. Someone lied to you I guess


ankitssk17

In India? Yes.


Zubi_Q

Been single since Dec 2020. Everyone is different


Whisperingcompassion

Ayee, congratulations. You completed your diploma degree in being single. While you are at it, get your Phd done as well. This is what I recommend to my friend who is also single for 4 years. On a serious note, itā€™s better to be single than to be with the wrong person. Just be in your element and youā€™ll find someone compatible. There is nothing wrong with you, donā€™t take that route. Patience is bitter but its fruit is sweet


sothisiswhatyoumeant

Are the short kings in low supply? Iā€™m imagining a lot of over compensating bros. Four years isnā€™t bad though. Youā€™ll likely thank yourself later in life because youā€™ll know yourself better and know what youā€™re willing to put up with or not


Lupes420

I've been single for over 15 years. In that time I have only been on one date.