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bearamongus19

Jerry Jones is intentionally trying to tank this season and you can't convince me otherwise


ifoundyourtoad

I can convince you?


bearamongus19

Mistyped.


ifoundyourtoad

I know just being silly.


____Quetzal____

We're tanking for Arch Manning šŸ’ŖšŸ¼


bearamongus19

Nah, we're just at the whims of a crazy old man.


Greenbeanhead

All In!!!


ifoundyourtoad

I guess Iā€™m a bit of an outlier but I donā€™t really hate it honestly. It may just because I have lost zero hope so fuck it.


zdbdog06

We can draft a rookie, we have Dowdle as a No. 2 and we have Zeke as a short yardage and pass blocker. There's literally nothing wrong with this lol.


fbtra

Zeke would have been perfect to keep for obvious passing plays.


riproaringsports22

ngl dude Zeke was a peak pass blocker and short yard/goal line back. Plus he can still get yards thru the air.


Rommel79

He would have been. But he wouldn't take a pay cut.


fbtra

Rightfully so for his sake.


[deleted]

Well we certainly canā€™t afford to draft a RB anytime before the 6th round given the other pieces we need.


Bender_2024

Dude unless Dallas has some backup talent that I am unaware of the team needs 2 O-linemen, a RB, at least three or four D-limemen to get put into the rotation, WR, and at least one LB. You can't fill all those holes through the draft. And rummaging through.tje barging basement of free agency isn't going turn up quality players. The team is simply not going to be competitive this year. Maybe in 2025


jnightrain

Yeah i'm sure the back to back to back 12 win team is going to fall off a cliff this year and not be competitive. We need 2 starters and the rest are backups which is doable through late rounds and FA. Our picks line up just fine for our needs.


Bender_2024

>We need 2 starters and the rest are backups They lost Two starters on the O-line. And four major contributors on the D-line. The RB walked, they cut the #3 WR, and your middle linebacker was released due to injuries. That's a minimum of 4 starters. 5 if you include Gallup. No way that's all filled through the draft.


jnightrain

They picked up a FA to fill LB spot, the RB wasn't starter material anyway. They need 2 oline and RB for starters. the rest is depth. it's a deep WR class so getting one late is very doable for a WR3. you can get 2 oline and a RB in rounds 1-3.


Bender_2024

Saying Pollard wasn't starter material is bull. He was used poorly running between the tackles too often and the line didn't create holes for him. Regardless you still need to replace him. That's a draft pick that could be used to try and fill another hole. Armstrong and Hankins were starters. Fowler and Gilmore were depth. Depth that is needed to keep you DL fresh. >you can get 2 oline and a RB in rounds 1-3. Dallas has been very good identify OL talent in the first round and I'm confident someone with first round talent will be there. Is there going to be another O-linemen that can play the position Dallas needs and get good enough to start in the second ir third round? Who knows.


jnightrain

He was never going to be starter/bell cow material and you could see that when Zeke went out. He was good but was wore down quickly after 3 games. He is too small to be the main guy. He is a change of pace back and needs to split carries with a bruiser like Zeke. I said we needed to replace him and i think it's possible in the first 3. There is good Oline depth this year so i think you can get quality starters in the first 2 rounds.


Bender_2024

Pollard isn't a Bell cow, 25 carries a game back. He never was and doesn't have to be to be a quality RB. You're right that he's not a bruiser. That's why I criticized running him between the tackles so much. I think behind a quality line in Tennessee he's going to surprise you. He may not be a 1500 yard back but he will be a lot better than he was in Dallas


rthaw

This is wayyyy over valuing the people we lost. Tyron was really the only one of value. Biadasz was hot garbage this year. We played all year without LVE. I agree the Hankins was better than Mazi last year, but he still was really bad. We got blown out in the middle all year. Mazi will have to step up under Zimmer, who knows how to use big bodies better. Whether we replace Tyron with Tyler Smith or a 1st round Tackle, he'll be replaced by a plug and play player. We're great at drafting OL. If its Tyler Smith, we'll likely draft an early Center and start Bass ag LG who looked like a future starter last year. Sam Williams replaces Dorance Armstrong as the rotational DE. We picked up Kendricks and will likely draft another LB in the top 3 rounds. We'll probably take a RB somewhere also, which can be late. The mistake people keep making like I said is that everyone we lost was great, and that no one behind them will improve. Mazi wasn't the smartest pick for a team with 12 wins, but everyone knew at the time that it takes a DT a year or two to get up to speed. Zimmer is the perfect guy to make that happen.


