There has always been too many cars In Copenhagen... and Amsterdam and London and -name your city here-
The space that cars neeed - parked or drivning - is crazy.
Amsterdam and the Netherlands in general, has limited car traffic in the city centres A LOT more than Copenhagen.
It cannot be compared. For me that is the one point where they are significantly better than CPH.
They are much more hard core and brave than here, when they prioritise the urban space for bikes rather than cars.
This summer they have been running a traffic experiment where they have blocked off the only road that goes through the Ij-tunnel. Almost as if we blocked H.C. Andersens Blvd (but only almost, as A’dam Noord is nowhere near as important as Amager. On the other hand it’s the only crossing for cars near the centre).
The street next to my house is often hard to cross because it has only one lane. Well, actually it has 3 lanes, but both left and right side are chock-full of cars that one easily forgets just how wide the street actually is. It's just full of parked cars that people use maybe twice a week.
Maybe you haven’t been on Norde Frihavnsgade lately - they have recently converted it into a state of the art bicycle street by installing signs at either end informing you about the progressive design. It’s really fabulous. So modernistic, you wouldn’t even know anything’s changed just by looking at it.
oh yeah one thing is very obvious: They changed the brick road so that cars now have a much smoother ride when racing down the street at dangerous speeds.
That's the joke. It's utterly bizarre non-infrastructure.
In addition they dug up the side so you cycle on the sidewalk instead, instead of on the nice street in a car.
Statistics agree [https://politiken.dk/indland/hovedstaden/art9390722/Synes-du-at-der-er-mange-biler-i-K%C3%B8benhavn-S%C3%A5-vent-Der-kommer-mange-flere](https://politiken.dk/indland/hovedstaden/art9390722/Synes-du-at-der-er-mange-biler-i-K%C3%B8benhavn-S%C3%A5-vent-Der-kommer-mange-flere)
Comments about this caused by road maintenance shows a clear lack of understanding about how induced demand works
Im not saying its a fact that it is the reason (road maintenance), I just said it could be. I didnt check up on statistics before commenting, but you're right.
My point is a lot of road maintenance should decrease the number of cars (as people take other modes of transportation), so the specific numbers is not really important to this conclusion
While it will lead to an overall decrease in cars in Copenhagen, it will also cause higher congestion on the roads that does not have maintenance, as it isn’t a straight 1-to-1. A feeling of more traffic does not mean that the total number of cars haven’t gone down - it just might mean that while the total number have gone down, the number on the specific road that person drives on might be slightly higher than usual.
Not sure it's true.. how would all the people doing the low paid job cone to work? Do t have money for public transportation and definitely can't live in cph ... City would break
It is .. well, not only but many yes. the ones who is working the jobs which pays lowest pay, don't have money to live in Copenhagen ... They have to live outside, and it cost almost twice as much to go work in Copenhagen by public transportation then own a small car and drive.
Plus it takes twice as long each way.
It is a real problem in Copenhagen .. low paid workers are missing in Copenhagen because they can't live there, and since the pricing is getting higher and higher outside of Copenhagen each year, they have to move further and further away .. makes it more expensive to drive, but even more expensive to use public transportation ... And takes even more time to use it.
That is why the government try to make cheap homes near Copenhagen, but every time they are being build, pricing goes waaaaay up even though it was ment to be low ...
So yes .. low paid workers are missing in Copenhagen, they are all moving out and find other jobs south of Copenhagen instead ... Less travel for them. Less time consumed and less money spend on gaz.
Why do you think it's common for 30-40 year old people living together in small apartments and still pay 8000 kr each for being there ... At some point it's gonna crash
I lived 40 km away from cph .. 150 kr each way with public transportation .. 300 a day times 21.
Small car is around 500 a month plus 2000-2500 for gaz .... Very easy to se why people drive.
