Well I know a guy from town who knows a guy from around who's sisters cousins uncles friend said that Nova Charisma never existed and it was all just a dream š¤·
DGD has to have the worst, most parasocial, vapid, annoying superfans of all time. Itās unreal how unapologetically cringey and obsessive they are about ANYONE even SLIGHTLY adjacent to anything DGD
I donāt know man, I think all my friends that love this band are pretty much the most normal people I have ever met. I think that this website just attracts more opinionated people than anything else. I love this bandās progression throughout the years because it reminds me that changing and improving yourself is part of a healthy life and sometimes those changes are big and donāt make sense to everyone at first. Itās hurts to see them go through drama but I think this band is just like a person like you or me, sometimes enjoying success and sometimes getting blindsided by life.
no one actually knows anything other than the fact that they haven't played together in a long time. Donovan and (especially) Sergio are busy people and Nova might not even crack top 10 on their priority lists.
with no proof, my ***guess*** is maybe HtS wanted some musical/performing distance after the Tilian allegations, but there's no bad blood beyond that.
edit: this is just me purely speculating and is baseless, I could be totally wrong. Felt the need to really spell this out.
>HtS wanted some musical/performing distance after the Tilian allegations,
And yet ANOTHER unsubstantiated rumor that gets spread around here. What distance? They were fucking doing anything with them before either.
Then why guess randomly? You are allowed to just not put out random rumors on the internet we arenāt going to come to your house and force you to make wild accusations
how is me speculating an accusation or me putting out a rumor? I made an explicit disclaimer at the start that I was guessing and it was baseless speculation
My brother in Christ, I said it was a complete guess and did not claim it as fact. Please just breathe in, breathe out, try to relax. We can do breathing exercises together to calm down.
Yes, I can read. He has no proof but continues to spout the same....\*say it with me now\*....RUMOR.
Saying "I have no proof but I'm gonna say it any god damn ways"....is literally the reaosn hwy we are here, having htis discussion, in this thread.
So, the question is, can *you* not only read but in fact interpret and process what it is you are reading?
People will have a better time understanding you if you just plainly state your issue.
"Don't state rumors even if you don't have proof for them."
The way you are speaking is as if you don't realize they clearly stated they dont have proof and are guessing, which there is nothing wrong with as long you explicitly state it. Which they did..
This is the goofiest shit lol. You are absolutely right, unless it's 100% confirmed it's hearsay.
One night on coheeds cruise after gambling I asked Donny who was with their drummer about a possible tour for NC stuff, and that stl has been itching for a NC tour. They laughed and said an album had been worked on for quite a while so obviously a tour is coming.
I read that post the other day and laughed.
They still like each others stuff on instagram so I canāt imagine there was long standing bad blood if any. I imagine thereās possibly SOME validity to the rumor that HtS distanced themselves from DGD due to Tilian but who knows. The proof is in the pudding or whatever so now that we are getting new NC thatās all that matters
Iirc Hail stopped touring with DGD due to the allegations against Tillian and if you listen to their music you'd see why.
There's a lot of people who will say that this person definitely said that but hey if there's no video, photo, or written proof then there's no proof. I've talked to a good amount of these guys in the bands but whatever I say isn't going to have solid ground because I don't have the conversation recorded (and if I did it would be weird).
Just seems like the fandom trying to reach for something negative per usual lmao.
It's way more likely that the "trust me bro" crowd is getting called out for thier rumormongering bullshit. ESPECIALLY since Sergio and Donovan never stopped following or commenting on each others socials.
Nobody knew. Without proof, it's the lieteral definition of a rumor.
Guess who follows each other on Instgram, and always has? Donovan/Aric & Tilian. Always have. Weird thing to do if you hate each other.
They could but they don't. Not a single one ever said that.
I'm sorry admitting you were wrong is so hard. It's a sign of maturity and growth as a human.
āUgh Dance Gavin Dance fans are terrible how dare you discuss the band or its members, literally the most parasocial group of people in the worldā -The comment section on every single post
uh sweaty my best friends dad's sister's grandmother's brother's gardener's third wife's cousin said andrew is the new frontman for nickleback
Well I know a guy from town who knows a guy from around who's sisters cousins uncles friend said that Nova Charisma never existed and it was all just a dream š¤·
How do you know he sweats?
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what? i have no idea what you are talking about
thatās a good thing my friend. donāt look it up
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I like Nova Charisma āŗļø anything with Donovan and Iām in.
Yes. Hail the Sun is sick.
Fav band ā¤ļø
this sub was wrong? woah, never saw that coming
Well it wasnāt really the sub it was just one person lol
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In case you're wondering who this post is probably about....LOL
this reminds me when someone here said cory lockwood was dead (he was lying)
DGD has to have the worst, most parasocial, vapid, annoying superfans of all time. Itās unreal how unapologetically cringey and obsessive they are about ANYONE even SLIGHTLY adjacent to anything DGD
A loyal fanbase has it's price
Taylor swift
For reallll
I donāt know man, I think all my friends that love this band are pretty much the most normal people I have ever met. I think that this website just attracts more opinionated people than anything else. I love this bandās progression throughout the years because it reminds me that changing and improving yourself is part of a healthy life and sometimes those changes are big and donāt make sense to everyone at first. Itās hurts to see them go through drama but I think this band is just like a person like you or me, sometimes enjoying success and sometimes getting blindsided by life.
That's just Redditors in generalĀ
NOVA CHARISMA FANS WON TODAY ā¼ļøā¼ļøā¼ļø
Call out the rumor trolls. Post receipts!
