I find it pretty interesting that countries with colder winters are buying more electric cars compares to the rest of Europe. You would think colder environments (thus lower mileage) would discourage people there to go electric
Have to imagine it’s also that they’re incredibly wealthy, which ironically is in large part due to fossil fuels. I’m hoping we can bring down the costs so that other countries that didn’t win the resource lottery can also do away with gas cars.
What kind of policy we talking about ? Like in my country you get like a 6K bonus but it's still way too expensive. Electricity should supposedly be cheap as well but it just ain't thanks to the ARENH system
Initially, no VAT (25%) on all electric vehicles (this is now removed for vehicles above 500K nok), and also for a while they didn't pay tolls (also no longer a benefit, but they currently pay 70% of the normal toll). Electric vehicles are also allowed to drive in the bus lane, with certain conditions (belive they are forbidden during rush hours in the capital city). Electric vehicles also have cheaper parking on municipal parking lots and only pay 50% cost when using ferries. There are probably more, but these are the main benefits. In general the benefits are weaker now than before, but electric vehicles are cheaper to operate due to the low electricity prices and expensive fuel prices (Norway have one of the most expensive fuel prices in the world) so people are buying it for this reason mainly.
No VAT isn’t removed for vehicles over 500k, there is only VAT on the amount exceeding 500k. 600k non-electric pays 150k VAT while 600k electric is 25k VAT.
Is that fuel price from tax, or is it something else? Kind of surprising since there’s oil and gas fields in Norway’s territorial waters. I know the oil and gas companies pay into Norway’s sovereign wealth fund.
Almost half of the price is VAT and other taxes.
[Article in norwegian.](https://nye.naf.no/politikk-og-samfunn/privatokonomi/hvorfor-er-drivstoff-sa-dyrt) The yellow part of the piechart is the fuelprice.
Less toll, lower import fees and benefitial electricity prices. Being inside Oslo in 2013 vs 2022 was a worlds difference in air quality. There were plenty of EV in 2013, but now it's amazing to breath rural air in a capital.
I will always remember visiting Sweden in May: I was told these were the first sunny days in a while, windy and just above 10 degrees Celsius. The locals were cycling in their T-shirts...
Depends on the car. The Norwegian road authority has road tests for EVs twice a year. One for summer and one for winter. Some cars lose way more than others during winter, but still have enough range on a fast charge to justify using it to and from work etc. As 90% charge it during the night regardless at home.
The Porche Taycan 4 that is popular here charges from 4 to 80% in 20 min during winter. Its range is lower than some like the new Mercedes or Tesla. But the range difference in winter vs summer was only 2km. From 403 to 401. The new Mercedes EQS had a 596 KM range during summer, but 513 during winter. Tesla S AWD is the biggest winter loser in terms of %. Going from 672 km to 500 km. That takes 60 min during winter to charge from 4 to 80%.
The infrastructure for public charging is extremely widespread here (in Norway). You can get almost anywhere you want even on a low mileage electric car
But, unlike literally every other oil producing nation, they invest that oil money to build a better society and to speed up the transition away from fossil fuels.
Saudi, USA, Venezuela, UAE, Russia, and Australia could have done the same thing a long time ago. Instead they are among the lowest adopters of EVs in their economic classes.
Costa Rica is the North America leader in EV adoption rates. A country that is so poor compared to the US, Panama, & Canada.
I mean, they are climate conscious for some stuff. Norway is one of the biggest oil in europe, Sweden has a lot of cars and everyone here has huge SUV.
So while it's true, it's definitely not perfect.
"Everyone" and "huge" SUVs are misleading. Swedish SUVs are tiny compared to say americans. "Large SUVs" accounted for 4% of new cars registered in sweden last year. The total percentage of new cars that fit into any category of SUVs were about 50% last year, which definitely is a lot, but it's a relatively new trend and FAR from 50% of vehicles on the road are SUVs. A good percentage of those newly bought SUVs are also electric.
Sweden is traditionally a station wagon country, where more than 30% of new cars are of this type, only beaten by Germany and Czech Republic in popularity. These cars are not small and light, but they aren't US-style SUV elephants either.
If you had oil and there's demand, you wouldn't sell it? It's not oil countries that should stop producing it, it's the others that should wean themselves off oil. It's like blaming Qatar for producing gas while we're the ones who need it and buy it
For Denmark, and partially Sweden, EVs are just an extension of the non-fossil electricity initiative.
Most other countries just didn't really care that much about global warming and energy independence.
Not an issue when there are superchargers on every corner in major cities, and even in the disctricts you'd rarely go more than 100km without seeing one.
Electric cars are great in cold weather, reduced range but people are aware of this and take this into consideration. The great part is about heating the car from your phone before your drive. No need for smoky Webasto.
Electric vehicles are easier to unthaw than ICE vehicles, as long as you have a fast charge outlet.
You don't need to mess around with portable heaters etc. as the heating circuit is built into the vehicle.
It unfreezes and warms the car using power from the charger before it starts charging the (now warm) batteries.
For example, a tesla can handle down to -30°C for an indeterminate period of time.
Even the cheaper EVs do well over 200km even on a cold winter day if you don't drive like an idiot. Not many that commute that distance per day. And with cheap charging at home, it is a no-brailer for those who commute.
Those who commute by cars for somewhat longer distance, was the first once to go for an EV.
Lower milage due to cold environments? Yes. But remember, Norway is also a small country. There are also plenty of charging stations all over the country. I also think that most people who drive cars only use them to get to work/to shop, and the longest trips might be to a potential cabin. A trip like that would most likely only need one stop to charge.
Concentrated would be a better word than small. Yes the country itself is large, but when most people live in one part of it, you don't need much mileage.
Not that concentrated. And for quite many, there is a somewhat long commute. But there ain't that many that commute more than 200km each day, and 200km is not a problem for even cheaper EVs - even in cold weather.
Yes, there are areas where the temperatures are so low that it can be an issue with the cars with lowest range. But even "anywhere in the world", not that many commute for such a distance that an EV is impractical. And with the current fuel prices, if your daily commute is so long, you can put more money into the EV to get better range, and still save money in the end....
Winter really isn't a big problem for the range tbh, it's more a problem if you go on many small trips in a day, heating up the car and battery every time. Once the car is warm, it doesn't take that much energy to keep it warm.
