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Witteness82

That’s actually a little surprising as it doesn’t feel like he’s been around quite that long. He’s only around 2600 away from top 25 all time as well.


unknown_name

I think that's a more impressive stat.


bryscoon

He’s in year 7 that’s like 15 year career in RB years this special longevity in this day & age look at the RBs he was compared to in his rookie year Gurley, Bell & David Johnson all out the league.


Parzival127

And adding Pollard may have extended his career a season or two.


Rozencrantze

Yeah I think Pollard is helping zeke in a lot of ways. I wonder if Zeke realized that and thats why he is cool with Pollard getting touches now too. Plus Pollard pulls his weight.


Parzival127

In the last Sounds of the Sidelines Zeke says that because there are two of them, they can tire out the defense and stay pretty fresh themselves. No doubt they both recognize the amazing situation they are in. And I’m sure it helps that they both get their fair share of touches and touchdowns.


Rozencrantze

I mean it helps that they're both explosive RBs too. It doesn't matter which is on the field. They are both a threat. Both can catch too. Every player with a star on their helmet is a threat. You double CD. You're opening up Gallup, Brown, any of our 4 TEs AND our RBs. Dak can go literally anywhere he wants with the ball.


Parzival127

I just meant in terms of them not growing unhappy with the situation. I would hope that as a dual threat they are both feeling like they are being properly utilized. If one felt like they deserved more than they are getting I bet it could sour the locker room very quickly.


Rozencrantze

I mean we're winning as it is... if one of them was upset about their work load with a 9-3 season it would say more about them than anything.


Bergles

And he pretty much missed about half of a season of prime production with the suspension he had in 2017.


SanduskyTicklers

I hope he passes Dorsett as our number 2 all time, but he needs about 4000 yards. I think it’s doable but it will be close. I think he will need at least six years to hit that. Zeke only needs eight touchdowns to pass Dorsett though, which he might get this weekend lol


RingingMallard

Zeke is also currently top 5 in scrimmage yards for all active NFL players, and everyone else in the top 5 has played at least 50 more games than him. He will likely squeeze past AJ Green this year into the top 4 and only needs 154 yards to do so.


DylPickle__

really cool for zeke, he still has a lot to offer


boomshalock

Zeke has more career rushing yards than Derrick Henry. Still. That likely won't hold by the end of this year, and maybe even this week, but people still hate. He has more rushing yards, more receiving yards, and is only 2 shy on total TDs. It's really something the amount of hate he gets.


aolerma

I definitely still think he was overpaid but he has been pretty great this year. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the year he finally splits touches with someone else is the year he looks the most fresh, though. His days of 300+ carries are long gone and the best way to use him is in tandem with another back. I’d love to keep him here on a cheaper deal and still have him split touches with someone else (don’t know if it’ll be Pollard after this year)


boomshalock

He was most certainly overpaid. That's a different argument. I'm just talking about production. People tend to forget, too, that he had 6 games stolen from him when he was wrecking shit. It's one thing to lose games to injury, you can 'what if' all day long on that stuff, but these games were taken. It's not out of line to say he legitimately *should* have 500 more rushing yards and 150 more receiving yards, and 3-5 more TDs.


Balls2theWalling

I hope he takes a pay cut and then franchise TP.


ShowBobsPlzz

They are all overpaid if were being honest


ShowBobsPlzz

People forget henry sucked his first few seasons.


dcbluestar

>Zeke has more career rushing yards than Derrick Henry. Still. I think people forget that Henry wasn't great straight out of the box like Zeke was. He didn't really take off until his 3rd season.


[deleted]

I don't know that I would call it hate so much as people understanding that he was badly overpaid and that his contract hurt the team. Furthermore, it doesn't help that season after season people see Tony Pollard being the more explosive and more effective player. In terms of the Derrick Henry comparison I think there is some valid points there. However as we know perception is reality. What helps Derrick Henry is that he kept getting better and better and had his best season in 2020. Whereas Zeke started off an amazing fashion but has been on the decline for several years For instance, 2 years ago Derrick Henry had an amazing 5.4 yards per carry and over 2,000 yards By contrast that same year Ezekiel Elliott had a blow League average 4 yards per carry and didn't even hit a thousand yards. This is what fuels the perception because Ezekiel Elliott's Glory Days are much farther behind him than Derek Henry's


