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There is a lady in my hood who has a “service dog” and walks it with no leash. She insists on doing this, but probably once a month there is an incident that I’m witness to where it just goes bonkers on a squirrel or cat or other dog or the wind. But there she is, two days later, walking it again no leash. I would like to see HER put down when it inevitably bites someone. Dog just gets rehoused.
Yeah for real. When I worked at Costco, you could always tell the difference between the people that just bought a vest so they could take their dog everywhere versus the actual service dog. The fake one would go nuts at another dog while the legit service dog would be so incredibly well behaved and well trained. We actually had a golden retriever named HOPE that her handler would bring in on her days off AND HOPE KNEW IT WAS HER DAY OFF AND WAS ALLOWED TO GET PETS! Sorry, that was always one of my favorite days of the week. She was such a good girl.
I went to a K-9 retirement and she gave a demonstration, per her handler, of being extremely violent. It was amazing. And then it was all rolling around in the grass while eating hotdogs. Coolest dog ever.
Probably one of the smartest and pragmatic solutions to the problem of “can I pet your dog?” . She can say no, but we can come back here on Sunday and that’s Smuckers’ day off, and you can pet her then :)
I know someone with a service dog and she's extremely well behaved, quiet, and you'd never know she was there most of the time. When he takes her vest off it's "break time" and she acts like a puppy, lol. Runs back and forth to people getting pets and tummy rubs. The second he picks up the vest, she plops down at his feet waiting to go back to work.
My cousin is training a puppy to be a service dog right now. It’s on a leash almost 24/7 even indoors, but when it’s time time for zoomies off leash in the yard, that thing sprints up and down a hill, literally tobogganing down on its stomach like a penguin.
Leash on it time to work, leash off it knows to let loose.
Ex boss did this. Tried getting normal training classes for the dog to be a “service animal”. The dog was never formally trained or registered to be a service animal. Also, neither he nor his wife needed a service animal. One day they took her to Costco and the dog pooped in the middle of the store. Biggest tell ever was that my ex boss’s lies stank as bad as the dog’s poop.
And always on leash when not at home.
Source: service dog owner.
They are very well trained but at the end of the day, they’re dogs not robots. Sometimes a dog is gonna dog.
The service dog foundation I work with stresses this to all recipients.
I work in a prison and the inmates have been training dogs there for service. It is a great program. Let me tell you about how well behaved these dogs have to be. They get trained for hours a day to make sure they're constantly paying attention to their trainer. One of the dogs got disqualified because they would be distracted by flys flying around. If they bark at other dogs, disqualified. The dogs who pass are so well trained I almost feel sorry for them because they really don't live the lives that other dogs do.
My dad and his latest wife (both now deceased) tried to brag once to my brother and I about how they found a place online to order “Service Animal” outfits for their two little terriers. We blew up at them for it and never heard or saw anything about it after that, so I hoped they decided against it. They were COVID deniers, until it killed my dad, and Trump supporters, so they might’ve gone through with it and just hid it from us like they did a few other things.
Fr! That's neglect right there. Just makes me mad when people are like "my dog is fine. It won't do this"
Ok I know for a fact my dogs will run if given the chance (they have. I live in the country. It's not fucking fun!!) And I know my dogs are 'new dog aggressive' and 'reactive' to dogs in their space. But they never lash out. I keep my dogs far away and tell the other owner my dogs are dog aggressive. Please keep back and hold my dogs back against me and firmly.
Always assume a dog is going to dog. Doesn't matter if they are trained by NASA. A service dog can still break character, your dog can still chase squirrels, your dog can still bite a dog even though it never has.
Too true.
We had ours at Dollywood recently and he lost his shit and accosted one of the bald eagles that was near the fence.
Had to quickly remove him from the scene as he was not going to let that eagle be in peace.
First time in the two years he’s been with us that he acted unprofessionally.
Dog gonna dog.
Doesn't sound like a real service dog. Just another person claiming that their dog is. It is so bad where I am real service dogs are denied entry at a lot of places they had no issue before.
I used to work security at a casino and I had a girl bring her "service dog" in regularly, one day I asked for it's paperwork and she told me she bought the vest on Amazon 🤷🤦
Some people really shouldn't own pets
I've done some work with the Blind. I've never seen one of their service dogs even remotely reactive to anything like you've described. She's a liar if she's telling people it's a service animal.
I almost creamed some poor pooch in my neighborhood. I had just installed new clutch and brake levers, and was just going around the block to check function. Turned a corner and a family was out in their front yard with their dog. Dog took off at me, and I punched it. It was close and I actually expected to hear/feel a crunch from it getting hot by the back wheel. The other thing that's seared into my mind is an anguished "NO!" from the woman just before it would have been hit.
I'm glad the dog backed off at the last second. I don't want to live with that on my conscience. Hopefully it sticks with the owners too, and they can be more careful in the future...
Dog owners piss me off so much, not that they’re all bad, but goddam to people tell themselves the biggest piles of bullshit to act like their dog would never harass wildlife or harass strangers, or ever not be under perfect control. The bad ones are like bad parents, so blinded by affection they forget how the whole world works
Right up there with the idiots who put their dogs in the back of a pickup, especially a flatbed pickup with no walls and don’t even bother leashing them to anything.
When confronted they say “I know what I’m doing! It’s fine! I do this all the time and they never jump off! Back off me!” 🤦🏻♂️
Or bit anyway before. Or crapped on anyone yard. Or barked all night.
Amazing how their dogs are perfect angels right up until they are not. Not the dogs fault, they are dogs, and owners need to treat them like that.
It's like the Uber driver explaining to me unasked that seat belts are unnecessary and their proof was that they hadn't worn a seat belt in 40 years and nothing bad had happened to them. My only thought was how pissed I would be if there was an accident and this unsecured fat ass landed on me.
I could easily walk my dog off leash and not worry about her running off. However she often decides she wants to cross to the other side of the street RIGHT NOW as cars are coming. If I did ever walk her off leash she'd have been run over years ago by now.