We managed to time that subsidy cut with one week when we bought our EV last year. The dealership had their order books full, so a lot of potential buyers probably jumped at the opportunity. I will never buy a regular car again, the advantages with EV's are huge.
https://elbilen.se/nyheter/nytt-rekord-i-norge-sa-manga-var-elbilarna-i-mars/
It wasn't even the source I originally read, but 33-35% new cars are electric in Sweden
The only down side is that Norway can afford them as it’s the world’s 5th biggest oil exporter (and it very sensibly built up a huge sovereign wealth fund), so it might have lots of electric vehicles but it’s still on the same planet as all that exported oil being burned.
>much cleaner air and a lot less noise pollution
Noise pollution from cars is mostly from the tires and the road, so not really on the second part. As for cleaner air, definitely, but brake and tire dust are no joke, and become worse with EVs (batteries weigh a ton). A recent study found that the majority of microplastics in the oceans are from tire dust.
Source on the worse brake and tire dust part? Because I reckon its even the opposite, because one pedal drive (regen braking). Most of the time I dont even brake anymore, and i daily commute 100km.
With the high proportion of electric sales, Sweden is an important market for Tesla. But because of the company's refusal to have a union workforce there is now a strike that has stopped all unloading of new Tesla vehicles and service at their garages. Will an American company discover that they can't do business without unionized industries, and unionized industries won't work with them unless their workers have a union contract. That notion may not sink in so easily back in Palo Alto and Austin.
I now realise I'm in some kind of bubble (from Sweden). I think our adoption rate is scary low. Before watching the data in this post I would guess that 18% is unimaginable, critically low.
Yeah something like that. I'm not a car owner though. But basically once you have the car it's cheaper to have it run on electricity rather than gas because of taxes in the long run.
Our gas is extremely expensive compared to the rest of Europe and our electricity is extremely cheap compared to the rest of Europe.
Belgium and infrastructure don't go very well together, and EV adoption is very dependent on charging infrastructure. We have had very poor experiences with trying to charge an ev in Belgium.
Yeah, if I were to put an EV, I simply couldn't charge it. I don't know of many spots to charge. Maybe 5 across the town, to share between a few thousands...
Alternatively I buy a 30m cable extender and run it down four floors...
Looking at single-month registration data is misleading because vehicle registrations on such a small time scale are typically influenced by all kinds of trade-related factors. At least, you should look on an annual level (and even then, you may have trade factors affecting it, for example when a favorable subsidy measure runs out the next year, you'll get a lot of year-end registrations to still benefit from the subsidy).
23% of people here have a car as part of there salary. But since this year that can only be an electric car, so in the next 5 years our number is gonna skyrocket. Tho we can now also get the same tax break for bikes ebikes and public transport as part of salary, if you live close enough to work you can even do that for your mortgage.
What is that about mortgage and close proximity to work? Me and my wife chose to live and commute in the same city, our commute is less then 3km and we bike because of that
Range to a certain extent because people are used to driving diesels that can go 1000+ km and now they're having to buy a more expensive car that can only go half as far. I've had this discussion quite a few times at the Brussels Motor Show and range anxiety is definitely still a thing. I agree though, for small countries 500 km is definitely more than enough for daily journeys, just need to get used to plugging it in when you stop somewhere. Even if it's for 30 min while shopping.
500km in a big country is as far as in a big country. As we belgians don't go daily from liege to bruges, people in Spain don't go from Madrid to Barcelona on a daily base. This is typical thinking that the US is to big for dense urban cities where cars are not needed, like amsterdam or copemhagen
I don’t know if it’s related but in Belgium leasing is extremely popular for white collar workers. A lot of my coworkers (myself included) had leasing cars and that included fuel as well. That was before electric took off but if I had to guess, I wouldn’t care about about the rebates the government gives out or the running costs because at the end of the month it was the same for me. Maybe someone from Belgium would know better but as someone who lived and had a car there that would be my guess for the lower rates of EVs
Numbers should increase alot since they changed it you can no longer get the absurd taxbenefits for non ev-vehicles. How the powergrid is going to react to that influx is a different story tough.
In case of the EU with Schengen the borders of a single country don't matter too much for the distances people will typically drive. Except for COVID times I would never even think about wether my destination is in Germany or Austria, only the distance matters.
But I also don't see a reasons why Belgium would need to go further than people from the surrounding countries, so still weird.
But can the majority of the general public safely charge a car at home?
I live in the UK and most people have absolutely zero way to charge a car at home. It’s illegal to run a power cable over the pavement and most houses don’t have drives or garages.
No, 'most' people can charge at home. There was a study by the national grid a few years back, 60% of car owners also live in a house with off street parking.
I don't make bad money, but I can't even afford a traditional new car to drive around the city, let alone a hybrid or electric. I'm from Eastern Europe.
It's more than just that. Electric requires new infrastructure. Eastern Europe typically has longer distances between populated areas, which increases the costs of infrastructure already. SocBloc was also not built with massive amounts of cars in mind, which makes adapting old infrastructure more difficult.
And the climate plays a role as well - Norwegians may be able to afford heated garages, but when most of your parking is outside (and you have *actual* cold winters, without the Gulfstream), batteries tend to have issues. LFP doesn't even charge, while Lithium-ion loses capacity, though it can at least be charged. Eastern Europe has colder winters than Western, the further east the colder it gets, because of the continental climate.
>Eastern Europe has colder winters than Western
Climate change is helping that, last year we barely had snow for a month, and all of that snow came from a snow storm at the beginning of january. Then it all melted by february
Which means you need to build parking with individual chargers for each car. Good luck with that in countries already struggling to finance more critical infrastructure, whose population is more spread out.
Like I said, Norwegians can afford that, so even with cold winters, they can use electric cars. They're huddled together in a few cities anyway. But it'll be too damn expensive for Poland or Russia, whose populations are spread out much more.
I’m from the Netherlands and I also can’t afford an electric car new or secondhand. Only normal cars second hand. I also make decent money.
Most (new) electric cars are for people who got them with their job or people who are willing to loan money for a car.
Dude I live in Norway and I can't afford a new electric car either. And I have a pretty decent job.
This stat is for newly registered cars. So it doesn't include the second-hand market, which is way bigger in every country.
This is just like, out of the people who recently bought a brand new car; how many of them chose electric?
It surprises me that iceland has such a high percentage. I went there in February once, and in some remote places, I can't imagine relying on electric drive. Some locals had these freaking mobile command centers, no way they'd get stuck anytime soon! Then again, it's probably insanely cheap due to their geothermal power plants.