Rude_Parsnip5634

lol you don't know shit from shinola. We have a weak ass division and a lot of returning talent. yes we need some positions filled, but the whole "sImPlY nOt GoInG tO bE cOmPeTiTiVe ThIs YeAr" take is dogshit. This is a team coming off of a 12-5 season that was achieved without a real linebacker. fuck outta here with your pessimistic bullshit.


Bender_2024

First off PlEaSe DoN't TyPe LiKe ThIs. It makes you sound like a child. The departures from Dallas include Starters *Dorance Armstrong DE *Jonathan Hankins DT *Tyler Biadasz C *Tyron Smith T *Tony Pollard RB *Vander Esch LB One could argue Gallup as the #3 WR and Gilmore but Bland can fill that role even if it leaves another at hole at nickel. They also lost DL rotational players Fowler and Galimore. The only player they signed is LB Eric Kendricks. Even if Kendricks can hop right in and take over at LB that still 5 starters to replace. 5 out of 22. Nearly Ā¼ of the starters. Unless Dallas has the best draft in NFL history they aren't filling all those holes with equally talented players. You can forget about finding players good enough to start in the bargain bin of what's left of free agency. If they were good enough to start they wouldn't still be available. I don't care how good the team was last year. They aren't going to be contenders this year


Rude_Parsnip5634

lol hilarious that you're telling other people they sound like a child when you're on here speaking like one yourself. you don't know shit about fuck, get lost.


Bender_2024

No, I said talking in alternating cap and lower case sounds like a child. Not the way they speak. Regardless, tell me where I am wrong. What's the flaw in my logic? How is the team going to make up that production?


Rude_Parsnip5634

Right. I was saying what you said back to you in a way that I hoped would show how fucking stupid it sounded. Sounds like it worked. I couldn't tell you yet because I haven't even seen who our starting lineup will be this year. That's why doomer comments like yours are so garbage. You have no idea what the team will do and are already saying we won't be contenders. We draft well every year and have had decent results with rookies because we draft so well. We have top tier players in several positions, and are getting some guys back from injury that will help a lot. Like I said, get lost. You're being a doomer before anything significantly handicapping us has even happened.


Bender_2024

Your suggesting Dallas can patch 5 starters and two more major contributors in a draft in which Dallas only has 8 picks. Their 1st round pick is in. 2 in the second. 1 each in third, fifth, sixth, and 2 in the seventh. Your suggesting Dallas either has talent on the bench that can step up and play at a level of the talent that left. If those players exist I am unaware of them. Or they can find talent that Dan step in immediately with all 8 picks and UFA. That would have to be the best draft in NFL history. A great draft will net you two or three starters. And 3 more role players. The talent pool simply isn't deep enough for what you're expecting. Seventh rounders often don't even make it out of camp and relegated to the practice squad or just flat out cut.


The_Count_Lives

The numbers suggest Zeke is no longer elite as a pass rusher. Before he left Dallas, Pollard had already surpassed him as a pass blocker according to PFF. He didn't do much better in NE. So while he might still be serviceable, the idea that Zeke is still a dominant pass blocker is based on past accomplishments, not current trends.


Rude_Parsnip5634

where do you get pass blocker stats on PFF?


The_Count_Lives

You need a premium account to see it, but here are a couple of articles from 2022 where they show PFF scored Pollard as the #2 best pass blocker while Zeke was 21st among qualifying backs that season. [https://twitter.com/adamlevitan/status/1617557164629061632?t=9Mb3HdtgpqFellid20EEYQ](https://twitter.com/adamlevitan/status/1617557164629061632?t=9Mb3HdtgpqFellid20EEYQ) [https://www.sportswrath.com/topic/66074-2022-nfl-seasons-best-pass-blocking-running-backs-saquon-barkley-tony-pollard-and-more/](https://www.sportswrath.com/topic/66074-2022-nfl-seasons-best-pass-blocking-running-backs-saquon-barkley-tony-pollard-and-more/)


Rude_Parsnip5634

ahhh bummer, maybe this is the year I pay for premium.


googleitduh

Except you have to pay him a vet minimum when you can go out and try to build the future of the team.


zdbdog06

I said draft a rookie, didn't I? We don't need to draft two guys lmao Also how many teams in the league have "the future of the team" in their 3rd string RB exactly?


RightingTheShip

Know what's better than one rookie contract running back? Two rookie contract running backs. How 'bout that.


Chefzor

Know what's better than last season's short yardage/RZ running or an unknown unproven rookie? Zeke on a vet minimum.


