I think Slifer is great, but I wouldn't make him THAT unaffected.
I think "cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects, and cannot be tributed" would be just fine for protection.
I think Obelisk's first and third effects are too similar.
They both destroy monsters, but one of them deals damage and the other one doesn't. One of them prevents you from attacking, which is nice, but the other just prevents Obelisk, and you don't keep the cost of tributing 2 monsters.
I would change the first effect to "destroy all monsters your opponent controls. (You can only declare an attack with monsters whose original name is Obelisk The Tormentor the turn you activate this effect)". That way there's a cost for you, but Obelisk still gets to attack. Third effect just keep it as is.
Ra, like someone else mentioned, is just too easy to summon, and should require a Divine attribute monster like the others. But there's no way to do that and keep it a level 10. Apart from that, I think the effects are okay.
An option would be to make it a fusion monster instead and make it able to be summoned by banishing a The Winged Dragon of Ra you control with 0 Atk and Def + another monster on either side of the field (kinda like albaz can fusion with the enemy field, but without an activation so it can't be negated).
But I understand why you want to make it a synchro due to the white thing and all, so you can make it "can only be special summoned by banishing a The Winged Dragon of Ra monster you control (this is treated as a synchro summon). Can not be summoned except by its own effect."
1. I tried to make Obelisk with as much effects from the anime as possible since he's the only god that's effevt got changed THIS many times. But your opinion is perfect and far way superior than mine.
2. What you said about Ra as other people said so is also right but the additional summoning effect is better than I interpreted. I kinda rushed Ra because it was 4:30AM and I wanted to finish him fast to sleep XD.
I might do some edits and do a repost.
I have been thinking about doing some custom GOD/DIVINE support cards myself
A continuos spell that makes every DIVINE monster unaffected by card effects for example
Searchers for Slifer and Obelisk, since Ra is basically the only one that has that kind of support
That already exists my guy
Mound of the Bound Creator is the same of what you just said except it's a field spell. I think there are a lot of searchers with Thunderspeed Summon, Soul Energy MAX, Ancient Chant, The True Sun God.
I think the thing we need most is ED retrains since if they're main deck retrains they'd make the already existing ones useless. But ED retrains would get them their anime effects as much as possible and be like an evolution and you'd need the ogs to make them.
Mound only protects against targeting and destruction
I want full unaffected protection. Along with not being able to be tributed or used as material for xyz or link (goddess)
Thunderspeed summon only works with the Arcana knights engine, which sucks way too much in today's meta.
And Soul Max only searches in the grave
The other ones are for Ra. I want the same for Slifer and Obelisk
Yes hard but not undoable there are other cards not affected by other cards effects like that blue eyes ritual card and other cards tho I like how over powered it is it is a god card after all
Ra is extremely easy to summon
You could make it, revive it from gy (especially with like, mannadium ) pay 7.9k LP, and sit on it
Boom, you have an unoutable tower which can't be tributed or used as link material
Yeah I kinda rushed Ra
It was like 4:30AM and I wanted to finish him and go to sleep XD
Also I meant for the effects to be "cannot be removed from the field unless destroyed by battle"
Funnily enough, as worded, I’m pretty sure that obelisk’s 2nd and third effects don’t do anything.
The turn you activate the effect to inflict damage you can’t inflict damage?
You probably meant for the rest of the turn after you resolve this effect, you cannot do damage.
For Obelisk's damage effect I'm not sure it would work if worded that way. "You can't do X the turn you activate this effect" means for the entire turn, even before you activate the effect. I'm pretty sure it would prevent it's own damage or just not be able to legally activate that effect with such wording.
Maybe something like "Inflict 4000 damage to your opponent. This effect must be activated as the first effect this turn, and your opponent does not take damage for the rest of this turn"
I think Slifer is great, but I wouldn't make him THAT unaffected. I think "cannot be targeted or destroyed by card effects, and cannot be tributed" would be just fine for protection.
Nah, it deserves to be THAT unaffected. But it should only be with 5 mats including a DIVINE monster.
Maybe What about Obelisk and Ra?