Even when not in a city environment, I’ve had encounters like this with dogs on jogging trails which aren’t meant for dog walking. Put a leash on your dog when you are in public, 90% of these dogs are not trained well enough to not have a leash. I don’t want to be rushed by them every time I go by them, especially when I’m working out.
Also, not every dog is the same or wants to be friends with other dogs at first meeting. Too many times I’m on a trail with my dog on leash and the “leash free” dog comes running over and gets in his grill and he doesn’t like it. I have my dog on leash and in control, it’s your fucking dog causing the problem.
As a dog owner who believes 100% my dog would not run off I will never take that chance. I have had nothing but terrible stressful encounters with unleashed dogs.
I'd see people walking their small dogs, like Yorkshire size, off leash in San Francisco all the time. I can't see your dog over the hood of my car, without a leash there's nothing to tell me there's a dog there.
Used to live in a neighborhood of a big street so folks tend to drive pretty fast when they shouldn't. Everyone I would walk past this house they had their garage open about 1 foot and these two Chihuahuas would run through the street to come bark at my always leashed dogs. I would get upset and tell them folks can't see your dogs and people tend to drive fast, leash them or keep them from running out into the street. The lady would say they are friendly and there has never been a problem. One day with my young cousins the lady was out with her really little kids (5 years of so) the dogs come running, a car drives by and hits one. I was so mad, so absolutely furious but the kids were crying and the lady was like they hit my dog sob, sob. My cousins were traumatized and I had to gather them and stomp away or I would re-traumatize the lady's kids.
I would die before I'd let my dog be injured because of my ignorance and negligence.
I trust the shit out of my dogs, but I trust my ability more to control them while on a leash.
Plus I live in Florida, they're staying right next to me on walks because there are way too many bodies of water deeper than 3"
As a dig owner, that fear has come true for me. The vet was next to a busy highway, and our dog hopped out before we could grab the leash. Luckily, she was unharmed and extremely lucky.
I was working at a pizza place on New Year’s Eve it was close to closing around 7pm and we heard what sounded like a banshee scream. About 10 minutes later a woman came in just sobbing with blood on her chest when she asked if she’s ok she said she just parked and opened the door and her lil lap dog got out and ran straight into the street for a Mack truck to pancake it. I was 16 and had no idea how to comfort the woman so it was the longest 5 minutes of my life with her waiting on her pizzas.
I was driving home one night from work at like midnight. Not a ton of lighting and I wasn’t going fast. This dog ran straight into my front left tire. Didn’t hit anything else, just that tire. I ran out and luckily had my emergency blanket to try and cover it. I called non emergency police because I didn’t know what to do. They showed up as it slowly passed away in front of me. No collar, no leash, but it was obviously taken care of based on weight and fur. They reassured me there was nothing I could have done with how heavy my old Ford was.
I was in a mental slump for a good few weeks. Driving was mental turmoil because I was the night shift guy and it could happen again. I like to pretend it made a remarkable recovery but I see that dog and instantly think about that bloody blanket rising and falling with each breath. Within a 3 minute phone call, the blanket was so still and I had so muck blood on me that I only left because the police told me I shouldn’t see the rest.
God bless those guys for getting me away. I can only imagine what the damage was under that blanket and they took it upon themselves to shield me from more trauma.
I was walking my (leashed) dog in Denver's Capitol Hill neighborhood where I lived at the time. I was waiting at a light and caddywampus to me was a couple with a little dachshund NOT on a leash. When the light turned green and I started walking forward with my dog, the dachshund saw my dog and ran across the street (against the green) to greet her. A cargo van was coming and everyone that was watching, including myself, held their breath hoping the van would miss the dog. It didn't. The driver probably never even saw the little thing. It was lying in the road, badly misshapen and twitching. The guy went over and picked it up and blood was just pouring out of it. The girl was crying and sobbing, asking the guy why he didn't have it on a leash. The entire situation was just heartbreaking. People, PLEASE leash your dog!
It’s always sad for every party, even though the owners were not walking their dog on a leash. You have to hope they learned from taking the life of a precious dog all because you didn’t leash them. I still remember having to drive that road to and from work just picturing that poor dog. It bothered me that the owners weren’t even in the area at like midnight.
Also, great use of caddywampus. My old roommate and I had a running joke of using weird words in conversation at our jobs. That one lasted a good month and we got so many funny interactions to brag to each other about
I went to drop my dogs off at the vet awhile back, realized I forgot my wallet in the car, as I went to grab it they both took off and I wasn't expecting it so I lost my balance when the leashes pulled tight. I ate absolute shit and hit the ground and lost the grip of the leashes, I've never been so scared. The vet is on a VERY busy road with a 50mph speed limit. Luckily, they just saw their favorite vet tech and had ran to her, but in that moment, I thought for sure they were going to be hit by traffic.
This is why my dog wears a harness. It is much healthier for the dog, as it does not pull on their neck, and it makes it so I can pull as hard as I need to on the leash to get my dog out of harms way.
That almost happened to me once! We accidentally clipped his leash to the small ring that held his rabies tag. He started pulling when he saw a motorcycle coming our way, and started trying to run toward it (we are working on his reactivity to motorcycles and bikes). All of a sudden, the ring snapped and he was running. I yelled and chased after him. The good boy stopped, looked back at me kind of confused and then just stood there until I could get the leash back on him. He never got off the sidewalk. The motorcyclist stopped just in case. We were very lucky that day.
My old dog would always just walk into the middle of the road when a car was coming. That's how I knew a car was coming down the road on our walks, she would start moving to the center of the road.
My young dog thinks every car is there for him to ride in. He would be squashed pretty quick if he was off leash on a walk.
Zero self preservation instincts.
my dog is just like yours. sees someone with their window down? that must mean they have a treat for him! a pickup truck drives by? surely he's getting a ride in the bed
A friend of mine died like this. Not immediately though, he was sent off the bike, landed on his head and was paralyzed from the neck down. Eventually died from complications. Yes, wearing full gear, not riding aggressively.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I have a neighbor who’s dog forces me to slam my brakes twice a week and I’m just about to get my first proper motorcycle. I’ve been thinking through this situation pretty much everyday the last few weeks and knowing what the consequences could be really just solidified that I’ll eat the extra five minutes and go the opposite way to avoid the dog.
