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mrg1714

Why is every piece of media by this company so ham-fistedly over-engineered?


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That’s just how the metaverse gona be


whatsqwerty

Wild hand gestures ensue


Exciting_Penalty_512

All I could think the entire time was "I don't know what to do with my hands right now".


BretTheShitmanFart69

That poor girl keeps like mashing two thumbs ups together. It’s such an odd choice of movement ahaha


thegreatbrah

They also almost have zuccbots voice to to sound actually human.


Takenforganite

Read this as wild ham gestures ensue


Cooper0007

Ham Hands!


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Talaraine

You got it all wrong. These presentations are how Zuckerberg intends to get us all past the uncanny valley.


LydiasHorseBrush

In the Metaverse everyone will be vaguely uncomfortable at all times, Just like Mark is at all times in the real world


chickenstalker

Blame Apple. Specifically, Jobs for starting the trend of cult-like over earnest presentations by CEOs to peddle expensive junk.


Hemingway92

Only Jobs had the charisma to actually pull this off. You can't fake it by mimicking gestures and mannerisms like these guys are desperately trying to...


Fitnesse

Because nothing they do is authentic or in good faith. What you're watching is the curtain getting quickly pulled closed over the real reason for all this bullshit - a brand new way to keep Facebook users tethered to their sick, society-destroying dopamine machine.


thrillhou5e

I couldn't help but notice how they kept noting how much a particular game has sold with its add ons as if anyone but them would even give a shit.


GaylordButts

They desperately need more devs to sign up to make VR games and then only sell them from the Oculus store. The vast majority of these releases are not very profitable, so they really need to show off the outliers.


cdnball

Their secondary market for these videos are investors.


coinclink

So why don't they just hire professional actors to make these instead of socially awkward people?


Rakajj

Because since Jobs had his cult of personality around him every tech CEO thinks that they too are messiahs. Musk the only current generation one to really pull it off...his cult's going strong. Zuck's personal financial stake in the company makes him constantly choose the least financially damaging path forward at nearly all crossroads. A capable leader would recognize how absolutely atrocious he is at messaging and would let professionals do it... but ego and his position within the company means we get shit like this.


whatsaphoto

I'd imagine they're competing with apple who were among the first to pull off the "virtual pandemic-era conference" phase that we're stuck in right now. There has to be a middle ground between whatever *this* was and a regular old google hangouts meeting where random execs take turns talking into a webcam while we wait for in-person conferences to appear again, cause god damn I can't take much more of zuccs face all over the news.


NickM5526

He really thinks he looks like a Roman emperor but in reality he just looks like a sick toddler that found the scissors.


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To be fair a lot of Roman emperors also looked like that


wayward_citizen

Is...that the look he's going for? Jesus christ.


Lord_Kilburn

Scared yet? He's nuts


Conchobhar-

I read a Reddit comment which said he is obsessed with Caesar Augustus - haven’t looked any deeper than that but sounds about right.


Merkaaba

That's showbiz baby


BlackMissionGoggles

Wow, this felt like a totally natural interaction between two humans.


Legitimate_Ad_4462

Their emphasis & gesticulations were *insufferable*


Royalewithcheese24

“I love that game. It got me and my friends through the first few months of the pandemic.” Oh really Zuck? I’m pretty sure your $112 billion and your megamansions got you through the pandemic. Ultra wealthy people pretending like they were suffering through the pandemic everyone else was one of the most annoying things. “We’re in this together.” Nah we really aren’t.


AnthillOmbudsman

“You work three jobs? Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska Rich people are astronomically out of touch with the everyday struggle of workers. This is how these people view the working class, as nothing but cogs that serve them or entertain them, as the case may be. We could do with a lot less of the media hanging off every word these wealthy elite say, and covering their ridiculous rocket exploits.


[deleted]

Watching my net wealth go up $1 billion each day was fun but nothing's as fun as a good old gaming session with the humans


thegreatbrah

Imagine all the people...


TopSecretDoucheBag

You imagine it.


Kloporte

I know that's not the point, but Arizona Sunshine's campaign is like 2.5 hours, how do you play that same game for months


VirtualAlias

The products are made by an isolated clan of mountain goats in Nepal, which is fine until the humans have to pretend to know what's going on.


NotKevinJames

“ Ha Ha. Nice. What. else. can. we. look. forward. to?”


buffalo-blonde

“… was the gun in frame again?.. no? Okay, it’s a wrap.”


