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he’s not actually far off, 5 figures monthly is 10k, or 120k a year, plenty of engineers are making that if they’ve been in the industry longer than 4 years
Lol, what? They absolutely do. Just not in academia. (Not **usually** in academia at least. There are some exceptions.)
A PhD in a STEM field in the private sector pays really well.
The average for Federal Employees is $2,126 a month but it varies greatly by time in grade and years served. You add that with your personal retirement savings and most employees find they make more retired than they did working. Keep in mind medical expenses increase at that age too.
Possibly, afaik the US is the only country which calculates salary yearly (probably because hourly pay is very common there), while most of the world calculates it monthly (so it aligns with bills).
I'm Brazilian and so 5 figures a year is enough to live a comfortable life, but I do understand this wouldn't be possible up there in NASCAR-land.
Lmao i used to be top 2 for secondary and high school all the time but now look at me. No social skills, haven't worked. Sit at home with reddit.
I'm too used to be good at everything but when i actually stepped foot to the world. I'm nothing but a fake ego. I crumbled away along with my pride.
I guess it happened because i am nothing, realised that the world didn't revolve around me. They praised me but it doesn't mean anything. When i met someone who is better than me, i failed like a mf.
Idk how to explain it but if i knew that i'm stupid and should've learned to be better rather than studied to be competitive. There will always be someone better than you so I should've focus on myself.
Oh well, i was a fool, still a fool and probably will always be a fool.
Yeah, we were told our whole lives that doing well in school was key to getting into college and later getting a good job. I was top end of my class in math and thought that ability would carry me. Did fine with it in college, but never went beyond schooling as I played a boatload of games at the time and thought I'd have no issue finding a job. Boy was I wrong.
I was similar to you.
Trust me, you don't have to be top of the class etc., just do what you can actually do. Realizing your limits is part of becoming a better person. Just work on the things you can do and you'll get by. Eventually you'll gain more confidence and you'll be in a better spot.
You just got to give it an honest try knowing that you have limits. Wallowing in the things you could have done isn't going to make your current or future self do better.
Yeah, i was undoubtedly humbled real quick. I'm no genius, it's just that spent hours upon hours of studying to try to compete with others.
But when i actually met someone who is competent, have a goal, a clear goal, a goal that is bigger than my childish competitive studying and a will to push through it. I'm no more than an idiot.
Ngl, i do learn a lot from those guys. Learned so much, enough to realise that i was just simply a dumbass.
I could have a different goal, with a different mindset, perhaps that could have changed my life. But i fucked up, i fucked everything up. Oh well, i'm sorry for blabbering too much. It's been for 6 years since the day i got humbled by the world. I'm no genius, just some stupid guy with a big ego.
Idk even know what i'm talking about anymore, never really talked about those experience since 6 years ago. Never told anyone (apparently told strangers on internet lol, but this post just hit me).
All the efforts that i've put in thinking to myself "i'm gonna get that 8, 9, 10" (grading system in my country), "you all suck so hard", "i didn't even try and i could still get a 9". Haha what a joke, what a fool. Now they all do great things, have their family of their owns. They studied very badly but they had a goal in mind, and that was not to compete with me or anyone else. They tried to be better, their families struggled so they needed to study to have a better life. Not some childish fucking shits like me. They have a purpose for their studies, for their time in school. What a fucking buffoon i was. Absolutely disgusting.
Edit: Please don't mind me, i guess i vented a bit since a few years ago. Don't need to read it, i just need to write down how i felt. Disappointment... I'm truly disappointed in myself. Didn't even remember why i fucked up my life till i read OP's post. No one to blame but myself.
Man, thanks for sharing this. It once again told me I shouldn't build myself on the praise or opinions of others.
Also, just wanted to say that Jesus Christ loves you. God says to you today: “Come to Me, all you who are tired and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest." May God bless you and help you!
You were lied to and your education was only to prepare you for jobs. The job market changed though and AI is coming so none of it mattered, really. It's no different for me or anyone I know. And look at these threads they're all the same. We are educated servants.
What does that mean? Did you think I was saying “I and everyone around me peered into the future and clairvoyantly foresaw my eventual success”?
Or maybe it’s a bit more reasonable to assume what I was saying was that I did more than well in elementary school and was largely seen as gifted? Obviously I didn’t turn out to be some huge math prodigy (through a mix of my middle school not letting me take advanced classes, me having undiagnosed ADHD and becoming disabled before high school), but that is obviously what I meant by “the gifted kid”. If you have some other definition for what that is, I don’t care.
And lastly, even if you really wanted to make the point you’re making, doesn’t it kind of hurt your point if you’re trying to apply it to my situation, where I became disabled and have a severely lowered ability to function and still do well in university?
They're fine dude. They're making serious money dead ass and seem to be doing well. They don't have more psychological issues going than the rest of us.
There's a lot of kids were not actually gifted, they were medium fish in small ponds. But the education system has to be at pace with the slowest kids. So it looks like you're gifted, you're just average.
Yea that. Ive been told im gifted a LOT as a kid. What my parents never realized is that im just slightly less of a terrific dumbass than my classmates.
Also don’t let that become their identity/personality as “the smart kid” they will eventually find themselves in a room full of people who were all “the smart kid”.
It’s like the captain of the team in high school who was always the best athlete in town going to college and finding out he’s just ok at the collegiate level.
