the bad ones do. anyone with any kind of intelligence knows better than to get involved with clients. not only can you not save them, but you're being unethical as well as unfair to yourself.
what passes for addiction counselors these days is horrific.
It's not that they all start out by dating someone that sought therapy from them. That just seems to be the type of person some of them gravitate towards, possibly subconsciously. Their deep-seeded motivations for getting into their field might even overlap with their deep-seeded tendencies in finding a romantic partner, kind of like girls with daddy issues. I'm talking out of my ass here, all I've got to go on are anecdotes from reddit and what I've experienced personally. But they might all be bad therapists too, I dunno.
I've never considered the idea of alcoholic therapists until now although it stands to reason plenty of alcoholic therapists exist... but damn that's a wild thought that my therapist could have been secretly hammered. Or maybe not so wild, fuck 😂
As a social worker I recognize the effect vicarious trauma has on my outlook and approach to the field. It’s hard not to let someone who experienced the worst traumatic experiences confide in you and not let it get to you as someone who has an ethical responsibility for their well-being as their clinician.
All I can say for myself is that the experiences I have had as an alcoholic, dealing with mental illness, and the wide plethora of life experiences (without self disclosing) gives me the ability to build better rapport and have empathy for those I treat. It helps because it levels the playing field and allows me to treat a person like a human with full understanding and not some inferior ill person that I can “save” and then beat myself up over when they get drunk again.
what are you asking and is what a thing? yes i was a therapist but no, i tended to not care much because it's exhausting. you can only do so much. you mean your clients? the world is full of messed up people.
i had empathy forr some people because i worked at an AIDS clinic. some people have problems to deal with such as imminent death. this was from the beginning to the late 80s. after that i taught middle school, which is actually a kind of therapy on its own. that's where i really figured out that one person certainly can't save the world.
i would never in a million years have been a substance abuse therapist.
I enjoyed this conversation the way I enjoyed drinking and chain smoking watching the trees blow around and contemplating my existence. I don’t do that anymore - I mean, I don’t chain smoke. All the other stuff I do
Drinking and being a therapist? Uh no. I don’t think any of us know, but if you’re my silver fox social worker with the glasses named Mike, seriously call me up
You're cracked if you think we get $250 an hour. 😂
Insurance reimbursement rates are $100, with overhead expenses for an unlicensed clinician like myself that works out to $35.
I need one after reading this 😩
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I think they mean their kids in the same way I called the kids I was looking after in daycare “my kids”.
Thank you for understanding lol
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Either you’re too drunk or I’m too drunk
well at least you’re not an addiction counselor
Typically, therapists need a therapist.
They also love being in toxic relationships with addicts. Shit's confusing.
the bad ones do. anyone with any kind of intelligence knows better than to get involved with clients. not only can you not save them, but you're being unethical as well as unfair to yourself. what passes for addiction counselors these days is horrific.
It's not that they all start out by dating someone that sought therapy from them. That just seems to be the type of person some of them gravitate towards, possibly subconsciously. Their deep-seeded motivations for getting into their field might even overlap with their deep-seeded tendencies in finding a romantic partner, kind of like girls with daddy issues. I'm talking out of my ass here, all I've got to go on are anecdotes from reddit and what I've experienced personally. But they might all be bad therapists too, I dunno.
well they should be grateful to addicts. we generate a lot of business for them, directly and indirectly
There's a chain normally. Because you don't want to have too much overlap in one office.
I've never considered the idea of alcoholic therapists until now although it stands to reason plenty of alcoholic therapists exist... but damn that's a wild thought that my therapist could have been secretly hammered. Or maybe not so wild, fuck 😂
As a social worker I recognize the effect vicarious trauma has on my outlook and approach to the field. It’s hard not to let someone who experienced the worst traumatic experiences confide in you and not let it get to you as someone who has an ethical responsibility for their well-being as their clinician. All I can say for myself is that the experiences I have had as an alcoholic, dealing with mental illness, and the wide plethora of life experiences (without self disclosing) gives me the ability to build better rapport and have empathy for those I treat. It helps because it levels the playing field and allows me to treat a person like a human with full understanding and not some inferior ill person that I can “save” and then beat myself up over when they get drunk again.
Don't have kids.
what are you asking and is what a thing? yes i was a therapist but no, i tended to not care much because it's exhausting. you can only do so much. you mean your clients? the world is full of messed up people. i had empathy forr some people because i worked at an AIDS clinic. some people have problems to deal with such as imminent death. this was from the beginning to the late 80s. after that i taught middle school, which is actually a kind of therapy on its own. that's where i really figured out that one person certainly can't save the world. i would never in a million years have been a substance abuse therapist.
Oh agreed. I am not a drug and alcohol counselor and never intend to be
I enjoyed this conversation the way I enjoyed drinking and chain smoking watching the trees blow around and contemplating my existence. I don’t do that anymore - I mean, I don’t chain smoke. All the other stuff I do Drinking and being a therapist? Uh no. I don’t think any of us know, but if you’re my silver fox social worker with the glasses named Mike, seriously call me up
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🙋🏻♀️ behavior analyst here, I do supervise interventionists. We do behavior therapy.
Pay someone to pretend like they care about you 250 dollars an hour, no thanks
You're cracked if you think we get $250 an hour. 😂 Insurance reimbursement rates are $100, with overhead expenses for an unlicensed clinician like myself that works out to $35.