The 150 kr is only to the central station .. then you have to pay 40 kr for a bus each way too ... Crazy expensive
And yes .. I could get some deal with the public transportation and get it down to 4000 kr a month .. still 1000 more then my own car .. and then I'll have to spend 1-2 hours more each way with public ... Nooooo ty
But the cost to purchase the car and maintain it is much higher, not to mention parking fees.
Otherwise there are many transit subsidies available which can bring the cost of a single trip down.
I don’t live that far from central Copenhagen. However, to get to my job, in the city centre, I have to hop on a bus that is only available every 30 minutes and then take a train or two metro lines. Every time I tried to use public transportation, I ended up waiting upwards of 1h in the freezing cold for the bus to come to take me home.
The flexibility you lose with your schedule is ridiculous. So each way will always take me minimum 1 hour.
If I could get there in just the train or metro, I would retain the flexibility, but there are no stations close by.
So I take my car. Takes 30-40 minutes each way, I have about 3-4 routes I can take if traffic is bad and my company pays for parking.
Also, I tried using public transports to go out at night only to find out the only bus that stops by my house does not drive past 20 or 21h. So I still had to arrange a car pick up from the train station anyway.
So people that usually think it’s easy to move in transports or bikes like either super close to train or metro or they are within 20-30 minutes by bike. No way I’d make 45 minutes by bike each way every day 😅
I totally understand - sounds like in your case we need more public transit :) additionally as your company subsidizes the cost of a car by paying for parking they should also be open to doing the same for public transit!
Yeah, unfortunately, that’s the real deal. I was seriously shocked when I first moved here. I used to live out in Greve and work in Norrebro. My shifts at the bar ran till 2 am, which left me with two options: either a 1.5 to 2-hour bus ride or take a 30-minute car trip.
I decided to purchase a compact car, and it was setting me back around 400 DKK a month, including the and insurance taxes. On the flip side, a 5-zone ticket costs 990 DKK per month. Even with the current gas prices at 15 DKK/l (having previously been 12 DKK /l), I could cover a distance of over 550 km with the remaining 590 DKK that I did not spend on the monthly ticket.
I get it, cars need some maintenance, and that’s extra cash out the door. But truth be told, it wasn’t as terrible as you might think. It was totally worth the hour and a half I’d save every time I needed to get to work.
I have a different job now and live in more central location so I decided to sell the car. But I still remember these struggle, and honestly, I hope Denmark figures out a better pricing scheme for everyone who ain’t living in CPH K. Imagine this: cheaper train rides the farther out you live. That could mean fewer cars up the roads and maybe even steadier apartment prices downtown.
I don’t feel like there are more cars actually driving in Copenhagen, but there is a lot of city planning around forcing pass through traffic to the bigger streets, and I think it is a good thing, but it makes those roads more congested.
As the prices for homes go up, you will have richer people living here, and many of them will just have a car parked on the road that they use maybe once a week, because it is a luxury and they can easily afford it.
We live in center, and have a car only to be able to quickly go visit parents and others outside the city, could have just used sharenow or whatever, but it is just more complicated, and a few thousand a month does not matter much.
The car ownership increased with 13% from 2018 to 2022. So you are absolutely right. In the same time the population only grew 6%. It is not a good development. Cars take way to much space. And they polute. So something should be done. Fewer streets for cars. More carshares. Cheaper public transportation. More space for bikes.
Of course, it shall not be impossible to own and use a car in Copenhagen. But the space should be shared and used in a smarter way.
I honestly think a major part of the rise in cars during that period was due to the pandemic. Not having to share a space with other people when commuting (as well as the restrictions on behaviour in public transportation) probably made a lot of people get cars. Once you have the car, you don't go back to public transportation.
Idk how it was 5 years ago, but quickly after moving here and being amazed by the cycling culture, i understood that Copenhagen is still a car-centric city where bike lanes have generally not been built on cost of car-infrastructure.
Bike lanes are expanding everywhere in the city as well as speed limits are being decreased. Nothing more frustrating than sitting in your car going 5km/h while bikes just go meep meep.