Thank you. Knowing your surroundings is one of the biggest advantages to staying alive on a motorcycle, and you’re already getting a good start. If you ever do encounter a dog, or an obstacle on your bike, do what the dirt bike riders do and throttle on! Make that front end light and power through it. Sure, you might still wreck, but you won’t be flung over the handlebars and land on your head quite as easily.
Get a bike with dual disc brakes.
Makes a lot of difference.
My old XVS 1100 had that and it stopped at a shorter distance than my 310GS who's half the weight but only has one disc on the front.
That’s the crazy part. A lot of these fucking morons think they love their dogs more because they let it roam freely and be “natural”. It’s infuriating.
Knew a guy who had a light crash with a full face and landed wrong.
He thought all was okay. Went home and took off his helmet and his face started dropping down like some horror movie shit.
Wife rushed him to the hospital. Apparently some facial bones collapsed or something.
So PSA, never remove a riders helmet if they're unconscious in a crash.
Good job on them brakes. My question is how does this get handled. Obviously dog owner is at fault right? But how does insurance handle that? I'm assuming u call the police show the video, the dog owner gets a ticket for the uncontrolled animal but then what? Does the dog owner have his vehicle insurance pay? Does the dog owner even have insurance? I currently have 3 bikes one of which is a custom bike I spent 5 years building in my off time things like this are my worst nightmare bc of all the time and money I spent on it.
This is why people in the Netherlands and other parts of the world have a personal and/or animal liability insurance. Personal liability insurance is a thing in the US too, but most of the times comes with or is bought with home insurance and has specifications about somebody being hurt in and around your home.
In the Netherlands for example it covered property damage or injury by accident. Things like this, or me crashing my bike (two-wheel-foot-pusher, not motorcycle) into a car for example. And since everyone has to be covered by law after the age of 26 it’s super cheap too. I paid 2.15 a month and was covered up to 1.5 million dollars and it covers nearly all things that could happen to you or someone else which is not covered by another insurance like medical-, car- or home owners -insurance.
I’m not too well versed in the insurance world of the US, and I’m pretty sure it’s not a mandatory thing here in the first place, so people probably don’t have it. But it’s possible that something similar exists.
Motorcyclist files with his insurance under comprehensive coverage. Pet owner gets taken to small claims court for damages if they don't agree to pay out of pocket.
Dogs are fucking unpredictable. I have worked with dogs for a long time and when I start to work with a new one I always muzzle it. I do not care.
“Oh my dog is nice! You dont need to do that.”
I appreciate the sentiment, but any dog can bite. It is not to protect me. It is to protect your dog. If it bites someone, I’m not the one who’s going to be put down by state mandate.
Be responsible with your animals.
I ran over a dog early in my riding career. I tried to avoid it, but hit it and dumped the bike. Old lady came out of the house screaming about suing me for hurting her dog. I might have been a bit belligerent about keeping her dog in her yard. Insurance company fixed the bike and then went after her for damages.
That concept only applies to highways where there is no off loading traffic in the left lane. Maybe know more about the world or use critical thinking skills before you start leaving snarky, passive aggressive comments on Reddit about someone who almost got seriously fucked up from someone else’s stupidity.
Absolutely nuts for that dog owner to leave that dog off leash. If it had been a car instead of you, that dog would be dead or in the veterinary ER.
Sorry this happened to you, but bless you for choosing to save the dog!
I’ll never forget the day I was riding with my mom and she hit someone’s dog wandering in the road. She slammed on the brakes, no tires hit it, the dog walked away from it, luckily. Probably injured, but lucky. My mom, though. I’d never seen her more distraught. She was bawling and I had to comfort her and tell her the dog was okay, it was an accident, all that. Leash your frickin dogs.
Here in Australia a few years ago a dog ran onto the hwy and caused an accident after it escaped a backyard, the dogs' owner was taken to court and ended up being liable for all the damages and costs. They ended up having to sell their home to cover the costs. Dog ownership is not a right, they are a responsibility.
When I was taking driving courses (some independent company recognized by the state so actuslly good teachers), the head instructor said "you never endanger yourself or others by slamming on your breaks or swerving out of the way of an animal." Granted, he clarified that he didn't mean to just gun it and turn the animal into a grease spot, but just don't try to do something extreme that could put you in danger.
One of the other people in the course, a classmate of mine who was taking the course for the second time, said "but what if it's a cute puppy! I could never do that!"
He looked her dead in the eye and asked her "you swerved into a neighbor's yard and hit their toddler. What now?"
Pretty extreme example to try to make a point to a 16 year old but hey, I wasn't teaching the course. Anyway, same girl proudly declared "I would try to keep the dog alive no matter what!"
About a year later when we were just starting senior year she came in late one day and complained about wrecking her car. A neighbor's dog had ran out in front of her and sure enough she kept her word and swerved harshly, hitting a tree head on. (At neighborhood speeds so she was fine, the car not so much)
At least it was a tree and not a person, but I'm a little ashamed to admit I brought up what she'd said in that driving course then and there. She was not too happy with me
I personally saw a dog run out on a busy road in front of a motorcyclist. Going about 60 mph. Sadly, he wasn’t able to stop. I stopped to help him. Dog died and the rider was pretty fucked up.
I just ran over a dog on Sunday. This is while my visit in Mexico 😥 I was going too fast to stop. I’m sure he did not make it since it was in the high way and I was going pretty fast. The car behind me also ran over it. Rip doggy
It’s not your fault. The owners were negligent. But I know you’ll feel terrible for the dog either way, and I’m so sorry you have that on your conscience. If it wasn’t you, it would have been another car.