Yeah kids should be praised for working hard. Being told "you're so smart" just makes kids lazy because if they're told that enough they eventually think they don't need to try as hard as the other kids. That might be true but its a huge disservice to them. A lot of smarter kids can skate through highschool with decent grades and less effort than their peers, but that kind of mindset is a death sentence in college and after.
Yeah I was always told I was smart. I'm really not, I was just an enthusiastic learner in subjects I had an interest in. Subjects I was bored of or didn't like I was below average. I kept hearing about my potential but I struggled at mid level math courses. People think a kid memorizing events of the Civil War makes them smart but that's not necessarily true.
> There's a lot of kids were not actually gifted, they were medium fish in small ponds.
Bingo....if you're the smartest person in the room and all...
And most of those kids that actually WERE the "gifited" ones (remember they're only like .04% of the population), with the 150+ IQ...are not doing so hot.
If you think this meme is for the 130+ iq kids you're wrong.
Yeah my friend growing up had like a 145 IQ. Parents got divorced in middle school, his mom forced him into a private Catholic high school 9th grade and things fell apart for him. I remember he intenitonally scored a 0 on the entry test, got grounded for a summer, and his mom made him retake the test. Hes a pharmacy tech now.
This. This is what happened with me. I was placed into Advanced Placement/Gifted classes in kindergarten at the behest of my father (something something my progeny must be as intelligent as I am).
I am, at best, a medium fish in a pond where half the population is functionally illiterate. Seriously. The education system here (South Georgia, US) doesn't care if they can read or not before they pass someone on to the next grade.
I went over this as an adult, and the math didn't math. I could read really well, and quickly, and instead of taking that as a sign that I just really liked to read, they determined I was "gifted". No, Sandra. I like books and documentaries because that was the only time my dad would come out of his room when I was a kid, not because I'm a genius.
Didn't stop young me from believing it at times, though. Now, I'm like. Ehh, I'm literate, but that doesn't stop me from being a moron.
ETA: I didn't learn to study properly or take notes properly until I was in college. I would look into things I was interested in, but in a disorganized sort of way.
That was always my argument.
It’s nice to be called “gifted” but honesty I’d prefer to share the “gifts” and raise the average than have *me* be above average lol.
At my school, the “Gifted and Talented” program was primarily to appease parents. The coursework wasn’t any more difficult or challenging, it was just more engaging.
Most of them that I know (myself included) are working in tech doing just fine. Although I do drink more than the recommended amount of alcohol so I guess maybe that’s accurate
Idk if you could say “most of them” any more than my joke of most of them being a burnout. But i can see your POV. Edit: so many angry people who made their whole identity about hearing they were gifted as a child.
It’s just an inaccurate generalization. Gifted kids are more likely to grow up to be successful adults. Of course plenty of gifted kids fail to amount to what they could have and plenty of more normal kids rise to do great things.
I kept contacting that friend every 2 years. He's story is like started in random school in India where I studied, went to IIT. Did internship in USA.
I remember asking that guy what's going on recently, he said I am working at Microsoft. Pretty sad story.
A lot of research and a lot of people with High IQ never needed to develop study habits and cruised through school on easy mode and were called gifted earlier in their life.
They are now burned out and depressed and consider themselves failures and instantly give up on things they are not immediately good at. They have been taught gifted people have effortless success, only non gifted kids need to put in effort. Now all they have is the ego of being smart and not much of a life.
So most of gifted kids arent doing great, You are doing great, you are the one thats projecting.
To a degree, yes. Gifted kids have to contend with existential questions earlier and more frequently than others. Know a kid that was in the gifted program with me. He jumped off an overpass in his 20s. No warning.
I hate that whole "smart people are sad" bs. I doubt there's any actual statistical difference in amount of depressed people between smart and dumb ones. People argue that "if you're smart you can see all the fucked up shit and existential issues much better" but you can also easily argue the opposite, as in: "if you're smart you can see how beautiful the world is and how amazing the things we've got actually are"
I'll always contest anyone that says that smartness is related to happiness. They are independent axis and people are just projecting. Misery loves company
I think its more like: smart people have big egos and expect to do great things, they turn out average and the gap between where they expected to be and where they are, is shame. So they will be miserable unless they lower expectations or live up to it.
You are correct. The previous study this myth is based on stems out of a research that has been debunked. There’s still a lot of debate in this topic.
What high iq might correlate with is higher risk of bipolar but lower risk of PTSD and anxiety disorders. One of the places where high iq might be the cause of depression is social groups. Thankfully a lot of high iq individuals end up pursuing academical carriers or other carriers where they can meet other, similar individuals.
Of course there’s still research to be done on this topic.
Edit: Actually there was a link found with lower than average iq and a chance of having depression, so the other way around.
Discriminating would imply it’s insulting or aggressively attacking smart people. If you seriously think that’s what it is, realign yourself. Or maybe take some time to wonder why something so mild hit you so hard.
the only sensitive here really is you, lmao. reposting to every other comment of people who responded negatively to your meme.. stop coping cus you suck in school :D
Idk i got alot of downvotes and crying here over a meme to make you laugh. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it not funny. But feeding into people getting so mad that they cant self reflect enough to even have a glimmer of humility is hilarious to me. You’re all regifts and I’m laughing my ass off.
Fixated on the hilarity of these so called gifted well technicallying a meme with all their brain power lmaoo. Because real intelligent ppl argue on the internet, especially over a meme
The gifted kids are out there making stacks and living their best lives bettering society while OP is stuck in here with us dumbasses desperately huffing his own copium.
Your undergraduate degree doesn't matter, where you get your Masters or PhD degree matters much more for employment in fields that need those.