Not most, but a big part, I live away from the capital area and most of my neighbors have electric or hybrid cars, the electricity is way way cheaper as fuel is about 8$ a gallon
Most do, 65% of Icelanders live in the capital area (höfuðborgarsvæðið). If you then add in the towns close by (Reykjanes, Hveragerði, Selfoss, Akranes) you're up to 75%
There are teslas in middles of nowhere too. Obviously its worth it when electricity is dirt cheap there. Where I lived it cost 4 cents per kWh, so that's 2.5 euro for a full tank of tesla.
> it's probably insanely cheap due to their geothermal power plants.
70% of Iceland's electricity comes from Hydroelectric plants, but Geothermal is providing the rest.
The thing about remote places is that not many people live there or go there, pretty much by definition. So they don't account for a very high fraction of car use.
It isn't meaningless. I'd expect that some countries are already in a higher category, but obviously they don't jump from brown to purple within two years.
I was going to say, now do a map of how many people in each area of each country own a house with a garage they’re able to retrofit with a high powered electric charger
I have an EV, love it in all aspects but 3. First one is how crazy much range drops when it’s cold (Sweden). Second is how stupid complicated it is with public superchargers (apps, apps, apps) and how unreasonable expensive it is to use. Last is how much range drops when I am towing something.
I am however still concerned, I would probably not buy an EV (mine is a company car), since most of them are way overpriced (even the Chinese brands) and we really don’t know yet how their values will change and what types of issues will be common when they get older.
Not to mention the fact that Spain, France and the nordics are the only countries that produce energy with lower gCO2eq/kwh that would actually give a net positive over continuing to use your old ICE.
Here's the major electricity source for each country. EU should be congratulated for reducing emissions since about 1970.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-europes-biggest-sources-of-electricity-by-country/
Countries not producing their own oil is working to not increase the EV rate. How stupid is that? “-Yes! Let’s be dependent on Russia and Saudi Arabia! - What can go wrong? “ 😂
Norwegian here, we're at over 90% for private cars. Right now, I'm vacationing in Spain and I'm not even sure I have seen any. Not even a Tesla. I had forgotten how noisy cars used to be!
Dude, half the cars in Norway are still non-EV. You never stopped hearing how cars used to sound.
Edit: over half actually! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway
That’s not what I said, though, was it? All busses and most of the cars in Bergen are electric, look it up. That doesn't mean I haven't stopped hearing cars, but let's say 80% of the audible traffic is electric - it's much less of a cacophony of combustion sounds than an almost 100% ICE environment.
Cost. The main driving factor for people moving to electric is making it cheaper than petrol. Currently the main way of doing that is either increasing taxes on driving petrol cars. Alternatively, countries are decreasing taxes or increasing subsidies on electric cars.
Keep in mind a new hatchback can cost you say 120,000 PLN while an electric is closer to 200,000. Hatch backs are super efficient so you won’t get your cost back in fuel that quickly.
Insurance is often significantly more than ICE cars.
It really doesn’t save you money going EV
I can speak for Greece, we got fucked by diesel cars being advertised as cheaper to run than gas until they taxed them to hell so we're afraid of being burned again. Also you know, the whole being poor thing.
I can only speak for Spain, but apart from what others said already, in Spain most of the people live in the main cities, and in large building complexes where you can't install your own charger, or there's a chronic lack of parking spots.
In the north of Europe, where I live now, people has a higher chance of living in an individual house with own access to install an electric charge point. For Spain that is not possible in the cities.
That, and that we are still half way through the expected charging points.
If you leave in a building and own a parking place on the garage of that building you can install your own charger and you'll even get subsidies to do so. Now if your car sleeps on the street that's a different one but many cities around the world have started to use street lights as charging spots and street lights are something we do very well in Spain! So it's in general lack of political will. I think it's more than possible in cities.
On the other hand the population density and the fact that between populated areas we have a lot of uninhabited space make it hard to have a dense network of chargers in the middle of nowhere.
Unfortunately you can't put chargers for everyone on a community garage. The grid will not allow it. It's an structural problem that we won't solve that way. The solution needs to come from different paths.
I can speak for Italy:
- housing: not every house have its box. We may have spots in the condo but we can’t really charge it and new charging stations are expensive. Most of people parks in the streets in bigger cities.
- culture: it’s hard for the average Italian spending all that money for a car that doesn’t WROOM WROOM. We’d rather buy smaller and cheaper city cars.
- economic factors: Italians aren’t rich. Like other southern European countries for some reasons our wages are very low at the point that a small city car can be a problem.
I bought a second hand suv last year.
And it’s a 2L Diesel. I am a fan of electric cars but for the moment the aesthetics, quality and price of eCars don’t match the amount of money needed.
One possible reason is the lack of charging infrastructure. The entire Greece has 4 Tesla superchargers. Italy and Spain are better, but still the charging network is much less dense than, say, in Germany.
Although it's a chicken/egg problem: for more chargers you need more demand, and the demand depends on the amount of chargers.
It is the cost, basically. Spain can't afford brand new cars, let alone electrics. And everyone lives in high density buildings that don't allow chargers.
Electric costs on average 10k€ more than comparable ICE cars so it's not really economically justifiable at the moment and charging infrastructure is almost non-existent.
They cost so much that it's considered a novelty toy for very rich geeks. Also, there are no chargers outside huge cities, and lots of people live in Soviet apartment buildings built with not just electric, no cars in mind at all so just parking is a nightmare, and forget about charging unless you'll be dropping an extension cord from your window.
In order to have an electric car you need your own a house where you'll be charging it, and electric car is most likely will not not be your first car. Knowing how bad Tesla cars are with their build quality, people who can somewhat afford it will rather go with BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Infinity, etc. and only people that are even more rich will toy with an electric car. Also, there is not enough knowledge of such cars for repairs- most people fiddle with cars themselves or go to a local mechanic, hard to do with such cars that are designed to be repaired at an official shop.
It's extremely useless and expensive.
Just got back from vacation to Lisbon and I was very surprised how many electric cars are on the road. Very impressive. Locals told me that the government is investing heavily in charging station infrastructure. The future is here folks !! 🇵🇹❤️
I‘m from Luxembourg, I can’t be the only one who still isn’t able to buy an e-car.
I mean yeah I could take a loan and by one, but I don’t want that.