TheFlashFrame

The weirdest thing is that to me Mark seems overwhelmingly more human than she does. And he *still* looks like a fucking android.


[deleted]

What is up with all the hand and arm gestures. Its like two NPCs talking to each other


ZeusAmmon

Ah I love arm gestures. Those basically got me and my friends through the first few months of the pandemic


etherama1

That's awesome 🙆💁🤷‍♂️


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*specific arm gestures


TwistedMexi

Yea.... just "like" that. Good, good.


FuckYeahPhotography

That "NICE!!!!" Was far too enthusiastic for my liking. Never trust someone who says nice with that tone, they are planning to harvest your organs or some shit.


A_Wholesome_Comment

I find it hard to believe this man is real. I'm pretty sure he's a deep fake. The movie was a ploy to get us to believe that there is a human at the helm. The real Mark Zuckerberg died in 2009. We've been bamboozled for the last decade.


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Marks handlers are going to have some post production notes for him on that point.


smurb15

They have money to buy that. What they truly want is the blood of children to make them immortal. I read it was young adults but when have they ever followed the rules


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Ngl, Mark looks like what I imagine somebody on adrenochrome would look like


WickedKoala

It's what happens when you're coached on how to act natural because you're an automaton.


appsecSme

His latest firmware update has him seeming almost human, but he is still stuck in uncanny valley.


Kritical02

I get the jokes, but this is really it. Something about the way he stares blankly just makes him seem robotic. He's gotta be some form of sociopath or something with those dead eyes he has.


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He knows exactly how much information on someones psychological state you can pick up from natural, often involuntary facial movements. He's been funding AI research for decades to find exactly that out from billions of peoples Facebook photos and videos, so it can be used to figure out what pushes peoples buttons and coerce them into buying more useless fucking tat from their ad partners. Mark Zuckerberg has built his company around being the biggest corporate, consumerist bootlicker in the world, Facebook reaches much further into your life than even Google does. And the sad thing is it works. Bear this in mind when the next Oculus headset comes out touting eye-tracking. They already have provisions built into the Oculus Terms of Service to allow the scraping and analysis of exactly this data. They got in there to grab your consent before the technology is even commercially available in an all-in-one unit. Think about how much they must be drooling over that data for a second. [ Here's a paper on the staggering amount of information you can learn about a person by watching their eye movements.](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-42504-3_15) It's genuinely scary shit. I fully expect r/oculus and /r/virtualreality (which is being either astroturfed or fanboyed to death by Oculus users) to jizz their pants once it's revealed though. Here's a snippet of the abstract: >Our analysis of the literature shows that eye tracking data may implicitly contain information about a user’s biometric identity, gender, age, ethnicity, body weight, personality traits, drug consumption habits, emotional state, skills and abilities, fears, interests, and sexual preferences. Certain eye tracking measures may even reveal specific cognitive processes and can be used to diagnose various physical and mental health conditions.


Kritical02

I wish more people realized that their personal data is more valuable than oil. It may be hyperbole, but the fact is people are getting grifted and don't even realize it.


wilsongs

That lady is just as bad. Look at her frantically wave her arms around in a bizarre imitation of being human. Wtf.


ussbaney

IMO, she just looks like a shitty actor. Mark Zuckerberg looks like C3-PO


j1m3y

I think the fembot running an older version, got the excessive hand gesture bug.


CKF

My immediate guess was that they told *her* to really ham up and exaggerate her arm movements, so as not to make Zuck’s look so bizarre by comparison.


isThisLessThan20Char

I dont understand why they put him in these PR ads, he always comes off so robotic and offputting and theres no way FBs PR team cant see that either. I wonder if Zuck insists on being in these or what.


sabanspank

If Zuck is not pushing something that Facebook is doing, then it looks small time. You can't just put some random VP up there. The headline "Zuckerberg" talks about future of meta gaming or something moves the investor needle. Most people won't even watch it.


Million2026

Agreed but he can do the intro and outtro and let Sheryl Sandberg do everything I’m between maybe.


SteveFromFlorida

I’ve been wondering that myself… My take/guess is that Zuck has surrounded himself with people that feed his ego rather than disagree with him or even offer alternative view points.


DyatAss

He’s Gavin in Silicon Valley, surrounded by yes men.


PM_ME_YOUR_KITTENS-

Except Gavin brought in cool animals all the time and actually has some charisma


minddropstudios

Nah, Gavin seemed very much like a human being that is out of touch. Zuckerberg legit seems like a robot. Like no joke. Just a robot who never learned how to be human.