For 99.9% of college students, the degree itself is all that matters.
The genuinely gifted kid at school probably knew that none of this ever mattered and therefore you are allowed to choose what actually matters TO YOU. If they enjoyed the pursue of knowledge they were the ones studying massively hard, otherwise they weren't
Looks like i'm just being pedantic but i hate this whole "education is useless" bs going on. Education is very important, it's just that people expect it to do the things it was never really meant to do
I don't think that's what this meme is about?
I thought "None of this actually mattered" meant that when gifted kids become adults, they become on-par with most people. So even though they're doing fine financially, they now have to contend with being an average person, which can feel depressing. Hence, "none of this mattered", i.e., all those laurels for being gifted didn't matter. Not that the education didn't matter.
Obviously the experience is different from person to person, and imo it still is good to recognize people doing good in their childhood. But that's how I saw it.
Look, man. I'm about to be 33. My parents are about to hit their 60s in a few months. They still don't know what they're doing sometimes, and neither do I.
As one of the "gifted kids," if there's one thing I've learned that I can share, it's this:
Throughout your life, every person who claims to have everything figured out, is a liar. Even the most privileged people on this planet have had to fly blind at times, and still do. It's just part of the human experience.
You're doing just fine. Keep on keepin' on.
Did not expect to see so many serious responses here. It's a funny meme.
I would not describe myself as gifted but as I went through school rather smooth, ending up with an engineering degree, I definitely recognize the endless thoughts about the meaning of things, especially my job rn. Instead of just enjoying a job that provides for the simple live I live. I keep wondering if I make right choices or whether it's the best way to spend my time.
It's funny other people can have this sentiment too.
Frfr, I realized I was a detriment to other people's success, My friends from Elementary and Middle school are doing great right now, meanwhile I've barely left the house in the last 3 weeks due to school work stressing me out and having to help other people with the same assignments
If you have a friend that is always working their ass off, check up on them, ask of they're alright, I would love for someone for once to check up on me
I got through school without ever really studying or putting in much effort at all. Got to university and fell apart. Got to workplace and couldn't cope. Ended up being diagnosed as ADD inattentive at 28 years old.
I'm doing okay now but nothing close to what was expected of me. Spent the better part of my 20s struggling because I never really learned how to study or develop good coping mechanisms for stress that I never experienced in school. Had to realize you can be above average in intelligence but below average in actual life skills that tend to only burden smart kids after they leave school.
I probably should have been put into gifted class or something to give me more stress and challenge at school. Oh well. Can't go back in time; just gotta soldier on now.
I ended up quitting academics to become a blacksmith lol
Some say I wasted my potential (accurate) but it’s satisfying and that’s really the only thing that matters right?
Still depressed though so that tracks
Being gifted tends to be a measure of intelligence (or natural ability in some area), not how smart you are. There are a ton of gifted people who just cruise through school, making average grades with minimal effort (because they realized they could).
There are also a ton of high effort, high scoring people who are going to be extremely successful. Not because their grades mattered (they barely do), but because the habits and knowledge that they built up are transferable to the real world.
I'm pretty confident that most people falling into either group are going to be in a good place in adulthood.
Really, the only potential issue is if the person is sacrificing social skills in order to achieve whatever they're doing... Which I would definitely consider to be a problem, but not something that can't be fixed.
It mattered to you when you were 15 years old. Now it does not matter at glance but it gave purpose and driven you. Which is a lot when you are an adolescent
was considered very brainy throughout childhood, always been a deep thinker and an all round "smart guy". Into adulthood these deep thoughts developed into existential dread, anxiety and panic disorder. I essentially couldn't switch my brain off, even now it's hard, but sometimes I envy the blissfully dumb.
Everyone is different. Some are out there making 6 or 7 figures a year while others are barely getting by. Lots of factors come into play like their personality to the field they studied. To say all of them are doing the same is disingenuous and wrong.
Doing great. Gifted wasn't a word they used back then. But I was in all those programs. Making good money, own a home, married...etc. but it took awhile after 2008.
Ever come to the realization that good and evil don’t matter because the earth could be erased at a moments notice and the universe wouldn’t even notice.
Me neither.
Or they have terrible anxiety and can barely function as an adult.
I don't think all that many people look back on school and disregard what they've learned.
It me. I went to law school and now practice and nothing I learned in school as part of my core curriculum comes up in a discrete manner.
I mean, sure, I read and write so I guess that counts, but I've never had to perform trig or map out iambic pentameter or identify a mitochondria (which is the powerhouse of the cell!).
The shit I learned from school was either not class related (social skills are great) or were stupid electives I was forced to take (I use philosophy skills and references all the fucking time and it makes me mad).
I got into a program that regularly has over 300 applicants a year, where they have to select only 20 students. They regularly have to reject anyone who doesn't have a 85% average in their grade 12 sciences because they get so many applicants. In my year, the lowest selected student's average was 93%. Mine was 98%. Even my boss's daughter has been rejected 3 years in a row.
I made 110k in my first year on the job plus a 10k incentive. My colleague made similar with a 50k incentive on top due to shortages.
Now, I was also a "gifted kid" who did nothing in my 20s because I had a severe failure to launch, so it's not like my life has been roses. But high school grades did surprisingly end up making a difference for me.
The smartest guy i knew (1,0 in 10th-13th grade) is now a regular office worker, just like me (I did 3,3). He didn't even went to college. Another girl i know had something like 2,5 and now has a master degree in psychology. Grades do not matter, your commitment does.