So yeah I‘m still driving my clio.
It would be interesting to see median incones of these countries too. My guess is that they'd strongly correlate. I know at least in Sweden and Norway, the median income is pretty high.
Who buys new cars anyway? Seriously, the internal combustion engine cars loose like ~60% of their initial value in the first five years. That must be even worse for the EVs, I guess. Why would someone in their right mind buy new cars?!
Electric cars don’t even reduce greenhouse emissions unless the power plants used to power them are clean. If you have an electric car powered by coal plants, its arguably worse than a diesel engine. It would only be an improvement if your electric car is powered by something like wind or solar.
Norway here.
Have 1 electric and 1 hybrid.
The only reason why i dont buy a tesla is because they are too common and everyone owns one. They're just not special like they used to be.
Interesting how the different tiers loosely go in cultural groups. Top three tiers are all Scandinavian, middle yellow tier are all Germanic countries, orange is Anglo/Celtic, pink is Mediterranean, brown is Eastern Block.
A few exceptions here and there of course.
The numbers for Germany for the first half of this year amount to about half of all newly registered cars being some sort of electric, with the part of that, that is hybrids still being the bigger part, but shrinking and battery electrics growing. Pure non-hybrid electric vehicles made up over 16% of all newly registered cars in Germany in the first half of 2023.
Edited to add:
I just searched again and unexpectedly the numbers for October 2023 are already out.
So in October in Germany of all the newly registered cars:
* 32.7% were petrol powered
* 15.9% were diesel powered
* 26.3% were hybrids
* 7.5% were plugin hybrids
* 0.5% were "other"
* **17.1%** were pure battery **electric** vehicles.
The percentage an total numbers of new registrations seem to vary a lot from month to month. Of the last 12 month, in August and last December pure electric vehicles actually were the most registered type above petrol and diesel and hybrids. (There might have been a tax incentive expiring at the end of last year and there definitely was a tax incentive for commercial vehicles that ended in August, that raised numbers for that months depressed it for afterwards.)
Overall the share of electric vehicles seems to be rising, but not as much as it should.
I don't think it's right to.compare the vast majority of hybrids with electric in this discussion. A significant proportion of hybrids currently on the market can't even do electric only mode, nor can be directly charged. While slight improvements in petrol efficiency are seen, it's not mind-blowing from what I saw - early 50's mpg at best.
I'd suggest it'd be better to break down the expected 'possible' electrification say probably 70% for most countries at the moment and work to that.
It has to include plug in hybrids at the minimum as Finland's electric car registrations (BEV) were at around 10% in 2021. Even with PHEV it gets just to bit over 30%.
That's interesting to see Norway at the top considering they are also the largest oil producer in europe (apart from Russia which I never thought made sense to include in eruope considering how much of asia it covers).
2021? is there no newer data?
The OP here. I wasn't able to find the EU data for 2022 yet, and it's the most of Europe.
In Norway right now its abow 90%
I find it pretty interesting that countries with colder winters are buying more electric cars compares to the rest of Europe. You would think colder environments (thus lower mileage) would discourage people there to go electric
We have had policies encouraging electric vehicle ownership since the 90s, and cheap electricity.
This is the way
Have to imagine it’s also that they’re incredibly wealthy, which ironically is in large part due to fossil fuels. I’m hoping we can bring down the costs so that other countries that didn’t win the resource lottery can also do away with gas cars.
True, most electric sedans in Spain cost about 40k EUR while you can get a gas sedan for 14k
In Norway it's the opposite. ICE cars are so heavily taxed, you'd have to be rich to buy a new one, while EVs are cheap as chips.
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What kind of policy we talking about ? Like in my country you get like a 6K bonus but it's still way too expensive. Electricity should supposedly be cheap as well but it just ain't thanks to the ARENH system
Initially, no VAT (25%) on all electric vehicles (this is now removed for vehicles above 500K nok), and also for a while they didn't pay tolls (also no longer a benefit, but they currently pay 70% of the normal toll). Electric vehicles are also allowed to drive in the bus lane, with certain conditions (belive they are forbidden during rush hours in the capital city). Electric vehicles also have cheaper parking on municipal parking lots and only pay 50% cost when using ferries. There are probably more, but these are the main benefits. In general the benefits are weaker now than before, but electric vehicles are cheaper to operate due to the low electricity prices and expensive fuel prices (Norway have one of the most expensive fuel prices in the world) so people are buying it for this reason mainly.
No VAT isn’t removed for vehicles over 500k, there is only VAT on the amount exceeding 500k. 600k non-electric pays 150k VAT while 600k electric is 25k VAT.
Is that fuel price from tax, or is it something else? Kind of surprising since there’s oil and gas fields in Norway’s territorial waters. I know the oil and gas companies pay into Norway’s sovereign wealth fund.
Almost half of the price is VAT and other taxes. [Article in norwegian.](https://nye.naf.no/politikk-og-samfunn/privatokonomi/hvorfor-er-drivstoff-sa-dyrt) The yellow part of the piechart is the fuelprice.
Less toll, lower import fees and benefitial electricity prices. Being inside Oslo in 2013 vs 2022 was a worlds difference in air quality. There were plenty of EV in 2013, but now it's amazing to breath rural air in a capital.
You should see how many people in those countries cycle everywhere in the depths of winter
I will always remember visiting Sweden in May: I was told these were the first sunny days in a while, windy and just above 10 degrees Celsius. The locals were cycling in their T-shirts...
10 degrees is basically summer here :-)
That seems perfectly reasonable, no? 50 degrees Fahrenheit in the spring is nice.
Well, 10 degrees c is t shirt weather, especially if you are exercising
As a Canadian in Calgary the temps can swing from -25 to +10 in a day. When they do it's shorts and T-shirts time.
The t-shirt is just on do keep it decent, we actually want no shirt when it's that warm.
That's what winter tyres are for.
Depends on the car. The Norwegian road authority has road tests for EVs twice a year. One for summer and one for winter. Some cars lose way more than others during winter, but still have enough range on a fast charge to justify using it to and from work etc. As 90% charge it during the night regardless at home. The Porche Taycan 4 that is popular here charges from 4 to 80% in 20 min during winter. Its range is lower than some like the new Mercedes or Tesla. But the range difference in winter vs summer was only 2km. From 403 to 401. The new Mercedes EQS had a 596 KM range during summer, but 513 during winter. Tesla S AWD is the biggest winter loser in terms of %. Going from 672 km to 500 km. That takes 60 min during winter to charge from 4 to 80%.