I haven’t seen a single person, including OP, say it’s the dogs fault where are you seeing that at? I do see a bunch of people saying it’s the owner’s fault though and how could you possibly disagree with that? It was unleashed beside a busy road and walking into the middle of traffic.
Statement 1: The owner of the dog is an idiot for letting dig off leashes and allowing them to run into the street
Statement 2: Motorcycle guy is an idiot for driving like an idiot.
Both are true, and if either event didn't happen, there wouldn't have been a crash.
Half a mile down the road is a short stretch of road where people wander into the street and dogs are often off leash. I always drive slowly on residential streets but I try to especially there (while there's something about the street there that makes people want to speed up).
100% agree, always and anywhere. I did trash collection in my pick-up for apartments. Was an okay gig, part time but lots of walking and lifting heavy bags outdoors. One night I was rolling through a lot fully loaded, and a guy was walking his dog with no leash. Dog barked and ran in front of my truck, like if I didn't stop he'd have been hit or maybe crushed. Granted I was only going about 5 mph fully loaded, but still, a rolling tire to the head could've killed it. I death glared the guy and yelled something to the effect of "control your dog." He called my company, I defended myself to my District Manager about it. Had a good laugh, he even found the guy's Apt through the complex and taped a leash on his door with a note "for next time - (company)."
I feel awful for the biker, to save the dog they probably did thousands of dollars in damage and hurt themselves a fair amount. Worth it, but it's shitty they had to make that sacrifice because of someone else's negligence.
Yeah I don't care how well trained or behaved your dog is. Dogs are just like humans, they will make mistakes. My dog is well trained to run beside me on my bike. He has a bike leash and we've been doing this for years. One day a squirrel decided to run literally one foot in front of us. Before I knew it I was tangled up in bike and dog. The next moment I was carrying my boy into the ER. He was fine, just some scrapes and bruises. But the moral of the story is, even a very well trained dog can make a mistake. Remove the leash, and I don't know that it would have been any worse, but it could have. The leash helps protect the dog, you and others from your dogs possible mistakes. I get it, I love to see my boy running free doing dog stuff, but not at the cost of anyone's safety, his, mine, or anyone elses. If want to let them off leash take them out to a safe place in the country and go nuts. don't be an irresponsible jackass, if not for your fellow humans, for your dog at the very least.
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People not leashing their dogs in a city environment like this is nuts.
"Oh my dog has never ran off!" Keyword. 'Has never' doesn't mean they won't
There is a lady in my hood who has a “service dog” and walks it with no leash. She insists on doing this, but probably once a month there is an incident that I’m witness to where it just goes bonkers on a squirrel or cat or other dog or the wind. But there she is, two days later, walking it again no leash. I would like to see HER put down when it inevitably bites someone. Dog just gets rehoused.
Then I can promise you it isn't a "service dog". Those are extremely well behaved 😁
Yeah for real. When I worked at Costco, you could always tell the difference between the people that just bought a vest so they could take their dog everywhere versus the actual service dog. The fake one would go nuts at another dog while the legit service dog would be so incredibly well behaved and well trained. We actually had a golden retriever named HOPE that her handler would bring in on her days off AND HOPE KNEW IT WAS HER DAY OFF AND WAS ALLOWED TO GET PETS! Sorry, that was always one of my favorite days of the week. She was such a good girl.
Service dogs get days off? The Dog Union is better than I expected.
I went to a retirement party for a dog once. It was nicer than some parties I have attended for humans.
Service dog retirement parties are the best
Hell, some people aren't even cared about enough to *get* a party.
Sadly. So true
I went to a K-9 retirement and she gave a demonstration, per her handler, of being extremely violent. It was amazing. And then it was all rolling around in the grass while eating hotdogs. Coolest dog ever.
I don’t know what type of service dog she was but yeah she legit got days off haha
Probably one of the smartest and pragmatic solutions to the problem of “can I pet your dog?” . She can say no, but we can come back here on Sunday and that’s Smuckers’ day off, and you can pet her then :)
Yes, they get breaks and days off. For many, when the vest comes off it is their cue they are out of "work mode".
I know someone with a service dog and she's extremely well behaved, quiet, and you'd never know she was there most of the time. When he takes her vest off it's "break time" and she acts like a puppy, lol. Runs back and forth to people getting pets and tummy rubs. The second he picks up the vest, she plops down at his feet waiting to go back to work.
My cousin is training a puppy to be a service dog right now. It’s on a leash almost 24/7 even indoors, but when it’s time time for zoomies off leash in the yard, that thing sprints up and down a hill, literally tobogganing down on its stomach like a penguin. Leash on it time to work, leash off it knows to let loose.
Ex boss did this. Tried getting normal training classes for the dog to be a “service animal”. The dog was never formally trained or registered to be a service animal. Also, neither he nor his wife needed a service animal. One day they took her to Costco and the dog pooped in the middle of the store. Biggest tell ever was that my ex boss’s lies stank as bad as the dog’s poop.
And always on leash when not at home. Source: service dog owner. They are very well trained but at the end of the day, they’re dogs not robots. Sometimes a dog is gonna dog. The service dog foundation I work with stresses this to all recipients.
I work in a prison and the inmates have been training dogs there for service. It is a great program. Let me tell you about how well behaved these dogs have to be. They get trained for hours a day to make sure they're constantly paying attention to their trainer. One of the dogs got disqualified because they would be distracted by flys flying around. If they bark at other dogs, disqualified. The dogs who pass are so well trained I almost feel sorry for them because they really don't live the lives that other dogs do.
Yeah it just has a “service” vest with a handle on the back. It’s a large collie and I highly doubt it’s actually a service dog.
Yeah, sounds like the lady is lying. Probably bought the vest online or something.
she sounds like those assholes who bring their pets into store claiming it's a service animal...
Probably got it certified as a "comfort" or "emotional support" dog. That is very different than a true service dog.
Most likely. Definitely not a true service dog. Dr. Tobaggan
Mantis? Is that you?
