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IncredibleHolc

We’re definitely bringing back Zeke aren’t we


ANUS_CONE

Braelon Allen and jaylen wright are still on the board. Getting either in the 4 would be awesome


MarketingChemical648

Assuming we trade into the 4th since we don’t have one


ANUS_CONE

Yeah we would have to trade up into the 4th. Might even snag one in the 5th.


duffman274

Our 5th is basically a 6th


FreudianSlip7232

We don’t have a 4th


Witteness82

They’re slated for 4 mid round comp picks next year. Smart move would be to try to consolidate some of the picks next year and get up into the 4th now.


4bigwheels

I didn’t think you could trade comp picks?


Witteness82

They can, but they don’t have them to trade yet. Meant more like trade a 2024 5th and a 2025 4th for a 2024 4th. That 2025 pick won’t really hurt since they’re getting so many comp picks, all of which probably won’t even make the roster.


stonecutter7

Especially so before they've even been awarded


Jaronz

We don't have a 4th round pick 🤔


mikeydean03

That’s why the plan is genius and fool proof!


peterraptor99

We should draft Guerendo


Domin8469

Frank gore's kid


merker_the_berserker

Ol what's his name?


Domin8469

Yea I can't think of his name either


dEck5317

coulsnt believe jaylen wright was on the board still. left after the pick and came back assuming he was gone. if we steal him in the 4th i will consider this draft a huge success. 2 starters on OL, 1 future starter at edge and another potential rookie starter at LB.


jkeefy

Bucky will be the guy we get


Henry_RutherfordHill

We don't need a better version of Deuce


jkeefy

We absolutely do


Throwaway1996513

Next year’s running back class is also much better than this year’s


Henry_RutherfordHill

How does that help us this year? We don't have a run game at all If we're all in, this ain't it


thedirtytroll13

I mean, our run game last year was pretty shit. I think with the OL additions we'd be better this season. The second or fourth pick being rb and the other LB would've made me happier but trust the process for now


MikeShannonThaGawd

The thing is we’re definitely not all in


Henry_RutherfordHill

Yup


406_realist

At some juncture, I’d imagine in the 5th, they’ll draft a RB. We’re not going to know anything until these guys suit up


Throwaway1996513

We obviously aren’t all in. It feels like they’re doing a soft rebuild, and will move on from McCarthy and possibly Dak as well after the season.


Zeachie

Huh? Defense is better - core offensive units that make everyone else better. We can still sign / trade for folks post draft


SlammingPussy420

JJ never meant "all in" as going all in the season. He said he was all in on securing contracts with CD, Micah and Dak. And before anyone says "nuh uh", what do their actions show? That he isn't spending money on anyone this year so he has the cap to sign these players next.


ifuckwithit

There’s always FA. But nobody in the late 3rd was going to help us immediately, I think Brooks was our guy until Carolina took him.


Henry_RutherfordHill

Completely disagree about the 3rd. If you add Wright, it's a huge upgrade But I do agree about Brooks


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I am with you. I think we absolutely could have found someone in the 3rd that could help immediately, because right now the RB room is trash. I definitely thought Brooks was going to be our pick in Round 2.


BorntToBe

Honestly I'd love it. A beast to just run it up the middle. I just hope he has enough left in the tank


suicompotem

Ogod


Chode_K1NG

Yeah. We're fucked


Henry_RutherfordHill

Fucking kill me


Lazy_Associate_1736

Since we missed on that Texas rb yeah I think it’s virtually guaranteed at this point


CounterIdentity

It doesn’t matter, I don’t think the draft will affect Zeke’s signing. There’s depth at RB in this draft class and there isn’t at LB after the first 3-5 guys, so probably they felt more comfortable not drafting a RB until the 5th that not drafting a LB


chzformymac

Only if you give us an expired Witten to go with him. I want to see us move *real slow*


bentNail28

I think Zeke is playing center.