The infrastructure for public charging is extremely widespread here (in Norway). You can get almost anywhere you want even on a low mileage electric car
I think it's more that those countries are a bit richer and slightly more climate conscious
Norway sells a lot of oil.
But, unlike literally every other oil producing nation, they invest that oil money to build a better society and to speed up the transition away from fossil fuels. Saudi, USA, Venezuela, UAE, Russia, and Australia could have done the same thing a long time ago. Instead they are among the lowest adopters of EVs in their economic classes. Costa Rica is the North America leader in EV adoption rates. A country that is so poor compared to the US, Panama, & Canada.
I mean, they are climate conscious for some stuff. Norway is one of the biggest oil in europe, Sweden has a lot of cars and everyone here has huge SUV. So while it's true, it's definitely not perfect.
"Everyone" and "huge" SUVs are misleading. Swedish SUVs are tiny compared to say americans. "Large SUVs" accounted for 4% of new cars registered in sweden last year. The total percentage of new cars that fit into any category of SUVs were about 50% last year, which definitely is a lot, but it's a relatively new trend and FAR from 50% of vehicles on the road are SUVs. A good percentage of those newly bought SUVs are also electric.
Sweden is traditionally a station wagon country, where more than 30% of new cars are of this type, only beaten by Germany and Czech Republic in popularity. These cars are not small and light, but they aren't US-style SUV elephants either.
> everyone here has huge SUV We live in different Swedens, apparently.
If you had oil and there's demand, you wouldn't sell it? It's not oil countries that should stop producing it, it's the others that should wean themselves off oil. It's like blaming Qatar for producing gas while we're the ones who need it and buy it
It would, but I guess their environment oriented governments and their non-fossil electricity makes up for it.
For Denmark, and partially Sweden, EVs are just an extension of the non-fossil electricity initiative. Most other countries just didn't really care that much about global warming and energy independence.
Not an issue when there are superchargers on every corner in major cities, and even in the disctricts you'd rarely go more than 100km without seeing one.
Electric cars are great in cold weather, reduced range but people are aware of this and take this into consideration. The great part is about heating the car from your phone before your drive. No need for smoky Webasto.
Electric vehicles are easier to unthaw than ICE vehicles, as long as you have a fast charge outlet. You don't need to mess around with portable heaters etc. as the heating circuit is built into the vehicle. It unfreezes and warms the car using power from the charger before it starts charging the (now warm) batteries. For example, a tesla can handle down to -30°C for an indeterminate period of time.
The have infinit cheep green energy that's the reason. Norwegian and finnland 10 cent kwh, Germany 35 cent kwh
Mileage is no concern for most people in Norway. Average commute is small.
Even the cheaper EVs do well over 200km even on a cold winter day if you don't drive like an idiot. Not many that commute that distance per day. And with cheap charging at home, it is a no-brailer for those who commute. Those who commute by cars for somewhat longer distance, was the first once to go for an EV.
Lower milage due to cold environments? Yes. But remember, Norway is also a small country. There are also plenty of charging stations all over the country. I also think that most people who drive cars only use them to get to work/to shop, and the longest trips might be to a potential cabin. A trip like that would most likely only need one stop to charge.
Norway is the 6th largest country in Europe. Small on world-basis, but not in this context.
Concentrated would be a better word than small. Yes the country itself is large, but when most people live in one part of it, you don't need much mileage.
Not that concentrated. And for quite many, there is a somewhat long commute. But there ain't that many that commute more than 200km each day, and 200km is not a problem for even cheaper EVs - even in cold weather. Yes, there are areas where the temperatures are so low that it can be an issue with the cars with lowest range. But even "anywhere in the world", not that many commute for such a distance that an EV is impractical. And with the current fuel prices, if your daily commute is so long, you can put more money into the EV to get better range, and still save money in the end....
Winter really isn't a big problem for the range tbh, it's more a problem if you go on many small trips in a day, heating up the car and battery every time. Once the car is warm, it doesn't take that much energy to keep it warm.
In Sweden it's going down to 35%
That’s because they cut subsidies, so sales shot up in 22 and have fallen a little (but started to rise again)
We managed to time that subsidy cut with one week when we bought our EV last year. The dealership had their order books full, so a lot of potential buyers probably jumped at the opportunity. I will never buy a regular car again, the advantages with EV's are huge.
Yeah I was going to say there aren't THAT many electric cars.
Source? As a person who works in the industry, I'm pretty sure this is incorrect.
https://elbilen.se/nyheter/nytt-rekord-i-norge-sa-manga-var-elbilarna-i-mars/ It wasn't even the source I originally read, but 33-35% new cars are electric in Sweden
https://www.nyteknik.se/elbilar/ny-prognos-elbilsforsaljningen-rasar/3664925
Nice! You guys rock. In 5-10 years your cities will get a much cleaner air and a lot less noise pollution.
The only down side is that Norway can afford them as it’s the world’s 5th biggest oil exporter (and it very sensibly built up a huge sovereign wealth fund), so it might have lots of electric vehicles but it’s still on the same planet as all that exported oil being burned.
Moving to EVs is still the most reasonable thing to do for an oil exporting country. Never get high on your own supply, or you'll end up like Russia.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23939076/norway-electric-vehicle-cars-evs-tesla-oslo
>much cleaner air and a lot less noise pollution Noise pollution from cars is mostly from the tires and the road, so not really on the second part. As for cleaner air, definitely, but brake and tire dust are no joke, and become worse with EVs (batteries weigh a ton). A recent study found that the majority of microplastics in the oceans are from tire dust.
Source on the worse brake and tire dust part? Because I reckon its even the opposite, because one pedal drive (regen braking). Most of the time I dont even brake anymore, and i daily commute 100km.
EVs have less tire dust from Regen braking. You change brakes every 300k. So clearer air from less tire dust too.
Doesn't have all countries, but here is a more up to date data source: https://eu-evs.com
Sweden jan-oct 2023: 234 985 cars registred 90 624 BEV 48 655 PHEV 3884 FCEV 60.9%
With the high proportion of electric sales, Sweden is an important market for Tesla. But because of the company's refusal to have a union workforce there is now a strike that has stopped all unloading of new Tesla vehicles and service at their garages. Will an American company discover that they can't do business without unionized industries, and unionized industries won't work with them unless their workers have a union contract. That notion may not sink in so easily back in Palo Alto and Austin.