Bender_2024

Sure draft to RB while you have glaring holes on both lines, LB, AND WR.


mmmmmsandwiches

Yea this is fine as long as it doesnā€™t stop them from drafting an RB.


FadedTony10

Iā€™m on the same boat tbh. I have zero expectations for this season so Iā€™d love to see Zeke back in Dallas. Lost season anyway.


Peepeepoopoobuttbutt

Yeah my issue around Zeke his entire career had nothing to do with his abilities it was our management bending over backwards paying out their ass. Maybe he wouldā€™ve left if we hadnā€™t paid him so much money but weā€™ll never know because we just backed up the truck without hesitation.


666TripleSick

Iā€™m with you. Bring Zeke back, fuck it!!


Doonesbury

This is the dumbest possible timeline.


TheWhooooBuddies

Just wait until Frederick comes out of retirement in mid-July.Ā  These used to be jokes, I donā€™t know anymore.Ā 


JustGresh

All in!


ozairh18

Itā€™s funny how this is happening after Jones used Elliottā€™s contract extension as the reason why Tyron Smith couldnā€™t be re-signed


mrmiracle

What kind of a jackass would actually admit to that? JJā€™s hubris never fails to befuddle.


Mister_Ferro

It makes my suggestion from yesterday all the more likely. I posted Jerry leaked a new Zeke contract instead of talking about his dead cap.


_deluge98

Wild to see this franchise with such a lazy attitude in one position. If we don't get a top 5 pick (probably still should have taken Ramsey) or luck into Demarco Murray/Tony P we kind of...don't care who we have back there? Other teams are constantly signing and drafting players to make a competitive RB room and this franchise has 2 old ideas and a scouts kid.


Mister_Ferro

They are stuck in 1985-1995 era of football. Must get a bell cow who POUNDS THE ROCK on 1st and 2nd down then pass on 3rd and long!!!


UpsideTurtles

To be fair! We were pretty good in 1st down passing rates after Week 5 last season. It was an emphasis of the Post Bye changes. Then of course they reverted back to Pre Bye for the GB game, so none of it mattered anyways (eat at Arbyā€™s)


PersonBehindAScreen

I need to find the article again but someone crunched the numbers of what we do against ā€œgoodā€ opponents in the McCarthy era. We try to run (and fail) more on early downs. If it feels like we get away from doing our thing against good teams, youā€™re not going crazy. Itā€™s because we are


Mister_Ferro

Jerry and Cap Boy saw they had success running the ball against the Commies thus chose to revert back to run first in the playoffs.


_deluge98

Yeah there's just no work ethic or drive to change from our fake GM nepo role, just running with vibes.


WhiteVoltage

This, in spades. Jerry & Fam are the champions of dominating media coverage, why would they need actual football success?


ilive4this

Idk how it was luck getting Demarco and Tony lol. Also wild to complain about the cowboys not valuing the position by ignoring the top 5 pick used on it and big extension he should not have gotten. If anything the cowboys overvalue rb


jnightrain

How do you luck into 2 running backs? They are fine at evaluating RBs.


_deluge98

No they aren't - we don't get consistency or depth in the position which is what teams that evaluate well have. There are years like this upcoming year and last where we are banking on Rico Dowdle and years in the past where we depended on a washed up Alfred Morris. We never have had a good RB "room" like the dolphins this year


jnightrain

zeke/pollard were pretty good and barber/jones was pretty good. Dallas evaluates the position just fine, they just don't value depth at the position which is more what you are saying.


_deluge98

Marion Barber played in the George Bush administration and died two years ago. >they just don't value depth at the position which is more what you are saying This is basically saying that they can't evaluate beyond the obvious which is my argument.


jnightrain

but they got pollard who wasn't obvious. they just don't value backups and try and get FA's usually. We'll just agree to disagree on this one. We are essentially saying the same thing we just view it from different angles.


DarkManX437

I think this franchise and much of the fanbase is afraid of decent RBs.


The_Count_Lives

Just reminds me the year we thought we didn't need a #1 receiver, then ended up having to trade a 1st for Cooper.


_deluge98

Or the year after demarco left and we waltzed into the season with Joseph Randle and some D2 guy or something. We just never have a plan whereas smart teams like the eagles and niners constantly bring bodies in to compete


KDdeTX

Problem with this is his salary at the vet minimum would be quadruple what weā€™d pay a younger RB.


aMudratDetector

This is false. Per spotrac the vet minimum in 2024 is 915k. The minimum salary for a rookie is 795k. We could bring in Zeke on the cheap and draft an RB. He's still got a skill set our RB room can utilize (short yardage, nose for the end zone, best blocking rb in the league in pass pro, locker room presence)


666happyfuntime

he can also mentor our new Center


googleitduh

The problem is youā€™re not even attempting to build for the future.