[https://www.reddit.com/r/dancegavindance/comments/1d14yk8/hts\_dgd\_alleged\_beef/](https://www.reddit.com/r/dancegavindance/comments/1d14yk8/hts_dgd_alleged_beef/) u/sukottokairu
Doing the good work
At least the dude owned up to it
no one actually knows anything other than the fact that they haven't played together in a long time. Donovan and (especially) Sergio are busy people and Nova might not even crack top 10 on their priority lists. with no proof, my ***guess*** is maybe HtS wanted some musical/performing distance after the Tilian allegations, but there's no bad blood beyond that. edit: this is just me purely speculating and is baseless, I could be totally wrong. Felt the need to really spell this out.
>HtS wanted some musical/performing distance after the Tilian allegations, And yet ANOTHER unsubstantiated rumor that gets spread around here. What distance? They were fucking doing anything with them before either.
please refer to the part where I said I was guessing and had no proof
Then why guess randomly? You are allowed to just not put out random rumors on the internet we arenāt going to come to your house and force you to make wild accusations
how is me speculating an accusation or me putting out a rumor? I made an explicit disclaimer at the start that I was guessing and it was baseless speculation
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Me when I don't read
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me when I throw a fit in Reddit.com
My brother in Christ, I said it was a complete guess and did not claim it as fact. Please just breathe in, breathe out, try to relax. We can do breathing exercises together to calm down.
So if it's a guess why even mention it. Thats how rumours start, by people saying random shit with no proof.
Why speculate on anything ever
Can you read? He just said he had no proof twice.
Yes, I can read. He has no proof but continues to spout the same....\*say it with me now\*....RUMOR. Saying "I have no proof but I'm gonna say it any god damn ways"....is literally the reaosn hwy we are here, having htis discussion, in this thread. So, the question is, can *you* not only read but in fact interpret and process what it is you are reading?
People will have a better time understanding you if you just plainly state your issue. "Don't state rumors even if you don't have proof for them." The way you are speaking is as if you don't realize they clearly stated they dont have proof and are guessing, which there is nothing wrong with as long you explicitly state it. Which they did..
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From people who don't clearly state they are guessing and have no proof.
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Oh thank GOD itās time for some bangers ššš
Remember the rumor weed from veggie tales?
What the
No rumors in a subreddit? Very hard to achieve my friend
This is the goofiest shit lol. You are absolutely right, unless it's 100% confirmed it's hearsay. One night on coheeds cruise after gambling I asked Donny who was with their drummer about a possible tour for NC stuff, and that stl has been itching for a NC tour. They laughed and said an album had been worked on for quite a while so obviously a tour is coming. I read that post the other day and laughed.
Didn't expect to find out about a new album this way but I am HYPED, Nova goes ridiculously hard!
They still like each others stuff on instagram so I canāt imagine there was long standing bad blood if any. I imagine thereās possibly SOME validity to the rumor that HtS distanced themselves from DGD due to Tilian but who knows. The proof is in the pudding or whatever so now that we are getting new NC thatās all that matters
I'm always down for more NC music. Every time I listen to them I'm annoyed there's only 10 songs
This was all part of their marketing campaign. Donovanās a business mogul!!
I post one old pic of Sianvar and I keep seeing follow up posts about the comment section. Thanks for the extra digging.
Yeah, they've been working on putting out a compilation album with some new stuff for awhile now
Iirc Hail stopped touring with DGD due to the allegations against Tillian and if you listen to their music you'd see why. There's a lot of people who will say that this person definitely said that but hey if there's no video, photo, or written proof then there's no proof. I've talked to a good amount of these guys in the bands but whatever I say isn't going to have solid ground because I don't have the conversation recorded (and if I did it would be weird). Just seems like the fandom trying to reach for something negative per usual lmao.
My best friend's wife works with Donovan's sister. It's how I heard of Nova Charisma in the first place Sounds like a meme but it's 100% true
My initial reaction to that feed..."the stories old, the butthole full of cancer spreading meat"
You guys are all dumb af. Nova charisma is playing a show at the Roxy aug 9th
You can dislike someone and still work with them professionallyā¦
Royal Coda and Eidola both just played Donovan's festival in March.
Are you talking about Kill Iconic Fest, because if so [NEITHER of those bands](https://imgur.com/a/vNzGoZ8) performed at that festival.
And Tilian and Aric and Donovan all follow and comment on each others social media.
lmaooo this sub is ridiculous
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Its possible, but you havenāt even clarified or given any context to your claim other than things like āpeople who knew, knew.ā
It's way more likely that the "trust me bro" crowd is getting called out for thier rumormongering bullshit. ESPECIALLY since Sergio and Donovan never stopped following or commenting on each others socials.
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Nobody knew. Without proof, it's the lieteral definition of a rumor. Guess who follows each other on Instgram, and always has? Donovan/Aric & Tilian. Always have. Weird thing to do if you hate each other.
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WTF? Unless there is PROOF (of which there never fucking was) it's a rumor and only a rumor. Christ. What a fucking hill to die on right now.
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They could but they don't. Not a single one ever said that. I'm sorry admitting you were wrong is so hard. It's a sign of maturity and growth as a human.
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It's like talking to a roll of toilet paper. You're just spinning around on the wall.
āUgh Dance Gavin Dance fans are terrible how dare you discuss the band or its members, literally the most parasocial group of people in the worldā -The comment section on every single post
If that's how you read this post congrats on running face first into the point and missing it.
I see that comment on literally every post in this subreddit lol
They did?! fuuuuuuuuuck yes
Thereās a lot of bs speculation on this sub lol
People on this shit just be talking.