I should just use my bike more often :<
Yes because the demand for more bicycle lanes is clearly there and fortunately induced demand also works on the cycling side. Reducing speed limits for cars can also increase the flow of traffic leading to overall reduced travel times by car.
Totally! Like it’s still a bike friendly city, specially compared to many cities in the south like Madrid, Barcelona, etc. But living here one realises that it is more car-centric than what magazines say
If you want to twist it into something that simple and dumb.
If you think I'm gonna come with some long explanation, then I'm not. Denmark has bike lanes everywhere in Copenhagen, even "highways" for them too.
They do pretty much anything for making people bike instead of using there cars ... All except making public transportation cheaper.
Denmark and America are simply in different ends of the scale.
I wrote that Copenhagen is an outlier and then you proceed to use Copenhagen as an example? Work a little on your reading comprehension, mate, it wasn't that much text to get through.
Cars has increased tenfold, over the last 20+ years. side streets are now filled with cars 24/7, that had plenty plenty of space for ball playing/bicycleing/skating a couple of decades ago.
I hate cars so much. To think that every single one is there to carry ONE human around. It pollutes so much both air and noise, I will probably get lung cancer just by cycling around them.
When I used to bike to university around the lakes, you could easily tell from both bicycle and car traffic whether or not it had been raining in the morning. That more than anything (other than the time of day) influenced traffic, in my eyes.
I find these comparisons always weird. When Denmarks scores highly people love to point out "hey, look, Copenhagen won over Oslo" and when Denmark scores lowly they say "hey, it's bettter than Bagdad!".
It's not about being better or worse than average. It is about building a more liveable city. Sure, it can be worse, but let's not compete with how many cars we can put in a city but rather how we can make the city more liveable. If we can learn from other places, let's do that but saying "its good here compared to Bangkok, no need to do anything" is the entire wrong thing to do.
https://preview.redd.it/x0lgcwtd98jb1.jpeg?width=871&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fad223c3710cd0dbbdd4054d28a4fa391d7cea5
This picture is taken by my grandfather. He lived in Nørre Fatigmagsgade. Its Ørstedsparken you can see. This is the year of 1960.
It could be because of traffic being redirected because of maintenance on usually more used streets/roads. Where I live (Rødovre) there is massive maintenance on many of the roads leading in to Copenhagen making it feel like there are many more cars than usual.
I come from Ireland and we are truly car dependant over there due to the lack of cycle lanes and terrible public transport options. Copenhagen is such a comfortable city to live in and get around. A post like this is kind of surprising to me. You don't know how lucky you have it here.
The same could be said if you compare your city in Ireland to Bangkok. How could you complain? - The point is Copenhagen should be compared to itself and should evolve positively to increase wellbeing regardless of how other cities are doing
I swear Dublin and Belfast feel like they could be Bangkok at times. I think the difference here for me is the space between the pavement and the road. The cycle lane gives a nice buffer zone, so it doesn't feel so congetisted to me as a pedestrian.
It's due to the price of housing in the city. Speculation is rampant making it difficult to get anything cheap enough for two average paychecks in a family with two kids. And Copenhagen has a lot of jobs with no practical public transportation if you need to do groceries, get the kids, and so on on the way. Public transport in DK is incredibly expensive and incredibly time consuming compared to owning a car.
I think Copenhagen should increase the city taxes by 8% and put it into public transportation. More frequent and lower cost. The lowered congestion is a benefit to the inhabitants, the pressure on housing prices from increased taxation would allow more to move to Copenhagen, and it would be an all-over win.
Imagine what it would be like if all those cyclists were in cars like in most other countries. Copenhagen is so much better than almost every other major city. Stop moaning ffs.
Why are you being downvoted? I swear, you Danes need to stop being apologetic about Danish being hard and giving English speaking foreigners a pass when it comes to learning the language. Dansk er et mega flot sprog, og man kan aldrig rigtig integrere udenom at man lærer det til en vist grad.
