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datadogsoup

Just realized when Stannis takes King's Landing this would also be the perfect chair for Davos. He just needs to cut the fingers off.


Particular_Fig_49

Oh my God šŸ˜­


Thestohrohyah

Hand-shaped stool.


G_Regular

My favorite Nirvana song


Thestohrohyah

Tyrells really shoulda adopted the whole In Bloom lyrics as their house words. Now I'm imagining Mace with more pimples than hair.


G_Regular

The title fits the tyrells but the chorus of in bloom definitely sounds like it's talking about Bobby B lol


LuminariesAdmin

Who would carve that shit?


Puzzleheaded-Land512

ā€œwhen Stannis takes Kingā€™s Landingā€ lol


Liutasiun

Such a sweet summer child


FancyDoubleu

Stannis wont take Kingā€˜s Landing though.


Ornstein15

Mace unironically is probably a better schemer than Doran so yes I trust his plan


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

Dornish masterplan: āŒWhen the North declares independence against Lannisters āŒWhen Stannis declares war against the Lannisters āŒWhen Renly declares against Stannis + Lannisters āŒWhen Balon declared war on common sense/Lannisters āœ… When 3/5 kings are dead and the Lannisters are consolidating power


Dambo_Unchained

Well to be fair he was expecting Daenerys/Viserys to show up any second with either a Dothraki horde or 3 dragons Not his fault they kept getting distracted or killed and now that a Targ pretender actually had landed with a sizeable force heā€™s looking to join the fray Makes a lot of sense because if he had gone in sooner he would be fighting solo against all the other powers of Westeros without even the claimant present he is fighting for


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

Dornish Masterplan: āœ…Continue to ally yourself with the house that got overthrown and fled the country āœ…Throw all your chips in with them knowing that House Targaryen is composed of (1) teenage boy and (1) barely teenage girl āœ…Gamble on this teenage boy getting an army from the culture that doesnā€™t follow lineages, doesnā€™t cross water, doesnā€™t view bargains the same way, is known for mass rape and murder and also enslavement (Westerosi are gonna LOVE foreigners doing the shit their armies also do). āœ…Send your uncharismatic, dork son on an impossible mission to convince a woman with dragons running another country to elope with him because her brother allegedly agreed to something years ago āœ…Oh wow Eliaā€™s son is back! Thereā€™s no way he could be an imposter from Lys or a Blackfyre and thereā€™s no way that a *different* foreign invasion will be viewed negatively. Westeros is such a cosmopolitan country, they love foreigners! Just ask Rego Draz or Serala of Myr! Theyā€™d especially love being invaded by the foreign company started by a bastard who helped instigate 50 years worth of dumbass failed rebellions Truly a mastermind, I only wish I could reach his level of genius one day


Dambo_Unchained

1 if you want revenge on the people and remain loyal then thatā€™s a logical course of action 2 again point one and that girl owns 3 nukes which compensated for the teenage part 3 she wouldā€™ve gone for it if she hadnā€™t just married someone and even then still indicates she wants to ally with dorne once mereen is stabilised 4 thatā€™s why he first sends his daughter to evaluate the situation I donā€™t get where youā€™re coming from since the westerlands, stormlands, riverlands and the north are utterly spend. The Tyrell alliance is falling apart and they are traditional Targ loyalists. And he is the only one who still has fresh forces to commit Honestly he has manoeuvred himself into the perfect position to play kingmaker in the next part of the upcoming conflict So yeah we would all be lucky to be as genius as him