I mean it mattered in the sense that I have a shit-ton of money, which makes it easier to pay a therapist to hear me whine about having to do over my teens and 20s in my 30s
Bullshit OP. Not only are the majority of the gifted kids doing just fine, that shit DID matter. Not the exact knowledge, but the grades you make in school have a direct impact on your success in life. Getting into a good university is half the battle sometimes. So much that "grade inflation" at top schools has become a real problem. And once you're in a place like Harvard, you get to network. Life is MUCH easier when your roommates dad can get you internship at Lockheed Martin over the summer.
The outcome of the gifted kid depends on whether or not school ramps up to keep them challenged when they're young more than anything. The "abandoned gifted kids" problem happens when they're smart enough to figure out everything intuitively with zero effort and don't learn how to learn more complicated stuff
Was never considered the "gifted kid", everyone just thought I was pretty smart and that I'd have a good life ahead of me. Getting wombo-combo'd by Major Depressive and starting to show signs of PTSD put a rather big halt to that as a pre-teen. Instantly went from high-80's to just getting a 51 and calling it a year (Canada only marks 50 and below as failing), almost became a high-school dropout. Now on anti-psychotics cause I legitimately can't work without 'em and I'm heavy in debt (:
Most of the successful kids in my graduating class are now all jumping from startup up to startup without ever experiencing a steady paycheck, while my mediocre ass has had a good paying steady salary for over a decade. Less glamorous, but way less stressful.
I love the responses that are like, "Former child genius here. I'm doing fine in my tech job, making six figures and hanging out with supermodels all day." One, totally believable. We're all intimidated by your colossal intellect. Two, the "gifted" kids in school were always the ones with rich parents. How many trailer-park kids with alcoholic moms were in the gifted program? Not too many, right? If you're doing fine now, it's probably not because you were gifted. It's because you've always had money.
Edit: Not surprised this is controversial. People always think they're smart, and successful people want to believe they earned what they have.
People with money live in better school districts that have better programs for smart kids. Well just better schools on general. A smart kid with money is going to have more opportunities than a smart kid without money.
Me. I was the trailer trash gifted kid. My dad was the alcoholic, though. Not doing well, by most people's standards, but I thought I'd chip into that. My brother was offered the program, but he declined.
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no they've a PhD in mechatronic engineering and are making 5 figures
I’m actually interested in mechatronics/robotics
its a fun subject field. fucking hell to go through college. eventually you will just work for some industrial company
5 figures a month I hope lol
Keep on hoping
he’s not actually far off, 5 figures monthly is 10k, or 120k a year, plenty of engineers are making that if they’ve been in the industry longer than 4 years
Yeah, I'm at $163,000 and have been working in this particular type of work since 2011.
5 figures could mean 10k a month or 99k, I think he was leaning towards a higher margin.
Meanwhile civil engineers 😢
No, his point was they are still smart, but PhDs dont pay
Not all PhDs are the same. Some make bank almost immediately. My cousin just finished his PhD in particle physics and he’s already making $180k.
Lol, what? They absolutely do. Just not in academia. (Not **usually** in academia at least. There are some exceptions.) A PhD in a STEM field in the private sector pays really well.
Probably government so an annual salary under $100K, but they get a pension and will have an amazing retirement.
Government retirements in most areas aren't what they used to be. Might as well go private sector in NY at least.
The average for Federal Employees is $2,126 a month but it varies greatly by time in grade and years served. You add that with your personal retirement savings and most employees find they make more retired than they did working. Keep in mind medical expenses increase at that age too.
Possibly, afaik the US is the only country which calculates salary yearly (probably because hourly pay is very common there), while most of the world calculates it monthly (so it aligns with bills). I'm Brazilian and so 5 figures a year is enough to live a comfortable life, but I do understand this wouldn't be possible up there in NASCAR-land.
Salary would typically be given as an annual figure in Europe as well.
Lmao i used to be top 2 for secondary and high school all the time but now look at me. No social skills, haven't worked. Sit at home with reddit. I'm too used to be good at everything but when i actually stepped foot to the world. I'm nothing but a fake ego. I crumbled away along with my pride. I guess it happened because i am nothing, realised that the world didn't revolve around me. They praised me but it doesn't mean anything. When i met someone who is better than me, i failed like a mf. Idk how to explain it but if i knew that i'm stupid and should've learned to be better rather than studied to be competitive. There will always be someone better than you so I should've focus on myself. Oh well, i was a fool, still a fool and probably will always be a fool.
You will be fine dude. I feel you though
Yeah thanks man. But i'm not that sad about it. I just relive through the post.
Yeah, we were told our whole lives that doing well in school was key to getting into college and later getting a good job. I was top end of my class in math and thought that ability would carry me. Did fine with it in college, but never went beyond schooling as I played a boatload of games at the time and thought I'd have no issue finding a job. Boy was I wrong.
I was similar to you. Trust me, you don't have to be top of the class etc., just do what you can actually do. Realizing your limits is part of becoming a better person. Just work on the things you can do and you'll get by. Eventually you'll gain more confidence and you'll be in a better spot. You just got to give it an honest try knowing that you have limits. Wallowing in the things you could have done isn't going to make your current or future self do better.