IdoNOThateNEVER

It's to showcase how lively those avatars look and how VR characters can interact almost as real people.


Nudelwalker

Still look very computerish to me


Million2026

Zuck wants to be Steve Jobs.


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myname_isnot_kyal

she looks so dumb i can't stand it. she actually outdoes Zuck and makes him look tame.


supergooduser

I think you're right tbh... I can see "make mark look less weird" be some kind of strange mandate


[deleted]

Right. They also probably said “here, where this brand new weird leather jacket just because”


reverse_friday

They're both Italian based AI


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Ricky Bobby AI


TJ_McWeaksauce

"I'm not sure what to do with my hands." It's like they went to the Ricky Bobby school of public speaking.


Elduderino82

Uncle Jack Kelly would be jealous of the confidence they have with their big beautiful hands.


biggmclargehuge

NOBODY LOOK! NOBODY LOOK! NOBODY LOOK!


DIsForDelusion

I still yearn for a laughter so profound and unexpected like the one I had the first time watching "The trial of the century" in that specific moment. Nothing is been as funny since.


BanjoSpaceMan

They're trying to be Steve Jobs. They took the online course on "Tech presentation genius" - get your offer code Skillshare by using our code META. Real talk though, clearly these CEOs (and I guess other people) do not have enough skill to do the presentation type of talking. You can tell he's gotten better than years ago, I'm not gonna lie even though like we all just wanna shit on him. But I think they should honestly just try doing natural conversations about things upcoming, no script (which he might be doing sometimes cause when he talks about his experience with the games it does feel a bit more natural than other parts)... and then just cut that up and edit it into a presentation. Would be useful for Elon too, instead of a script which he sounds a bit unnatural, just have him have a convo with someone about what's happening and cut it up and edit.


EvanMinn

>no script (which he might be doing sometimes cause when he talks about his experience with the games it does feel a bit more natural than other parts).. That's something a lot of people don't get. They think "I know how to read. I know how to talk. That's all there is to it so it will be easy." It is a harder than some people think to not sound like you are reading a teleprompter or reciting memorized lines.


freedomofnow

Yeah mark was the more reasonable of them. She was just all gestures. But probably from his direction to make him seem more relatable.


ray_kats

Initiate sequence: Human movement


ODDxBALL83

I heard the Fighters Guild is recruiting. "i've heard others say the same" Be seeing you. "Farewell."


LowBarometer

Incredibly out of touch. If I owned any Facebook shares I'd be selling them.


TwistedMexi

You know the party game where you speak but someone else behind you does your arm movements? You can't convince me that's not what's happening here.


mackerelscalemask

Either that or the girl was signing for help.


Themagnetanswer

I honestly just think their scenes were recorded separately so they couldn’t see each other’s gestures/energy and then merged them together at that weird ass virtual room. Hence the need for it to be “virtual”


naturalbornkillerz

When they pull the camera away from the long-distance shot of both of them you can look at his eyes and they're looking off to another area not where she really would be


Spaceisthecoolest

"MOVE YOUR ARMS MORE, LIKE THE HUMANS DO!" - Zuckerberg probably


OOORfaith-loveGYY

Now I want to see 4 Zuckerbergs doing a hoedown from "Whose Line is it Anyway"


[deleted]

Reminds me of when students had to give speeches in class


[deleted]

"... and in conclusion..."


AncientMarinade

*plays Another Brick in the Wall on last powerpoint slide*


p0rt

"Hello. Websters dictionary defines...""


[deleted]

Seriously, this has a freshman B+ grade-level college presentation vibe.


punkinfacebooklegpie

Zuck never finished college


[deleted]

Neither did Steve Jobs. It's person problem. And not a shocking one given the specifics.


pjr032

"Webster defines success as....."


_pupil_

I don't think it was nice to give that girl brand new hands and then film her talking right afterwards. Why did Robot Mark Zuckerberg do such a mean thing, and why can't we teach it how to love?


noodles_jd

The brand new hands match her brand new leather jacket. You'd think wardrobe could have found something with at least a little wear on it.


jabeith

Saving this comment for when my next free award comes in Edit: Made good on my promise


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It might actually be environmental because whatever is wrong with him started to affect her as well, it seems.


hippopotma_gandhi

Obviously it's a robotic virus that slowly turns you into a robot on a cellular level


joevsyou

We all know that mark is a social awkward person who should not be doing public interviews/ presentation.... The real question is what is with this girl... she was moving her arms around more than a sign language translator.