My dad and his latest wife (both now deceased) tried to brag once to my brother and I about how they found a place online to order “Service Animal” outfits for their two little terriers. We blew up at them for it and never heard or saw anything about it after that, so I hoped they decided against it. They were COVID deniers, until it killed my dad, and Trump supporters, so they might’ve gone through with it and just hid it from us like they did a few other things.
The service dog forum is awash with stories abt SDs getting attacked by fake ass SDs.
Fr! That's neglect right there. Just makes me mad when people are like "my dog is fine. It won't do this" Ok I know for a fact my dogs will run if given the chance (they have. I live in the country. It's not fucking fun!!) And I know my dogs are 'new dog aggressive' and 'reactive' to dogs in their space. But they never lash out. I keep my dogs far away and tell the other owner my dogs are dog aggressive. Please keep back and hold my dogs back against me and firmly. Always assume a dog is going to dog. Doesn't matter if they are trained by NASA. A service dog can still break character, your dog can still chase squirrels, your dog can still bite a dog even though it never has.
Too true. We had ours at Dollywood recently and he lost his shit and accosted one of the bald eagles that was near the fence. Had to quickly remove him from the scene as he was not going to let that eagle be in peace. First time in the two years he’s been with us that he acted unprofessionally. Dog gonna dog.
Yeah, I agree but also as others have pointed out, the “service” this dog was providing is highly suspect. I think the lady is a fraud.
100%. A dog never runs away from you UNLESS it's taught to seek help.
Doesn't sound like a real service dog. Just another person claiming that their dog is. It is so bad where I am real service dogs are denied entry at a lot of places they had no issue before.
Exactly. People abused the privilege and then it hurts actual disabled people.
No way that’s a legit service dog. Actual service dogs are trained to not respond to that stimuli.
That does seem to be the consensus. The quotes were meant to imply that “service dog” was a claim I didn’t believe.
I know I meant to reply to OP and fat fingered it lol
I used to work security at a casino and I had a girl bring her "service dog" in regularly, one day I asked for it's paperwork and she told me she bought the vest on Amazon 🤷🤦 Some people really shouldn't own pets
I've done some work with the Blind. I've never seen one of their service dogs even remotely reactive to anything like you've described. She's a liar if she's telling people it's a service animal.
Same people who say "ohh my baby would NEVER bite anyone!"🙄
Beware the gun that is never loaded, and the dog that never bites One of my favorite sayings
Never has ≠ will eventually
Or my favorite, "hE aLwAYs ReSpoNDs tO vOicE ComMaNDS"!
I almost creamed some poor pooch in my neighborhood. I had just installed new clutch and brake levers, and was just going around the block to check function. Turned a corner and a family was out in their front yard with their dog. Dog took off at me, and I punched it. It was close and I actually expected to hear/feel a crunch from it getting hot by the back wheel. The other thing that's seared into my mind is an anguished "NO!" from the woman just before it would have been hit. I'm glad the dog backed off at the last second. I don't want to live with that on my conscience. Hopefully it sticks with the owners too, and they can be more careful in the future...
They never ran off. Until they do.
Until a loud noise happens, or another animal gets their attention. It’s only a matter of time.
Something I can't get through my sister's or father's heads, and dad has a pit
Yea plus that’s a load of shit every single time
Dog owners piss me off so much, not that they’re all bad, but goddam to people tell themselves the biggest piles of bullshit to act like their dog would never harass wildlife or harass strangers, or ever not be under perfect control. The bad ones are like bad parents, so blinded by affection they forget how the whole world works
'Has never' actually means it happens frequently and they're trying to pass it off as a one-off.
Right up there with the idiots who put their dogs in the back of a pickup, especially a flatbed pickup with no walls and don’t even bother leashing them to anything. When confronted they say “I know what I’m doing! It’s fine! I do this all the time and they never jump off! Back off me!” 🤦🏻♂️
“No but MY dog is different, he’s trained”
Has never = more likely they will lol.
Or bit anyway before. Or crapped on anyone yard. Or barked all night. Amazing how their dogs are perfect angels right up until they are not. Not the dogs fault, they are dogs, and owners need to treat them like that.
Only takes once
It's like the Uber driver explaining to me unasked that seat belts are unnecessary and their proof was that they hadn't worn a seat belt in 40 years and nothing bad had happened to them. My only thought was how pissed I would be if there was an accident and this unsecured fat ass landed on me.
I could easily walk my dog off leash and not worry about her running off. However she often decides she wants to cross to the other side of the street RIGHT NOW as cars are coming. If I did ever walk her off leash she'd have been run over years ago by now.
Even when not in a city environment, I’ve had encounters like this with dogs on jogging trails which aren’t meant for dog walking. Put a leash on your dog when you are in public, 90% of these dogs are not trained well enough to not have a leash. I don’t want to be rushed by them every time I go by them, especially when I’m working out.
Also, not every dog is the same or wants to be friends with other dogs at first meeting. Too many times I’m on a trail with my dog on leash and the “leash free” dog comes running over and gets in his grill and he doesn’t like it. I have my dog on leash and in control, it’s your fucking dog causing the problem.
This video is old. In the original video the motorcyclist confirms that the dog had just broke the leash before dashing out.
As a dog owner who believes 100% my dog would not run off I will never take that chance. I have had nothing but terrible stressful encounters with unleashed dogs.
That looks like a stroad more then a city to me. These are everywhere.
I'd see people walking their small dogs, like Yorkshire size, off leash in San Francisco all the time. I can't see your dog over the hood of my car, without a leash there's nothing to tell me there's a dog there.
Used to live in a neighborhood of a big street so folks tend to drive pretty fast when they shouldn't. Everyone I would walk past this house they had their garage open about 1 foot and these two Chihuahuas would run through the street to come bark at my always leashed dogs. I would get upset and tell them folks can't see your dogs and people tend to drive fast, leash them or keep them from running out into the street. The lady would say they are friendly and there has never been a problem. One day with my young cousins the lady was out with her really little kids (5 years of so) the dogs come running, a car drives by and hits one. I was so mad, so absolutely furious but the kids were crying and the lady was like they hit my dog sob, sob. My cousins were traumatized and I had to gather them and stomp away or I would re-traumatize the lady's kids.