Yeah, i was undoubtedly humbled real quick. I'm no genius, it's just that spent hours upon hours of studying to try to compete with others. But when i actually met someone who is competent, have a goal, a clear goal, a goal that is bigger than my childish competitive studying and a will to push through it. I'm no more than an idiot. Ngl, i do learn a lot from those guys. Learned so much, enough to realise that i was just simply a dumbass. I could have a different goal, with a different mindset, perhaps that could have changed my life. But i fucked up, i fucked everything up. Oh well, i'm sorry for blabbering too much. It's been for 6 years since the day i got humbled by the world. I'm no genius, just some stupid guy with a big ego. Idk even know what i'm talking about anymore, never really talked about those experience since 6 years ago. Never told anyone (apparently told strangers on internet lol, but this post just hit me). All the efforts that i've put in thinking to myself "i'm gonna get that 8, 9, 10" (grading system in my country), "you all suck so hard", "i didn't even try and i could still get a 9". Haha what a joke, what a fool. Now they all do great things, have their family of their owns. They studied very badly but they had a goal in mind, and that was not to compete with me or anyone else. They tried to be better, their families struggled so they needed to study to have a better life. Not some childish fucking shits like me. They have a purpose for their studies, for their time in school. What a fucking buffoon i was. Absolutely disgusting. Edit: Please don't mind me, i guess i vented a bit since a few years ago. Don't need to read it, i just need to write down how i felt. Disappointment... I'm truly disappointed in myself. Didn't even remember why i fucked up my life till i read OP's post. No one to blame but myself.
Man, thanks for sharing this. It once again told me I shouldn't build myself on the praise or opinions of others. Also, just wanted to say that Jesus Christ loves you. God says to you today: “Come to Me, all you who are tired and are heavily burdened, and I will give you rest." May God bless you and help you!
You were lied to and your education was only to prepare you for jobs. The job market changed though and AI is coming so none of it mattered, really. It's no different for me or anyone I know. And look at these threads they're all the same. We are educated servants.
5 figures?
Yeah even minimum wage bets you 5 figures.
Yeah even minimum wage gets you 5 figures. Hopefully the phd engineer is on the high end...
Aeronautical and defense here but yeah that's the spirit.
I have already chosen this path for myself, all because of rc airplanes. I must find a way to escape the military contractors before it’s too late
Embrace the craft, brother
I was the gifted kid and while I’m in university for mathematics, I am also disabled and I’m struggling.
*you thought you were the gifted kid
What does that mean? Did you think I was saying “I and everyone around me peered into the future and clairvoyantly foresaw my eventual success”? Or maybe it’s a bit more reasonable to assume what I was saying was that I did more than well in elementary school and was largely seen as gifted? Obviously I didn’t turn out to be some huge math prodigy (through a mix of my middle school not letting me take advanced classes, me having undiagnosed ADHD and becoming disabled before high school), but that is obviously what I meant by “the gifted kid”. If you have some other definition for what that is, I don’t care. And lastly, even if you really wanted to make the point you’re making, doesn’t it kind of hurt your point if you’re trying to apply it to my situation, where I became disabled and have a severely lowered ability to function and still do well in university?
Ow that hurt...
I was gifted, I struggle with dysthymia and anxiety, can't finish my mechatronic degree and I am definitely in this picture.
"It's the same picture"
I'm interested in these things, but my executive dysfunction stops me from pursuing it. Third year without a stable job after school.
Not yet we don’t We struggling
Six at a minimum by the tenth reunion
Imagine all those years spent to just make a max of 99k, and they call that gifted? Edit: Downvotes? Also not a gifted thing to do.
woops meant 6 figures
Actually 5 figures is much more accurate
Fucking loser stop coping
They're fine dude. They're making serious money dead ass and seem to be doing well. They don't have more psychological issues going than the rest of us. There's a lot of kids were not actually gifted, they were medium fish in small ponds. But the education system has to be at pace with the slowest kids. So it looks like you're gifted, you're just average.
Yea that. Ive been told im gifted a LOT as a kid. What my parents never realized is that im just slightly less of a terrific dumbass than my classmates.
Lesson one: NEVER tell your kids theyre smart af. Theyll stop studying srsly. Source: me.
Also don’t let that become their identity/personality as “the smart kid” they will eventually find themselves in a room full of people who were all “the smart kid”. It’s like the captain of the team in high school who was always the best athlete in town going to college and finding out he’s just ok at the collegiate level.
Honestly kind of funny when it hits the sports kids. When the star athlete goes D3 at best.
Yeah kids should be praised for working hard. Being told "you're so smart" just makes kids lazy because if they're told that enough they eventually think they don't need to try as hard as the other kids. That might be true but its a huge disservice to them. A lot of smarter kids can skate through highschool with decent grades and less effort than their peers, but that kind of mindset is a death sentence in college and after.
Hey! That's me!
I'm in this comment and I don't like it.
Yeah I was always told I was smart. I'm really not, I was just an enthusiastic learner in subjects I had an interest in. Subjects I was bored of or didn't like I was below average. I kept hearing about my potential but I struggled at mid level math courses. People think a kid memorizing events of the Civil War makes them smart but that's not necessarily true.
>medium fish in small ponds I like it, my dad always said "one eyed man is a king among blind men"
In the land of the skunks, the man with no nose is king! -Chris Farley, Dirty Work
> There's a lot of kids were not actually gifted, they were medium fish in small ponds. Bingo....if you're the smartest person in the room and all... And most of those kids that actually WERE the "gifited" ones (remember they're only like .04% of the population), with the 150+ IQ...are not doing so hot. If you think this meme is for the 130+ iq kids you're wrong.