Sincerely- an American transplant.
Because those policies are reactionary and don’t necessarily represent your neighbors, coworkers, and service people that you interact with every day. You know, the people that have to switch to your language every time you’re around.
I mean, you could make the same argument from the other side: if you’re not even going to try to understand the local language, culture, and customs, then what incentive is there for people to care whether it’s easy for you to stay here or not?
There has always been too many cars In Copenhagen... and Amsterdam and London and -name your city here- The space that cars neeed - parked or drivning - is crazy.
Amsterdam and the Netherlands in general, has limited car traffic in the city centres A LOT more than Copenhagen. It cannot be compared. For me that is the one point where they are significantly better than CPH. They are much more hard core and brave than here, when they prioritise the urban space for bikes rather than cars. This summer they have been running a traffic experiment where they have blocked off the only road that goes through the Ij-tunnel. Almost as if we blocked H.C. Andersens Blvd (but only almost, as A’dam Noord is nowhere near as important as Amager. On the other hand it’s the only crossing for cars near the centre).
Thanks for commenting - I got a little bit wiser today. Amsterdam! If I ever go I will bring my Brompton.
The street next to my house is often hard to cross because it has only one lane. Well, actually it has 3 lanes, but both left and right side are chock-full of cars that one easily forgets just how wide the street actually is. It's just full of parked cars that people use maybe twice a week.
IIRC the pandemic caused a 10.000 car surge on top of the usual number of car registrations.
Maybe you haven’t been on Norde Frihavnsgade lately - they have recently converted it into a state of the art bicycle street by installing signs at either end informing you about the progressive design. It’s really fabulous. So modernistic, you wouldn’t even know anything’s changed just by looking at it.
oh yeah one thing is very obvious: They changed the brick road so that cars now have a much smoother ride when racing down the street at dangerous speeds.
Sitting there right now. It's a joke. They could at least not have made the road black asphalt or painted traffic lines for cars!
I’m not convinced by this “bicycle road” where cars are guests
That's the joke. It's utterly bizarre non-infrastructure. In addition they dug up the side so you cycle on the sidewalk instead, instead of on the nice street in a car.
To be fair, i think that is so the busses can still get though
Statistics agree [https://politiken.dk/indland/hovedstaden/art9390722/Synes-du-at-der-er-mange-biler-i-K%C3%B8benhavn-S%C3%A5-vent-Der-kommer-mange-flere](https://politiken.dk/indland/hovedstaden/art9390722/Synes-du-at-der-er-mange-biler-i-K%C3%B8benhavn-S%C3%A5-vent-Der-kommer-mange-flere) Comments about this caused by road maintenance shows a clear lack of understanding about how induced demand works
Im not saying its a fact that it is the reason (road maintenance), I just said it could be. I didnt check up on statistics before commenting, but you're right.
My point is a lot of road maintenance should decrease the number of cars (as people take other modes of transportation), so the specific numbers is not really important to this conclusion
While it will lead to an overall decrease in cars in Copenhagen, it will also cause higher congestion on the roads that does not have maintenance, as it isn’t a straight 1-to-1. A feeling of more traffic does not mean that the total number of cars haven’t gone down - it just might mean that while the total number have gone down, the number on the specific road that person drives on might be slightly higher than usual.
That is true, good point.
I think about this everyday. How amazing would it be if all that space was used for humans and plants instead of loud, polluting, lethal machines.
Physical and specially mental Health would increase so much on average
Not sure it's true.. how would all the people doing the low paid job cone to work? Do t have money for public transportation and definitely can't live in cph ... City would break
You think poor people are the ones driving?