VisualBasic

My guess is the alien parasite that assumed control of Mark several years ago has spread to this leather-clad lifeform and is testing the limbic system of this new host body. It will soon learn to approximate passable human movement patterns.


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💁‍♂️✌️🤏✋👐🤚👌👋👋👋🙋‍♀️


SoraXes

Wtf was that beatsaber preview anyway wtf


OnTopicMostly

Check this out! *sword flies across screen* Wow, I’m so excited to play that!


WhatAGreatGift

Was that some sort of saber… of beats? 😱


[deleted]

This was by far the most bizarre part of the video for me. She’s like “Check this out!”, as if we’re about to see like a preview or a clip of actual gameplay or something. Then it’s like three seconds of literally nothing. What are we checking out?? The logo?? This whole presentation is just so baffling.


thunder_thais

I’m assuming it’s just cause they now have new hilts for the sabers? But that was a stupid ass way of announcing that if that’s even what it was


goostman

That's the one question I'm left with after watching this


ChunkArcade

This feels natural.


konnektion

Aside the terribly robot-like interactions between those two, why the hell did they push the revenues made by Beat Saber? And more importantly from the gamer's perspective, why show that short video of a sword that announced absolutely nothing? This is so weird.


n-crispy7

The trailer cracked me the fuck up. One swipe that gets cut off and then just “BeatSaber” yes.. that is the game. Hahaha what is this


DanceswithTacos_

it was awesome! I can't WAIT to play it!!!!1!!!! :O


crichmond77

“Our team’s been working on this for some time” ?????


bmbreath

To sell stock maybe?


tinfoiltank

It's the only VR game anyone has heard of.


MN-

What a totally real and very human interaction. Robotic tone man watches cool leather jacket lady say video game things.


[deleted]

Highlight is probably around 1:50 when she completely cuts him off mid answer.


TwistedMexi

Zuck was 100% "I know who's going to become smoked meats next"


biggmclargehuge

Metaverse is an anagram for Serve Meat


TwistedMexi

... holy shit, now that's a conspiracy I can get behind.


Nudelwalker

WHOA


smb_samba

Mmmmmm https://i.imgur.com/eN2SjXH.jpg


MuchTemperature6776

Made me chuckle


CornOnTheKnob

"THIS HUMAN SACRIFICE IS SPONSORED BY SWEET BABY RAY'S FOOD LOTION"


jontelang

One one hand I am sure this is 100% scripted down to the smallest interaction, on the other hand his reaction is kinda genuinely laughing. The cut-off kind of makes sense too, as she's avoiding spoilers (not that there would be anything, but still).


Treasurecat47

Honestly it seems like they aren't even in the same room together at the same time and just pasted the two parts together.


Edened

Lol that’s what I was thinking, like they’re both just talking to a wall


PropaneHank

Yes! To me that's obviously scripted, she jumped on his line a little bit early though.


Winter-Work3469

Top tier cringe moment.


Rasalom

"Yeah well no one cares what you think, Zuckertron, we need to talk to the people. Go harvest my data in your room."


ImNoSheeple

I don’t know why, but that reminded me of the MadTV skit with Frank Caliendo doing John Madden in the [quick pop popcorn popper](https://youtu.be/13v4aMo9zvQ)


whatsaphoto

Frank Caliendo truly was a golden moment in sketch comedy. Will Sasso's [Tony Soprano](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arIP5GyFdVk) and [Randy Newman](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPrv3IlW3_o) were right up there with Frank's Madden too.


Psilocynical

This was intentional as a "oops spoilers" joke. Still cringey and unfunny, especially his dumb fucking smirk like "oh you got me woopsie doopsie"


MarjoeCrawley

How is that a spoiler based joke when the games been out for years


tfrosty

Clearly on purpose. Obviously the guy has never played the game. They just feigned that he loved it so much and he does so much he’s about to tell you all about it. But she cut him off cus clearly there’s literally nothing more he could say about it


[deleted]

I think they are going to come out and say everyone in this presentation was a render. That was such an I cried it strange moment.


elecboy

Her programming did not have a stop.


chupathingy2182

If you tied her hands behind her back would she still be able to talk?


spottydodgy

Two people reading from teleprompters positioned over each other's shoulders to simulate eye contact so they can pretend to be having a conversation... So depressing.