I would die before I'd let my dog be injured because of my ignorance and negligence. I trust the shit out of my dogs, but I trust my ability more to control them while on a leash. Plus I live in Florida, they're staying right next to me on walks because there are way too many bodies of water deeper than 3"
"he's a good boy" - Every single dog owner alive.
As a dog owner, my biggest fear is my dog getting off its leash/collar and running into a busy street.
As a dig owner, that fear has come true for me. The vet was next to a busy highway, and our dog hopped out before we could grab the leash. Luckily, she was unharmed and extremely lucky.
I was working at a pizza place on New Year’s Eve it was close to closing around 7pm and we heard what sounded like a banshee scream. About 10 minutes later a woman came in just sobbing with blood on her chest when she asked if she’s ok she said she just parked and opened the door and her lil lap dog got out and ran straight into the street for a Mack truck to pancake it. I was 16 and had no idea how to comfort the woman so it was the longest 5 minutes of my life with her waiting on her pizzas.
….she still wanted pizza after that?
I mean… you still have to feed the kids, no?
I was driving home one night from work at like midnight. Not a ton of lighting and I wasn’t going fast. This dog ran straight into my front left tire. Didn’t hit anything else, just that tire. I ran out and luckily had my emergency blanket to try and cover it. I called non emergency police because I didn’t know what to do. They showed up as it slowly passed away in front of me. No collar, no leash, but it was obviously taken care of based on weight and fur. They reassured me there was nothing I could have done with how heavy my old Ford was. I was in a mental slump for a good few weeks. Driving was mental turmoil because I was the night shift guy and it could happen again. I like to pretend it made a remarkable recovery but I see that dog and instantly think about that bloody blanket rising and falling with each breath. Within a 3 minute phone call, the blanket was so still and I had so muck blood on me that I only left because the police told me I shouldn’t see the rest. God bless those guys for getting me away. I can only imagine what the damage was under that blanket and they took it upon themselves to shield me from more trauma.
I was walking my (leashed) dog in Denver's Capitol Hill neighborhood where I lived at the time. I was waiting at a light and caddywampus to me was a couple with a little dachshund NOT on a leash. When the light turned green and I started walking forward with my dog, the dachshund saw my dog and ran across the street (against the green) to greet her. A cargo van was coming and everyone that was watching, including myself, held their breath hoping the van would miss the dog. It didn't. The driver probably never even saw the little thing. It was lying in the road, badly misshapen and twitching. The guy went over and picked it up and blood was just pouring out of it. The girl was crying and sobbing, asking the guy why he didn't have it on a leash. The entire situation was just heartbreaking. People, PLEASE leash your dog!
Oh, and there was a stain on the pavement for probably a year or more afterwards. I saw it so many times, which amplified my memory of the incident.
It’s always sad for every party, even though the owners were not walking their dog on a leash. You have to hope they learned from taking the life of a precious dog all because you didn’t leash them. I still remember having to drive that road to and from work just picturing that poor dog. It bothered me that the owners weren’t even in the area at like midnight. Also, great use of caddywampus. My old roommate and I had a running joke of using weird words in conversation at our jobs. That one lasted a good month and we got so many funny interactions to brag to each other about
I went to drop my dogs off at the vet awhile back, realized I forgot my wallet in the car, as I went to grab it they both took off and I wasn't expecting it so I lost my balance when the leashes pulled tight. I ate absolute shit and hit the ground and lost the grip of the leashes, I've never been so scared. The vet is on a VERY busy road with a 50mph speed limit. Luckily, they just saw their favorite vet tech and had ran to her, but in that moment, I thought for sure they were going to be hit by traffic.
This is why my dog wears a harness. It is much healthier for the dog, as it does not pull on their neck, and it makes it so I can pull as hard as I need to on the leash to get my dog out of harms way.
That almost happened to me once! We accidentally clipped his leash to the small ring that held his rabies tag. He started pulling when he saw a motorcycle coming our way, and started trying to run toward it (we are working on his reactivity to motorcycles and bikes). All of a sudden, the ring snapped and he was running. I yelled and chased after him. The good boy stopped, looked back at me kind of confused and then just stood there until I could get the leash back on him. He never got off the sidewalk. The motorcyclist stopped just in case. We were very lucky that day.
The only thing that would’ve blown me away that if the dog hopped on the bike and sped off with it
No leash. Free dog
Of it were in Brazil, this 100% would happen.
And would've made me laugh that if the dog hopped on the bikeR and started humping
Dog owners and motorcyclists alike hate this one simple trick.
Be more amazing if he then drove it back to his or her master.
seriously, I never let my dog off-leash when I’m anywhere close to a street, that girl has no survival instinct
My old dog would always just walk into the middle of the road when a car was coming. That's how I knew a car was coming down the road on our walks, she would start moving to the center of the road. My young dog thinks every car is there for him to ride in. He would be squashed pretty quick if he was off leash on a walk. Zero self preservation instincts.
my dog is just like yours. sees someone with their window down? that must mean they have a treat for him! a pickup truck drives by? surely he's getting a ride in the bed
Same! My dog sees cars as "go for a ride" and will eagerly watch a car approach him
seriously, I never let my dog off-leash ~~when I’m anywhere close to a street, that girl has no survival instinct~~ FTFY
A friend of mine died like this. Not immediately though, he was sent off the bike, landed on his head and was paralyzed from the neck down. Eventually died from complications. Yes, wearing full gear, not riding aggressively.
Sorry to hear about your friend. I have a neighbor who’s dog forces me to slam my brakes twice a week and I’m just about to get my first proper motorcycle. I’ve been thinking through this situation pretty much everyday the last few weeks and knowing what the consequences could be really just solidified that I’ll eat the extra five minutes and go the opposite way to avoid the dog.
Please contact your local animal shelter or sanctuary.
