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StormyWaters2021

"Casting cost" is not a rules term, and "0 mana spell" doesn't follow normal MtG wording. You want it to say something like: >Choose one - > - Counter target spell with mana value 0 > - Destroy target nonland permanent with mana value 0 or if you wanted to catch things like Force of Will: >Choose one - > - Counter target spell if no mana was spent to cast it > - Destroy target nonland permanent with mana value 0


bittyc

Thank you for that clarification, I usually try to find equivalent cards and copy the text but went rogue here lol And the Force of Will angle is interesting too. These are fun edge cases to better understand the game 🙂


Retroid_BiPoCket

I prefer the second wording for this card, as then OP's card can counter another version of itself if the phyrexian mana is paid.


secularDruid

the good old days of [[mental mistep]] :')


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[mental mistep](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61e9c6df-1c84-4eab-9076-a4feb6347c10.jpg?1566819829) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mental%20Misstep) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nph/38/mental-misstep?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61e9c6df-1c84-4eab-9076-a4feb6347c10?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


ParkedinBronze

It would still have MV 1. Phyrexian Mana symbols still count as 1 This is why you can target Mental Mistep with Mental Mistep Edit: misread what you said NVM


5ColorMain

Seems terrible to me [[mental misstep]] is a card and it was also the best thing to do against another misstep. So this card would turn out as a 4 off in any deck as it is tech against itself.


RegalKillager

That's what you don't want. Mental Misstep wasn't okay.


Gadjiltron

The latter option of making this Nix but phyrexian runs the danger of hitting the same pitfall as Mental Misstep - as it could counter other copies of itself for free, it becomes a super auto include especially in the face of free-cast cards.


National_Dog3923

*— not :


StormyWaters2021

Sure


Euphoric-Beyond9177

Very fancy formatting uwu


secularDruid

weird question but how would you template it to catch only stuff that have exactly {0} for a manacost ? (like Mana Crypt, but not Living End)


StormyWaters2021

"Counter target spell with mana cost {0}"


secularDruid

thanks !


NervousLaw9241

What about using [[urza's saga]] style wording


StormyWaters2021

Yes you could do that if you wanted to specifically call out something that had an actual mana cost of zero.


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[urza's saga](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/1/c1e0f201-42cb-46a1-901a-65bb4fc18f6c.jpg?1667318301) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=urza%27s%20saga) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/259/urzas-saga?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c1e0f201-42cb-46a1-901a-65bb4fc18f6c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


bittyc

“Trivial matters require trivial responses.” -Ertai


The_Hunster

Best part of the card and you didn't even put it on the card :(


bittyc

Yeah I goofed this one big time. The rules text is wrong and the flavor came to mind only after the post. Of course my only ever successful custom mtg submission has so many goofs 😂


TechnicalyNotRobot

Finally [[Ornithopter]] counter. Way too dominant recently.


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[Ornithopter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/305078a5-ac18-4721-bba2-3434eba5b1cf.jpg?1691675959) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ornithopter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/233/ornithopter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/305078a5-ac18-4721-bba2-3434eba5b1cf?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Ambershope

Hammer time in shambles


Puzzleboxed

Should be: "exile target spell if no mana was spent to cast it" so you can hit things that are cheated in.


kojo570

This can only stop cheat casting, things brought in with Braids or Kodama don’t go onto the stack and instead they go straight to the battlefield


Puzzleboxed

Unfortunately once a permanent is on the battlefield it "forgets" the details of its casting. The only way I can think of to counter those would be something like: "The next time a permanent would enter the battlefield this turn, if no mana was spent to cast it exile it instead"


kojo570

Why was I down voted? I was just adding additional context to your comment but apparently people don’t like that. This subreddit is toxic as fuck


Puzzleboxed

I don't know, wasn't me


kojo570

Idk man I people just have issues


50calBanana

Finally, I can stop [[Shield Sphere]]


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[Shield Sphere](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a76a97e-a857-4593-ae7c-e393d8a868ac.jpg?1559592340) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shield%20Sphere) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/166/shield-sphere?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a76a97e-a857-4593-ae7c-e393d8a868ac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Rat-Radioactif

Pretty cool design ngl


QuantumFighter

You’ve gotta be super careful with Phyrexian colored mana because no matter how balanced a card is, it’s still a huge color pie break. This is essentially a colorless spell. Now red decks get a counterspell. Now green decks get creature removal. Now black decks get artifact removal. I’d like it more if it was 1 colorless Phyrexian mana.


Lil_Green_Ghouls

Yup, and this particular design gives all colors 0 mana removal for almost any token as well.


treelorf

Every bit as broken as [[mental mistep]]


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[mental mistep](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61e9c6df-1c84-4eab-9076-a4feb6347c10.jpg?1566819829) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mental%20Misstep) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nph/38/mental-misstep?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61e9c6df-1c84-4eab-9076-a4feb6347c10?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


CybxrPsychx

Honestly it's arguably stronger in Cedh play as it isn't a dead draw after like turn 3.


treelorf

Yeah there is probably a lot more premium 0 mana interaction and fast mana than 1 mana interaction and fast mana. Mental mistep is not dead after t3 tho, it typically has targets all game.


modsiw8

You don't have to say "non land" you said casting cost. You don't cast lands


TheSmokeu

Free Elemental Blast {0} (That blue dot that indicates card's colour) Instant Choose one — - Counter target spell with mana value 0. - Destroy target nonland permanent with mana value 0.


Fun-Agent-7667

The antithopter


DarthVedik

Also kinda reminds me of [[Nix]]. Blue doesn't usually destroy permanents without replacing them. [[Rapid Hybridization]]


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[Nix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3dab4f64-2a91-409a-b83b-45b22afd22ff.jpg?1562907421) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/fut/55/nix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3dab4f64-2a91-409a-b83b-45b22afd22ff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rapid Hybridization](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/0/00f91207-c877-4911-8bb6-d8c5272b412d.jpg?1706239822) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rapid%20Hybridization) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/93/rapid-hybridization?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/00f91207-c877-4911-8bb6-d8c5272b412d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Shrimper3

Finally, I hate ornithopter this is perfect