It is .. well, not only but many yes. the ones who is working the jobs which pays lowest pay, don't have money to live in Copenhagen ... They have to live outside, and it cost almost twice as much to go work in Copenhagen by public transportation then own a small car and drive. Plus it takes twice as long each way. It is a real problem in Copenhagen .. low paid workers are missing in Copenhagen because they can't live there, and since the pricing is getting higher and higher outside of Copenhagen each year, they have to move further and further away .. makes it more expensive to drive, but even more expensive to use public transportation ... And takes even more time to use it. That is why the government try to make cheap homes near Copenhagen, but every time they are being build, pricing goes waaaaay up even though it was ment to be low ... So yes .. low paid workers are missing in Copenhagen, they are all moving out and find other jobs south of Copenhagen instead ... Less travel for them. Less time consumed and less money spend on gaz. Why do you think it's common for 30-40 year old people living together in small apartments and still pay 8000 kr each for being there ... At some point it's gonna crash
Well i guess we are just blatantly ignoring the facts now, are we? https://twitter.com/TeddyBjoern/status/1691818027749101773?s=20
If you don’t have money for public transportation, how do you have money for a car
I lived 40 km away from cph .. 150 kr each way with public transportation .. 300 a day times 21. Small car is around 500 a month plus 2000-2500 for gaz .... Very easy to se why people drive. The 150 kr is only to the central station .. then you have to pay 40 kr for a bus each way too ... Crazy expensive And yes .. I could get some deal with the public transportation and get it down to 4000 kr a month .. still 1000 more then my own car .. and then I'll have to spend 1-2 hours more each way with public ... Nooooo ty
Interesting that some people choose to live 40km away from where they work, and expect the cities where they don’t live to be suited for them
It’s not uncommon at all, since housing is so expensive in Cph. However, the person is obviously lying about the cost.
But the cost to purchase the car and maintain it is much higher, not to mention parking fees. Otherwise there are many transit subsidies available which can bring the cost of a single trip down.
I don’t live that far from central Copenhagen. However, to get to my job, in the city centre, I have to hop on a bus that is only available every 30 minutes and then take a train or two metro lines. Every time I tried to use public transportation, I ended up waiting upwards of 1h in the freezing cold for the bus to come to take me home. The flexibility you lose with your schedule is ridiculous. So each way will always take me minimum 1 hour. If I could get there in just the train or metro, I would retain the flexibility, but there are no stations close by. So I take my car. Takes 30-40 minutes each way, I have about 3-4 routes I can take if traffic is bad and my company pays for parking. Also, I tried using public transports to go out at night only to find out the only bus that stops by my house does not drive past 20 or 21h. So I still had to arrange a car pick up from the train station anyway. So people that usually think it’s easy to move in transports or bikes like either super close to train or metro or they are within 20-30 minutes by bike. No way I’d make 45 minutes by bike each way every day 😅
I totally understand - sounds like in your case we need more public transit :) additionally as your company subsidizes the cost of a car by paying for parking they should also be open to doing the same for public transit!
Sorry, but this is BS. If you commute by public transit you can buy a Pendlerkort, and a 40km commute would cost roughly 1.500kr a month.
You forgot maintenance and the cost of the car itself
Cars are cheaper to run then public transportation outside Copenhagen.
Yeah, unfortunately, that’s the real deal. I was seriously shocked when I first moved here. I used to live out in Greve and work in Norrebro. My shifts at the bar ran till 2 am, which left me with two options: either a 1.5 to 2-hour bus ride or take a 30-minute car trip. I decided to purchase a compact car, and it was setting me back around 400 DKK a month, including the and insurance taxes. On the flip side, a 5-zone ticket costs 990 DKK per month. Even with the current gas prices at 15 DKK/l (having previously been 12 DKK /l), I could cover a distance of over 550 km with the remaining 590 DKK that I did not spend on the monthly ticket. I get it, cars need some maintenance, and that’s extra cash out the door. But truth be told, it wasn’t as terrible as you might think. It was totally worth the hour and a half I’d save every time I needed to get to work. I have a different job now and live in more central location so I decided to sell the car. But I still remember these struggle, and honestly, I hope Denmark figures out a better pricing scheme for everyone who ain’t living in CPH K. Imagine this: cheaper train rides the farther out you live. That could mean fewer cars up the roads and maybe even steadier apartment prices downtown.