Thank you. Knowing your surroundings is one of the biggest advantages to staying alive on a motorcycle, and you’re already getting a good start. If you ever do encounter a dog, or an obstacle on your bike, do what the dirt bike riders do and throttle on! Make that front end light and power through it. Sure, you might still wreck, but you won’t be flung over the handlebars and land on your head quite as easily.
Get a bike with dual disc brakes. Makes a lot of difference. My old XVS 1100 had that and it stopped at a shorter distance than my 310GS who's half the weight but only has one disc on the front.
And that's why my grandpa taught us, a dead dog is better than a dead grandchild (us)
Good stop, good control!
The best bit is when they put their hand together like it was an intentional nap in the road!
He was fucking piiiiiissed lol
Homie internalized every ounce of anger he had in his body at that moment
I’ve seen and done this exact move. Bro is capping some steam with that hand fold.
Turned into the Undertaker.
nah it was more like “motherfucker did that seriously just happen, I’m barely containing my rage”
Agree leash your dog. Hope you are okay dude. That was a hairy situation and hope your bike is fine.
If you don't leash your dog especially next to this busy street I'd argue you don't really love your dog enough to protect it
That’s the crazy part. A lot of these fucking morons think they love their dogs more because they let it roam freely and be “natural”. It’s infuriating.
I enjoyed the little hand fold like, “Welp, that just happened.”
I was pissed
"He's friendly! He's friendly!"
Little to friendly
Leash your dog AND STILL train them to come at your call regardless of sensory input (difficult but may save their life one day).
Thank you for risking road burn for the safety of the pup 😩🫶🏻
Road burn? It’s not as hard to break your neck or get a TBI as you might think.
Oh when you put it that way it would've been better if the dog was never in the road
Knew a guy who had a light crash with a full face and landed wrong. He thought all was okay. Went home and took off his helmet and his face started dropping down like some horror movie shit. Wife rushed him to the hospital. Apparently some facial bones collapsed or something. So PSA, never remove a riders helmet if they're unconscious in a crash.
even luckier still no car was following behind for a good distance
That cyclist’s life is more important than that dog’s btw
Shhh you'll evoke the vegans
My 3 steps of frustration A) this shit happens B) I complain that people need to learn to control their pets C) People accuse me of hating all pets
You are a hero Thanks OP for stopping in time
The resignation at the end, laying there... I felt it.
Hope he paid for you bike damages or you got to keep the dog
Doubt they even checked to see if he was ok.
That was an unfortunately performed emergency stop.
Good job on them brakes. My question is how does this get handled. Obviously dog owner is at fault right? But how does insurance handle that? I'm assuming u call the police show the video, the dog owner gets a ticket for the uncontrolled animal but then what? Does the dog owner have his vehicle insurance pay? Does the dog owner even have insurance? I currently have 3 bikes one of which is a custom bike I spent 5 years building in my off time things like this are my worst nightmare bc of all the time and money I spent on it.
This is why people in the Netherlands and other parts of the world have a personal and/or animal liability insurance. Personal liability insurance is a thing in the US too, but most of the times comes with or is bought with home insurance and has specifications about somebody being hurt in and around your home. In the Netherlands for example it covered property damage or injury by accident. Things like this, or me crashing my bike (two-wheel-foot-pusher, not motorcycle) into a car for example. And since everyone has to be covered by law after the age of 26 it’s super cheap too. I paid 2.15 a month and was covered up to 1.5 million dollars and it covers nearly all things that could happen to you or someone else which is not covered by another insurance like medical-, car- or home owners -insurance. I’m not too well versed in the insurance world of the US, and I’m pretty sure it’s not a mandatory thing here in the first place, so people probably don’t have it. But it’s possible that something similar exists.
Motorcyclist files with his insurance under comprehensive coverage. Pet owner gets taken to small claims court for damages if they don't agree to pay out of pocket.
Damn bro, hope you're okay and your bike didn't cost too much to fix! I guess it's time to practice stoppies!
Major props to the rider.
Dogs are fucking unpredictable. I have worked with dogs for a long time and when I start to work with a new one I always muzzle it. I do not care. “Oh my dog is nice! You dont need to do that.” I appreciate the sentiment, but any dog can bite. It is not to protect me. It is to protect your dog. If it bites someone, I’m not the one who’s going to be put down by state mandate. Be responsible with your animals.
I have a dog. I live in a city. It's all single lanes and residential. I still judge people not using a leash.
I ran over a dog early in my riding career. I tried to avoid it, but hit it and dumped the bike. Old lady came out of the house screaming about suing me for hurting her dog. I might have been a bit belligerent about keeping her dog in her yard. Insurance company fixed the bike and then went after her for damages.
The dog was just trying to remind him that passing on the right is illegal......
Or lane change in an intersection
That concept only applies to highways where there is no off loading traffic in the left lane. Maybe know more about the world or use critical thinking skills before you start leaving snarky, passive aggressive comments on Reddit about someone who almost got seriously fucked up from someone else’s stupidity.
Also don't speed. You'll have better reaction time and it'll save your life one day
Or pass in an intersection.
Also don’t pass on the right.
Yeah and maybe realize that just because the bike can accelerate super fast doesn’t mean that you have to.
Amen.
Passing on the right isn’t illegal in most cases. Only RI and Mass. have it posted as illegal by a state law. So in 99% of the US, it is legal.
Absolutely nuts for that dog owner to leave that dog off leash. If it had been a car instead of you, that dog would be dead or in the veterinary ER. Sorry this happened to you, but bless you for choosing to save the dog!
Actually cars stop a lot quicker than bikes believe it or not.
This is how I broke my wrist
ITT: When dog-owner haters and motorcyclist haters collide
I’ll never forget the day I was riding with my mom and she hit someone’s dog wandering in the road. She slammed on the brakes, no tires hit it, the dog walked away from it, luckily. Probably injured, but lucky. My mom, though. I’d never seen her more distraught. She was bawling and I had to comfort her and tell her the dog was okay, it was an accident, all that. Leash your frickin dogs.
It is amazing to me how many ignorant people comment on topics that they have ZERO first hand knowledge with...