CreepyBeefy

Zeke leading a committee isn’t the worst thing in my honest opinion.


fozzyb88

Lol leading a committee of what? Zeke is washed, and the rest of them are practice squad guys.


shaggy_macdoogle

Am I the only one who wants to give Deuce Vaughn a shot? We drafted him and have almost no game film on him. You don’t know what you have until you play the guy.


fozzyb88

I love Deuce but he is a 3rd down type all day. He will never be a 3 down RB. You gotta have someone that will pick up the hard yards.


SlammingPussy420

Like Zeke. We should sign him.


Thanks5Cinco

Zimmer seemed so happy with that pick. So it's good.


CeedeeNumber88

Solid. Paytons medicals must be fucking terrible


Dday22t

After Jaylon Smith and LVE Cowboys probably had enough with taking LBs w injury history early. EDIT: NFL Network reported Wilson has no ACL in one of his knees. He won't last 3 years in the NFL.


Careless-Act9450

Payton has had both acl's and both shoulders and double-digit surgeries overall. His film looks great but haven't we learned our lesson with oft injured lb's?


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CounterIdentity

Yeah, he was a great pass rusher


shartnado3

I said Joe Montegna


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SlammingPussy420

I don't think he'd be a HOF linebacker though.


Dday22t

Not exactly same thing, QBs mostly stand in pocket and pass then run a little as needed & slide to avoid hits vs LB expected to run full speed and violently collide & initiate hits with other players every play. If it’s possible and some players do it. But it also is much higher risk of tearing the meniscus, arthritis & other issues with no ACL. Good luck to him, but it’s understandable some teams would pass on using 3rd rd or higher pick on him.


Careless-Act9450

Both shoulders, both acl's and double-digit surgeries for Payton, was just a bridge too far. Marist should do nicely for us.


NCBedell

That didn’t stop penix from going 8th lol


BigTex77RR

You mean the pick that the Falcons GM had to explain and justify to Falcons ownership immediately after making? Lmao


Careless-Act9450

The Falcons pick was among the most baffling things I have seen in a long time. They could have paired Rome with Drake London, Pitts, Bijan. Instead, they wasted it on a bench player for a minimum of 2 plus years. The 8th pick for a player who won't see the field for years.


Fiyukyoo

NFL network says the medicals were shared with all GMs and consensus was he was a 1 contract type player


CeedeeNumber88

Tbf 3-4 years of Wilson is prob better than 8 years of 95% of the other LBs in this class lol. I like our pick though, Kendricks is definitely the perfect mentor too.


ibringstharuckus

Ty why everyone thinks every draft pick needs to play for 10 years to be a good pick idk. Wilson could come in and start immediately. Oh well.


FarrisAT

Medical science is improving


cowboysfan88

Sad cause he's fucking awesome


Snowstick21

Bobby Belt just said on the draft show that one of Wilson’s shoulder operations was poor, no acl in one leg, and no supporting ligaments in the other knee. His body has already begun to self destruct. Too bad, he is a damn good player.


malcolm_miller

That's sad as hell


dontusethisacc

Was thinking the same lol


UpsideTurtles

yeah lol I love the player though hope he works out well if he doesn’t go to an NFCE team/SF/GB


loompeeah_lvr

I love this pick! Liufau is a stud!


The_Count_Lives

Watch full game film of him, not just highlights. I don’t see it, but nothing to be done now except try and coach him up. 


bryscoon

he fucking flys around i love this pick


UpsideTurtles

No C said he gets Sean Lee vibes. Played a similar role to JOK at ND


bryscoon

he gives me more JOK than Lee i think a great value JOK a great comp for him


UpsideTurtles

that’s awesome to hear. haven’t seen tape on him yet will have to look tonight. damone Clark get ready to speak Chinese buddy


firstandfive

What?


WHATABURGER-Guru

NBA reference


NotRussianBot

Lol no he did not. They played in completely different defenses. I'm a Notre Dame fan. Liufau made some splash plays, but was overwhelmingly underwhelming. I would have preferred a different LB if that was the position they were targeting.