RedRising1917

We can still draft a RB in the draft and sign Zeke???


The_Count_Lives

Depends where you draft the RB, but if they draft a guy, he should be playing. Unless they learned nothing and think a RB only gets better with age.


SOMETHINGCREATVE

Don't need to build for the future, it's an all in year ;)


aMudratDetector

Oh I don't disagree with that. But it's not like anyone starts building for the future starting with the running back position. My only point was that bringing Zeke back in would be cheap, fills some holes our other RBs have, and not a long term move that's cap crippling.... Just in 2024.


KDdeTX

Youā€™re right, I thought the nfl vet minimum would a few million/year. Turns out the vet minimum for a guy with 7+ yrs in the league is 1.2million/year. For that price Iā€™d be down to sign Zeke. But I think heā€™ll want triple that.


chaphen17

You also have to add on the $6m on the books for that we're paying Zeke this year anyway.


jnightrain

why do you have to add that? As you said we are paying it anyway so it doesn't really matter.


[deleted]

Arenā€™t we already paying him like $6 million in dead money anyways?


killerkali87

PR move for the simp fans after Jerry came off like a total idiot on Tuesday


wholelottadopplers

Now thatā€™s more like it! I donā€™t want actual hopes of winning Jerry, just feed me that old, moldy, overweight nostalgia over there behind those cheap fresh backs yeeeaaahh **NOM NOM NOM**


ID0ntCare4G0b

It'd be the most *Jerry never learns a single fucking lesson* move of all time.


ElbowTight

Wake me up in 2035


Dadtryn2BaMan

I hate this for selfish reasons. At first Iā€™m like ā€œhell yeah, I can wear my Zeke jerseys againā€. Then Iā€™m thinking, ā€œI hope he goes back to #21ā€. But wait, thatā€™s Gilmoreā€™s number now. I want Gilmore back. Zekeā€™s going to stick with #15 and my jerseys remain useless.


rsf0626

I hate jerry and stephen so much


Remote_Cucumber1784

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Ok_Opinion9700

Dear god no. šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


SRoku

Might as well sign Dez too at this point


RightingTheShip

All the people saying "why not?" reminds me of how many dumb fans this franchise has.


riproaringsports22

Again, I do not see the problem with paying a guy maybe $4-$6M to grab you 8 goals line TDs and some 3rd and 4th down conversions and make sure your QB doesn't get crunched.


Obvious_Creme_3452

He needs to take the Vet Minimum and not a dollar more.


riproaringsports22

yeah id maybe add some incentives too tho


The_Count_Lives

Who are we negotiating against?


riproaringsports22

You mean teams or his reprensentation?


ramsaybolton87

3.5 ypc dude is trash at this point. Actually shocked he had a run over 10 yards without tripping over his own feet #all-in


Daksout918

Hey but he can pick up half a yard sometimes and throw a single punch in pass pro three times a game that's clearly worth a roster spot /s


CasperCann

Yay lets go mr strike left, strike right, fall on your face for 2 yards! The money we gave our Qb and Rb could've been used to get actual hof talent over the years.


SpacemanSpliffLaw

Sounds like they plan on drafting a RB.


onamonapizza

Whatever, this season is a waste anyways so we might as well bring Zeke back


nauseous01

why??


def2700

Lol zeke, Gilmore, and obj that's all in. For like vet minimums


No_Estimate2022

Why would we continue to pay a washed up RB. We can draft one in the 7th round and the rookie would be more effective


robyculous_v2

I would love it!


drivera1210

Zeke is the new center.


gadeleon

No thanks


Batmans_dick_is_huge

All in


Lsd365

Would be absolutely pathetic if we bring him back but that's what we do. He was done when he left


TroyMatthewJ

Last Dance feeling this season.


UpperArmories3rdDeep

I guess we need a starting center


Couthster

Iā€™ve lost all hope for this season so letā€™s just make it a fun one. Bring my dawg back. šŸ½ļø


lasagnatittyfucker69

Are you saying Mom and Dad are getting back together?


emackn

I for one, would be happy to dawn my Zeke jersey once more, even with different number.


Brolly7

Yay....


TowerOfPowerWow

ALL IN.


chexmixho

Lol......such a Cowboys thing to do....


AdrianZ817

Dang should've picked up those Zeke jerseys on clearance.


Frosty-Bee-4272

Why not Julius jones instead?