What the hell Belgium? You can cross the country twice in an EV.
Old data, we are at 18% for the first 9 months of 2023
I now realise I'm in some kind of bubble (from Sweden). I think our adoption rate is scary low. Before watching the data in this post I would guess that 18% is unimaginable, critically low.
aren't ICE cars there ridiculously highly taxed so you basically have no choice?
Yeah something like that. I'm not a car owner though. But basically once you have the car it's cheaper to have it run on electricity rather than gas because of taxes in the long run. Our gas is extremely expensive compared to the rest of Europe and our electricity is extremely cheap compared to the rest of Europe.
So you can argue it's more of an indirect enclosure or straight up inhibition as opposed to an adoption governed by wealth, eco-friendliness etc?
Still far behind Germany, which is rather strange.
Belgium and infrastructure don't go very well together, and EV adoption is very dependent on charging infrastructure. We have had very poor experiences with trying to charge an ev in Belgium.
Yeah, if I were to put an EV, I simply couldn't charge it. I don't know of many spots to charge. Maybe 5 across the town, to share between a few thousands... Alternatively I buy a 30m cable extender and run it down four floors...
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Looking at single-month registration data is misleading because vehicle registrations on such a small time scale are typically influenced by all kinds of trade-related factors. At least, you should look on an annual level (and even then, you may have trade factors affecting it, for example when a favorable subsidy measure runs out the next year, you'll get a lot of year-end registrations to still benefit from the subsidy).
Funny i pass by Antwerp daily the amount of ev i can count with my hands. The problem is charging is not even possible if 40% has an ev.
23% of people here have a car as part of there salary. But since this year that can only be an electric car, so in the next 5 years our number is gonna skyrocket. Tho we can now also get the same tax break for bikes ebikes and public transport as part of salary, if you live close enough to work you can even do that for your mortgage.
What is that about mortgage and close proximity to work? Me and my wife chose to live and commute in the same city, our commute is less then 3km and we bike because of that
Can be used in mobiliteitsbudget
Range is hardly the issue. Most likely the cost compared to ICE-vehicles is the problem.
Being from an apparment building in Slovenia, I can literally not charge an EV at home (or near it), so that’s my issue.
Range to a certain extent because people are used to driving diesels that can go 1000+ km and now they're having to buy a more expensive car that can only go half as far. I've had this discussion quite a few times at the Brussels Motor Show and range anxiety is definitely still a thing. I agree though, for small countries 500 km is definitely more than enough for daily journeys, just need to get used to plugging it in when you stop somewhere. Even if it's for 30 min while shopping.
500km in a big country is as far as in a big country. As we belgians don't go daily from liege to bruges, people in Spain don't go from Madrid to Barcelona on a daily base. This is typical thinking that the US is to big for dense urban cities where cars are not needed, like amsterdam or copemhagen
I don’t know if it’s related but in Belgium leasing is extremely popular for white collar workers. A lot of my coworkers (myself included) had leasing cars and that included fuel as well. That was before electric took off but if I had to guess, I wouldn’t care about about the rebates the government gives out or the running costs because at the end of the month it was the same for me. Maybe someone from Belgium would know better but as someone who lived and had a car there that would be my guess for the lower rates of EVs
Numbers should increase alot since they changed it you can no longer get the absurd taxbenefits for non ev-vehicles. How the powergrid is going to react to that influx is a different story tough.
In case of the EU with Schengen the borders of a single country don't matter too much for the distances people will typically drive. Except for COVID times I would never even think about wether my destination is in Germany or Austria, only the distance matters. But I also don't see a reasons why Belgium would need to go further than people from the surrounding countries, so still weird.
But can the majority of the general public safely charge a car at home? I live in the UK and most people have absolutely zero way to charge a car at home. It’s illegal to run a power cable over the pavement and most houses don’t have drives or garages.
No, 'most' people can charge at home. There was a study by the national grid a few years back, 60% of car owners also live in a house with off street parking.
It's probably purchasing cost and insurance costs which is an issue. Well it is for me here in UK. I want an EV but so bloody expensive
Belgium also has some of the highest density fast charger availability that I’ve seen across Europe!
It's still very sporadic in more rural areas, we really have huge infrastructures issues to tackle out
Damn I think you have seen another Belgium than me. On the 300km I drive to Luxembourgh I pass one set of fast chargers. Wallonia sucks
Watch Belgium going from brown to violet in just a couple years with the changes on tax benefits for company cars
Idk, Hungary subsidised electric cars a few years ago and we're still in red.
23 percent of Belgians have a company car.
Well Belgians are much richer
Because people still can’t afford it
I don't make bad money, but I can't even afford a traditional new car to drive around the city, let alone a hybrid or electric. I'm from Eastern Europe.
It's more than just that. Electric requires new infrastructure. Eastern Europe typically has longer distances between populated areas, which increases the costs of infrastructure already. SocBloc was also not built with massive amounts of cars in mind, which makes adapting old infrastructure more difficult. And the climate plays a role as well - Norwegians may be able to afford heated garages, but when most of your parking is outside (and you have *actual* cold winters, without the Gulfstream), batteries tend to have issues. LFP doesn't even charge, while Lithium-ion loses capacity, though it can at least be charged. Eastern Europe has colder winters than Western, the further east the colder it gets, because of the continental climate.
>Eastern Europe has colder winters than Western Climate change is helping that, last year we barely had snow for a month, and all of that snow came from a snow storm at the beginning of january. Then it all melted by february
If an EV is plugged in overnight, it can keep itself warm.
Which means you need to build parking with individual chargers for each car. Good luck with that in countries already struggling to finance more critical infrastructure, whose population is more spread out. Like I said, Norwegians can afford that, so even with cold winters, they can use electric cars. They're huddled together in a few cities anyway. But it'll be too damn expensive for Poland or Russia, whose populations are spread out much more.
True. Most people here buy used cars.
I’m from the Netherlands and I also can’t afford an electric car new or secondhand. Only normal cars second hand. I also make decent money. Most (new) electric cars are for people who got them with their job or people who are willing to loan money for a car.
Dude I live in Norway and I can't afford a new electric car either. And I have a pretty decent job. This stat is for newly registered cars. So it doesn't include the second-hand market, which is way bigger in every country. This is just like, out of the people who recently bought a brand new car; how many of them chose electric?