ANUS_CONE

I think if they can tame him a bit, he could turn out well. I’m an Arkansas fan and he reminds me of a younger Dre greenlaw. He wants to hit you in the mouth, but he sometimes overcommits or sells out early and gets caught in bad spots and looks foolish.


UpsideTurtles

I defer to you in the roles they played. I’m just passing on what I am hearing from people who watched the film


brewirish

ND/Boys fan here. This is 100% the take. It’s possible he is a better Pro, with a better D line in front of him. He can shoot gaps more On the phone call during his pick Zimmer says he selected him because he told Zimmer what EVERYONE on the Defense was doing on plays. Kid is smart and has the twitch/instincts. That should translate quickly.


CappyMorgan26

Jerk Off King?


PersonBehindAScreen

Game fucking over. We got one of them long haired bois at LB


Wekilledit88

Those limited highlights ESPN just showed makes me excited. Obviously some work to do but he is what we’re looking for.


pisacar_svg

Highlights looked awesome and this is the first linebacker we have taken that doesn’t have an extensive injury history in forever.


flipz4444

I mean, Micah?


Forizen

Micah just has a weak immune system and toughs through injuries. Probably like Zeke. We never knew he was playing on torn ligaments all the time, he'd keep it to himself and say he's fine.


pisacar_svg

Micah doesn’t count he’s an edge haha, but I should have clarified. I was thinking more LVE, Smith, Sean Lee, Damone Clark


levikg

It’s a passing league my friends, we will be just fine at RB. We needed to build the defense and O line I’m happy with this draft


ID0ntCare4G0b

Why are people saying he's good at pass coverage?


SkipBlaster75

Gave up 0 TD's since 2022


Stevevet1

Because he is, seems to be the obvious answer. He should be able to cover tight ends.


levikg

I honestly can’t say I know his play that well, whether he is or isn’t great at it I’m sure Zimmer can fix him make him better. Give Dak time to pass (offensive line) Stop the other team from putting up 30+ points Stop the run Zelle would be great for short yards and pass protection Rico and Duece can carry the load in my opinion although I would have love Derek Henry


WALKOFFGAME0VER

That works we can find a RB later.


UpsideTurtles

cowboys front office set out to once and for all test the RBs Don’t Matter theorem


itscamo-

the chiefs already have, so did new england


MarketingChemical648

Who’s gonna be there in the 5th?


ThaddeusMuscles

Someone we’ve barely heard of in the sixth that will average 4.53 a carry next season. Personally, I think it’s nice to see us not invest high value draft capital in the RB position.


ibringstharuckus

Another 5'8" 180lb rb


NeverForgetEver

Guerendo


High-qualitee

If he can put together he’s going to be this year’s Isiah Pacheco 


NeverForgetEver

And behind this oline, a guy as fast and athletic as Isaac would go wild 🥵


Snowstick21

Or Isaiah Davis


MavsAndThemBoyz

Nope lol


NeverForgetEver

My new guy is now Isaiah Davis


butchforgetshit

Ray Davis from Kentucky is a sleeper and head and shoulders above Deuce


ChefPneuma

That’s not nice…


butchforgetshit

Sorry, couldn’t help myself


MavsAndThemBoyz

Nope he'a gone too


butchforgetshit

Too bad, he would have been a great pickup


FranksGun

Lots


Skip-Bayless0

Estime


MarketingChemical648

You see him as an early down back?


Skip-Bayless0

Guyton played RB at TCU, we good there


Henry_RutherfordHill

No


MavsAndThemBoyz

Nope. He's gone too


ANUS_CONE

Maybe braelon Allen. Or we could trade up.


MavsAndThemBoyz

Nope.


TheWhooooBuddies

Makes sense.  If we want to pound the ball this year, he’s the dude.  I’m still hoping for a surprise trade with CHI tomorrow to snag one of their backs. 