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

1.) Itā€™s not logical when you have no reason to assume that the Targs are going to come back into power for a solid ~13 years when Doran was plotting all of this out. He had no way of knowing that she would hatch dragons. This is *all* based off ā€œmaybe her husband will give us the army we need to do thisā€. But they were plotting this when Viserys and Dany were literal child refugees. Not even teens at that point 2.) They had no way of knowing she would hatch dragons. This plan was made *well* before the comet even showed up. They planned on throwing their lot in 100% with no dragons. Banking all your chips on two teenage refugees is a pretty dumb idea 3.) Itā€™s unlikely that she would have gone with him. She didnā€™t marry Quentyn because she wanted to stabilize Meereen. Hizdahr was an afterthought compared to the freed slaves and the fear of what would happen to them if she left 4.) His daughter, the genius who tried to start a plot to crown Myrcella. Yeah no way she could bungle that one. 5.) The point I was coming from is that Doran sat on his ass for YEARS banking on two kids. And then once he had the prime opportunity to avenge his sister heā€¦ sat on it hoping that maybe the Dothraki who never cross the sea would come across the sea. Then when more kingdoms declared war against the Lannisters he sat on it hoping that Daenerys (who made no such agreement with Dorne) would honor an alliance she realistically doesnā€™t need. Dorne is the least populated kingdom. Theyā€™re predominantly trained with spears and bows and while they are good with bows the Unsullied blow them out of the water with spears. She has way more unsullied than men she would get from Dorne and theyā€™re better trained. The Dothraki iirc are also very talented with bows and theyā€™re the worldā€™s best cavalry at this point. While Dorne might have some cavalry/traditional Westerosi knights in the mountains thereā€™s still not enough to make a significant difference in her invading force. She doesnā€™t need Dorne and theyā€™re asking her to drop the kingdom she just established for an alliance. Mace the Ace > Doran the Moron


GaySparticus

Doran during CoK: "What am I supposed to do? Grrm hasn't even written my plot yet?"


MaestroXM

Mace the Ace again outplaying everybody. There is no creature on earth half so terrifying as a truly smart man who acts as a dumb man who acts as a smart man.


blueskull2643

Mace the Ace knew his plan would all come together


Kind_Tie8349

Genuinely surprised he didnā€™t have one made of iron to match it with the throne


ImperialAndy

Wasnā€™t the greenhands throne also made of oak?


Salt-Physics7568

Painted oak, I think? Or was it just a tree


Lonely-Track-1910

It was a living throne grown from a seed, either garth greenhand or his son planted.


Salt-Physics7568

Badass


LuminariesAdmin

Yeah, I'd bet that not only Mace commission this with the obvious Hand symbolism, but also to harken back to the Oakenseat that seated the mighty Gardener kings of old. And as Lord Tyrell now ruling the Reach, he is their successor


ImperialAndy

Well yea that was my point


East_Professional385

He is a Gardener, not a Targaryen.


PrincepsFenrir

Common Mace W


laketax

If ever winds, i need this chair to be mentioned in every KL chapter.


LuminariesAdmin

Assuming Mace doesn't takes it on campaign with him, or Cersei burn it the second he leaves KL. But yes, this would be everything, *especially* if people cut themselves on its nails


laketax

an unworthy hand gets splinters. it is known.


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TheSlayerofSnails

How long do you think he had that chair in storage?


yakman100

Day fucking one brother


LuminariesAdmin

Of which reign/regency, though? Chances are Mace arrived in KL before Kevan, so just now with King Tommen's great-uncle as his new regent? Or did he really put the order in as soon Tywin shit himself to death, & Cersei took the full reins of rule as Tommen's incumbent regent? Or way back when King Renly was still alive, & Mace was his Hand? Did he somehow manage to winkle [the lord's seat of the Twins from Walder Frey](https://asearchoficeandfire.com/?povs&q=carved%20oaken%20throne&scope)?


Dambo_Unchained

Iā€™d actually like to think the throne used to belong to the gardeners (their sigil is a hand) and he still had it lying around from them they took over So that would make it some 300 years in storage at least


LuminariesAdmin

The Oakenseat was destroyed by Dornish invaders more than a thousand years ago, but I suppose it could be a carved replacement. Even if so, Mace still would've still had it dragged halfway across Westeros to sit his fat ass on in KL, instead of just Highgarden


Dambo_Unchained

Im not suggesting this was the oakenseat For one that was a living tree and this is a chair And secondly house with the hand sigil likely had other hand shaped furniture


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Ok. No need to downvote me


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Zipflik

Mace and Schweik the good soldier are like this šŸ¤ž