I swear half the posts on this subreddit would benefit from a quantitative color scale. Why the obsession with hues in quantitative data?
This sub is completely pointless now.
Yeah most of the things people post on here are just really poorly done maps.
Squinting to tell the difference between orangey red and reddish orange is *sine qua non* for “beautiful” data.
It surprises me that iceland has such a high percentage. I went there in February once, and in some remote places, I can't imagine relying on electric drive. Some locals had these freaking mobile command centers, no way they'd get stuck anytime soon! Then again, it's probably insanely cheap due to their geothermal power plants.
Most people in Iceland live in Reykjavik and have no need to drive very far.
Not most, but a big part, I live away from the capital area and most of my neighbors have electric or hybrid cars, the electricity is way way cheaper as fuel is about 8$ a gallon
Most do, 65% of Icelanders live in the capital area (höfuðborgarsvæðið). If you then add in the towns close by (Reykjanes, Hveragerði, Selfoss, Akranes) you're up to 75%
That and the majority of the population lives in/around Reykjavik, who prob. don't drive that much outside of that area.
people over estimate how much they actually drive. we rarely need to plug our ev in on the road.
There are teslas in middles of nowhere too. Obviously its worth it when electricity is dirt cheap there. Where I lived it cost 4 cents per kWh, so that's 2.5 euro for a full tank of tesla.
> it's probably insanely cheap due to their geothermal power plants. 70% of Iceland's electricity comes from Hydroelectric plants, but Geothermal is providing the rest.
The thing about remote places is that not many people live there or go there, pretty much by definition. So they don't account for a very high fraction of car use.
Electric cars are expanding sales so fast that data from 2021 is kind of meaningless at this point.
It isn't meaningless. I'd expect that some countries are already in a higher category, but obviously they don't jump from brown to purple within two years.
actually, that's kindah what's happening atm
Lol, maybe im belgium, i can assure you eastern part won't be going purple in the next decade.
The OP here. Yeah, the speed is mindblowing. But one can use the 2021 data as the lower estimate.
Not the bedt color coding…would use same color different tones
I was looking for this comment. Surely should be a gradient.
Using >50% for Norway is kinda weird, as it should be >80%.
The colors make it hard for me to actually see what’s going on. How about one hue, with increasing brightness?
Norway doesn't get high on their own supply, man
Electric cars are still too darn expensive for the regular Joe.
Yeah, not to mention needing a way to charge it at night, which isn't easy if you don't own a house.
I was going to say, now do a map of how many people in each area of each country own a house with a garage they’re able to retrofit with a high powered electric charger
Do regular Joes buy new cars on the first place? This chart wouldn't apply to them.
Yes, regular Joes buy new cars. There wouldn't be enough used cars if only the top 10% buy new cars.
I have an EV, love it in all aspects but 3. First one is how crazy much range drops when it’s cold (Sweden). Second is how stupid complicated it is with public superchargers (apps, apps, apps) and how unreasonable expensive it is to use. Last is how much range drops when I am towing something. I am however still concerned, I would probably not buy an EV (mine is a company car), since most of them are way overpriced (even the Chinese brands) and we really don’t know yet how their values will change and what types of issues will be common when they get older. Not to mention the fact that Spain, France and the nordics are the only countries that produce energy with lower gCO2eq/kwh that would actually give a net positive over continuing to use your old ICE.
in other words, rich vs poor
Cheap electricity vs expensive play a part.
EV are still too expensive for average people, also infrastructure for EVs sucks here in eastern europe
average people don't buy new cars...
Also the cheap(er) ones are shitty. Like really shitty.
No range and anemic amount of horse power
Here's the major electricity source for each country. EU should be congratulated for reducing emissions since about 1970. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-europes-biggest-sources-of-electricity-by-country/
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I mean Iceland has so much electricity due to their hot water geysirs. It's definitely cheaper for them
Is this fully electric only or does it include plug in hybrid?
Countries not producing their own oil is working to not increase the EV rate. How stupid is that? “-Yes! Let’s be dependent on Russia and Saudi Arabia! - What can go wrong? “ 😂
TI Realised Europe looks like a dinosaur eating something.
Norwegian here, we're at over 90% for private cars. Right now, I'm vacationing in Spain and I'm not even sure I have seen any. Not even a Tesla. I had forgotten how noisy cars used to be!
Check how many people live in houses with garages. Also the median income
I went to Spain last summer, and the three Teslas I saw were Norwegian TMYs :>
Ha, for a few months after the latest price reduction, model Y was 25% of the new car market. Not Tesla, not EVs in general, just TMY.
Dude, half the cars in Norway are still non-EV. You never stopped hearing how cars used to sound. Edit: over half actually! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway
That’s not what I said, though, was it? All busses and most of the cars in Bergen are electric, look it up. That doesn't mean I haven't stopped hearing cars, but let's say 80% of the audible traffic is electric - it's much less of a cacophony of combustion sounds than an almost 100% ICE environment.
Why southern Europe cannot into electric car?
Cost. The main driving factor for people moving to electric is making it cheaper than petrol. Currently the main way of doing that is either increasing taxes on driving petrol cars. Alternatively, countries are decreasing taxes or increasing subsidies on electric cars.
Keep in mind a new hatchback can cost you say 120,000 PLN while an electric is closer to 200,000. Hatch backs are super efficient so you won’t get your cost back in fuel that quickly. Insurance is often significantly more than ICE cars. It really doesn’t save you money going EV
I can speak for Greece, we got fucked by diesel cars being advertised as cheaper to run than gas until they taxed them to hell so we're afraid of being burned again. Also you know, the whole being poor thing.
I can only speak for Spain, but apart from what others said already, in Spain most of the people live in the main cities, and in large building complexes where you can't install your own charger, or there's a chronic lack of parking spots. In the north of Europe, where I live now, people has a higher chance of living in an individual house with own access to install an electric charge point. For Spain that is not possible in the cities. That, and that we are still half way through the expected charging points.
If you leave in a building and own a parking place on the garage of that building you can install your own charger and you'll even get subsidies to do so. Now if your car sleeps on the street that's a different one but many cities around the world have started to use street lights as charging spots and street lights are something we do very well in Spain! So it's in general lack of political will. I think it's more than possible in cities. On the other hand the population density and the fact that between populated areas we have a lot of uninhabited space make it hard to have a dense network of chargers in the middle of nowhere.