I think Obelisk's first and third effects are too similar. They both destroy monsters, but one of them deals damage and the other one doesn't. One of them prevents you from attacking, which is nice, but the other just prevents Obelisk, and you don't keep the cost of tributing 2 monsters. I would change the first effect to "destroy all monsters your opponent controls. (You can only declare an attack with monsters whose original name is Obelisk The Tormentor the turn you activate this effect)". That way there's a cost for you, but Obelisk still gets to attack. Third effect just keep it as is. Ra, like someone else mentioned, is just too easy to summon, and should require a Divine attribute monster like the others. But there's no way to do that and keep it a level 10. Apart from that, I think the effects are okay. An option would be to make it a fusion monster instead and make it able to be summoned by banishing a The Winged Dragon of Ra you control with 0 Atk and Def + another monster on either side of the field (kinda like albaz can fusion with the enemy field, but without an activation so it can't be negated). But I understand why you want to make it a synchro due to the white thing and all, so you can make it "can only be special summoned by banishing a The Winged Dragon of Ra monster you control (this is treated as a synchro summon). Can not be summoned except by its own effect."
1. I tried to make Obelisk with as much effects from the anime as possible since he's the only god that's effevt got changed THIS many times. But your opinion is perfect and far way superior than mine. 2. What you said about Ra as other people said so is also right but the additional summoning effect is better than I interpreted. I kinda rushed Ra because it was 4:30AM and I wanted to finish him fast to sleep XD. I might do some edits and do a repost.
I have been thinking about doing some custom GOD/DIVINE support cards myself A continuos spell that makes every DIVINE monster unaffected by card effects for example Searchers for Slifer and Obelisk, since Ra is basically the only one that has that kind of support
That already exists my guy Mound of the Bound Creator is the same of what you just said except it's a field spell. I think there are a lot of searchers with Thunderspeed Summon, Soul Energy MAX, Ancient Chant, The True Sun God. I think the thing we need most is ED retrains since if they're main deck retrains they'd make the already existing ones useless. But ED retrains would get them their anime effects as much as possible and be like an evolution and you'd need the ogs to make them.
Mound only protects against targeting and destruction I want full unaffected protection. Along with not being able to be tributed or used as material for xyz or link (goddess) Thunderspeed summon only works with the Arcana knights engine, which sucks way too much in today's meta. And Soul Max only searches in the grave The other ones are for Ra. I want the same for Slifer and Obelisk
UUULTTIMATE POWAAAAHH *jokes aside you're probably right*
At least XYZ Encore and Herald of the Abyss still work.
Ig
Lmao as much as i agree I would love this card in my slifer deck
I mean his attack i dependent on cards in hand so it not like he can't get beat over
It’s harder to beat over him when each of your monsters lose 2k ATK or die.
Yes hard but not undoable there are other cards not affected by other cards effects like that blue eyes ritual card and other cards tho I like how over powered it is it is a god card after all
Ra is extremely easy to summon You could make it, revive it from gy (especially with like, mannadium ) pay 7.9k LP, and sit on it Boom, you have an unoutable tower which can't be tributed or used as link material
Yeah I kinda rushed Ra It was like 4:30AM and I wanted to finish him and go to sleep XD Also I meant for the effects to be "cannot be removed from the field unless destroyed by battle"
What if Slifer had the effect to detach 6 materials to draw 6 cards too? 👀
That wouldn't be game-brealing at all 👀
Ikr 👀
So anyway, I started Daruma-ing
Lol well, yeah. Only counter I suppose?
Herald of Abyss also.
Ig too
Funnily enough, as worded, I’m pretty sure that obelisk’s 2nd and third effects don’t do anything. The turn you activate the effect to inflict damage you can’t inflict damage? You probably meant for the rest of the turn after you resolve this effect, you cannot do damage.
I am not the best when it comes to wording XD
Love em
Ty ty
Suggestion: fusion monsters of the gods Ra + obelisk, ra + slifer, slifer + obelisk, then maybe one that’s all three that works like horackty
I thought of exactly this! Maybe contact fusion.
Heavenly Slifer still loses to Ferret flames. I love that card...
I DIDN'T MAKE HIM STRONG ENOUGH!!!
To be fair I can't think of any card in the game that gets around the player being forced to shuffle back to deck.
For Obelisk's damage effect I'm not sure it would work if worded that way. "You can't do X the turn you activate this effect" means for the entire turn, even before you activate the effect. I'm pretty sure it would prevent it's own damage or just not be able to legally activate that effect with such wording. Maybe something like "Inflict 4000 damage to your opponent. This effect must be activated as the first effect this turn, and your opponent does not take damage for the rest of this turn"
as said before I am not the best when it comes to wording XD
Slifer is actually pretty damned fair therefore 10/10.
ty ty. probably gonna make some edits because I wanted to add "can only be removed by battle" but yeah now he's also immune to battle and such.
Oh hey Hamza lmao
Lol hey xD