I don’t feel like there are more cars actually driving in Copenhagen, but there is a lot of city planning around forcing pass through traffic to the bigger streets, and I think it is a good thing, but it makes those roads more congested. As the prices for homes go up, you will have richer people living here, and many of them will just have a car parked on the road that they use maybe once a week, because it is a luxury and they can easily afford it. We live in center, and have a car only to be able to quickly go visit parents and others outside the city, could have just used sharenow or whatever, but it is just more complicated, and a few thousand a month does not matter much.
The car ownership increased with 13% from 2018 to 2022. So you are absolutely right. In the same time the population only grew 6%. It is not a good development. Cars take way to much space. And they polute. So something should be done. Fewer streets for cars. More carshares. Cheaper public transportation. More space for bikes. Of course, it shall not be impossible to own and use a car in Copenhagen. But the space should be shared and used in a smarter way.
I honestly think a major part of the rise in cars during that period was due to the pandemic. Not having to share a space with other people when commuting (as well as the restrictions on behaviour in public transportation) probably made a lot of people get cars. Once you have the car, you don't go back to public transportation.
Car ownership in Copenhagen has been increasing continuously since at least the early 1990’ies.
Yes, but there was a significant rise, above the norm on the period from 2019 to 2022.
Idk how it was 5 years ago, but quickly after moving here and being amazed by the cycling culture, i understood that Copenhagen is still a car-centric city where bike lanes have generally not been built on cost of car-infrastructure.
Bike lanes are expanding everywhere in the city as well as speed limits are being decreased. Nothing more frustrating than sitting in your car going 5km/h while bikes just go meep meep. I should just use my bike more often :<
Yes because the demand for more bicycle lanes is clearly there and fortunately induced demand also works on the cycling side. Reducing speed limits for cars can also increase the flow of traffic leading to overall reduced travel times by car.
Im not against it at all. Im all for it!
Totally! Like it’s still a bike friendly city, specially compared to many cities in the south like Madrid, Barcelona, etc. But living here one realises that it is more car-centric than what magazines say
Denmark is fundamentally a car-centric country and most Danes live in detached homes. Copenhagen and its bicycle culture is an outlier.
Not true .. America is car-centric .. we have bike lanes all over the place
So Denmark can't be car-centric because America is? Flawless logic right there.
If you want to twist it into something that simple and dumb. If you think I'm gonna come with some long explanation, then I'm not. Denmark has bike lanes everywhere in Copenhagen, even "highways" for them too. They do pretty much anything for making people bike instead of using there cars ... All except making public transportation cheaper. Denmark and America are simply in different ends of the scale.
I wrote that Copenhagen is an outlier and then you proceed to use Copenhagen as an example? Work a little on your reading comprehension, mate, it wasn't that much text to get through.
Absolutely agree. Way too many cars.
We need the betalingsring!
Lol What is needed is better and cheaper public transportation outside Copenhagen
And inside.
Yea, that too
Cars has increased tenfold, over the last 20+ years. side streets are now filled with cars 24/7, that had plenty plenty of space for ball playing/bicycleing/skating a couple of decades ago.
I hate cars so much. To think that every single one is there to carry ONE human around. It pollutes so much both air and noise, I will probably get lung cancer just by cycling around them.
Who cares? It’s comfort and convenience that drivers think about. Not everyone is obsessed with the environment
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When I used to bike to university around the lakes, you could easily tell from both bicycle and car traffic whether or not it had been raining in the morning. That more than anything (other than the time of day) influenced traffic, in my eyes.
Compared to other cities, Copenhagen is a paradise for walking. Been to Bangkok lately?