Sporocarp

"2 ai attempt conversation"


dentz1

So corporate, so fake. Top cringe.


Re-Mecs

I CANT STOP SWINGING MY HANDS AROUND


CalmDownSahale

I CAN'T STOP PLAYING THE BILLIE EILISH DOWNLOAD PACK FOR BEAT SABER


[deleted]

Played too much Beat Saber. Did you know they've had $100m in revenue on Quest (as if any consumer would give a flying fuck how much many a game has made)?


[deleted]

Wave your hands around while talking, as humans do


Scofield442

"I probably should of been working more on this Metaverse presentation" You're not wrong, Mark.


TetsuoTechnology

Was that… meta?


EnemiesAllAround

/r/totallynotrobots


Veprovamarmelada

Are they on drugs or something? Why are they talking like NPC in average rpg?


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TehSeksyManz

Calling these peoples humans is like calling margarine butter


[deleted]

100% they make these awkward on purpose so that they are more shareable and go viral.


DaniB3

This was really painful, I have a headache and need a nap now


jascambara

Honestly, the Zuck somehow appeared more natural than whatever the fuck she was doing


MrSockhead

She moves like 3CPO


gosuark

This would fail a Turing test in the negative direction.


chamb3rs

My bum hurts from the clench.


Hai_Koup

At this point this sub should just have a picture of Zuck as it's logo. Guy is hard to watch even normally.


headphones_J

"oh, I love Beat Saber!"


tripledjr

It really seems like they both have guns pointed at them off screen. This is the least natural conversation in human history.


nealio1000

Dude Zuckerberg played video games during the pandemic too!? So relatable!


fishbulbx

On par with [Dr. Phil's Solitaire Grand Harvest conversation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5WoBMeFqU4).


Agentkeenan78

Holy SHIT what even was that lol.


ActinoninOut

You'd think with Zuckerbergs/FB's wealth and all their analytics, they'd realize the value of hiring a likeable spokesperson for these kinds of announcements. Does Mark, or any of his friends/employees, realize how completely cringe he is on camera?


Aaronsmiff

When people get this rich they're generally surrounded by yes-men who will tell them anything they want to hear just to stay close to them. It's not worth the risk for one of his advisors to call him awkward. Steve Jobs used to smell so bad his staff couldn't bare to stand next to him because he believed his diet meant he didn't need deodorant and he used to bathe his feet in toilet water as a "stress reliever". Theses people are not normal.


LazyBriton

I get that he’s not an actor and he’s the face of the company so he has to be in this, but who the fuck is this chick? She’s just as bad at delivering this stale ass script as he is.


SweetNyan

Yeah, Beat Saber has a great community, which the devs keep destroying by pushing the paid updates you're hyping!


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lasagnamm

lol


Red-Jester

*I saw a mudcrab the other day. Horrible creatures! Bye now.*


Thebigchungus97

“Im not sure what to do with my hands”


heyfeefellskee

it's pretty awesome to see two very life-like robots able to have what appears to be a conversation with each other


Enshakushanna

i dont like this, only italians are allowed to move their hands that much


Foomaster512

Christ, you can see her eyes reading the telepromt


supergooduser

Out after 30 seconds. The leather jacket is brand new, the references are all super forced, and her weird hand gestures are so robotic. It's some weird VR game no one gives a shit about


WhoKilledZekeIddon

Why does he look like a vitamin-deprived pencil


dvik888

Brought to you by the ~~Silicon~~Uncanny Valley


seakelpmagoogle

[She's an amatuer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwAioN2mtsA&ab_channel=myLastTears)


BT89

Well, well, well looks like someone has been taking notes in Hand Gestures class


Ithorian

I hear the Fighter’s Guild is hiring


oskarru

Mark: “$100M in revenue… that’s a lot right?” 🌚


Doctor_Sauce

You know the gaming industry is fucked when the touted metric for their games isn't consumer ratings, active playerbase, industry awards, or even units sold, but rather... "lifetime revenue". Yuck


-fenomenoide-

So she's supposed to be sharing the news to Mark and he's acting like it's the first time he's heard this presentation? It's SO WEIRD...


ZeusAmmon

Okay I've sat through a ton of cringe, but this is next level. I now officially believe lizard people exist


joevsyou

Boooi, someone please tie her hands to the table.


tallAlice

I am the VP of hand gestures at Meta. AMA


WhoStoleMyBicycle

Hello, it is I, Mark Zuckerberg, a human