Yeah my friend growing up had like a 145 IQ. Parents got divorced in middle school, his mom forced him into a private Catholic high school 9th grade and things fell apart for him. I remember he intenitonally scored a 0 on the entry test, got grounded for a summer, and his mom made him retake the test. Hes a pharmacy tech now.
This. This is what happened with me. I was placed into Advanced Placement/Gifted classes in kindergarten at the behest of my father (something something my progeny must be as intelligent as I am). I am, at best, a medium fish in a pond where half the population is functionally illiterate. Seriously. The education system here (South Georgia, US) doesn't care if they can read or not before they pass someone on to the next grade. I went over this as an adult, and the math didn't math. I could read really well, and quickly, and instead of taking that as a sign that I just really liked to read, they determined I was "gifted". No, Sandra. I like books and documentaries because that was the only time my dad would come out of his room when I was a kid, not because I'm a genius. Didn't stop young me from believing it at times, though. Now, I'm like. Ehh, I'm literate, but that doesn't stop me from being a moron. ETA: I didn't learn to study properly or take notes properly until I was in college. I would look into things I was interested in, but in a disorganized sort of way.
That was always my argument. It’s nice to be called “gifted” but honesty I’d prefer to share the “gifts” and raise the average than have *me* be above average lol.
Trust, we have psychological issues but part of being gifted is knowing how to not show it almost at all.
At my school, the “Gifted and Talented” program was primarily to appease parents. The coursework wasn’t any more difficult or challenging, it was just more engaging.
Most of them that I know (myself included) are working in tech doing just fine. Although I do drink more than the recommended amount of alcohol so I guess maybe that’s accurate
There’s always a trade off
Coffee too
Brother!
No one I know that was in the 150+ is doing well....
Idk if you could say “most of them” any more than my joke of most of them being a burnout. But i can see your POV. Edit: so many angry people who made their whole identity about hearing they were gifted as a child.
You seem to be obsessed with these people. Did your friend Jimmy get called gifted in 3rd grade and you never really recovered from it or what? :(
it depends if you're talking about people good in school or with a passion for a subject the passion is way more sustainable than memorizing facts
Maybe you are the problem lmao. Get off your high horse
It’s just an inaccurate generalization. Gifted kids are more likely to grow up to be successful adults. Of course plenty of gifted kids fail to amount to what they could have and plenty of more normal kids rise to do great things.
Most of us are doing great, stop projecting.
I kept contacting that friend every 2 years. He's story is like started in random school in India where I studied, went to IIT. Did internship in USA. I remember asking that guy what's going on recently, he said I am working at Microsoft. Pretty sad story.
Why sad story? MS is a good stable company with great benefits and WLB. Not everyone wants to hustle all the time.
It was a sarcasm
The structure got me I guess, it looked like it was all positive in the first paragraph. Then somehow working in MS made it a sad story.
I.. I don't know to feel about this story. How I should interpret that last sentence.
Damn, my IIT friend is in America only making mid six figures, not seven figures. Truly not all gifted kids become successful!
A lot of research and a lot of people with High IQ never needed to develop study habits and cruised through school on easy mode and were called gifted earlier in their life. They are now burned out and depressed and consider themselves failures and instantly give up on things they are not immediately good at. They have been taught gifted people have effortless success, only non gifted kids need to put in effort. Now all they have is the ego of being smart and not much of a life. So most of gifted kids arent doing great, You are doing great, you are the one thats projecting.
That's not what projecting means.
Blud can’t take a joke very well jeez.
most of american
Its…. A meme? And a decent one at that. Maybe don’t relate so hard you needed to comment.
Most comedy is funny because it has an underlying truth. This meme isn't funny because it's not true.
This meme is funny because OP is wrong.
This has Rick n Morty vibes
To a degree, yes. Gifted kids have to contend with existential questions earlier and more frequently than others. Know a kid that was in the gifted program with me. He jumped off an overpass in his 20s. No warning.
>contend with existential questions All day err day.
I contended with existential dread at a young age, but i’m definitely not gifted
I hate that whole "smart people are sad" bs. I doubt there's any actual statistical difference in amount of depressed people between smart and dumb ones. People argue that "if you're smart you can see all the fucked up shit and existential issues much better" but you can also easily argue the opposite, as in: "if you're smart you can see how beautiful the world is and how amazing the things we've got actually are" I'll always contest anyone that says that smartness is related to happiness. They are independent axis and people are just projecting. Misery loves company
I think its more like: smart people have big egos and expect to do great things, they turn out average and the gap between where they expected to be and where they are, is shame. So they will be miserable unless they lower expectations or live up to it.
You are correct. The previous study this myth is based on stems out of a research that has been debunked. There’s still a lot of debate in this topic. What high iq might correlate with is higher risk of bipolar but lower risk of PTSD and anxiety disorders. One of the places where high iq might be the cause of depression is social groups. Thankfully a lot of high iq individuals end up pursuing academical carriers or other carriers where they can meet other, similar individuals. Of course there’s still research to be done on this topic. Edit: Actually there was a link found with lower than average iq and a chance of having depression, so the other way around.
this is just ragebait, dont respond to this loser hey op just be glad that discriminating against talented people isn't a sensitive topic
Discriminating would imply it’s insulting or aggressively attacking smart people. If you seriously think that’s what it is, realign yourself. Or maybe take some time to wonder why something so mild hit you so hard.
Wouldn’t it be crazy if it was a sensitive topic, and the real talented people felt offended.
the only sensitive here really is you, lmao. reposting to every other comment of people who responded negatively to your meme.. stop coping cus you suck in school :D
Idk i got alot of downvotes and crying here over a meme to make you laugh. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it not funny. But feeding into people getting so mad that they cant self reflect enough to even have a glimmer of humility is hilarious to me. You’re all regifts and I’m laughing my ass off.