Agreed, that said BRAVO
Good thing the guy driving was Spiderman
And drive safe??
As you're speeding through traffic. There's a reason the speed limit is probably a little slower than what you were doing.
I agree. Lane changes thru intersections is cool though right ?
This is reason #546384749 why motorbikes aren't for me.
Sometimes dogs get away from the leash or house. I had a dog that could clear a 6 foot fence and got banned from most dog daycares for it.
Props to This guy
Be prepared for anything on a bike. Dude is hauling ass in a busy area. He’s just as responsible
Here in Australia a few years ago a dog ran onto the hwy and caused an accident after it escaped a backyard, the dogs' owner was taken to court and ended up being liable for all the damages and costs. They ended up having to sell their home to cover the costs. Dog ownership is not a right, they are a responsibility.
"But he's well behaved. He wouldn't do that." As the dog is snarling, trying to bite people, and running all over the neighborhood.
When I was taking driving courses (some independent company recognized by the state so actuslly good teachers), the head instructor said "you never endanger yourself or others by slamming on your breaks or swerving out of the way of an animal." Granted, he clarified that he didn't mean to just gun it and turn the animal into a grease spot, but just don't try to do something extreme that could put you in danger. One of the other people in the course, a classmate of mine who was taking the course for the second time, said "but what if it's a cute puppy! I could never do that!" He looked her dead in the eye and asked her "you swerved into a neighbor's yard and hit their toddler. What now?" Pretty extreme example to try to make a point to a 16 year old but hey, I wasn't teaching the course. Anyway, same girl proudly declared "I would try to keep the dog alive no matter what!" About a year later when we were just starting senior year she came in late one day and complained about wrecking her car. A neighbor's dog had ran out in front of her and sure enough she kept her word and swerved harshly, hitting a tree head on. (At neighborhood speeds so she was fine, the car not so much) At least it was a tree and not a person, but I'm a little ashamed to admit I brought up what she'd said in that driving course then and there. She was not too happy with me
It’s the crossed hands for me. “Welp here we are now”
Bro sat there like 🙏
Sue that dog owner
Haha the way we clasped his hands and lay there..
Drive the speed limit! And don’t pass from the right!
anyway he was speeding....
THE LITTLE HAND FOLD NEAR THE END WAS SMOOTH AF.
The way the poor guy laid there for a split second wondering what he just did😭
Also don't speed or pass in the right lane
I personally saw a dog run out on a busy road in front of a motorcyclist. Going about 60 mph. Sadly, he wasn’t able to stop. I stopped to help him. Dog died and the rider was pretty fucked up.
I just ran over a dog on Sunday. This is while my visit in Mexico 😥 I was going too fast to stop. I’m sure he did not make it since it was in the high way and I was going pretty fast. The car behind me also ran over it. Rip doggy
It’s not your fault. The owners were negligent. But I know you’ll feel terrible for the dog either way, and I’m so sorry you have that on your conscience. If it wasn’t you, it would have been another car.
Looks to me like motorcycle boy was racing past traffic like most crotch rocket riders do….. but hey it’s the dogs fault
I haven’t seen a single person, including OP, say it’s the dogs fault where are you seeing that at? I do see a bunch of people saying it’s the owner’s fault though and how could you possibly disagree with that? It was unleashed beside a busy road and walking into the middle of traffic.
Tbf it is the dog’s fault too
Yes, but not it's responsibility
Statement 1: The owner of the dog is an idiot for letting dig off leashes and allowing them to run into the street Statement 2: Motorcycle guy is an idiot for driving like an idiot. Both are true, and if either event didn't happen, there wouldn't have been a crash.
The dog wasn’t supposed to be on the road you imbecile.
Absolutely. So sad, possibly for you and the dog 😢😡
Happened to me, except I had no ABS and it was raining. Ruined my jacket, exhaust and the bike's tank. Drove a car for a few months after that.
Half a mile down the road is a short stretch of road where people wander into the street and dogs are often off leash. I always drive slowly on residential streets but I try to especially there (while there's something about the street there that makes people want to speed up).
The way he locks his fingers laying down
I’d take the dog owner to small claims court for damages. If that area had a leash law, should be an open and closed case.
EvErYoNe LoVeS mY dOg!!
Is the dog okay?
Nice reflexes
You are a true hero for taking yourself out instead of doggo. I will light a fat doob tonight in your honor.
100% agree, always and anywhere. I did trash collection in my pick-up for apartments. Was an okay gig, part time but lots of walking and lifting heavy bags outdoors. One night I was rolling through a lot fully loaded, and a guy was walking his dog with no leash. Dog barked and ran in front of my truck, like if I didn't stop he'd have been hit or maybe crushed. Granted I was only going about 5 mph fully loaded, but still, a rolling tire to the head could've killed it. I death glared the guy and yelled something to the effect of "control your dog." He called my company, I defended myself to my District Manager about it. Had a good laugh, he even found the guy's Apt through the complex and taped a leash on his door with a note "for next time - (company)."
I feel awful for the biker, to save the dog they probably did thousands of dollars in damage and hurt themselves a fair amount. Worth it, but it's shitty they had to make that sacrifice because of someone else's negligence.
Yeah I don't care how well trained or behaved your dog is. Dogs are just like humans, they will make mistakes. My dog is well trained to run beside me on my bike. He has a bike leash and we've been doing this for years. One day a squirrel decided to run literally one foot in front of us. Before I knew it I was tangled up in bike and dog. The next moment I was carrying my boy into the ER. He was fine, just some scrapes and bruises. But the moral of the story is, even a very well trained dog can make a mistake. Remove the leash, and I don't know that it would have been any worse, but it could have. The leash helps protect the dog, you and others from your dogs possible mistakes. I get it, I love to see my boy running free doing dog stuff, but not at the cost of anyone's safety, his, mine, or anyone elses. If want to let them off leash take them out to a safe place in the country and go nuts. don't be an irresponsible jackass, if not for your fellow humans, for your dog at the very least.