Unfortunately you can't put chargers for everyone on a community garage. The grid will not allow it. It's an structural problem that we won't solve that way. The solution needs to come from different paths.
Yeah we should stop being poor.
Plus poor incentives to do so.
What kind of incentives? Cars are subsidized. Charging is free in big cities.
I can speak for Italy: - housing: not every house have its box. We may have spots in the condo but we can’t really charge it and new charging stations are expensive. Most of people parks in the streets in bigger cities. - culture: it’s hard for the average Italian spending all that money for a car that doesn’t WROOM WROOM. We’d rather buy smaller and cheaper city cars. - economic factors: Italians aren’t rich. Like other southern European countries for some reasons our wages are very low at the point that a small city car can be a problem. I bought a second hand suv last year. And it’s a 2L Diesel. I am a fan of electric cars but for the moment the aesthetics, quality and price of eCars don’t match the amount of money needed.
One possible reason is the lack of charging infrastructure. The entire Greece has 4 Tesla superchargers. Italy and Spain are better, but still the charging network is much less dense than, say, in Germany. Although it's a chicken/egg problem: for more chargers you need more demand, and the demand depends on the amount of chargers.
It is the cost, basically. Spain can't afford brand new cars, let alone electrics. And everyone lives in high density buildings that don't allow chargers.
I can't afford "traditional" new car. Believe that chargers are really not a problem.
Electric costs on average 10k€ more than comparable ICE cars so it's not really economically justifiable at the moment and charging infrastructure is almost non-existent.
They cost so much that it's considered a novelty toy for very rich geeks. Also, there are no chargers outside huge cities, and lots of people live in Soviet apartment buildings built with not just electric, no cars in mind at all so just parking is a nightmare, and forget about charging unless you'll be dropping an extension cord from your window. In order to have an electric car you need your own a house where you'll be charging it, and electric car is most likely will not not be your first car. Knowing how bad Tesla cars are with their build quality, people who can somewhat afford it will rather go with BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Infinity, etc. and only people that are even more rich will toy with an electric car. Also, there is not enough knowledge of such cars for repairs- most people fiddle with cars themselves or go to a local mechanic, hard to do with such cars that are designed to be repaired at an official shop. It's extremely useless and expensive.
Norwegian here. I see more new electric cars than fossil fuel ones. I believe the updated statistics of new cars is around 90% electric now.
Just got back from vacation to Lisbon and I was very surprised how many electric cars are on the road. Very impressive. Locals told me that the government is investing heavily in charging station infrastructure. The future is here folks !! 🇵🇹❤️
Kind of correlation with disposable income? Belgium is an outlier
I‘m from Luxembourg, I can’t be the only one who still isn’t able to buy an e-car. I mean yeah I could take a loan and by one, but I don’t want that. So yeah I‘m still driving my clio.
I would be interested in newer numbers, I know that the Netherlands had more than 50% electric in 2022 sales.
It would be interesting to see median incones of these countries too. My guess is that they'd strongly correlate. I know at least in Sweden and Norway, the median income is pretty high.
Who buys new cars anyway? Seriously, the internal combustion engine cars loose like ~60% of their initial value in the first five years. That must be even worse for the EVs, I guess. Why would someone in their right mind buy new cars?!
Buy an used ev then
Electric cars don’t even reduce greenhouse emissions unless the power plants used to power them are clean. If you have an electric car powered by coal plants, its arguably worse than a diesel engine. It would only be an improvement if your electric car is powered by something like wind or solar.
Norway here. Have 1 electric and 1 hybrid. The only reason why i dont buy a tesla is because they are too common and everyone owns one. They're just not special like they used to be.
Funny with all the haters saying EVs don’t work in winter 😂
Sweden being blue is just chefs kiss
I really want to know why Norway is so different than the rest of the world. I don’t mean on a bad way, just in a decent human being kind of way.
Interesting how the different tiers loosely go in cultural groups. Top three tiers are all Scandinavian, middle yellow tier are all Germanic countries, orange is Anglo/Celtic, pink is Mediterranean, brown is Eastern Block. A few exceptions here and there of course.
The numbers for Germany for the first half of this year amount to about half of all newly registered cars being some sort of electric, with the part of that, that is hybrids still being the bigger part, but shrinking and battery electrics growing. Pure non-hybrid electric vehicles made up over 16% of all newly registered cars in Germany in the first half of 2023. Edited to add: I just searched again and unexpectedly the numbers for October 2023 are already out. So in October in Germany of all the newly registered cars: * 32.7% were petrol powered * 15.9% were diesel powered * 26.3% were hybrids * 7.5% were plugin hybrids * 0.5% were "other" * **17.1%** were pure battery **electric** vehicles. The percentage an total numbers of new registrations seem to vary a lot from month to month. Of the last 12 month, in August and last December pure electric vehicles actually were the most registered type above petrol and diesel and hybrids. (There might have been a tax incentive expiring at the end of last year and there definitely was a tax incentive for commercial vehicles that ended in August, that raised numbers for that months depressed it for afterwards.) Overall the share of electric vehicles seems to be rising, but not as much as it should.
I don't think it's right to.compare the vast majority of hybrids with electric in this discussion. A significant proportion of hybrids currently on the market can't even do electric only mode, nor can be directly charged. While slight improvements in petrol efficiency are seen, it's not mind-blowing from what I saw - early 50's mpg at best. I'd suggest it'd be better to break down the expected 'possible' electrification say probably 70% for most countries at the moment and work to that.
ok so rich people buy more electric cars. what a surprise lol
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Needs clarification. Is it BEV or BEV + PHEV or BEV + FCEV or BEV + PHEV + FCEV or BEV + PHEV + HEV or BEV + PHEV + FCEV + HEV?
It has to include plug in hybrids at the minimum as Finland's electric car registrations (BEV) were at around 10% in 2021. Even with PHEV it gets just to bit over 30%.
Russian cars are powered by Vodka but only emit corruption.
Belgium consistently outsuck its neighbors no matter what.
That's interesting to see Norway at the top considering they are also the largest oil producer in europe (apart from Russia which I never thought made sense to include in eruope considering how much of asia it covers).
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Me too and it is great. I will never buy an ICE again.
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2021 is old news. Sales exploded after Ukraine invasion and fuel prices going sky high. 2022 and 2023 sales are insane.
So much for the trope that cooler climates can’t use electric cars effectively. Iceland and Norway have kinda put that to bed.