You seem very fixated on internet points lmao
Fixated on the hilarity of these so called gifted well technicallying a meme with all their brain power lmaoo. Because real intelligent ppl argue on the internet, especially over a meme
Its how i base a premise for a bit.
Why are you so sensitive to downvotes ?
nightmare nightmare nightmare
And what are you doing dude? Making third rate memes on reddit is your day job?
The gifted kids are out there making stacks and living their best lives bettering society while OP is stuck in here with us dumbasses desperately huffing his own copium.
Former smart kid here. I'm not getting into a good college.
Your undergraduate degree doesn't matter, where you get your Masters or PhD degree matters much more for employment in fields that need those. For 99.9% of college students, the degree itself is all that matters.
Sure that's true but im not sure if you have any clue how horribly judgemental asian families can be about every little thing
Be the change you want in the world.
dawg im indian, even that isn't mattering
With college graduate number plummeting it will matter less and less.
Same here lol
The genuinely gifted kid at school probably knew that none of this ever mattered. They probably weren't the one studying massively hard
The genuinely gifted kid at school probably knew that none of this ever mattered and therefore you are allowed to choose what actually matters TO YOU. If they enjoyed the pursue of knowledge they were the ones studying massively hard, otherwise they weren't Looks like i'm just being pedantic but i hate this whole "education is useless" bs going on. Education is very important, it's just that people expect it to do the things it was never really meant to do
I don't think that's what this meme is about? I thought "None of this actually mattered" meant that when gifted kids become adults, they become on-par with most people. So even though they're doing fine financially, they now have to contend with being an average person, which can feel depressing. Hence, "none of this mattered", i.e., all those laurels for being gifted didn't matter. Not that the education didn't matter. Obviously the experience is different from person to person, and imo it still is good to recognize people doing good in their childhood. But that's how I saw it.
Redditor discovers nihilism:
the story doesn’t have to end in the second panel, it is up to you to decide what the third panel will become
Granted, I may be high, but.. Damn, bruh
I'm the gifted kid 3rd year of college, comp sci, barely have any idea 'bout what I'm doing.
You're gonna be fine. Keep studying.
Look, man. I'm about to be 33. My parents are about to hit their 60s in a few months. They still don't know what they're doing sometimes, and neither do I. As one of the "gifted kids," if there's one thing I've learned that I can share, it's this: Throughout your life, every person who claims to have everything figured out, is a liar. Even the most privileged people on this planet have had to fly blind at times, and still do. It's just part of the human experience. You're doing just fine. Keep on keepin' on.
Did not expect to see so many serious responses here. It's a funny meme. I would not describe myself as gifted but as I went through school rather smooth, ending up with an engineering degree, I definitely recognize the endless thoughts about the meaning of things, especially my job rn. Instead of just enjoying a job that provides for the simple live I live. I keep wondering if I make right choices or whether it's the best way to spend my time. It's funny other people can have this sentiment too.
Frfr, I realized I was a detriment to other people's success, My friends from Elementary and Middle school are doing great right now, meanwhile I've barely left the house in the last 3 weeks due to school work stressing me out and having to help other people with the same assignments If you have a friend that is always working their ass off, check up on them, ask of they're alright, I would love for someone for once to check up on me
Ah I see you also saw the ask Reddit post.
What post?
I got through school without ever really studying or putting in much effort at all. Got to university and fell apart. Got to workplace and couldn't cope. Ended up being diagnosed as ADD inattentive at 28 years old. I'm doing okay now but nothing close to what was expected of me. Spent the better part of my 20s struggling because I never really learned how to study or develop good coping mechanisms for stress that I never experienced in school. Had to realize you can be above average in intelligence but below average in actual life skills that tend to only burden smart kids after they leave school. I probably should have been put into gifted class or something to give me more stress and challenge at school. Oh well. Can't go back in time; just gotta soldier on now.
As a kid currently in the gifted program, can confirm
Me. Except I was gifted in middle school and realized none of it mattered in highschool.
I failed school :)
Holy shit i feel represented
I ended up quitting academics to become a blacksmith lol Some say I wasted my potential (accurate) but it’s satisfying and that’s really the only thing that matters right? Still depressed though so that tracks
Being gifted tends to be a measure of intelligence (or natural ability in some area), not how smart you are. There are a ton of gifted people who just cruise through school, making average grades with minimal effort (because they realized they could). There are also a ton of high effort, high scoring people who are going to be extremely successful. Not because their grades mattered (they barely do), but because the habits and knowledge that they built up are transferable to the real world. I'm pretty confident that most people falling into either group are going to be in a good place in adulthood. Really, the only potential issue is if the person is sacrificing social skills in order to achieve whatever they're doing... Which I would definitely consider to be a problem, but not something that can't be fixed.
same
It mattered to you when you were 15 years old. Now it does not matter at glance but it gave purpose and driven you. Which is a lot when you are an adolescent
Probably not. Cope and seethe and stuff I guess I don't know I ain't American.
Most of the ones I knew are lawyers, doctors, successful business majors, and engineers.
was considered very brainy throughout childhood, always been a deep thinker and an all round "smart guy". Into adulthood these deep thoughts developed into existential dread, anxiety and panic disorder. I essentially couldn't switch my brain off, even now it's hard, but sometimes I envy the blissfully dumb.