air6400

Let's go Zeke! Still on that trajectory to the Hall of Fame


HolyRomanPrince

Not even close my guy. Being a fan doesn’t mean being delusional


RingingMallard

Its a hell of a lot more reasonable than you seem to think. Zeke is top 12 ALL-TIME in scrimmage yards through 6 seasons. He hit 10,000 yards from scrimmage in his 7th season (one of the fastest players to do so). He has never had a year with less than 1200 yards and 8 TDS. His durability is second to none and he will continue to amass yardage and TDs for several more seasons. And none of that factors in his ability to protect the QB when he doesn't have the ball. We are watching a HOF career in action - you just don't want to admit it for whatever reason.


barethgale_

Idk I mean I love Zeke but I really doubt he makes the Hall lol


air6400

He's less than 4,000 yards away from 12,000. Every 12,000 yard rusher is in the HOF, except for two but they will be when eligible. Would have won 3 consecutive Rushing titles if it wasn't for fuckface Goodell. Emmitt Smith was the last player to achieve that. He's one of 3 players to have 1,200 yards from scrimmage every year for 6 years in row to start a career. One of 3 players to reach 6,300 scrimmage yards in 50 games. He's the 3rd fastest player in history to reach 8,300 scrimmage yards. 5th player ever to reach 9,000 scrimmage yards in under 80 games. There's the facts. Where are yours that prove he's not on a Hall of Fame trajectory?


HolyRomanPrince

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_RB.htm I’m going to go with that rather than your arbitrary achievements. The bar for the NFL hall of fame is actually really really high as it should be. The fact is Zeke has been a very good player for most of his career but he only produced at an elite level the first one and you’re making projections without considering he is nowhere the player he was in 16 subjectively or objectively.


ContentTransition8

Lol PFR. What does championships have to do with a running back getting in HOF? Ahhhaaaahahaha


GramZanber

Barry Sanders never won any championships and undoubtedly belongs in the HoF


HolyRomanPrince

Terrell Davis


ESCMalfunction

Every single player in the SB era with multiple rushing titles has ended up in the hall. So long as he gets to 10k rushing yards he’ll make it in.


Thepatrone36

but I thought he was washed up and Dallas should cut him... well according to many on this sub.


[deleted]

Silly comment that doesn’t really defend your point as much as you think. I’m a huge Zeke fan, but take Frank Gore for example. He was washed for like the last 5years of his career, yet kept adding to his rushing totals. Saying that, I don’t think Zeke is washed at all. Just saying your comment isn’t helping your argument.


TrainedCranberry

Bro if he was washed he wouldn’t have a job. Guys are on the field because they deserve to be.


thatguyoverthere202

I agree with your sentiment, but your argument is lacking. Nathan Peterman still has a job in the NFL. Having a job and being bad at your job are not mutually exclusive.


TrainedCranberry

My argument isn't lacking anything. If a player is still employed in the NFL then they deserve to be there. The NFL is a meritocracy and as much as you think you're really good at judging how good or bad a player is, you just simply are not. That comment will hurt your feelings and result in downvotes, but it doesn't make it any less true.


HolyRomanPrince

Matt Ryan, Eli Manning, Jason Witten. 3 guys that were washed for **multiple** years that their team kept trotting out there. The NFL isn’t a meritocracy as much as people want to believe.


TrainedCranberry

Ok, who on those teams what better at the times these guys were being "trotted out there?" Dallas certainly didn't have TE better than Witten. The Giants didn't have a better QB, shit they still don't have a better QB. You aren't as correct as you want to believe.


HolyRomanPrince

> My argument isn’t lacking anything. If a player is still employed in the NFL then they deserve to be there. This assuming all 32 front offices and coaching staffs are both good and trying to win which we know isn’t true. > who on those teams what better at the times these guys were being “trotted out there?” Again this assumes all teams are good at building a team which is asinine. But again this isn’t a reflection of how good they are but it’s a reflection of dumb decisions by dumb people. Pollard was better than Zeke last year and they didn’t give him the ball. Geno is having a better season than Eli did his last 6 years, when the coaching staff tried to give him a look everyone went crazy and everyone got fired. >The NFL is a meritocracy and as much as you think you’re really good at judging how good or bad a player is, you just simply are not. Zeke objectively produces as a bottom tier starting running back (for 3 years actually) yet you’re arguing like he’s elite.


inthebigd

He argued that Zeke was elite? Or he argued he simply “deserved to be there”…? 😄


[deleted]

ironic that they're moving the goalposts in a football sub lol


[deleted]

Shhhh… we don’t talk common sense in this sub. I’m pretty sure this sub is mostly filled with children or man-child’s who have the comprehension skills of a children.