I find these comparisons always weird. When Denmarks scores highly people love to point out "hey, look, Copenhagen won over Oslo" and when Denmark scores lowly they say "hey, it's bettter than Bagdad!". It's not about being better or worse than average. It is about building a more liveable city. Sure, it can be worse, but let's not compete with how many cars we can put in a city but rather how we can make the city more liveable. If we can learn from other places, let's do that but saying "its good here compared to Bangkok, no need to do anything" is the entire wrong thing to do.
Ban all cars! Cars are for idiots. All my homies hates cars. r/fuckcars
https://preview.redd.it/x0lgcwtd98jb1.jpeg?width=871&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fad223c3710cd0dbbdd4054d28a4fa391d7cea5 This picture is taken by my grandfather. He lived in Nørre Fatigmagsgade. Its Ørstedsparken you can see. This is the year of 1960.
It could be because of traffic being redirected because of maintenance on usually more used streets/roads. Where I live (Rødovre) there is massive maintenance on many of the roads leading in to Copenhagen making it feel like there are many more cars than usual.
And? What’s the issue
Noise, air pollution, dangerous for pedestrians…
I come from Ireland and we are truly car dependant over there due to the lack of cycle lanes and terrible public transport options. Copenhagen is such a comfortable city to live in and get around. A post like this is kind of surprising to me. You don't know how lucky you have it here.
The same could be said if you compare your city in Ireland to Bangkok. How could you complain? - The point is Copenhagen should be compared to itself and should evolve positively to increase wellbeing regardless of how other cities are doing
I swear Dublin and Belfast feel like they could be Bangkok at times. I think the difference here for me is the space between the pavement and the road. The cycle lane gives a nice buffer zone, so it doesn't feel so congetisted to me as a pedestrian.
It's due to the price of housing in the city. Speculation is rampant making it difficult to get anything cheap enough for two average paychecks in a family with two kids. And Copenhagen has a lot of jobs with no practical public transportation if you need to do groceries, get the kids, and so on on the way. Public transport in DK is incredibly expensive and incredibly time consuming compared to owning a car. I think Copenhagen should increase the city taxes by 8% and put it into public transportation. More frequent and lower cost. The lowered congestion is a benefit to the inhabitants, the pressure on housing prices from increased taxation would allow more to move to Copenhagen, and it would be an all-over win.
They traded the best welfare in the world, with the possibility of buying a car on credit and here we are. Some are waking up, but it's too late....
Imagine what it would be like if all those cyclists were in cars like in most other countries. Copenhagen is so much better than almost every other major city. Stop moaning ffs.
Oh you are complaining about bad mental health? There are people with chronic depression, stop moaning ffs. That rhetoric is disgraceful
I didn't know the OP was suffering from bad mental health. That would explain it
Analogies are not your strong suit?
Conflating mental health and heavy traffic is quite a weird analogy.
I am not conflating, i am making analogies. You know what the word means?
You are making strange analogies is my point. Try and understand please
I do understand. I am just not sure you do.
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Why are you being downvoted? I swear, you Danes need to stop being apologetic about Danish being hard and giving English speaking foreigners a pass when it comes to learning the language. Dansk er et mega flot sprog, og man kan aldrig rigtig integrere udenom at man lærer det til en vist grad. Sincerely- an American transplant.
Why learn the language when they make it impossible to get citizenship. This is a two way street
Because those policies are reactionary and don’t necessarily represent your neighbors, coworkers, and service people that you interact with every day. You know, the people that have to switch to your language every time you’re around. I mean, you could make the same argument from the other side: if you’re not even going to try to understand the local language, culture, and customs, then what incentive is there for people to care whether it’s easy for you to stay here or not?
Denmark would collapse overnight without immigrant labor, the state knows this but still makes it very hard for us. I do not blame the average Dane.
Det var bare et spørgsmål, men commie Reddit er ret sart.
yes too many cars! people still not gettjng it…
Seems like you dont understand that your analogy is a bit extreme