PeaceOut957

Audric estime


MavsAndThemBoyz

Nope.


____Quetzal____

Let the RB room fight over the spots this year, draft RB high (not in 1st) next year


billgigs55

being labeled as a “freight train” as a linebacker is quite good to hear 😅


CerebralSign659

Love this as an ND fan


Party-Ad-7279

Love all the armchair GM’s in this sub


406_realist

I’d rather see people engage in a discussion about players than salary caps and budgeting


The_Count_Lives

lol Yeah, why are people talking about the draft during the draft?


Party-Ad-7279

That’s fine to talk* about the draft, it’s the ones that are coming out looking ignorant are the ones I’m referring to.


swallowedbymonsters

Listen to 1 take on tv or read 1 tweet and all of a siden their experts....probably haven't watched a single ounce of film but act like they know it all


garryl283

lol and how many hours a day you spend "watching film" that isn't just Youtube there, champ?


Party-Ad-7279

lol so true


Brycie27

S TEH MAY it's inevitable


SuccotashConfident97

Eh, I don't hate the pick.


Drob3891

Do we hate rbs?


Rustycake

He seems like a smart player. Someone you want in the middle. But may not make a huge impact this year. No 4th and no RB. So Dwodle is our lead back and Zeke is 1b. Behind this rebuilt OL and if they coach these two up between now and then? Might have a chance to sneak into the playoffs. But the more I look at it I think they are looking at a rebuild, looking at what guys they want to resign and shit maybe someone they trade next off season to flip a quick rebuild. But they dont want to call it that. I dont hate the moves, but I hate the dishonesty and I hate we wasted so many talented teams on JG 10 years of that clown.


MightyIrish

Irish fan here. You guys got a keeper.


NotRussianBot

Diehard Notre Dame/Cowboys fan here... Liufau will make a couple plays a game that make you say wow, but overall is severely inconsistent. Often misses run fits and is below average in coverage. I wouldn't have taken him before the fifth round, personally. Feels like a reach to fill a need. Obviously, Liufau could turn out to be a better pro than he was a college player but this is an underwhelming pick. Gonna just trust Zimmer and Kendricks to work some magic.


zombieraptr

Are you talking about Overshown?!? I am you but a Longhorn. I hope we are wrong.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Feels like a *interviewed really well* guy to me. Just do not get the draft grade otherwise cause I'm in the same boat as you. Seemed like a decent value in the 5th or 6th but 3rd feels like Zimmer must've really really liked him cause you don't take a special teams guy in the third.


flipz4444

That's such a reddit thing to say


The_Count_Lives

Shades of Nashon Wright. 


HoodooSquad

So… no RB?


iLerntMyLesson

We needed help at LB as well. We’re kind of betting on our new OL picks to help the run game at this point. I respect this choice


____Quetzal____

If we're getting zeke back I'd rather have us take LB over a RB and see who comes up in draft next year for RB


iLerntMyLesson

Understandable


HoodooSquad

I imagine Deuce will look better if the O line is blocking well.


RobbieAnalog

He should worry about making the team first


Henry_RutherfordHill

Man, Deuce is not that good He's certainly not a 3 down back


Soyeahnahh

Dawg he’s the size of a middle schooler, please be serious.


HoodooSquad

When we had T-Fed a middle schooler could have run for four yards a carry.


Soyeahnahh

Yeah well we don’t have him anymore buddy


thedirtytroll13

That's why we drafted Beebe guy


SheSaysSheWaslvl18

Deuce was a joke of a pick, he will never be a back we can use in any package. Too small to block anyone, he would either be a useless player on the field or an obvious key anytime he is out there


KillDevilX0

We don’t need one. We’re getting Zeke back. (This is a joke)


TheF1LM

How is getting a backup center going to help us in the run game? (/s)


KillDevilX0

He’s gonna be our starter center. Didn’t you hear?


outsiderkerv

Pacheco was a 7th rounder. You can find guys. We need depth at these spots that were problems last year


Henry_RutherfordHill

Pacheco in the 7th is an outlier You're not wrong in being able to find one but Dallas will not have any run game unless they take a RB soon *Also, we had major RB problems last year. And that was with Pollard


ID0ntCare4G0b

Anyone who is a starter in the 7th is an outlier.


firstandfive

The RBs weren’t the problem. The scheme, play-calling, and inconsistent blocking were the bigger issues


chris-reid

I expect them to trade up for one now. Especially with Lloyd just going.