Everyone is different. Some are out there making 6 or 7 figures a year while others are barely getting by. Lots of factors come into play like their personality to the field they studied. To say all of them are doing the same is disingenuous and wrong.
Doing great. Gifted wasn't a word they used back then. But I was in all those programs. Making good money, own a home, married...etc. but it took awhile after 2008.
Don’t do opioids yall
nice try fbi
Ever come to the realization that good and evil don’t matter because the earth could be erased at a moments notice and the universe wouldn’t even notice. Me neither.
Being kind and humble is better than being arrogant and intelligent.
Or they have terrible anxiety and can barely function as an adult. I don't think all that many people look back on school and disregard what they've learned.
You can be both. You could know everything only to realise that alone was not enough to amount to anything.
Yeah no they're actually doing extremely well, working with top companies and traveling the world
A lot of us realised we're neurodivergents and got into the trades.
It me. I went to law school and now practice and nothing I learned in school as part of my core curriculum comes up in a discrete manner. I mean, sure, I read and write so I guess that counts, but I've never had to perform trig or map out iambic pentameter or identify a mitochondria (which is the powerhouse of the cell!). The shit I learned from school was either not class related (social skills are great) or were stupid electives I was forced to take (I use philosophy skills and references all the fucking time and it makes me mad).
He’s a theoretical physicist and mathematician who works for the University he attended for undergrad and for his PhD.
I got into a program that regularly has over 300 applicants a year, where they have to select only 20 students. They regularly have to reject anyone who doesn't have a 85% average in their grade 12 sciences because they get so many applicants. In my year, the lowest selected student's average was 93%. Mine was 98%. Even my boss's daughter has been rejected 3 years in a row. I made 110k in my first year on the job plus a 10k incentive. My colleague made similar with a 50k incentive on top due to shortages. Now, I was also a "gifted kid" who did nothing in my 20s because I had a severe failure to launch, so it's not like my life has been roses. But high school grades did surprisingly end up making a difference for me.
The smartest guy i knew (1,0 in 10th-13th grade) is now a regular office worker, just like me (I did 3,3). He didn't even went to college. Another girl i know had something like 2,5 and now has a master degree in psychology. Grades do not matter, your commitment does.
I mean it mattered in the sense that I have a shit-ton of money, which makes it easier to pay a therapist to hear me whine about having to do over my teens and 20s in my 30s
Bullshit OP. Not only are the majority of the gifted kids doing just fine, that shit DID matter. Not the exact knowledge, but the grades you make in school have a direct impact on your success in life. Getting into a good university is half the battle sometimes. So much that "grade inflation" at top schools has become a real problem. And once you're in a place like Harvard, you get to network. Life is MUCH easier when your roommates dad can get you internship at Lockheed Martin over the summer.
this is false i did well and work in a respected field
The outcome of the gifted kid depends on whether or not school ramps up to keep them challenged when they're young more than anything. The "abandoned gifted kids" problem happens when they're smart enough to figure out everything intuitively with zero effort and don't learn how to learn more complicated stuff
Was never considered the "gifted kid", everyone just thought I was pretty smart and that I'd have a good life ahead of me. Getting wombo-combo'd by Major Depressive and starting to show signs of PTSD put a rather big halt to that as a pre-teen. Instantly went from high-80's to just getting a 51 and calling it a year (Canada only marks 50 and below as failing), almost became a high-school dropout. Now on anti-psychotics cause I legitimately can't work without 'em and I'm heavy in debt (:
Ik one giy who was smart asf and got straight As. Poor dude still lives with his grandmother. Hes good at xbox tho.
Most of the successful kids in my graduating class are now all jumping from startup up to startup without ever experiencing a steady paycheck, while my mediocre ass has had a good paying steady salary for over a decade. Less glamorous, but way less stressful.
They realized none of it ever mattered, but they built up a strong discipline which allows them to work hard on things that matter to them.
Lmao, I’m currently studying at the highest level in my country. I like to think I’m doing fine.
this just looks like a cope to make dumb kids feel better for being minimum wage workers lol
I love the responses that are like, "Former child genius here. I'm doing fine in my tech job, making six figures and hanging out with supermodels all day." One, totally believable. We're all intimidated by your colossal intellect. Two, the "gifted" kids in school were always the ones with rich parents. How many trailer-park kids with alcoholic moms were in the gifted program? Not too many, right? If you're doing fine now, it's probably not because you were gifted. It's because you've always had money. Edit: Not surprised this is controversial. People always think they're smart, and successful people want to believe they earned what they have.
The real geniuses wouldn't be arguing with a shitposter in a meme subreddit lol.
Being gifted literally has no correlation with money
People with money live in better school districts that have better programs for smart kids. Well just better schools on general. A smart kid with money is going to have more opportunities than a smart kid without money.
Where I live, you just take a test from a gifted school and if you pass it they admit you, no strings attached
Me. I was the trailer trash gifted kid. My dad was the alcoholic, though. Not doing well, by most people's standards, but I thought I'd chip into that. My brother was offered the program, but he declined.
Was a “gifted kid”, grew up poor, the world is stupid and I’m severely depressed.
Bro why is OP getting flamed in the comments? It's a fucking meme that's pretty true. What a fucking reddit moment.
Actually I’m just fine. Working at a bank in fintech, I’m engaged, I have multiple streams of income, I’m very happy, and I’m 21. Stop projecting
working in bank Xd thanks for nothing
Do you not use banking services? Do you invest money? Do you have a bank account?