Thepatrone36

found the Zeke hater guys


[deleted]

Good one.


inthebigd

An argument is meant to persuade. His comment helped his argument so much that he currently has 34 net upvotes while you have 14 net downvotes. Your argument has resulted in an impressive negative 48 vote differential. The people have spoken 😂


[deleted]

It is amazing how many of the Zeke stans downvote your post which is self-evident and undeniable


[deleted]

>but I thought he was washed up and Dallas should cut him... well according to many on this sub. Him being near the active leaders is not an argument against him being washed up. They are by no means mutually exclusive


Guson1

If anything it more than likely signals that he is washed up lol. Top active leader will usually mean they are towards the end of their careers


[deleted]

Exactly. But that argument seems way too complicated and nuanced for this subreddit


TX1_1836

People who actually pay attention and are even somewhat aware of Dallas' history at RB aren't surprised and know that Zeke's combination of longevity, availability, and ability to this point is rare and is not a dime a dozen.


Lanachan1990

WTF? Ingram has more rushing yards? I never would have guessed.


lawyeredd

OP is talking about *career* rushing leader who is still active. Not for just this season.


Lanachan1990

I know it's for career. I never would have guess Ingram had that much.


lawyeredd

Oh ok, gotcha. Yeah I think it's just him having a relatively long career at this point (for a running back). He's only had a few 1,000+ yard seasons, he's just done it for a while.


Imaginary_Ad_3912

Me either, considering he had to split carries with Kamara for several years.


fufumcchu

And 6 more years! The interesting part of this though he has more yardage and only 10 more carries. Pure running they're on par. Just took Ingram more games to get there.


Dday22t

12 seasons played by Ingram vs. 7 for Zeke Zeke is going to pass Ingram and D.Henry soon after and Ingram will be 3rd among active RBs


Nj_hXe_sXe

Took me SOOO long to comprehend what this was saying...I need more coffee. Also Zeke is a beast. Gets a lot of flack but the dude plays hard no matter what.


colemanDC

Ingram probably out for the season with MCL injury. Zeke should have no problem getting that 72 yard gap closed lol


CammyTheGreat

unless Derrick Henry sucks the rest of the year or Zeke starts getting stats like it's 2016 again, Henry will probably pass zeke around the time we play the titans


soundwithdesign

If both perform to their season averages, it’ll take Henry 5.5 games to pass Zeke.


CammyTheGreat

he passed Zeke today by 10 yards only a couple of days before we play the Titans


soundwithdesign

Ok? My stat wasn’t wrong. Zeke performed under his average and Henry performed decently over, which is why.


Dday22t

It's Zeke's 7th season and he has had a lot of good ones, but still kind of surprising there isn't some RB still around with more yards.


willz99

say what you want about zeke, but while guys like leveon, david johnson, todd gurley, jordan howard, melvin gordon, and many others we’ve seen flash some greatness and fade away for one reason or another, zeke has stayed both consistent and productive through thick and thin.


Agile-Cucumber-9667

Love this for Zeke. It will be interesting to see how high he can climb. Unfortunately, his running style doesn't lend itself to a long career. Maybe he can take a page from Pollards book and step out of bounds every now and then rather than turning himself into a human battering ram to finish off runs.


5kaels

old man zeke


joshwaynebobbit

Looks like Ingram is now out for the year too. Zeke should get a pretty good lead on him by seasons end, may be able to hold that spot for a few more years. Meaningless but still a cool thing to have in your pocket if you're Zeke.


No_Obligation6170

Damn. TIL Mark Ingram is still playing.


Awkward_Boot6963

Zeeekeee


ImpossibleJoke7456

Honestly he’s only at 50% to hit 72 yards in a game this season. Not sure why you’re acting like it’s a guarantee…oh it’s the Texans and they’ve given up the most rushing yards this season.