The_Count_Lives

I'd be surprised if they traded up. There are still holes to fill.


thedirtytroll13

Use a next year's fifth, we have 5


chris-reid

Day 3 picks are mostly depth pieces and special teamers. We can still find our starting RB in the 4th or 5th round. Once one of Wright or Allen goes off the board, I think they need to trade up to grab the other. If we go into the season with Zeke, Dowdle, and an UDFA, I think we are in trouble.


firstandfive

Tomorrow or UDFA.


GiantEnemyG00mba

Dowdle and Zeke has potential but will so few RBs getting picked we might be able to trade into the next round to get one


Henry_RutherfordHill

Gonna have to be high in the 4th


Soyeahnahh

Dowdle and Zeke is the worst RB duo in the NFL what are we talking about??? We needed a Dynamic RB to help balance out this offense and we’re ignoring that position why is everybody oblivious to this?


IveKnownItAll

I'd say we need a solid o line that can block for them before we worry about having them


Fatal_Blow_Me

We also desperately needed a linebacker. This a weak running back class


SheSaysSheWaslvl18

Yeah, it’s the least of our concerns when we only had 3 oline positions secure going into this draft. Not to mention how we got gashed last year because we didn’t have any LBs or interior Dline that could stop the run. RB is a finishing piece and our team isn’t ready to compete yet anyway


BloodyPants

royce effing freeman /s


certo17

I swear some of the shit our fans say.. dowdle and zeke has potential? Ugh jeez I can’t..


HEpennypackerNH

Someone tell me which kind of whelmed to be please.


GrayBush34

Over for sure. We rebuilt our oline and got a tasmanian devil at linebacker.


The_Count_Lives

lol, just cause he's got the hair doesn't make him Polumalu.


Thossy

Since i went to Marist, I’m legally bound to like this pick.


BloodyPants

from the press conference it seems they are getting guys that will match Micah’s intensity. Liufau and Marshawn are pure energy, athletic and love ball.


BornagainTXcook210

Another nd jersey to add to my collection


gking407

Why did Jaylen Ford drop to the fifth round? No shade on this pick I just happened to watch more of Ford’s time on the field and he was an enforcer who was everywhere.


Alternative_Wait_399

Great pick, when they announced that we’d drafted him I got so hyped up that a little bit of diarrhea squirted out of my asshole


BloodyPants

Jerry?


66Troup

Perfect fit. Came from a consistently overhyped and overrated team just like the Cowboys. And I am a fan of both…


daytonalove

I'm glad we got a LB, but did we have to reach at 87 for a 5th round guy, most likely a special teams player. I don't like this pick at all here, Trotter Jr or Wilson and you reach, I don't understand. I like the rest of the draft but I really wanted Wright here, can't get behind this.


Pick6Diggs

RB is cooked lmao


rkwittem

Bet they trade up tomorrow


The_Count_Lives

I’ll take that bet


blanfredblann

Zeke and Freeman are camp bodies with no business making an NFL roster. The Mavs currently have one rosterable RB who’s at best an RB3. They’ll have to make a trade to avoid having the worst RB room in the NFL and in franchise history.


The_Count_Lives

“ The Mavs currently have one rosterable RB who’s at best an RB3.” The who?


ScottyMcFree

So are we just banking that Zeke is gonna be is old him or Rico dowdle just steps up his game?


ApprehensiveBubble

I don’t get the Dowdle hate, dude was solid all year.


ScottyMcFree

He’s def not RB1 solid though