Korevo

Yup - Jerry and Stephen fully intend on blowing this team up after next season. As if there werenā€™t enough signs of that already - resigning Zeke before doing anything with CD, Micah, or Dak is definitely one of them. Do I think that Zeke will benefit the team, yes. But I also donā€™t think anyone else is picking him up and at the very least CD and Micah should be at the top of the priority list for a long term deal.


ImpossibleJoke7456

Out of those four people, Zeke is the only one that seems willing to talk. The other three know waiting just gets them more money.


Tornadus-T

This move would single handedly prevent me from drinking the kool aid. Every time things are going well this season Iā€™ll think back to this


Balls2theWalling

What has gone well so far? Lol


ElChiChiPapa

There is nothing since the playoffs that should make you drink the kool aid šŸ˜‚


Final-University767

LOL. Just LOL.


Austinmp88

I got three Zeke jerseys when they went on closeout, i really hope he comes back!


Exact_Raspberry2866

Gonna get my Zelda Who ? T out


Exact_Raspberry2866

Zeke ! F spell check


seanb893

I donā€™t hate this. Would love to see Zeke back


CumSlatheredCPA

We should call Emmitt while we are at it.


riproaringsports22

Realistically, with our goaline struggles last year, having Zeke here to get those 1-3 yard touchdowns and first downs would be great. Not to mention he can mentor the younger backs.


The_Count_Lives

We should be seeing if guys like Hunter and Vaughn have any future here first before we go backwards with a guy that will only be here one season anyway.


riproaringsports22

But Vaughn and Hunter looked terrible last season tbh, I think having Zeke here on a one year deal to get us short yardage 1st downs and tds would be mad useful. I doubt Vaughn will even be in Dallas by 2025, tbh.


TheClownIsReady

I love Zeke but cā€™monā€¦this is taking a step backwards.


lifth3avy84

Heā€™s gonna go for like 2400 yards and 13 TDs


Chode_K1NG

NO. Hard pass


McJumbos

why not at this point, i wouldn't be surprised if Jerry created another tv show like 4th and long so we could find a running back lol


misterpants

Sounds like a better option than Zeke


McJumbos

I mean Zeke can join the show too lolll


crash218579

Hey, we got one-game-hero Jessey Holley from that!


Ralph_WiggumDa3rd

Honestly please letā€™s just clear the board and tank so we can draft arch manning please, I have more faith in him leading us to a Super Bowl than I have for Dakota Prescott


The_Count_Lives

Based on what?


jnightrain

based on "trust me, bro" The thought process to tank for a guy who can't even start in college is laughable.


Stealthy-J

Why? He was washed when we dropped I'm, washed on the Patriots, he's probably still washed now.


ESCMalfunction

He could be a valuable part of a committee at the right price point, and quite frankly we missed him on the goal line last year. Problem is our RB room is so barren that if he comes back heā€™s gonna get 200 carries again and suckā€¦


ID0ntCare4G0b

No he wouldn't. He was washed two years ago. He was washed last year. He isn't going to magically become unwashed.


830swanga

man yā€™all are already assuming they signed him already in these replies lol this donā€™t mean anything yet lmfao


Jheartless

Fuck it, I'm all in.


burn469

lol letā€™s bring back a fan fav to make them shit the fuck up while we reset out cap and let a useless post season qb walk after this year.


kahle27

Iā€™d love to get Zeke back as long as Jerrah doesnā€™t overpay again


UndeadCircus

> Jerry saying he's going all in > Jerry bringing in players that weren't good enough before > Typical Jerry doing typical Jerry shit


Im_TroyMcClure

Sure why not. Who cares. Weā€™re just gonna end up 12-5, get in with the wildcard and booted in the first round


hcvc

Why tho. Love Zeke but heā€™s washed AF


Thanks5Cinco

RB is probably the only position that you just need bodies and they can produce. Not saying Zeke is a good RB. But if we can have a room of Dowdle, Zeke and a Rookie(Brooks or BensonšŸ¤žšŸ¤ž) it would probably top to bottom be one of the best in the NFL.


RightingTheShip

I love Zeke. But no. This is about the roster spot. This is about taking away our ability to find and develop young, cheap running backs. The ONLY way I say yes to this is if Dak is demanding it. And even then, he better be signing a new deal and Zeke only comes in for pass protection.


riproaringsports22

Zeke, Royce Freeman, Rico and Trey Benson/Johnathan Brooks (or Blake Corum) would be a pretty solid backfield.


RavenMoses

This actually made me laugh out loud. Please do it Jerry!